Re: Using Gmail IMAP with Mutt
I think google is doing this in order to mess with the heads of those using anything other than gmail to read their accounts. For now, the best way around that likely will be to have all gmail forwarded to an account off of google and use that account to reply to any gmail that arrives. When google makes forwarding email from gmail impossible, it will be time to disable gmail accounts and no longer use google for email. On Wed, 8 Sep 2021, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > So is Gmail using GMail again? > > How confusing, and whenever I use one or the other and it seems to make a > new folder of the spelling I use even if it's not what gmail wants. That > means that I now have several "sent mail" folders and I can move some of > them and combine them using the web interface. > > Anyone? > > David > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 13:36 Jens John wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 06:59:23PM +0100, Steve Karmeinsky wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 07:21:30PM +0200 or thereabouts, Jens John wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 2021, at 19:12, David J. J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > > > > > What does gmail really want? Gmail or GMail or something different? > > > > > Thanks in advance for your replies and help. I'm sorry I'm confused > > but > > > > > it is confusing. > > > > Accidentally, I think they changed something because by mbsync config > > broke > > > > some time in August or July. I am now using "[Gmail]/All mail" & > > "[Gmail] > > > > /Sent Mail" (sic: yes, mail lowercased and Mail uppercased for the > > other > > > > folder. Previously, I had been using "[Gmail]/All Mail" (sic) (did no > > longer > > > > work). If in doubt, I would recommend using Thunderbird or another > > IMAP tool > > > > to check which folders a vanilla gmail account presents. Gmail is only > > a > > > > legacy account for me so I'm not exactly keeping up to date with the > > > > service. > > > > Now this is very funny. > > > > Today's IMAP pull with mbsync indicates that Gmail has changed its reported > > folder names'/labels' capitalization. Again. After everything was fine for > > one > > or two weeks. > > > > Error: channel gmail: slave [Gmail]/All Mail cannot be opened. > > Error: channel gmail: master [Gmail]/All mail cannot be opened. > > > > As I don't really need my Gmail anymore I'll just remove Gmail from my sync > > altogether. Personally, I find this inconsistency on Gmail's side highly > > annoying. Their IMAP implementation is garbage. What a waste of time. > > >
Re: Using Gmail IMAP with Mutt
So is Gmail using GMail again? How confusing, and whenever I use one or the other and it seems to make a new folder of the spelling I use even if it's not what gmail wants. That means that I now have several "sent mail" folders and I can move some of them and combine them using the web interface. Anyone? David On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 13:36 Jens John wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 06:59:23PM +0100, Steve Karmeinsky wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 07:21:30PM +0200 or thereabouts, Jens John wrote: > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 2021, at 19:12, David J. J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > > > > What does gmail really want? Gmail or GMail or something different? > > > > Thanks in advance for your replies and help. I'm sorry I'm confused > but > > > > it is confusing. > > > Accidentally, I think they changed something because by mbsync config > broke > > > some time in August or July. I am now using "[Gmail]/All mail" & > "[Gmail] > > > /Sent Mail" (sic: yes, mail lowercased and Mail uppercased for the > other > > > folder. Previously, I had been using "[Gmail]/All Mail" (sic) (did no > longer > > > work). If in doubt, I would recommend using Thunderbird or another > IMAP tool > > > to check which folders a vanilla gmail account presents. Gmail is only > a > > > legacy account for me so I'm not exactly keeping up to date with the > > > service. > > Now this is very funny. > > Today's IMAP pull with mbsync indicates that Gmail has changed its reported > folder names'/labels' capitalization. Again. After everything was fine for > one > or two weeks. > > Error: channel gmail: slave [Gmail]/All Mail cannot be opened. > Error: channel gmail: master [Gmail]/All mail cannot be opened. > > As I don't really need my Gmail anymore I'll just remove Gmail from my sync > altogether. Personally, I find this inconsistency on Gmail's side highly > annoying. Their IMAP implementation is garbage. What a waste of time. >
Re: Using Gmail IMAP with Mutt
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 06:59:23PM +0100, Steve Karmeinsky wrote: > On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 07:21:30PM +0200 or thereabouts, Jens John wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Sep 2021, at 19:12, David J. J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > > > What does gmail really want? Gmail or GMail or something different? > > > Thanks in advance for your replies and help. I'm sorry I'm confused but > > > it is confusing. > > Accidentally, I think they changed something because by mbsync config broke > > some time in August or July. I am now using "[Gmail]/All mail" & "[Gmail] > > /Sent Mail" (sic: yes, mail lowercased and Mail uppercased for the other > > folder. Previously, I had been using "[Gmail]/All Mail" (sic) (did no longer > > work). If in doubt, I would recommend using Thunderbird or another IMAP tool > > to check which folders a vanilla gmail account presents. Gmail is only a > > legacy account for me so I'm not exactly keeping up to date with the > > service. Now this is very funny. Today's IMAP pull with mbsync indicates that Gmail has changed its reported folder names'/labels' capitalization. Again. After everything was fine for one or two weeks. Error: channel gmail: slave [Gmail]/All Mail cannot be opened. Error: channel gmail: master [Gmail]/All mail cannot be opened. As I don't really need my Gmail anymore I'll just remove Gmail from my sync altogether. Personally, I find this inconsistency on Gmail's side highly annoying. Their IMAP implementation is garbage. What a waste of time.
Re: Using Gmail IMAP with Mutt
On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 07:21:30PM +0200 or thereabouts, Jens John wrote: > On Thu, 2 Sep 2021, at 19:12, David J. J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > > What does gmail really want? Gmail or GMail or something different? > > Thanks in advance for your replies and help. I'm sorry I'm confused > > but it is confusing. > Accidentally, I think they changed something because by mbsync config broke > some time in August or July. > I am now using "[Gmail]/All mail" & "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" (sic: yes, mail > lowercased and Mail uppercased for the other folder. Previously, I had been > using "[Gmail]/All Mail" (sic) (did no longer work). > If in doubt, I would recommend using Thunderbird or another IMAP tool to > check which folders a vanilla gmail account presents. Gmail is only a legacy > account for me so I'm not exactly keeping up to date with the service. In .muttrc I have set realname = "Steve Karmeinsky" set from = "st...@gbnet.net" #set use_from = yes set envelope_from = yes set smtp_url = "smtp://st...@gbnet.net@smtp.gmail.com:587/" set imap_user = st...@gbnet.net set imap_list_subscribed=yes set folder = "imaps://imap.gmail.com:993" set spoolfile = "+INBOX" set postponed = "+[Gmail]/Drafts" set trash = "=[Gmail]/Bin" set ssl_force_tls = yes set ssl_starttls = yes set smtp_authenticators = "login" set record="" # Activate caching, as it can greatly improve speed set header_cache = "~/.mutt/cache/headers" set message_cachedir = "~/.mutt/cache/bodies" set certificate_file=~/.mutt/certificates Which works for me Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 3432 3735 / US +1 (650) 423 1390 social id stevekennedyuk Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.net
Re: Using Gmail IMAP with Mutt
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021, at 19:12, David J. J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > What does gmail really want? Gmail or GMail or something different? > > Thanks in advance for your replies and help. I'm sorry I'm confused > but it is confusing. Accidentally, I think they changed something because by mbsync config broke some time in August or July. I am now using "[Gmail]/All mail" & "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" (sic: yes, mail lowercased and Mail uppercased for the other folder. Previously, I had been using "[Gmail]/All Mail" (sic) (did no longer work). If in doubt, I would recommend using Thunderbird or another IMAP tool to check which folders a vanilla gmail account presents. Gmail is only a legacy account for me so I'm not exactly keeping up to date with the service.
Using Gmail IMAP with Mutt
Hello List, I have seen muttrc files with both folder names of gmail, Gmail, and Gmail and even GoogleMail and varients. I think what happens if you use on that Google doesn't know about is that gmail makes that folder for you and does what you are asking for, so if you've said save drafts to a GMail (capital G and capital M) folder, it does that, if you say save drafts to Gmail (capital G small m) folder it does that for you. Now I have several folders and they're not the same. What does gmail really want? Gmail or GMail or something different? Thanks in advance for your replies and help. I'm sorry I'm confused but it is confusing. David Ring signature.asc Description: PGP signature
