Re: "Mailbox is unchanged"
On 2009-05-07 13:05:09, Rocco Rutte wrote: > Please read: > >http://dev.mutt.org/hg/mutt/raw-file/tip/UPDATING > > when updating mutt. It lists incompatible changes during the development > cycle. There you'll find a note about the default value for $move having > changed to "no" so mutt no longer will move mails by default (or ask). > > Maybe 'set move' in .muttrc does help? Thank you! That got it. I didn't even know UPDATING existed. I'll remember to check that in future..
Re: "Mailbox is unchanged"
Hi, * m...@coreland.ath.cx wrote: > I've still not got to the bottom of this problem. My spool > now has 200 read emails that I can't get mutt to move. Please read: http://dev.mutt.org/hg/mutt/raw-file/tip/UPDATING when updating mutt. It lists incompatible changes during the development cycle. There you'll find a note about the default value for $move having changed to "no" so mutt no longer will move mails by default (or ask). Maybe 'set move' in .muttrc does help? Rocco
Re: "Mailbox is unchanged"
Hi. I've still not got to the bottom of this problem. My spool now has 200 read emails that I can't get mutt to move. Here is my .muttrc: #--- # headers ignore "from " received content- mime-version status x-status message-id ignore sender references return-path lines #--- # folders set folder="~/mail" set mbox_type="Maildir" set mbox="+`date +%Y`/`date +%m`_inbox" set record="+`date +%Y`/`date +%m`_outbox" set postponed="+postponed" mbox-hook spool "=`date +%Y`/`date +%m`_inbox" set realname="" set reverse_name=yes set reverse_realname=no #--- # globals set abort_nosubject=no set allow_8bit set ascii_chars=yes set charset="`locale charmap`" set confirmappend=no set copy=yes set date_format="%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S" set edit_headers set editor=vim set fcc_clear=yes set hostname=logik.internal.network set index_format="%.3C %S | %(%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S) | %-12.12a | %-12.12t | %-4.4c | %s" set markers set pager=builtin set pager_context=1 set pager_format=" msg %C" set pager_index_lines=12 set pager_stop set smart_wrap set sort=threads set spoolfile=+spool set status_format="-- (%n/%o/%m) %l" set status_on_top set strict_threads set tilde set user_agent=no unset collapse_unread # Any ideas why this might suddenly be happening? As I mentioned before, my mutt config hasn't changed in years so I'm mystified as to why this should happen now.
Re: "Mailbox is unchanged"
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, April 27 at 09:07 PM, quoth m...@coreland.ath.cx: > On 2009-04-27 19:45:13, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2009-04-27, Kyle Wheeler wrote: >>> On Monday, April 27 at 08:17 PM, quoth m...@coreland.ath.cx: >>> A problem seems to have started recently: Mutt seems to think that my mailbox is always unchanged. >>> >>> Why is that a problem? > > OK, well, it's beginning to become a problem because now for > some reason mail is piling up in my spool and refuses to go > anywhere even after being read. > > I'm not sure why this has started happening now as my mutt > config has gone unchanged for over two years. Interesting. I assume you have $mbox and $spoolfile set to the right things? ~Kyle - -- Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe. -- Frederick Douglas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkn2J44ACgkQBkIOoMqOI14mkQCgwfwYtyZDbOemfZQniRFbjEGI 3cYAoNmJPj1oSaDcjYBB+LSK/EhoazVj =11Pc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: "Mailbox is unchanged"
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, April 27 at 07:45 PM, quoth Grant Edwards: >> As has been discussed extensively recently, when you sync (e.g. >> with the $ key), mutt doesn't check for new messages, it just >> pushes its changes to disk. > > I think all of the confusion is due to the fact that people > expect the "sync" command to sync, and they assume that > "mailbox is unchanged" means that the mailbox is unchanged. > > Silly users! Heh, agreed; the fact that mutt doesn't check for new messages during a sync is unexpected and kinda absurd. At least it seems to have certain key people's attention now. :) ~Kyle - -- What progress we are making. In the Middle Ages they would have burned me. Now they are content with burning my books. -- Sigmund Freud -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkn2JykACgkQBkIOoMqOI15BDwCfeMKY4z14VfgKocA63qHqDX35 Sw8An1qbcaZSLCykbP0RyZRfr+ehEwZm =NFDS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: "Mailbox is unchanged"
On 2009-04-27, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Monday, April 27 at 08:17 PM, quoth m...@coreland.ath.cx: > >>A problem seems to have started recently: Mutt seems to think >>that my mailbox is always unchanged. > > Why is that a problem? > >>I have around 100 read emails in my spool (and growing) and >>when pressing '$' to sync, mutt just says "Mailbox is unchanged". > > As has been discussed extensively recently, when you sync (e.g. with > the $ key), mutt doesn't check for new messages, it just pushes its > changes to disk. I think all of the confusion is due to the fact that people expect the "sync" command to sync, and they assume that "mailbox is unchanged" means that the mailbox is unchanged. Silly users! > Thus, if you haven't made any changes since the last time you > sync'd or opened the box, then mutt will say "Mailbox is > unchanged". What that means is "I didn't change anything about > the mailbox". It appears to me that mutt has some significant problems with misleading names of functions and wording of messages. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Did something bad at happen or am I in a visi.comdrive-in movie??
Re: "Mailbox is unchanged"
On 2009-04-27 19:45:13, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2009-04-27, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > > On Monday, April 27 at 08:17 PM, quoth m...@coreland.ath.cx: > > > >>A problem seems to have started recently: Mutt seems to think > >>that my mailbox is always unchanged. > > > > Why is that a problem? OK, well, it's beginning to become a problem because now for some reason mail is piling up in my spool and refuses to go anywhere even after being read. I'm not sure why this has started happening now as my mutt config has gone unchanged for over two years.
Re: "Mailbox is unchanged"
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, April 27 at 08:17 PM, quoth m...@coreland.ath.cx: >A problem seems to have started recently: Mutt seems to think >that my mailbox is always unchanged. Why is that a problem? >I have around 100 read emails in my spool (and growing) and >when pressing '$' to sync, mutt just says "Mailbox is unchanged". As has been discussed extensively recently, when you sync (e.g. with the $ key), mutt doesn't check for new messages, it just pushes its changes to disk. Thus, if you haven't made any changes since the last time you sync'd or opened the box, then mutt will say "Mailbox is unchanged". What that means is "I didn't change anything about the mailbox". ~Kyle - -- When ideas fail, words come in very handy. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkn2BvsACgkQBkIOoMqOI17eYQCfTA8Wz0tIsg5tB4C1AuF7pzFJ 7tIAoPhXC3RrRo8z3FthKtNEv5Vxac41 =/HzC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
"Mailbox is unchanged"
Hi. A problem seems to have started recently: Mutt seems to think that my mailbox is always unchanged. I have around 100 read emails in my spool (and growing) and when pressing '$' to sync, mutt just says "Mailbox is unchanged". I use maildir. Mail is delivered to a local spool (~/mail/spool) and then saved into maildirs organized by month/year (~/mail/2009/04_inbox). $ mutt -v Mutt 1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Copyright (C) 1996-2009 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p1 (i386) ncurses: ncurses 5.6.20080503 (compiled with 5.6) libiconv: 1.11 Compile options: -DOMAIN -DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE -USE_FCNTL +USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_IMAP -USE_SMTP +USE_SSL_OPENSSL -USE_SSL_GNUTLS -USE_SASL -USE_GSS +HAVE_GETADDRINFO +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME -CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS -HAVE_LIBIDN +HAVE_GETSID -USE_HCACHE -ISPELL SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/mail" PKGDATADIR="/usr/local/share/mutt" SYSCONFDIR="/usr/local/etc" EXECSHELL="/bin/sh" -MIXMASTER To contact the developers, please mail to . To report a bug, please visit http://bugs.mutt.org/. muttrc: ignore "from " received content- mime-version status x-status message-id ignore sender references return-path lines set folder="~/mail" set mbox_type="Maildir" set mbox="+`date +%Y`/`date +%m`_inbox" set record="+`date +%Y`/`date +%m`_outbox" set postponed="+postponed" mbox-hook spool "=`date +%Y`/`date +%m`_inbox" set realname="" set reverse_name=yes set reverse_realname=no set abort_nosubject=no set allow_8bit set ascii_chars=yes set charset="`locale charmap`" set confirmappend=no set copy=yes set date_format="%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S" set edit_headers set editor=vim set fcc_clear=yes set index_format="%.3C %S | %(%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S) | %-12.12a | %-12.12t | %-4.4c | %s" set markers set pager=builtin set pager_context=1 set pager_format=" msg %C" set pager_index_lines=12 set pager_stop set smart_wrap set sort=threads set spoolfile=+spool set status_format="-- (%n/%o/%m) %l" set status_on_top set strict_threads set tilde Any help would be appreciated.
