alias list and bcc

2007-07-28 Thread Benjamin Eckenfels
Hi,

is there a way to create a simple list with the alias command like

alias my_list contac1 contact2 contactN


but not having send your messages cc: but bcc: ?
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Re: alias list and bcc

2007-07-28 Thread David Champion

> is there a way to create a simple list with the alias command like
> 
> alias my_list contac1 contact2 contactN
> 
> 
> but not having send your messages cc: but bcc: ?

What isn't working about this?  The alias you gave should work, and if
you put it into the Bcc: field it should Bcc those addresses.  You can
do this either in your editor (with edit_headers set), or in the compose
menu.

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Re: alias list and bcc

2007-07-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 03:47:23PM +0200, Benjamin Eckenfels wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is there a way to create a simple list with the alias command like
> alias my_list contac1 contact2 contactN
> but not having send your messages cc: but bcc: ?

Any reason you can't just put the list in the Bcc list?  I'm not
understanding the problem you're trying to solve...



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Fwd: Re: alias list and bcc

2007-07-28 Thread Benjamin Eckenfels
Okay, unfortunately there is some more problem: I only want to see all of the 
recipients
only their own address. Not like when bcc is used and they will see the
address of the primary recipient.

Basically I want to sent a bunch of e-mails to a list of recipients (in
fact a press release). My hope was this could be done easily by an alias-list.

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From: Benjamin Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: alias list and bcc
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 00:03:11 +0200
To: David Champion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Put it into the bcc-list? Let me think about that.
.
..
...
Oh dear. 


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On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 02:18:17PM -0500, David Champion wrote:
> 
> > is there a way to create a simple list with the alias command like
> > 
> > alias my_list contac1 contact2 contactN
> > 
> > 
> > but not having send your messages cc: but bcc: ?
> 
> What isn't working about this?  The alias you gave should work, and if
> you put it into the Bcc: field it should Bcc those addresses.  You can
> do this either in your editor (with edit_headers set), or in the compose
> menu.
> 
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> 



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Re: Fwd: Re: alias list and bcc

2007-07-28 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Sunday, July 29 at 01:29 AM, quoth Benjamin Eckenfels:
> Okay, unfortunately there is some more problem: I only want to see 
> all of the recipients only their own address. Not like when bcc is 
> used and they will see the address of the primary recipient.
>
> Basically I want to sent a bunch of e-mails to a list of recipients 
> (in fact a press release). My hope was this could be done easily by 
> an alias-list.

It's done easier with a shell script. Like so:

for RECIP in addr1 addr2 addr3 ; do
mutt $RECIP < message.txt
done

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Re: Fwd: Re: alias list and bcc

2007-07-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Benjamin Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-01-70 11:34]:
> Okay, unfortunately there is some more problem: I only want to see all
> of the recipients only their own address. Not like when bcc is used
> and they will see the address of the primary recipient.
> 
> Basically I want to sent a bunch of e-mails to a list of recipients
> (in fact a press release). My hope was this could be done easily by an
> alias-list.


do the alias list as suggested and leave the "To:" blank.  Mutt will
send the posts with the "To:" field:

To: undisclosed-recipients: ;

I do this frequently when I do not want to broadcast the email
addresses.

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Re: Fwd: Re: alias list and bcc

2007-07-29 Thread Benjamin Eckenfels

On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 09:40:50PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Benjamin Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-01-70 11:34]:
> > Okay, unfortunately there is some more problem: I only want to see all
> > of the recipients only their own address. Not like when bcc is used
> > and they will see the address of the primary recipient.
> > 
> > Basically I want to sent a bunch of e-mails to a list of recipients
> > (in fact a press release). My hope was this could be done easily by an
> > alias-list.
> 
> 
> do the alias list as suggested and leave the "To:" blank.  Mutt will
> send the posts with the "To:" field:
> 
> To: undisclosed-recipients: ;
> 
> I do this frequently when I do not want to broadcast the email
> addresses.
> 
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> 

Okay, as a workaround this should work for me, too. Thanks. But I don't
want my mails regarded as possible spam for the to-field isn't correct.
Maybe someone shows up with a clean solution.
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Re: Fwd: Re: alias list and bcc

2007-07-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Benjamin Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-29-07 06:05]:
> Okay, as a workaround this should work for me, too. Thanks. But I don't
> want my mails regarded as possible spam for the to-field isn't correct.

Please explain "to-field isn't correct" and site rfc's supporting your
"supposition".

> Maybe someone shows up with a clean solution.

You have been offered several.  Perhaps you should do some
investigation to educate yourself rather than placing the onus on
"someone".  The provided mutt documentation is *very* good.

ps: full quoting, especially sigs, is ungregarious.

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Re: Fwd: Re: alias list and bcc

2007-07-29 Thread Benjamin Eckenfels

On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 07:24:43AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> Please explain "to-field isn't correct" and site rfc's supporting your
> "supposition".
> 
"Correct" was not quite the right word. What I wanted to say is, that
the to-field ideally should present the address of the recipient an not
"undisclosed recipient" even if this is conform to rfc #idunno.

> > Maybe someone shows up with a clean solution.
> 
> You have been offered several.  Perhaps you should do some
> investigation to educate yourself rather than placing the onus on
> "someone".  The provided mutt documentation is *very* good.

I'm sorry. That was not meant to be an insult. I am not a native speaker
of English and was not aware of the subtle meaning of "someone". 

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Re: Fwd: Re: alias list and bcc

2007-07-29 Thread David Champion
> > Okay, as a workaround this should work for me, too. Thanks. But I don't
> > want my mails regarded as possible spam for the to-field isn't correct.
> 
> Please explain "to-field isn't correct" and site rfc's supporting your
> "supposition".

"undisclosed-decipients:;" is a valid content for the To: header,
but that doesn't mean that spam filters will never object to it.
By necessity, spam filters are as bad in their non-accomodation
of irregular but legal constructions as spammers are in their use
of irregular/illegal but accepted constructions.  The concern is
legitimate.


> > Maybe someone shows up with a clean solution.

I tend to use undisclosed-recipients:; myself, but a more normal-looking
approach that I often see is to put your own address in the To: field.
You can also just make one up, if you don't mind the bounce.  example.com
and example.net are even reserved by IANA, and will never (again) be
valid domains for actual users.


> ps: full quoting, especially sigs, is ungregarious.

So is being an ass.  If you want to tell someone you're not going to
help, do it in private, not on a list with thousands of subscribers.

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Re: Fwd: Re: alias list and bcc

2007-07-29 Thread Benjamin Eckenfels

On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:00:11PM -0500, David Champion wrote:
> You can also just make one up, if you don't mind the bounce.  example.com
> and example.net are even reserved by IANA, and will never (again) be
> valid domains for actual users.
> 
Ah, I did not know that (RFC2606 [1]). 

Thanks.


[1] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2606.txt

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