Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work
* Mikko Hänninen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99 14:54]: > > Example: set [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Work mails" would then show up with a 'W' > > and would be selectable with "~W". > What's wrong in using procmail/maildrop to filter > work-related emails to another folder and browse that? Most people do not use a mail filter. For them it is nice to handle both personal *and* work related mails from the mailbox. I want to keep a focus on new mails that are either personal or work related with a limit to "~N (~p | ~W)". I'd like to maintain a mail filter only for filtering out spam. > Having multiple incoming mail > folders is just too handy in Mutt, No, mutt does not give enough support for watching folders to be really handy. > I don't see much point in adding a > specific flag for some purpose like this. I want an extra flag for "group" and "work" related mails because I do not want to add such mails to my "personal" addresses. The "reverse_name" feature acts up on mails sent to a group, eg it's a bad idea to reply as "ME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>". :-( Here's an example of what I'd like to see in the index: Mutt 1.1.1i: /var/mail/guckes (threads) [004/1374] [N=300,*=0,post=31,new=1] 1368 N +! 99 Gerhard Buergmann ( 13) BVI 1.2.0 und deine VI-Clone Seite 1369 N L 99 Sven Guckes ( 50) Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work 1370 N G 99 Mike Orr ( 40) Duplicate messages, unreadable list 1373 N W 91 Felix von Leitner (123) *** (1t's a S3kr1t) 1374 N X 91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (666) spam spam - wonderful spam Explanation: Flag Description Mutt Option + personal message alternates G personal message (but non a list) alternates_group L "List" (mailing list) lists W work related stuff, personal alternates_work X non-personal not found in any of the above In the end I want that the 'X' flag actually shows possible spams; and work related mails are usually not spam. ;-) And then I'd like to be able to have mutt show "/var/mail/guckes" as eg "MAILBOX" - much shorter. Sven
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Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Most people do not use a mail filter. For them it is nice to > handle both personal *and* work related mails from the mailbox. Mutt is not, nor is it intended to be, the "Emacs" of the MUA world. This is the Unix world, where discrete, simple tools work together to create something greater than their sum. If you want your mail separated, for whatever reason, then use a mail filter. It's that simple. > I'd like to maintain a mail filter only for filtering out spam. So you admit that you have a mail filter, but do not want to put it to its fullest use. > No, mutt does not give enough support for watching folders to be > really handy. What? Mutt notifies me whenever any of my incoming folders has new mail. Is that not "watching" enough? Once again, there are external tools available, such as the wonderful xbuffy. > In the end I want that the 'X' flag actually shows possible spams; and > work related mails are usually not spam. ;-) My mail filter detects spam, but instead of deleting it, it inserts the header 'X-Status: D'. Thus, when I enter my mailbox, all the spam is pre-marked for deletion, and I can either choose to examine it, and undelete the occasional non-spam message (and update my mail filter to let it pass), or simply ignore them and let them get deleted when I close the folder. > And then I'd like to be able to have mutt show > "/var/mail/guckes" as eg "MAILBOX" - much shorter. If you put mails for different purposes in different folders, your inbox WILL be shorter. Mine certainly is. -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work
Hi David! On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, David DeSimone wrote: > > In the end I want that the 'X' flag actually shows possible spams; and > > work related mails are usually not spam. ;-) > > My mail filter detects spam, but instead of deleting it, it inserts the > header 'X-Status: D'. Thus, when I enter my mailbox, all the spam is > pre-marked for deletion, and I can either choose to examine it, and > undelete the occasional non-spam message (and update my mail filter to > let it pass), or simply ignore them and let them get deleted when I > close the folder. > Any chance of seeing your filter, sounds good. Sean -- GPG ID (5.x) 92B9D0CF Linux User: #124682 ICQ: 679813 To get my GPG (PGP 5.x) Key send me an empty email with retrieve as the subject My Current Uptime is 0d, 0h and 41m on Linux 2.2.13 It said "Needs Windows 95 or better". So I installed Linux...
Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work
Sean Rima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My mail filter detects spam, but instead of deleting it, it inserts > > the header 'X-Status: D'. > > Any chance of seeing your filter, sounds good. Alas, my current mail filter is a home-brewed perl script, which is easy for me to tweak and modify, since I wrote it, but I fear it might be a bit of trouble for others to make sense of it. It works nicely, though, supporting direct delivery to mbox and maildir folders.. Perl can do anything. Perhaps I could share it with some folks to see how it perhaps could be improved for better release. Naturally, someone can certainly show how procmail could do this same thing. I simply got tired of procmail's "language," and decided to use a language I know better. :) Erf... topic drift... Sorry. -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 07:52:14PM +0100, Sven Guckes wrote: > And then I'd like to be able to have mutt show > "/var/mail/guckes" as eg "MAILBOX" - much shorter. > I don't know about "MAILBOX", but I wouldn't mind seeing it replaced with the "!" shortcut. -- == Nathan Cullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
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++ 11/11/99 22:11 + - Sean Rima: >> My mail filter detects spam, but instead of deleting it, it inserts the >> header 'X-Status: D'. Thus, when I enter my mailbox, all the spam is >> >Any chance of seeing your filter, sounds good. I have same kind of setup. I have procmail check for a some things that may point to spam. Other, similar, checks are also done. The filter checks for spammers that use insecure systems or messages without RFC822 and RFC1123 valid Message-Id or Date fields. It checks to see if the mail was addressed to a spamtrap. It checks to see if the used mail servers are in the ORBS, RSS or RBL. If it finds a thing that does not look correct, it'll add a X-Note field with the problem found. In Mutt i have these X-Note headers light up in bright white (while other header fields are in green), so i can eassily not if something is, possibly, wrong. Some of them are derived from the Spamdunk filters, but have been changed and extended over the course of time. See my procmailrc at http://www.mediaport.org/~sister/personal/procmailrc for more info. -Rejo. -- = Rejo Zenger [Sister Ray Crisiscentrum] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = http://mediaport.org/~sister PGP: see headers
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Hi David! On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, David DeSimone wrote: > Sean Rima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > My mail filter detects spam, but instead of deleting it, it inserts > > > the header 'X-Status: D'. > > > > Any chance of seeing your filter, sounds good. > > Alas, my current mail filter is a home-brewed perl script, which is easy > for me to tweak and modify, since I wrote it, but I fear it might be a > bit of trouble for others to make sense of it. > (Cut to save) That is no problem. I get enough spam these days so maybe I can do something myself. Sean -- GPG ID (5.x) 92B9D0CF Linux User: #124682 ICQ: 679813 To get my GPG (PGP 5.x) Key send me an empty email with retrieve as the subject My Current Uptime is 0d, 0h and 28m on Linux 2.2.13 It said "Needs Windows 95 or better". So I installed Linux...
Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work
Hi Rejo! On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Rejo Zenger wrote: > ++ 11/11/99 22:11 + - Sean Rima: > >> My mail filter detects spam, but instead of deleting it, it inserts the > >> header 'X-Status: D'. Thus, when I enter my mailbox, all the spam is > >> > >Any chance of seeing your filter, sounds good. > > I have same kind of setup. I have procmail check for a some things that > may point to spam. Other, similar, checks are also done. > > The filter checks for spammers that use insecure systems or messages > without RFC822 and RFC1123 valid Message-Id or Date fields. It checks to > see if the mail was addressed to a spamtrap. It checks to see if the > used mail servers are in the ORBS, RSS or RBL. If it finds a thing that > does not look correct, it'll add a X-Note field with the problem found. > > In Mutt i have these X-Note headers light up in bright white (while > other header fields are in green), so i can eassily not if something is, > possibly, wrong. > > Some of them are derived from the Spamdunk filters, but have been > changed and extended over the course of time. See my procmailrc at > http://www.mediaport.org/~sister/personal/procmailrc for more info. > Thanks, will have a butchers. Sean -- GPG ID (5.x) 92B9D0CF Linux User: #124682 ICQ: 679813 To get my GPG (PGP 5.x) Key send me an empty email with retrieve as the subject My Current Uptime is 0d, 0h and 29m on Linux 2.2.13 It said "Needs Windows 95 or better". So I installed Linux...
Re: Alternates, Groups, Lists, and Work
On 1999-11-12 08:16:58 +0100, Rejo Zenger wrote: > Some of them are derived from the Spamdunk filters, but have been > changed and extended over the course of time. See my procmailrc at > http://www.mediaport.org/~sister/personal/procmailrc for more info. Looks quite interesting. Please donate it to dotfiles.com Best regards Martin -- Martin Schröder, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Straße 8, D-28359 Bremen Voice +49 421 20419-44 / Fax +49 421 20419-10 PGP signature
