Re: Moving email to other folders

2000-06-07 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi Nigel,

Is there a way to move, or copy and automatically delete messages to another
mailbox?

I asked that myself a few weeks ago, and the "secret" is to use the "save" (just press 
"s") command: it automatically stores
a copy of the message in the new folder and marks the original for deletion.


Cheers,

Manuel






(OT) editor

2000-06-01 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi everyone,

I am trying to follow the advice I was given when I first joined the list, and *not* 
use emacs as my editor, which seems a really good advice because each time mutt needs 
to launch it (on my ageing laptop) it takes quite a while. So I decided to give 
emacsclient a try, and ran

emacs -f server-start

and set export EDITOR=emacsclient. But this started an emacs window on that virtual 
console, so I switched to another one, entered export EDITOR=emacsclient again, and 
ran mutt. Now it works fine, and whenever I edit something inside mutt I get an emacs 
window that works perfectly and shows up in no time; but how can I run the server 
without tying up a virtual console?

Is it possible to automatically start a "server" version of emacs after login so that 
mutt can always run emacsclient?

Thank you for any tip!

Cheers,

Manuel



Re: (OT) editor

2000-06-01 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi Mikko,

Thanks for the tip!

 This is pretty basic unix stuff, but I guess you have to learn it from
 somewhere. :-)  Put a  at the end of the (or any) command line, to put
 that command in "background".  eg.
 
   emacs -f server-start 
(...)
 Sure.  This depends on which shell you're using, but each shell has a
 startup file that is run every time you log in.  For bash, it's .profile
 (or .bashrc, both are used and both work) in your home dir.  For tcsh
 and the like, it's .cshrc.  Putting the above command (with the ) in
 that file will run it every time you log in.


Unfortunately I tried it without success; I put

#!/bin/sh
emacs -f server-start 

into my ~/.profile (I just found out that my shell is called "bash"... :-) and logged 
in again, but I get an error message saying

emacs: standard input is not a tty
[3]+  Exit 1  emacs -f server-start

Does this mean that I can't use the "" trick?

But I seem to have understood something: running emacsclient on a virtual console 
isn't supposed to open a emacs window on the tty, is it? When I give the command

emacs -f server-start

at a virtual console, and in a different one call "edit" inside of mutt, mutt just 
says "Waiting for Emacs..."; the first times this happened I just sat there and 
pressed "Enter", but then I understood that that buffer (the message i wanted to edit, 
in this case) was opened in the tty I had ran emacs -f server-start! When I saved the 
buffer on that tty (with C-x-#) and returned to the mutt console, I had the message 
menu open (I don't know what to call it...:-) it is the screen you get after editing a 
message) and could send the message!

But can't I use emacsclient to open an emacs window on *that* (i.e., where I am 
running mutt) tty? If this is so, that pretty much explains why I can't run the 
emacs-server in the backgroud, right? :-)

Thank you for any info,

Manuel




moving messages?

2000-05-27 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi all,

Is there any straightforward way of moving one message from one mailbox to another? 

Thanks,

Manuel



headers in incoming mail

2000-05-26 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi all,

Two short config questions:

- I have put "ignore (blabla)" into my .muttrc in order to keep the visible part of 
the headers in incoming mail readable, but now I would like to sort the different 
lines, too. Is this possible?

For example, right now most incoming messages show me the date the message was sent on 
at the top; can I put the From: field there instead?

- Is it possible to set up your Fcc: mailbox (in my case Mail/Sent) so that it 
displays the messages recipiend in the index, instead of the sender (always me... :-)?

Thank you for any tips.

Cheers,

Manuel




Re: headers in incoming mail

2000-05-26 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi David,

  - I have put "ignore (blabla)" into my .muttrc in order to keep the visible part 
of the headers in incoming mail readable, but now I would like to sort the different 
lines, too. Is this possible?
 
 Read the manual regarding the hdr_order directive.

Thanks, now they look as I like them. :-)
 
  - Is it possible to set up your Fcc: mailbox (in my case Mail/Sent) so that it 
displays the messages recipiend in the index, instead of the sender (always me... :-)?
 
 folder-hook . set index_format="whatever is normal or default"
 folder-hook =Sent set index_format="change %f or %n or whatever to %F"
 
 I think.  Actually, though I just use %F instead of the default all the
 time.  It tells me who I sent to if I wrote it, and who it came from
 otherwise.

I thought that the setup you described here was what I was looking for, so I defined

folder-hook =Sent set index_format="%F", restarted mutt, but everything looks just the 
same (in my Fcc: mailbox my name is still shown); what am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

Manuel 




Re: headers in incoming mail

2000-05-26 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi Frank,

Thanks, setting alternates to my own address got the Fcc: mailbox to automatically 
show the recipient.

Cheers,

Manuel

  
  - Is it possible to set up your Fcc: mailbox (in my case
  Mail/Sent) so that it displays the messages recipiend in the
  index, instead of the sender (always me... :-)?
 
 Depends on the the settings of 
 set alternates=([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 If mutt know wich address belongs to you, it display the To
 address in teh index.



quick help on mime

2000-05-25 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi all,

I just received an email which, after the authors signatures, contains pages and pages 
of "garbage". The author mentions that he is including three files, but when I press 
"v" for viewing the attachments the list of attachments only contains 1 ("plain/text, 
ASCII", etc).

Before the "garbage" it reads 

begin (filename) 644

How can I save/decode this? I believe they are uuencoded (when I using another MUA the 
attachments I got from this person were all uuencoded).

Thank you for any quick tip. (besides "dig into the manual")

Regards,

Manuel



Re: quick help on mime

2000-05-25 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi David,

Thank you for the tip. Since it was necessary for me to divide it into three different 
files, it took quite a while, but in the end I ran uudecode on them and all worked 
fine.

Thank you again,

Manuel

 
 Yes, that's uuencode data.  Type:
   |uuencodereturn
 This feeds the message into the uuencode program, which will decode the
 file and save it.  If it's not a MIME attachment, you can only decode
 one file (unless you save the whole message to a file and edit out the
 three uuencode blocks).
 
 A uuencode block starts with
   begin filename 644
 and ends with
   end



deleting and undeleting

2000-05-24 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi everyone,

Once again proving myself a total newbie :-), I would like to know whether there is 
anyway in which I can undelete a message which "sits" in the middle of 10 other 
deleted messages, without having to undelete the first four - does this make any kind 
of sense to you?

Thank you for any tips,

Manuel



Re: mbox (Mutt and IMAP)

2000-05-23 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi Suresh,


 On a standalone linux box connected over a dialup this is trivial - not
 when you are telneted into your mailbox which gives you just an 1 mb quota
 ... 
 
 got it? :)


Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me; now I understand what mbox is 
for.:-)

Now I see, as I guess you did, too,  why I didn't have a clue on the usefulness of 
mbox: I run a stand-alone laptop, which I connect to my ISP only a few times a day. 
And I know what quotas are (read a brief description when prompted by the Slackware 
installer whether I wanted to include support for them), but as you may guess I don't 
really use them. 

mbox is there for people who use "real" *nix systems with many users and therefore 
restrictions on the harddrive space they may use, which has nothing to do with my case.

Anyway, I will follow your tip and set move=yes, because this way, when mutt starts, I 
will only see new messages, making navigation easier, and will have all others 
automatically stored in mbox. I think I will find this useful.

Once again, thank you for teaching me this. :-)

Cheers,

Manuel

 
 I only wonder why mutt suggests that I put my read messages into /manel/mbox, and 
the default answer is "no"; all my mailboxes are stored in /home/manel/Mail/, and 
mbox is in /home/manel... that's why I ask whether it is special in any way. 
 
 To save mailbox quota and disk space.  If you have plenty, you can
 dispense with this.
 
 And could I use procmail to do that? I thought that procmail only sorted the 
incoming mail as it arrived, not after I read some messages and left others 
untouched. 
 
 right.  I thought you wanted to sort your incoming mails into folders, so
 suggested procmail.  Even with mails in a folder, you can write a script
 to pipe it to procmail :)
 
 Why does mbox have a special status (stored directly in the home dir, at the end 
mutt suggests you move all your read messages into it,etc)?  
 
 Because the home directory can be hosted on a totally different machine
 from where your mail directory is located.
 
 On a standalone linux box connected over a dialup this is trivial - not
 when you are telneted into your mailbox which gives you just an 1 mb quota
 ... 
 
 got it? :)
 
 -- 
 Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com
 A diplomat is a man who can convince his wife she'd look stout in a fur
 coat.
 



(OT) mailbox for new user?

2000-05-22 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi everyone,

I know this is offtopic, but following the advice of some list members I created a new 
account for myself on my machine so that I don't run as root all the time, but there 
is no /var/spool/mail/manel file for it... so when I ran fetchmail I think all the 
retrieved messages where lost; can anyone tell me how to allow this other user (=me!) 
to use email?

When I start mutt, I get a errno 2 message, saying 

"/var/spool/mail/manel: No such file or directory (errno = 2)".

Any tips?

Thank you in advance.

Bye,

Manuel



absolute newbie...

2000-05-21 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi everyone, 

I am trying to send /receive emails from the console, so I went for (and
installed) mutt 1.2 and postfix.

I believe I configured postfix correctly, but now I haven't got *a clue*
on how to use mutt. And I did try to read the provided manual and the
man page for mutt, but they don't seem to cover the basics... can anyone
point me to some sort of tutorial which will teach me the very basics of
mutt? How can I, for example send an email? Is there any special
configuration necessary before doing so? I pressed "m" and then typed an
address, then a subject line, and then got an "message aborted" error
message... I thought that was due to the fact that I hadn't defined an
editor, so I declared (at the bash prompt)

VISUAL=emacs
EDITOR=emacs

but mutt still aborted after inputing the message's subject line. Any
tips?

Or should I try a simpler email client? Is the latest version of elm any
easier to use?

Thank you for your attention.

Best regards,

Manuel



Re: absolute newbie...

2000-05-21 Thread Manuel Arriaga

Hi  Emily, Mikko and Gero,

Thank you all for your replies. This first problem is over! :-) The
"export VISUAL" and "export EDITOR" command lines did the trick, and I
got to edit the message.

Then I closed emacs (I still haven't found a place I can download jove
from, but I will try it out, Emily,thanks), the file was saved in
/temp/mutt... , and, back in mutt, I tiped "y" for sending it BUT... :-(
I got a

"error sending message, child exited 127 (exec error)"

I guess this means that my postfix install isn't that kosher after all,
right? this doesn't seem to have anything to do with mutt itself; am I
right?

Thank you all, once again. 

And about the slackare-user with problems: it sure is reassuring to know
I am not the only lost would-be-mutt-user! :-)

Cheers,

Manuel



Re: absolute newbie...

2000-05-21 Thread Manuel Arriaga


Hi Emily/all,

I just noticed that the 4 highly enthusiastic emails I sent to this list
didn't make it to your mailboxes, because postfix is sending my email
with the wrong domain name, so the list daemon just blocks my
messages... :-(

Anyway, I would like to know whether it is possible to have mutt display
any new messages that fetchmail retrieved automatically since mutt was
started (e.g., mutt has been running for 15 minutes now, and fetchmail
retrieves any new messages from my ISP every 10 minutes; must I restart
mutt?)... 

And one last question: when inside of mutt, I compose a message and
press "y" for sending it, the minibuffer reads "mail sent", because the
message has been put on the queue; but is it possible to have the mail
dispatched once put in the queue, i.e., before I exit mutt?

Thank you for any tips and sorry if I am leaving any replies unanswered,
but, as I said, my last emails weren't sent correctly. :-(

Bye,

Manuel



Re: absolute newbie...

2000-05-21 Thread Manuel Arriaga


 Resync $
 

But how do I give that command?

-Manuel