folder-hook in my .muttrc doesn't work

2008-06-02 Thread Rudolf Bahr

Hello everybody,

it's the first time I'm posting a question here though I used to be a mutt
user for a longer time. As OS I'm using debian, 2.6.24-1-686; my Mutt works in 
mbox_type=Maildir mode and in conjunction with fetchmail, procmail and postfix.

Up to now I used a .muttrc-file which I found on the internet and it worked
rather fine. Now I'd like to intend to have some changes and try the 
configuration 
command folder-hook as follows:

folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa   'set use_from=no'
folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa   'unmy_hdr *'
folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa   'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa   'my_hdr   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa   'my_hdr  Fcc: =fanciulla/lisa'
folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa   'my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Hopelessly, it doesn't work. if I answer to an e-mail in this folder, I still 
allways 
have to correct some of the header fields. Though I set and unset a lot of 
other 
parameters of which I thought they could have an impact to folder-hook, mutt 
doesn't 
honor any of the desired parameters. 

The only command with a certain influence to the folder-hook command with
respect to the from: header field I found in the manual is the use_from 
command:

When set, Mutt will generate the `From:' header field when sending
messages. If unset, no `From:' header field will be generated unless the
user explicitly sets one using the ``my_hdr'' command.

Where could be my mistake? Which command prevents mutt from taking over
the desired parameters?

Rudolf

PS.: Here my Mutt's capabilities:

---
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mutt -v
Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-05-17)
Copyright (C) 1996-2008 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.6.24-1-686 (i686)
ncurses: ncurses 5.6.20080503 (compiled with 5.6)
libidn: 1.8 (compiled with 1.8)
hcache backend: GDBM version 1.8.3. 10/15/2002 (built Apr 24 2006 03:25:20)
Einstellungen bei der Compilierung:
-DOMAIN
+DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE
+USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
+USE_POP  +USE_IMAP  +USE_SMTP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL_OPENSSL  +USE_SSL_GNUTLS  
+USE_SASL  +HAVE_GETADDRINFO
+HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET
+HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM
+CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP  +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME  -CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME
-EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  +COMPRESSED  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET 
 +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  +HAVE_LIBIDN  +HAVE_GETSID  +USE_HCACHE
-ISPELL
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
MAILPATH=/var/mail
PKGDATADIR=/usr/share/mutt
SYSCONFDIR=/etc
EXECSHELL=/bin/sh
MIXMASTER=mixmaster
Um die Entwickler zu kontaktieren, schicken Sie bitte
eine Nachricht (in englisch) an [EMAIL PROTECTED].
Um einen Bug zu melden, besuchen Sie bitte http://bugs.mutt.org/.

patch-1.5.13.cd.ifdef.2
patch-1.5.13.cd.purge_message.3.4
patch-1.5.13.nt+ab.xtitles.4
patch-1.5.4.vk.pgp_verbose_mime
patch-1.5.6.dw.maildir-mtime.1
patch-1.5.8.hr.sensible_browser_position.3
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Re: folder-hook in my .muttrc doesn't work

2008-06-02 Thread Rudolf Bahr

* Kyle Wheeler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080602 16:19]:

Hello Kyle,

 On Monday, June  2 at 12:29 PM, quoth Rudolf Bahr:
 folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa   'set use_from=no'
 folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa   'unmy_hdr *'
 folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa   'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 
 Those three should work fine.
 

Sorry, they don't, in this case, at least. The From: address is still a 
combination 
of my username and PC's hostname. 


 folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa   'my_hdr   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa   'my_hdr  Fcc: =fanciulla/lisa'

 Those two won't do anything (well... they will, but not what you 
 expect). First of all, every time you compose a message, mutt asks you 
 who the recipient is. Setting a To: header ahead of time doesn't 
 change that, so whatever To: header you had set before will get 
 overwritten. Secondly, the Fcc: setting isn't a *header*, it's a 
 *setting* (that mutt displays in the compose screen as if it was a 
 header). Here's how you'd do it the right way:
 
  folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'set record==fanciulla/lisa'


Ok, I removed the folder-hooks which can't be preset by me and are 
indeed unnecessary. Instead I added as you suggested:

folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'set record==fanciulla/lisa'

But Mutt gives me still back: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of '=fanciulla/lisa'. 
 
 
 *answer* email (r), as opposed to compose new email (m)? If you're 
 *replying* to email (r), then the recipient (To:) is set based on the 
 message you're replying to.
 
 What exactly are you trying to achieve?

I'm entering the folder 'fanciulla/lisa' in order to answer a message
there by 'r' or ',a'.

 
 Keep in mind, these hooks are only triggered when you enter the 
 folder. If you have other hooks that override them (such as send-hooks 
 or reply-hooks or message-hooks), they will not be re-triggered until 
 you re-enter the folder.
 

Yes, therefore I commented all other lines which have something to do with 
'lisa'
or '=fanciulla/lisa'. It seems to help nothing.

Any additional ideas?

Kyle, many thanks for your answer with the explanations!

Rudolf




Re: folder-hook in my .muttrc doesn't work

2008-06-02 Thread Rudolf Bahr
* Kyle Wheeler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080602 22:19]:

...
 I would have done something like this:
 
  alias -group lisagroup lisa Lisa Lady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  set use_from=no
  send-hook '%C lisagroup' 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  fcc-save-hook '%C lisagroup' +fanciulla/lisa

Hello Kyle,

I think it is a good advice to write an own .muttrc from scratch. 
I will do that around your code suggestion above.

Thank you again!

Rudolf