Garbled charsets

2002-03-05 Thread Johan Almqvist

Hi!  

Until yesterday, I used mutt installed from RedHat's RPM (125) I have
now switched to mutt-1327i-11rhl6 (linked from wwwmuttorg) and
have discovered that my outgoing messages have garbled charsets (and
umlaut letters are displayed as question marks in incoming messages)

I don't even know where to start looking, I've tried the charset
variable in muttrc but couldn't get anywhere Is this something
that needs to be done at compile time?

Regards,

-Johan

[Reposted, never got to me]
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Re: Garbled charsets

2002-03-05 Thread Maarten den Braber

* Johan Almqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020305 16:49]:
 Until yesterday, I used mutt installed from RedHat's RPM (1.2.5). I have
 now switched to mutt-1.3.27i-1.1.rhl6 (linked from www.mutt.org) and
 have discovered that my outgoing messages have garbled charsets (and
 umlaut letters are displayed as question marks in incoming messages).

I use the nl_NL@euro locale, but you can use whichever one you want.
Don't forget to generate them. On Debian that is adding your locale to
/etc/locale.gen e.g.

| # This file lists locales that you wish to have built. You can find a list
| # of valid supported locales at /usr/share/doc/locales/SUPPORTED.gz. Other
| # combinations are possible, but may not be well tested. If you change
| # this file, you need to rerun locale-gen.
| 
| en_US ISO-8859-1
| nl_NL ISO-8859-1
| nl_NL@euro ISO-8859-15

and then running locale-gen. When you did that you can set the charset
in your muttrc to the proper locale in my case:

| set charset=iso-8859-15

I've also set the following to environment variables, from my
.bash_profile:

| export LC_CTYPE=nl_NL@euro
| export LANG=C

When all this shouldn't work, I remember that it sometimes helps (?) to
compile mutt with --without-wc-funcs, but I don't know why this should
work and it maybe a Bad thing to do.

HTH,
mdb
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   -- Herman Finkers



Re: Garbled charsets

2002-03-05 Thread David Collantes

* Johan Almqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-03-02 10:27 AM EST]:

 Until yesterday, I used mutt installed from RedHat's RPM (1.2.5). I have
 now switched to mutt-1.3.27i-1.1.rhl6 (linked from www.mutt.org) and

Please check the whole thread starting with 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. The fix is there.

Cheers,

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College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida
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Re: Garbled charsets

2002-03-05 Thread Sven Guckes

* Johan Almqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-03-02 10:27 AM EST]:
 Until yesterday, I used mutt installed from RedHat's RPM (1.2.5).
 I have now switched to mutt-1.3.27i-1.1.rhl6
 (linked from www.mutt.org) and ...

* David Collantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020305 16:27]:
 Please check the whole thread starting with 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The fix is there.

this is how the thread look like in my mutt's index:

  40640   X 020304 Johan Almqvist( 17) Garbled charsets
  40641   X 020304 David Collantes   ( 79) |-
  40642   X 020304 Dominik Mierzejew ( 28) | `-
  40643   X 020304 David Collantes   ( 95) |   `-
  40644   X 020304 Dominik Mierzejew ( 42) | `-
  40645   X 020304 David Collantes   ( 74) |   `-
  40646  sX 020304 Johan Svensson( 34) `-

I followed the given hints - and now I can see special
characters in the pager - but not in the index.  weird, huh?

Sven



Garbled charsets

2002-03-04 Thread Johan Almqvist

Hi!

Until yesterday, I used mutt installed from RedHat's RPM (125) I have
now switched to mutt-1327i-11rhl6 (linked from wwwmuttorg) and
have discovered that my outgoing messages have garbled charsets (and
umlaut letters are displayed as question marks in incoming messages)

I don't even know where to start looking, I've tried the charset
variable in muttrc but couldn't get anywhere Is this something
that needs to be done at compile time?

Regards,

-Johan
-- 
Johan Almqvist
http://wwwalmqvistnet/johan/qmail/



Re: Garbled charsets

2002-03-04 Thread David Collantes

* Johan Almqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-03-02 01:26 PM EST]:

[... SNIP ...]
 have discovered that my outgoing messages have garbled charsets (and
 umlaut letters are displayed as question marks in incoming messages).
[... SNIP ...]

I am seeing something similar, but getting characters like:

\337
\256
\251
\352
?
\377

When using umlauts. I have the latest iconv installed. Anyone has an
answer? No that I use umlauts, but would like to render nicely if someone
sends me an email with them.

Cheers,

-- 
David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/
College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida
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Re: Garbled charsets

2002-03-04 Thread Dominik Mierzejewski

On Monday, 04 March 2002, David Collantes wrote:
 * Johan Almqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-03-02 01:26 PM EST]:
 
 [... SNIP ...]
  have discovered that my outgoing messages have garbled charsets (and
  umlaut letters are displayed as question marks in incoming messages).
 [... SNIP ...]
 
 I am seeing something similar, but getting characters like:
 
 \337
 \256
 \251
 \352
 ?
 \377
 
 When using umlauts. I have the latest iconv installed. Anyone has an
 answer? No that I use umlauts, but would like to render nicely if someone
 sends me an email with them.

Looks like config issue. Show output of `locale` and the following options
from .muttrc: allow_8bit, charset, locale, send_charset.
 
-- 
The Universe doesn't give you any points for doing things that are easy.
-- Sheridan to Garibaldi in Babylon 5:The Geometry of Shadows
Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski rathann(at)rangers.eu.org



Re: Garbled charsets

2002-03-04 Thread David Collantes

* Dominik Mierzejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-03-02 02:12 PM EST]:

  I am seeing something similar, but getting characters like:
  
  \337
  \256
  \251
  \352
  ?
  \377
  
  When using umlauts. I have the latest iconv installed. Anyone has an

 Looks like config issue. Show output of `locale` and the following options
 from .muttrc: allow_8bit, charset, locale, send_charset.

Locale is:

[david@david]$ locale
LANG=POSIX
LC_CTYPE=POSIX
LC_NUMERIC=POSIX
LC_TIME=POSIX
LC_COLLATE=POSIX
LC_MONETARY=POSIX
LC_MESSAGES=POSIX
LC_ALL=

On .muttrc:

set allow_8bit = yes
set locale = C (tried POSIX too)
set chartset = iso-8859-1
set send_chartset = iso-8859-1

What next?

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College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida
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Re: Garbled charsets

2002-03-04 Thread Dominik Mierzejewski

On Monday, 04 March 2002, David Collantes wrote:
[snip]
 Locale is:
 
 [david@david]$ locale
 LANG=POSIX
 LC_CTYPE=POSIX
 LC_NUMERIC=POSIX
 LC_TIME=POSIX
 LC_COLLATE=POSIX
 LC_MONETARY=POSIX
 LC_MESSAGES=POSIX
 LC_ALL=

I'm no guru, but I don't think POSIX locale knows about umlauts and stuff
Why don't you set it to your national locale? Something that has iso-8859-1
by default I have this set to my national locale (pl_PL), so it defaults
to iso-8859-2 and I have no problem with lstroke, uumlaut or anything
like that

 On muttrc:
 
 set allow_8bit = yes

Good

 set locale = C (tried POSIX too)

I have it unset

 set chartset = iso-8859-1
 set send_chartset = iso-8859-1

Good You might want to try us-ascii:iso-8859-1:utf-8, though
I have mine set to us-ascii:iso-8859-1:iso-8859-2:utf-8

HTH
 
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-- Sheridan to Garibaldi in Babylon 5:The Geometry of Shadows
Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski rathann(at)rangerseuorg



Re: Garbled charsets

2002-03-04 Thread David Collantes

* Dominik Mierzejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-03-02 03:01 PM EST]:

 Good. You might want to try us-ascii:iso-8859-1:utf-8, though.
 I have mine set to us-ascii:iso-8859-1:iso-8859-2:utf-8.

Excellent! My locale is set to en_US and everything is showing the way it 
should. Thanks for the tips and help! As an example:

ß
ë
è
ñ

Cheers,

-- 
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College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida
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Re: Garbled charsets

2002-03-04 Thread Johan Svensson

On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 07:04:57PM +0100, Johan Almqvist wrote:

 have discovered that my outgoing messages have garbled charsets (and
 umlaut letters are displayed as question marks in incoming messages)

I have exactly the same problems here I found that unsetting charset
shows umlauts as question marks (making it somewhat easier to read),
with charset set it shows octal values instead But that's probably a
step in the wrong direction

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