Batch sending postponed messages

2001-05-31 Thread Rod Pike

Is there a way of sending all postponed messages as a batch without
having to do them one at a time?
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Re: Batch sending postponed messages

2001-05-31 Thread Thomas Roessler

No.

Actually, what you are describing heavily sounds like you should 
rather use your MTA's queue for the job.

On 2001-05-31 22:27:37 +0200, Rod Pike wrote:
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:27:37 +0200
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To: Mutt-users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Batch sending postponed messages
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Is there a way of sending all postponed messages as a batch without
having to do them one at a time?
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Re: Batch sending postponed messages

2001-05-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Rod Pike [mutt-users] Thu, May 31, 2001 at 10:27:37PM +0200: 
 Is there a way of sending all postponed messages as a batch without
 having to do them one at a time?

As you're running sendmail see http://www.hserus.net/sendmail.html

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Re: sending postponed messages

2001-02-21 Thread Joe Philipps

On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 12:54:21PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 08:11:22AM +0100, Pacholleck wrote:
 I cannot afford long online times waiting that some sendmail
 deceides to try delivery again or recalling every of all those
 postponed in vi again.

If you're offline when you send messages (not postpone them),
sendmail should queue the messages. When you're online again, "sendmail -q"
should flush the queue, i.e., send all the messages in the queue.

Have a look at:
http://lists.suse.com/archives/suse-linux-e/2000-Jun/2112.html
http://cork.linux.ie/projects/install-sendmail/

I'd like to add another Sendmail tip:

So that Sendmail doesn't take long to return to Mutt when it runs
while sending a message, you might also consider using its -odd
option.

"-o" some configuration [o]ption
"d"  the [d]elivery mode option
"d"  delivery mode "[d]eferred", which is like queued, but also skips
initial DNS lookups.

This is what I do.  In fact, my sendmail Mutt variable is set to a
shell script which looks through the numeric ("-n") output of
netstat(1) for the default ("0.0.0.0") route.  Since I generally use
the "defaultroute" option to pppd(8), when I'm online, a default route
will be present, but will be absent while offline:

#!/bin/bash

sendm='/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi'
if netstat -nr | grep '^0\.0\.0\.0' /dev/null 21
then # there is a default route; we're on the Internet
: # so do nothing extra
else # we aren't, so use the Sendmail defer option
sendm="$sendm -odd"
fi
exec $sendm "$@"

I hope you Mutt w/ Sendmail users like this :-)

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Re: sending postponed messages

2001-02-21 Thread Erika Pacholleck

( Die, 20 Feb 2001 ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- :
 If you're offline when you send messages (not postpone them),
 sendmail should queue the messages. When you're online again, "sendmail -q"
 should flush the queue, i.e., send all the messages in the queue.

( Mit, 21 Feb 2001 ) BWise -- :
 Erika, don't throw Mutt out!
 
 I'm on a dial-up connection (as you are) and have a script run by
 a cron-daemon which connects me to my isp, checks my various mail
 accounts, and sends queued mail (using "sudo qsend" so that I do
 not have to be logged in as root) at regular intervals. And at
 this moment I have in the neighborhood of a half-dozen postponed
 messages in Mutt.

Ok, in kmail I made myself a folder out.wait for drafts besides out.
But you are right sendmail -q does the trick - for god sake this is
not one of those postfix's sendmail commands whith (ignored:), so I
only have to discipline myself that sent is nearly out and not longer
a draft ...
But better than this mousing around - and no I do not intend to
throw Mutt out but kmail as soon as I got my headers correct. 

And of course I will end up with scripting the whole thing, that's
at least what I exactely know how to do it ;)

Thanks to all for that hint.
Erika



Re: sending postponed messages

2001-02-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Erika Pacholleck proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 But better than this mousing around - and no I do not intend to
 throw Mutt out but kmail as soon as I got my headers correct. 
 
 Try my howto at http://www.hserus.net/dlhowto.html (email on a
 dialup).  That's a howto on how to configure sendmail + mutt on a
 dialup.  There's also a copy of my .muttrc in case you are
 interested.
 
-s

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sending postponed messages

2001-02-20 Thread Pacholleck

I have already been through dejanews for search and as far as I
understood form the thread it is really not possible to send the
postponed messages in one bunch once I am connected to the net?

Can't really believe that there is not yet a solution out there
from one of all those mutt users, but unfortunately those I asked
told me well, I am always online, that doesn't touch me.

I cannot afford long online times waiting that some sendmail
deceides to try delivery again or recalling every of all those
postponed in vi again.

Just began to love mutt and if someone helps with this one now
I could just throw away all the other stuff.

Thank you.
Erika



Re: sending postponed messages

2001-02-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Erika,

Wouldn't that be a function of sendmail's mail queue?  I know sendmail can be 
configured to send mail when connected.  The mail queue is pretty powerful, so your 
solution might lie there.

* Pacholleck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I have already been through dejanews for search and as far as I
 understood form the thread it is really not possible to send the
 postponed messages in one bunch once I am connected to the net?
 
 Can't really believe that there is not yet a solution out there
 from one of all those mutt users, but unfortunately those I asked
 told me well, I am always online, that doesn't touch me.
 
 I cannot afford long online times waiting that some sendmail
 deceides to try delivery again or recalling every of all those
 postponed in vi again.
 
 Just began to love mutt and if someone helps with this one now
 I could just throw away all the other stuff.
 
 Thank you.
 Erika



Re: sending postponed messages

2001-02-20 Thread rex

On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 08:11:22AM +0100, Pacholleck wrote:
 I have already been through dejanews for search and as far as I
 understood form the thread it is really not possible to send the
 postponed messages in one bunch once I am connected to the net?
 
 I cannot afford long online times waiting that some sendmail
 deceides to try delivery again or recalling every of all those
 postponed in vi again.

If you're offline when you send messages (not postpone them),
sendmail should queue the messages. When you're online again, "sendmail -q"
should flush the queue, i.e., send all the messages in the queue.

Have a look at:
http://lists.suse.com/archives/suse-linux-e/2000-Jun/2112.html
http://cork.linux.ie/projects/install-sendmail/

HTH,

-rex

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Re: sending postponed messages

2001-02-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] proclaimed on mutt-users that: 

 On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 08:11:22AM +0100, Pacholleck wrote:

  I have already been through dejanews for search and as far as I
  understood form the thread it is really not possible to send the
  postponed messages in one bunch once I am connected to the net?
 
 It is, very much so
 
 Have a look at:
 http://lists.suse.com/archives/suse-linux-e/2000-Jun/2112.html
 http://cork.linux.ie/projects/install-sendmail/
 
 Or my howto at http://www.hserus.net/dlhowto.html (which has a copy of my
 muttrc as well -- mentioned for the sake of staying on topic for the
 mutt-users list g)
 
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Re: sending postponed messages

2001-02-20 Thread BWise

Erika, don't throw Mutt out! As others have mentioned, the
solution is in the mail queue, not in the postpone function of
Mutt. The postpone feature of Mutt applies only to the drafting
of messages, not to sending them. IOW, the postpone feature
allows you to save the message you are composing so you can
finish it later without queuing it for send.

I'm on a dial-up connection (as you are) and have a script run by
a cron-daemon which connects me to my isp, checks my various mail
accounts, and sends queued mail (using "sudo qsend" so that I do
not have to be logged in as root) at regular intervals. And at
this moment I have in the neighborhood of a half-dozen postponed
messages in Mutt.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 08:11:22AM +0100, Pacholleck wrote:
 I have already been through dejanews for search and as far as I
 understood form the thread it is really not possible to send the
 postponed messages in one bunch once I am connected to the net?

 Thank you.
 Erika

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HTH,
BWise



Re: sending postponed messages

2001-02-20 Thread Conor Daly

On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 12:54:21PM -0800 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] thought:
 On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 08:11:22AM +0100, Pacholleck wrote:
  I have already been through dejanews for search and as far as I
  understood form the thread it is really not possible to send the
  postponed messages in one bunch once I am connected to the net?
  
  I cannot afford long online times waiting that some sendmail
  deceides to try delivery again or recalling every of all those
  postponed in vi again.
 
 If you're offline when you send messages (not postpone them),
 sendmail should queue the messages. When you're online again, "sendmail -q"
 should flush the queue, i.e., send all the messages in the queue.
 
 Have a look at:
 http://lists.suse.com/archives/suse-linux-e/2000-Jun/2112.html
 http://cork.linux.ie/projects/install-sendmail/
 
I used install-sendmail to get set up initially and then use a script that
gets fired up when I go online to do a 'sendmail -q' to send queued mail.
There's a few other things that happen with that script like: firing up my
firewall, fetching mail from numerous pop servers and fetching news for my
local news server.  That's available if you want but you need to check out 
how to start a script once you go online (I use diald which has an option 
for a "just connected" script).

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Re: Re: sending postponed messages

1999-04-29 Thread Renaud Colinet

on Apr 28, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 12:36:55PM +0200, Renaud Colinet wrote:
  Hi
  
  when i recall a postponed message, the only thing I can do (afaik) is press
  return, which brings me in insert mode. To send the message I have to exit
  the editor and send. Is it possible to skip this phase and send the message
  without editing ? (the 'y' key has no effect in this mode)
 
 You probably could archive something like that with
 
 macro postpone y ":set editor=touch\nreturn:set editor='vim'\ny"

Hmm, mutt complains at startup: no such menu
I tried 'postponed' instead of 'postpone' (the former seems more likely from
what I read in the manual), but I get the same message.
I wonder if it recognizes this menu (maybe a problem of version, I use version
0.91.1)

Any hint appreciated 
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Re: Re: sending postponed messages

1999-04-29 Thread Stefan `Sec` Zehl

On Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 06:09:00PM +0200, Renaud Colinet wrote:
 Hmm, mutt complains at startup: no such menu
 I tried 'postponed' instead of 'postpone' (the former seems more likely from
 what I read in the manual), but I get the same message.
 I wonder if it recognizes this menu (maybe a problem of version, I use version
 0.91.1)

I use 95.4i and it works here. So I think you migt try upgrading your
mutt.

CU,
Sec
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sending postponed messages

1999-04-28 Thread Renaud Colinet

Hi

when i recall a postponed message, the only thing I can do (afaik) is press
return, which brings me in insert mode. To send the message I have to exit
the editor and send. Is it possible to skip this phase and send the message
without editing ? (the 'y' key has no effect in this mode)

TIA

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