Re: Really strange 'new messages' problem

2007-12-10 Thread Chris G
On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 04:22:09PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
 On Sunday, December  9 at 04:50 PM, quoth Chris G:
 I have just had the shell account where I read my mail moved from a
 FreeBSD system to a Linux one.  I was using mutt 1.5.16 on the FreeBSD
 system, I'm using 1.5.17 on the Linux system.  I have the same home
 directory on both systems so my muttrc file is unchanged (except for
 removing sentmail from the mailboxes line).
 
 I'm getting an odd effect when I log in to read new mail, the busier
 mailing lists' mail appears in two chunks.  I.e. I see new mail in the
 fedora mailing list mailbox, I open it and read, say, 20 messages.  I
 then go to the next mailing list (possibly mutt) read messages there
 and then, immediately afterwards the next new messages are 50 or so in
 the fedora mailbox again.  There's no way they're really new or have
 arrived since the first lot.  This wasn't happening in the FreeBSD
 environment, does anyone have any ideas what might be causing it?
 
 Is it possible that there's some sort of locking issue, where those 
 messages are being held in the mail queue and after mutt cleans the 
 lock your MTA is suddenly delivering them all?
 
That's certainly what the symptoms look like but the mail is being
delivered to the same place, my home directory lives on a file server
somewhere and is mounted by both the FreeBSD system and the Linux
system.  The MTA is, presumably, running on yet another system
somewhere I would guess.

Strangely I didn't get the same symptom just now and there were 80 or
more messages in the fedora mailbox.  Maybe it's just something that
was happening during the changeover.

-- 
Chris Green


Re: Really strange 'new messages' problem

2007-12-10 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 10Dec2007 09:36, Chris G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 04:22:09PM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
|  Is it possible that there's some sort of locking issue, where those 
|  messages are being held in the mail queue and after mutt cleans the 
|  lock your MTA is suddenly delivering them all?
|  
| That's certainly what the symptoms look like but the mail is being
| delivered to the same place, my home directory lives on a file server
| somewhere and is mounted by both the FreeBSD system and the Linux
| system.  The MTA is, presumably, running on yet another system
| somewhere I would guess.
| 
| Strangely I didn't get the same symptom just now and there were 80 or
| more messages in the fedora mailbox.  Maybe it's just something that
| was happening during the changeover.

NFS directory content caching? It can introduce delays in seeing changes
performed from another server. Since this caching is local to the NFS
client, a change of local client from BSD to Linux may change its
behaviour.
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Really strange 'new messages' problem

2007-12-09 Thread Chris G
I have just had the shell account where I read my mail moved from a
FreeBSD system to a Linux one.  I was using mutt 1.5.16 on the FreeBSD
system, I'm using 1.5.17 on the Linux system.  I have the same home
directory on both systems so my muttrc file is unchanged (except for
removing sentmail from the mailboxes line).

I'm getting an odd effect when I log in to read new mail, the busier
mailing lists' mail appears in two chunks.  I.e. I see new mail in the
fedora mailing list mailbox, I open it and read, say, 20 messages.  I
then go to the next mailing list (possibly mutt) read messages there
and then, immediately afterwards the next new messages are 50 or so in
the fedora mailbox again.  There's no way they're really new or have
arrived since the first lot.  This wasn't happening in the FreeBSD
environment, does anyone have any ideas what might be causing it?

-- 
Chris Green


Re: Really strange 'new messages' problem

2007-12-09 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Sunday, December  9 at 04:50 PM, quoth Chris G:
I have just had the shell account where I read my mail moved from a
FreeBSD system to a Linux one.  I was using mutt 1.5.16 on the FreeBSD
system, I'm using 1.5.17 on the Linux system.  I have the same home
directory on both systems so my muttrc file is unchanged (except for
removing sentmail from the mailboxes line).

I'm getting an odd effect when I log in to read new mail, the busier
mailing lists' mail appears in two chunks.  I.e. I see new mail in the
fedora mailing list mailbox, I open it and read, say, 20 messages.  I
then go to the next mailing list (possibly mutt) read messages there
and then, immediately afterwards the next new messages are 50 or so in
the fedora mailbox again.  There's no way they're really new or have
arrived since the first lot.  This wasn't happening in the FreeBSD
environment, does anyone have any ideas what might be causing it?

Is it possible that there's some sort of locking issue, where those 
messages are being held in the mail queue and after mutt cleans the 
lock your MTA is suddenly delivering them all?

~Kyle
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