Re: Moving email to other folders
Hi Nigel, Is there a way to move, or copy and automatically delete messages to another mailbox? I asked that myself a few weeks ago, and the "secret" is to use the "save" (just press "s") command: it automatically stores a copy of the message in the new folder and marks the original for deletion. Cheers, Manuel
(OT) editor
Hi everyone, I am trying to follow the advice I was given when I first joined the list, and *not* use emacs as my editor, which seems a really good advice because each time mutt needs to launch it (on my ageing laptop) it takes quite a while. So I decided to give emacsclient a try, and ran emacs -f server-start and set export EDITOR=emacsclient. But this started an emacs window on that virtual console, so I switched to another one, entered export EDITOR=emacsclient again, and ran mutt. Now it works fine, and whenever I edit something inside mutt I get an emacs window that works perfectly and shows up in no time; but how can I run the server without tying up a virtual console? Is it possible to automatically start a "server" version of emacs after login so that mutt can always run emacsclient? Thank you for any tip! Cheers, Manuel
Re: (OT) editor
Hi Mikko, Thanks for the tip! This is pretty basic unix stuff, but I guess you have to learn it from somewhere. :-) Put a at the end of the (or any) command line, to put that command in "background". eg. emacs -f server-start (...) Sure. This depends on which shell you're using, but each shell has a startup file that is run every time you log in. For bash, it's .profile (or .bashrc, both are used and both work) in your home dir. For tcsh and the like, it's .cshrc. Putting the above command (with the ) in that file will run it every time you log in. Unfortunately I tried it without success; I put #!/bin/sh emacs -f server-start into my ~/.profile (I just found out that my shell is called "bash"... :-) and logged in again, but I get an error message saying emacs: standard input is not a tty [3]+ Exit 1 emacs -f server-start Does this mean that I can't use the "" trick? But I seem to have understood something: running emacsclient on a virtual console isn't supposed to open a emacs window on the tty, is it? When I give the command emacs -f server-start at a virtual console, and in a different one call "edit" inside of mutt, mutt just says "Waiting for Emacs..."; the first times this happened I just sat there and pressed "Enter", but then I understood that that buffer (the message i wanted to edit, in this case) was opened in the tty I had ran emacs -f server-start! When I saved the buffer on that tty (with C-x-#) and returned to the mutt console, I had the message menu open (I don't know what to call it...:-) it is the screen you get after editing a message) and could send the message! But can't I use emacsclient to open an emacs window on *that* (i.e., where I am running mutt) tty? If this is so, that pretty much explains why I can't run the emacs-server in the backgroud, right? :-) Thank you for any info, Manuel
moving messages?
Hi all, Is there any straightforward way of moving one message from one mailbox to another? Thanks, Manuel
headers in incoming mail
Hi all, Two short config questions: - I have put "ignore (blabla)" into my .muttrc in order to keep the visible part of the headers in incoming mail readable, but now I would like to sort the different lines, too. Is this possible? For example, right now most incoming messages show me the date the message was sent on at the top; can I put the From: field there instead? - Is it possible to set up your Fcc: mailbox (in my case Mail/Sent) so that it displays the messages recipiend in the index, instead of the sender (always me... :-)? Thank you for any tips. Cheers, Manuel
Re: headers in incoming mail
Hi David, - I have put "ignore (blabla)" into my .muttrc in order to keep the visible part of the headers in incoming mail readable, but now I would like to sort the different lines, too. Is this possible? Read the manual regarding the hdr_order directive. Thanks, now they look as I like them. :-) - Is it possible to set up your Fcc: mailbox (in my case Mail/Sent) so that it displays the messages recipiend in the index, instead of the sender (always me... :-)? folder-hook . set index_format="whatever is normal or default" folder-hook =Sent set index_format="change %f or %n or whatever to %F" I think. Actually, though I just use %F instead of the default all the time. It tells me who I sent to if I wrote it, and who it came from otherwise. I thought that the setup you described here was what I was looking for, so I defined folder-hook =Sent set index_format="%F", restarted mutt, but everything looks just the same (in my Fcc: mailbox my name is still shown); what am I doing wrong? Thanks, Manuel
Re: headers in incoming mail
Hi Frank, Thanks, setting alternates to my own address got the Fcc: mailbox to automatically show the recipient. Cheers, Manuel - Is it possible to set up your Fcc: mailbox (in my case Mail/Sent) so that it displays the messages recipiend in the index, instead of the sender (always me... :-)? Depends on the the settings of set alternates=([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]) If mutt know wich address belongs to you, it display the To address in teh index.
quick help on mime
Hi all, I just received an email which, after the authors signatures, contains pages and pages of "garbage". The author mentions that he is including three files, but when I press "v" for viewing the attachments the list of attachments only contains 1 ("plain/text, ASCII", etc). Before the "garbage" it reads begin (filename) 644 How can I save/decode this? I believe they are uuencoded (when I using another MUA the attachments I got from this person were all uuencoded). Thank you for any quick tip. (besides "dig into the manual") Regards, Manuel
Re: quick help on mime
Hi David, Thank you for the tip. Since it was necessary for me to divide it into three different files, it took quite a while, but in the end I ran uudecode on them and all worked fine. Thank you again, Manuel Yes, that's uuencode data. Type: |uuencodereturn This feeds the message into the uuencode program, which will decode the file and save it. If it's not a MIME attachment, you can only decode one file (unless you save the whole message to a file and edit out the three uuencode blocks). A uuencode block starts with begin filename 644 and ends with end
deleting and undeleting
Hi everyone, Once again proving myself a total newbie :-), I would like to know whether there is anyway in which I can undelete a message which "sits" in the middle of 10 other deleted messages, without having to undelete the first four - does this make any kind of sense to you? Thank you for any tips, Manuel
Re: mbox (Mutt and IMAP)
Hi Suresh, On a standalone linux box connected over a dialup this is trivial - not when you are telneted into your mailbox which gives you just an 1 mb quota ... got it? :) Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me; now I understand what mbox is for.:-) Now I see, as I guess you did, too, why I didn't have a clue on the usefulness of mbox: I run a stand-alone laptop, which I connect to my ISP only a few times a day. And I know what quotas are (read a brief description when prompted by the Slackware installer whether I wanted to include support for them), but as you may guess I don't really use them. mbox is there for people who use "real" *nix systems with many users and therefore restrictions on the harddrive space they may use, which has nothing to do with my case. Anyway, I will follow your tip and set move=yes, because this way, when mutt starts, I will only see new messages, making navigation easier, and will have all others automatically stored in mbox. I think I will find this useful. Once again, thank you for teaching me this. :-) Cheers, Manuel I only wonder why mutt suggests that I put my read messages into /manel/mbox, and the default answer is "no"; all my mailboxes are stored in /home/manel/Mail/, and mbox is in /home/manel... that's why I ask whether it is special in any way. To save mailbox quota and disk space. If you have plenty, you can dispense with this. And could I use procmail to do that? I thought that procmail only sorted the incoming mail as it arrived, not after I read some messages and left others untouched. right. I thought you wanted to sort your incoming mails into folders, so suggested procmail. Even with mails in a folder, you can write a script to pipe it to procmail :) Why does mbox have a special status (stored directly in the home dir, at the end mutt suggests you move all your read messages into it,etc)? Because the home directory can be hosted on a totally different machine from where your mail directory is located. On a standalone linux box connected over a dialup this is trivial - not when you are telneted into your mailbox which gives you just an 1 mb quota ... got it? :) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com A diplomat is a man who can convince his wife she'd look stout in a fur coat.
(OT) mailbox for new user?
Hi everyone, I know this is offtopic, but following the advice of some list members I created a new account for myself on my machine so that I don't run as root all the time, but there is no /var/spool/mail/manel file for it... so when I ran fetchmail I think all the retrieved messages where lost; can anyone tell me how to allow this other user (=me!) to use email? When I start mutt, I get a errno 2 message, saying "/var/spool/mail/manel: No such file or directory (errno = 2)". Any tips? Thank you in advance. Bye, Manuel
absolute newbie...
Hi everyone, I am trying to send /receive emails from the console, so I went for (and installed) mutt 1.2 and postfix. I believe I configured postfix correctly, but now I haven't got *a clue* on how to use mutt. And I did try to read the provided manual and the man page for mutt, but they don't seem to cover the basics... can anyone point me to some sort of tutorial which will teach me the very basics of mutt? How can I, for example send an email? Is there any special configuration necessary before doing so? I pressed "m" and then typed an address, then a subject line, and then got an "message aborted" error message... I thought that was due to the fact that I hadn't defined an editor, so I declared (at the bash prompt) VISUAL=emacs EDITOR=emacs but mutt still aborted after inputing the message's subject line. Any tips? Or should I try a simpler email client? Is the latest version of elm any easier to use? Thank you for your attention. Best regards, Manuel
Re: absolute newbie...
Hi Emily, Mikko and Gero, Thank you all for your replies. This first problem is over! :-) The "export VISUAL" and "export EDITOR" command lines did the trick, and I got to edit the message. Then I closed emacs (I still haven't found a place I can download jove from, but I will try it out, Emily,thanks), the file was saved in /temp/mutt... , and, back in mutt, I tiped "y" for sending it BUT... :-( I got a "error sending message, child exited 127 (exec error)" I guess this means that my postfix install isn't that kosher after all, right? this doesn't seem to have anything to do with mutt itself; am I right? Thank you all, once again. And about the slackare-user with problems: it sure is reassuring to know I am not the only lost would-be-mutt-user! :-) Cheers, Manuel
Re: absolute newbie...
Hi Emily/all, I just noticed that the 4 highly enthusiastic emails I sent to this list didn't make it to your mailboxes, because postfix is sending my email with the wrong domain name, so the list daemon just blocks my messages... :-( Anyway, I would like to know whether it is possible to have mutt display any new messages that fetchmail retrieved automatically since mutt was started (e.g., mutt has been running for 15 minutes now, and fetchmail retrieves any new messages from my ISP every 10 minutes; must I restart mutt?)... And one last question: when inside of mutt, I compose a message and press "y" for sending it, the minibuffer reads "mail sent", because the message has been put on the queue; but is it possible to have the mail dispatched once put in the queue, i.e., before I exit mutt? Thank you for any tips and sorry if I am leaving any replies unanswered, but, as I said, my last emails weren't sent correctly. :-( Bye, Manuel
Re: absolute newbie...
Resync $ But how do I give that command? -Manuel