Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
On 1999-10-27 08:51:22 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Since most people on this list presumably use mutt would it be too > much to ask that they use the 'L' command to respond to mail on the > list. Many of the responses to my recent questions and comments > have been sent to both the list and to me. It's no big deal but it > would make for a little less mail to delete. Well, you could also just let your instance of mutt generate Mail-Followup-To headers... ;-) -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 11:32:54AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > On 1999-10-27 08:51:22 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > Since most people on this list presumably use mutt would it be too > > much to ask that they use the 'L' command to respond to mail on the > > list. Many of the responses to my recent questions and comments > > have been sent to both the list and to me. It's no big deal but it > > would make for a little less mail to delete. > > Well, you could also just let your instance of mutt generate > Mail-Followup-To headers... ;-) > I think it should be set to do so, I looked up in the manual and it says the default for 'followup_to' is 'set'. I have this list set up as a list in my .muttrc file, so as I understand it, I should already be setting Mail-Followup-To: shouldn't I? I must admit that if I look at the headers I can't see it though, why isn't it there? -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
On 1999-10-27 12:20:29 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > I think it should be set to do so, I looked up in the manual and it > says the default for 'followup_to' is 'set'. I have this list set up > as a list in my .muttrc file, so as I understand it, I should already > be setting Mail-Followup-To: shouldn't I? > I must admit that if I look at the headers I can't see it though, why > isn't it there? You're using the unstable branch. That means that, in order to get mail-followup-to set, you have to add the list to the list of subscribed lists. See muttrc (5). -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 01:23:49PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: > On 1999-10-27 12:20:29 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > I think it should be set to do so, I looked up in the manual and it > > says the default for 'followup_to' is 'set'. I have this list set up > > as a list in my .muttrc file, so as I understand it, I should already > > be setting Mail-Followup-To: shouldn't I? > > > I must admit that if I look at the headers I can't see it though, why > > isn't it there? > > You're using the unstable branch. That means that, in order to get > mail-followup-to set, you have to add the list to the list of > subscribed lists. See muttrc (5). > Is this something in addition to the 'lists' command in my .muttrc? The mutt list is already in my muttrc 'lists'. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 01:30:27PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > You're using the unstable branch. That means that, in order to get > > mail-followup-to set, you have to add the list to the list of > > subscribed lists. See muttrc (5). > > > Is this something in addition to the 'lists' command in my .muttrc? > The mutt list is already in my muttrc 'lists'. > Oops, yes I've found it, thanks! This message should have the 'Mail-followup-to:', but it *still* hasn't and I do have mutt in the 'subscribe' list in my .muttrc file. So what now? -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 01:40:35PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 01:30:27PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > You're using the unstable branch. That means that, in order to get > > > mail-followup-to set, you have to add the list to the list of > > > subscribed lists. See muttrc (5). > > > > > Is this something in addition to the 'lists' command in my .muttrc? > > The mutt list is already in my muttrc 'lists'. > > > Oops, yes I've found it, thanks! This message should have the > 'Mail-followup-to:', but it *still* hasn't and I do have mutt in the > 'subscribe' list in my .muttrc file. So what now? But it does... unless you mean somewhere else: X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 27 22:42:39 1999 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:40:35 +0100 From: Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Precedence: bulk -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL: http://www.zip.com.au/dev/null 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...'
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 01:40:35PM +0100 or thereabouts, Chris Green wrote: > Oops, yes I've found it, thanks! This message should have the > 'Mail-followup-to:', but it *still* hasn't and I do have mutt in the > 'subscribe' list in my .muttrc file. So what now? Um, it does, you know: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:40:35 +0100 From: Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i :) Telsa (using L, although I suspect that r would have done just fine atm...)
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 27 Oct 1999: > Oops, yes I've found it, thanks! This message should have the > 'Mail-followup-to:', but it *still* hasn't and I do have mutt in the > 'subscribe' list in my .muttrc file. So what now? It did (as was pointed out). I'm only adding the possible reason: maybe Mutt doesn't add that until the email is sent, so you won't see it with "edit message with headers". Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / "Do you have a backup of the data you used to have on this disk?"
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
Chris Green writes: > Since most people on this list presumably use mutt would it be too > much to ask that they use the 'L' command to respond to mail on the > list. Many of the responses to my recent questions and comments have > been sent to both the list and to me. It's no big deal but it would > make for a little less mail to delete. A quick fix on your end, assuming you're also running procmail (a good assumption on this mailing list), Add the following to the front of your .procmailrc file: :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache This discards duplicate mails based upon the message ID header. Alec -- Alec Habig, Boston University Particle Astrophysics Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hep.bu.edu/~habig/
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
This seems like a good time to ask my question. I used to have my mailing lists in my .muttrc file, but when messages would come to my inbox they would show up in the index as being from the list and not from their author. I am on a lot of mailing lists, and there are some people whose posts I like to read all the time, and read the others depending on whether the topic interests me. Is there a way to get the message index to show the author's name instead of the list name? TIA On 27 October 1999 at 13:45, Telsa Gwynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Um, it does, you know: * * Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:40:35 +0100 * From: Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Subject: Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail * Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Mime-Version: 1.0 * Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii * User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i * * :) * * Telsa (using L, although I suspect that r would have done just fine * atm...) -- I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING in science called the "reindeer effect." I don't know what it would be, but I think it'd be good to hear someone say, "Gentlemen, what we have here is a terrifying example of the reindeer effect." -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988.
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 10:46:27PM +1000, CaT wrote: > > Oops, yes I've found it, thanks! This message should have the > > 'Mail-followup-to:', but it *still* hasn't and I do have mutt in the > > 'subscribe' list in my .muttrc file. So what now? > > But it does... unless you mean somewhere else: > > X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 27 22:42:39 1999 > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:40:35 +0100 > From: Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail > Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i > In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Precedence: bulk > Oh, well I suppose that's good, as it works. However it didn't show up when I did an 'E', does that only show my wanted headers as opposed to all of them, I suppose that must be it. Thanks everyone, one more bit learnt about mutt. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
> A quick fix on your end, assuming you're also running procmail (a good > assumption on this mailing list), > > Add the following to the front of your .procmailrc file: > > :0 Wh: msgid.lock > | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache > > This discards duplicate mails based upon the message ID header. While this recipe is on the procmailex man page, a recipe to save duplicates into a different folder is a lot safer (like the one further down in procmailex(5)). Consider the case when mail delivery is interrupted after the duplicate recipe, but before mailbox delivery. On next delivery, the message is silently discarded although it was never delivered.
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 27 Oct 1999: > However it didn't show > up when I did an 'E', does that only show my wanted headers as opposed > to all of them, I suppose that must be it. No, I think you don't see it in "E" is because it's not there yet. It gets added when the email goes out, *after* editing. The same as the Date header too for example, it's not there when you do "E". Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / Warning: Dates in the calendar are closer than they appear.
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
Carrie Jamrogowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 27 Oct 1999:
> Is there a way to get the message index to show the author's name instead
> of the list name?
The default $index_format is "%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15L (%4l) %s"
Change the %-15.15L to %-15.15F (or possibly lower-case f, if you
like, or lower-case n). More information about these in the manual
entry for the $index_format variable.
Mikko,
who thinks this may be another FAQ?
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Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
Lars Hecking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 27 Oct 1999: > While this recipe is on the procmailex man page, a recipe to > save duplicates into a different folder is a lot safer (like > the one further down in procmailex(5)). There's also some specialised scripts/programs (made with perl) that use better checking than just the Message-IDs for detecting duplicates (md5 hash, etc.). I remember seeing links to a couple of these on the Qmail home page, but they probably wouldn't work without modification on non-qmail systems. > Consider the case when mail delivery is interrupted after > the duplicate recipe, but before mailbox delivery. On next delivery, > the message is silently discarded although it was never delivered. Or the case when all mail somehow ends up in the main inbox, unfiltered, and you think "oh I'll just fix the .procmailrc recipes and run procmail on all messages in my inbox to get them all sorted into proper folders", forgetting about the duplicate filter rule. Mikko, who has once lost all of his inbox contents this way -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.
