Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-26 Thread Will Yardley

jochen issing wrote:

> So you suggest me to setgid for mutt and/or mutt_dotlock and reset the
> /var/mail directory again?

chmod 1777 /var/mail should work too. whether you do this or make
mutt_dotlock setgid mail is pretty much up to you.

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Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-26 Thread jochen issing

On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 10:54:48AM +0200, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote:
> * jochen issing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-26 09:44 +0200]:
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 06:47:01PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote:
> > > * jochen issing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-25 16:25]:
> > > > > after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove any mails
> > > > > out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen with vim and can
> > > > > write it, but mutt refuses writing.
> 
> Because vim does not create a lockfile.
> 
> > > > Ah, I have solved the Problem!!
> > > > It was the directory access to /var/mail, which was rwxrwxr-x
> > > > and I have been "other". Hence, I actually was not able to write
> > > > into the directory. I find it quite interesting that mutt 1.4i
> > > > has a problem with it and vim and my old mutt (1.3.28?) not.
> 
> Either the old mutt or the old mutt_dotlock binary were setgid mail.
> 
> > no, its owned by root,root. There are no suid bits set as
> > for vim and I changed permission of the directory and everything
> > works fine.
> 
> If there are other users on your machine, your created a security hole
> by this.
> 
> Nicolas
So you suggest me to setgid for mutt and/or mutt_dotlock and reset the
/var/mail directory again?

jochen
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Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-26 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky

* jochen issing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-26 09:44 +0200]:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 06:47:01PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote:
> > * jochen issing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-25 16:25]:
> > > > after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove any mails
> > > > out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen with vim and can
> > > > write it, but mutt refuses writing.

Because vim does not create a lockfile.

> > > Ah, I have solved the Problem!!
> > > It was the directory access to /var/mail, which was rwxrwxr-x
> > > and I have been "other". Hence, I actually was not able to write
> > > into the directory. I find it quite interesting that mutt 1.4i
> > > has a problem with it and vim and my old mutt (1.3.28?) not.

Either the old mutt or the old mutt_dotlock binary were setgid mail.

> no, its owned by root,root. There are no suid bits set as
> for vim and I changed permission of the directory and everything
> works fine.

If there are other users on your machine, your created a security hole
by this.

Nicolas



Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-26 Thread jochen issing

On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 06:47:01PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote:
> * jochen issing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-25 16:25]:
> > > after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove any mails
> > > out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen with vim and can
> > > write it, but mutt refuses writing.
> > Ah, I have solved the Problem!!
> > It was the directory access to /var/mail, which was rwxrwxr-x
> > and I have been "other". Hence, I actually was not able to write
> > into the directory. I find it quite interesting that mutt 1.4i
> > has a problem with it and vim and my old mutt (1.3.28?) not.
> 
> check the permissions on the binary of mutt 1.3.28 then.
> is it owned by root:other?

no, its owned by root,root. There are no suid bits set as
for vim and I changed permission of the directory and everything
works fine.

> as for vim - if it allows writing to the mail spool
> then you can have lots of fun with it...

If you think about using vim as a mail client, I don't
think about fun ;-)

jochen
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Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-25 Thread Sven Guckes

* jochen issing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-25 16:25]:
> > after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove any mails
> > out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen with vim and can
> > write it, but mutt refuses writing.
> Ah, I have solved the Problem!!
> It was the directory access to /var/mail, which was rwxrwxr-x
> and I have been "other". Hence, I actually was not able to write
> into the directory. I find it quite interesting that mutt 1.4i
> has a problem with it and vim and my old mutt (1.3.28?) not.

check the permissions on the binary of mutt 1.3.28 then.
is it owned by root:other?

as for vim - if it allows writing to the mail spool
then you can have lots of fun with it...

Sven



Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-25 Thread jochen issing

On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 02:33:24PM +0200, jochen issing wrote:
> Hi List,
> 
> after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove any mails
> out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen with vim and can
> write it, but mutt refuses writing.
> I found in the internet the configure switch --enable-extern-dotlock
> and compiled it once more, but this did not help.
> I am using debian woody stable.
Ah, I have solved the Problem!!
It was the directory access to /var/mail, which was rwxrwxr-x and I have
been "other". Hence, I actually was not able to write into the
directory. I find it quite interesting that mutt 1.4i has a problem with
it and vim and my old mutt (1.3.28?) not.

Thanks so far to Sven and David!!

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Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-25 Thread jochen issing

On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 04:34:57PM +0200, jochen issing wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 03:37:12PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote:
> > * jochen issing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-25 12:39]:
> > > after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove
> > > any mails out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen
> > > with vim and can write it, but mutt refuses writing.
> > 
> > sounds like a locking problem..
> > 
> > > I found in the internet the configure switch --enable-extern-dotlock
> > > and compiled it once more, but this did not help.
> > > I am using debian woody stable.
> > 
> > but do you mind sharing more info than
> > "mutt 1.4 on debian woody stable"?
> > perhaps something like "mutt -v"?
> > 
> > Sven
> 
> Here you are:
> 
> System: Linux 2.4.19 (i686) [using ncurses 5.2]
> Einstellungen bei der Compilierung:
> -DOMAIN
> -DEBUG
> -HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE
> +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
> -USE_POP  -USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  -USE_SASL
> +HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX
> +HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET
> +HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM
> +HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT
> +ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET
> +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR
> +HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  +HAVE_GETSID  -HAVE_GETADDRINFO
> ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell"
> SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
> MAILPATH="/var/mail"
> PKGDATADIR="/usr/share/mutt"
> SYSCONFDIR="/usr/etc"
> EXECSHELL="/bin/sh"
> -MIXMASTER

And still more:
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   412136 25. Sep 12:07 /usr/bin/mutt*
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 7116 25. Sep 12:07
/usr/bin/mutt_dotlock*
drwxrwsr-x2 root mail 4096 25. Sep 17:05 /var/mail/
-rw-rw1 jochen   mail79673 25. Sep 17:05
/var/mail/jochen


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Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-25 Thread jochen issing

On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 03:37:12PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote:
> * jochen issing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-25 12:39]:
> > after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove
> > any mails out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen
> > with vim and can write it, but mutt refuses writing.
> 
> sounds like a locking problem..
> 
> > I found in the internet the configure switch --enable-extern-dotlock
> > and compiled it once more, but this did not help.
> > I am using debian woody stable.
> 
> but do you mind sharing more info than
> "mutt 1.4 on debian woody stable"?
> perhaps something like "mutt -v"?
> 
> Sven

Here you are:

System: Linux 2.4.19 (i686) [using ncurses 5.2]
Einstellungen bei der Compilierung:
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE
+USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
-USE_POP  -USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  -USE_SASL
+HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET
+HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM
+HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET
+HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  +HAVE_GETSID  -HAVE_GETADDRINFO
ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell"
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/mail"
PKGDATADIR="/usr/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/usr/etc"
EXECSHELL="/bin/sh"
-MIXMASTER


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Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-25 Thread Sven Guckes

* jochen issing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-25 12:39]:
> after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove
> any mails out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen
> with vim and can write it, but mutt refuses writing.

sounds like a locking problem..

> I found in the internet the configure switch --enable-extern-dotlock
> and compiled it once more, but this did not help.
> I am using debian woody stable.

but do you mind sharing more info than
"mutt 1.4 on debian woody stable"?
perhaps something like "mutt -v"?

Sven



Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-25 Thread David T-G

Jochen --

...and then jochen issing said...
% 
% after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove any mails

What, it's still that way an hour later?

See my reply to your first post :-)


HTH & HAND

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Re: mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-25 Thread David T-G

Jochen --

...and then jochen issing said...
% 
% Hi List,

Hello!


% 
% after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove any mails

How did you install mutt?  Were you root, or just jochen?


% out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen with vim and can
% write it, but mutt refuses writing.
% I found in the internet the configure switch --enable-extern-dotlock
% and compiled it once more, but this did not help.
% I am using debian woody stable.

Please show us what

  ls -lFd /var/mail /var/mailjochen `which mutt` `which mutt_dotlock`
  mutt -v

gives you.  I suspect that /var/mail is writable only by owner (root)
and group (mail) and that either mutt (if it is -DL_STANDALONE) or
mutt_dotlock (if mutt is +DL_STANDALONE) is not installed with the SGID
bit set and mail groupship.


% 
% Thanks,

Sure thing!


% 
% jochen


HTH & HAND

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mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-25 Thread jochen issing

Hi List,

after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove any mails
out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen with vim and can
write it, but mutt refuses writing.
I found in the internet the configure switch --enable-extern-dotlock
and compiled it once more, but this did not help.
I am using debian woody stable.

Thanks,

jochen

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mbox opened read only after update to mutt 1.4i

2002-09-25 Thread jochen issing

Hi List,

after my recent update to 1.4i, I am not able able to remove any mails
out of my spool files. I can open /var/mail/jochen with vim and can
write it, but mutt refuses writing.
I found in the internet the configure switch --enable-extern-dotlock
and compiled it once more, but this did not help.
I am using debian woody stable.

Thanks,

jochen

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