Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-08 Thread David

On Fri, 06 Jul 2001, adam morley wrote:
> i dont like to move my hand over there, so ive never noticed that.
> have you had any luck getting it to bind them right?  (or have you
> tried at all?)
> 
> what do you use home/end for in mutt?
> 
Basically I don't use home/end in mutt.  However I use them a lot in vim
when working with src code.  So I end up doing most stuff at home on my
linux box and rsyncing them to my uni account.

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Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-06 Thread adam morley

On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 01:49:01PM -0700, Carl B . Constantine wrote:
> * adam morley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > However, now that I have ncurses-5.2 working (Thanks Tom!) mutt and vim
> > > colors work great.
> > 
> > what did you need ncurses 5.2 for?  im actually not using ncurses, and i have no 
>troubles.
> > 
> 
> for proper terminfo and colorization. You might be using slang instead
>   of ncurses, but ncurses works great for me.

that might be why i had to use funky color names...i think im actually using the svr4 
curses, but im not sure.  (maybe ncruses/slang is hiding on here somewhere)

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Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-06 Thread Carl B . Constantine

* adam morley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > However, now that I have ncurses-5.2 working (Thanks Tom!) mutt and vim
> > colors work great.
> 
> what did you need ncurses 5.2 for?  im actually not using ncurses, and i have no 
>troubles.
> 

for proper terminfo and colorization. You might be using slang instead
  of ncurses, but ncurses works great for me.

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Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-06 Thread adam morley

On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 09:28:02AM -0700, Carl B . Constantine wrote:
> * David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Thu, 05 Jul 2001, adam morley wrote:
> > > 
> > > i have no experience with cmdtool, but dtterm does color fine.  what
> > > dont you like about it?
> > > 
> > 
> > I have to use either xterm-color or dtterm at uni as the xterm there is
> > very old and doesn't do colour.  I find that dtterm does colour alright
> > but it doesn't seem to setup the end and home keys properly.
> 
> I also use dtterm on Solaris (at least until I install Gnome for it).
> Not only does it not set up the home and end keys properly, but pgup and
> pgdn scroll the window as opposed to the text stream which is also a
> pain in the butt.

i have to admit, i like the page up/page down like they are in dtterm too.

> 
> However, now that I have ncurses-5.2 working (Thanks Tom!) mutt and vim
> colors work great.

what did you need ncurses 5.2 for?  im actually not using ncurses, and i have no 
troubles.

> 
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Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-06 Thread adam morley

On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 11:34:04AM +1000, David wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2001, adam morley wrote:
> > 
> > i have no experience with cmdtool, but dtterm does color fine.  what
> > dont you like about it?
> > 
> 
> I have to use either xterm-color or dtterm at uni as the xterm there is
> very old and doesn't do colour.  I find that dtterm does colour alright
> but it doesn't seem to setup the end and home keys properly.

i dont like to move my hand over there, so ive never noticed that.  have you had any 
luck getting it to bind them right?  (or have you tried at all?)

what do you use home/end for in mutt?

> 
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Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-05 Thread Ken Weingold

FYI: CDE's Terminal does color.  As soon as my DSL is connected at
home I will be installing stuff such as GNOME, but until then Terminal
works fine.  Of course I need to know how to make the cursor not blink
by default... :)


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Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-05 Thread adam morley

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 02:57:10PM -0400, adam morley wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 10:41:10AM -0400, Rich Lafferty wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:34:20PM +0200, Jesper Holmberg 
>([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > Suresh: thanks, vt100 seems to work the best. I haven't figured out
> > > how to get color out of an xterm under Solaris anyway, so the black
> > > and white means to loss of quality.
> > 
> > Purge your Solaris box of its ancient xterm! I've had luck with rxvt,
> 
> id agree, the xterm with solaris is probably a hold over from way back when.
> 
> > although if you're a real purist, the xterm-color atftp.x.org:/contrib 
> > should work too. (And don't even think about dtterm or cmdtool.)
> 
> i have no experience with cmdtool, but dtterm does color fine.  what dont you like 
>about it?

replying to my own post
well, not exactly fine, but it does color.

> 
> > 
> >   -Rich
> > 
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> thanks
> adam
> 
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Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-05 Thread adam morley

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 10:41:10AM -0400, Rich Lafferty wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:34:20PM +0200, Jesper Holmberg 
>([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Suresh: thanks, vt100 seems to work the best. I haven't figured out
> > how to get color out of an xterm under Solaris anyway, so the black
> > and white means to loss of quality.
> 
> Purge your Solaris box of its ancient xterm! I've had luck with rxvt,

id agree, the xterm with solaris is probably a hold over from way back when.

> although if you're a real purist, the xterm-color atftp.x.org:/contrib 
> should work too. (And don't even think about dtterm or cmdtool.)

i have no experience with cmdtool, but dtterm does color fine.  what dont you like 
about it?

> 
>   -Rich
> 
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Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-05 Thread David Champion

On 2001.07.05, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Thomas E. Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Jesper Holmberg wrote:
> 
> > Suresh: thanks, vt100 seems to work the best. I haven't figured out
> > how to get color out of an xterm under Solaris anyway, so the black
> > and white means to loss of quality.
> 
> you can install a terminfo entry in your home directory using $TERMINFO
> to point to it (see the tic and terminfo manpages).  I'd use infocmp
> on Linux to dump a copy of the terminfo and use tic on Solaris to install
> it.

Sun's xterm simply doesn't support color, as far as I've been able to
tell. Using TERMINFO=/path/to/ncurses-5.0/share/terminfo doesn't help,
in particular.

After trying many alternative terminals (rxvt, aterm, wterm, eterm,
gnome-terminal, dtterm, etc.) and having serious objections to each,
I've happily settled on what I should have tried first: a newer xterm.

http://dickey.his.com/xterm/

Thanks, Thomas. I'm sort of surprised you didn't mention that solution,
yourself. :)

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Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-05 Thread Rich Lafferty

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:34:20PM +0200, Jesper Holmberg 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Suresh: thanks, vt100 seems to work the best. I haven't figured out
> how to get color out of an xterm under Solaris anyway, so the black
> and white means to loss of quality.

Purge your Solaris box of its ancient xterm! I've had luck with rxvt,
although if you're a real purist, the xterm-color atftp.x.org:/contrib 
should work too. (And don't even think about dtterm or cmdtool.)

  -Rich

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Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-05 Thread Jesper Holmberg

Suresh: thanks, vt100 seems to work the best. I haven't figured out
how to get color out of an xterm under Solaris anyway, so the black
and white means to loss of quality.

Jesper

* On  Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 02:53:29PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>  This is a termcap issue.  Switch to a commonly supported terminal type - say
>  vt100 if nothing else works.
> 
>  Of course, under vt100, your brightly colored mutt goes right back to black
>  and white ...
> 
>   --suresh
> 

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Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-05 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

* Jesper Holmberg [mutt-users] <05/07/01 22:39 +0200>:
> I am currently connecting from a Solaris box (running xterm) via ssh
> to my Linux box, to run Mutt. Now, my index look like this:
 8<  
> i.e, not very good. I can read the messages quite alright, but there
> is strangeness there as well, with lines not being rewritten etc.
 
 This is a termcap issue.  Switch to a commonly supported terminal type - say
 vt100 if nothing else works.

 Of course, under vt100, your brightly colored mutt goes right back to black
 and white ...

--suresh




Re: solaris + linux

2001-07-05 Thread Frank Derichsweiler

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 10:39:31PM +0200, Jesper Holmberg wrote:
> 
> I am currently connecting from a Solaris box (running xterm) via ssh
> to my Linux box, to run Mutt. Now, my index look like this:
> 
> i.e, not very good. I can read the messages quite alright, but there
> is strangeness there as well, with lines not being rewritten etc.
> 
What's about the TERM environment var?

By personal experience I can promise that it works fine to connect via
ssh from Solaris@Sparc to Linux@AMD and call mutt.

HTH
Frank