[MLO] Re: Multiple problems with MLO PPC 3.0
Thanks for replying. The beta seems to have some problem. I am unable to install it. Basically I tried installing many times, but even when it installs fine, am unable to run MLO - system finally shows error message that - 'file MLO could not be opened and that one of its component could be missing'. The message was saying to reinstall again. Here is the long story. Yesterday I tried installing this beta. I tried many times, but am unable to install this: 1. First time installation process was 35-40% complete, and then it hanged. I waited for 10 mins, and finally did a soft reset 2. After soft reset it itself prompted for install, and progress bar indicated installation progress upto 100%, but did not complete. Again it hanged, I waited for 15 mins, and finally did a soft reset. 3. Assuming that it may have partially installed, I tried using the system - but the moment MLO icon or MLO file was about to show the system hanged. I soft resetted again. 4. Fourth time I uninstalled MLO and installed - this time it installed fine. With all the messages that whether I want to remove activation keys registry entires, etc. Finally there was message that installation completed successfully. Now when I tried to use the system, however the results were still same - the moment MLO icon or MLO file was about show the system hanged. I soft resetted again. 5. Fifth time I repeated as in point 4 above, that is uninstall and install, and installation went just fine. However still when I tried to access MLO from Programs, system seemed to have hanged. BUT this time did not reset and instead leaved the device for half hour - --- finally there was message, something like - 'file MLO could not be opened and that one of its component could be missing'. The message was saying to reinstall again. Eagerly waiting for your response. On Jun 16, 10:04 am, Oleg wrote: > Could you please try if the issue has gone in this > version:http://www.mylifeorganized.net/downloads/files/BetaTesting/4KSM/mlo-p... > > Thanks, > Oleg > > On 15 июн, 07:51, "vikram.sjn" wrote: > > > > > Also noticed that MLO PPC data file has grown to be double of that on > > desktop > > > On Jun 13, 9:08 am, "vikram.sjn" wrote: > > > > Last week I upgraded to MLO 3.0 - Desktop & PPC. > > > Since then I have faced multiple problems on PPC version: > > > 1. Its slow > > > 2. It hangs > > > 3. Sync hangs > > > > I have posted about the points 1 & 2 elsewhere on this forum, but will > > > describe again. > > > > I was using MLO 2.5 - both desktop & PPC. There were no problems. > > > > Upgrading to MLO 3.0, the first problem I noticed was that switching > > > to TODO view or back to Outline view was slow. > > > Then I noticed that adding new items too at times is slow. > > > > Then one day after entering note text the MLO PPC hanged. Restarting > > > MLO PPC (after mobile soft reset), again hanged. > > > The I tried again, this time waiting endlessly... and it could open > > > the mlo file on PPC finally. > > > > Now today I was syncing MLO PPC to Desktop - the MloWmSync.exe started > > > syncing ... but kept sycing endlessly (in endless loop while syncing), > > > for 25 minutes. > > > > Finally I had to disconnect the device to stop MloWmSync, and then > > > exited this application. > > > > I believe the MLO PPC 3.0 is unstable and has multiple problem. > > > Andrey kindly provide some solution or fix for this.- Скрыть цитируемый > > > текст - > > > - Показать цитируемый текст - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[MLO] Re: Repriorizing
Hi, First -- changing order in To-Do was discussed in this group and there is no (good) technical solution at the moment. As To-Do list is generated and updated on the fly, it is not stored somewhere but it is and dynamical structure in the memory. There are many questions for manual sorting: for example where to place new task when you sorted your tasks manually, how to keep information about custom sorting while parameters of tasks change (some due dates begin closer with time, etc)? Second -- how to deal with sorting. I do that in next way: - i use grouping: there are three groups in To-Do basing on top most parents - there is color coding for tasks i'm waiting for.. if i have task with high position in the list but it does not require an action (i'm waiting and external data or somebody) i mark it with one flag and automatic formating change color of task to gray and adds dotted underline (for me it means not actually task but ongoing process). so i have still record in right place but it does not take my attention; Third -- i think you have to feel task-oriented planning which is opposite to event-oriented plans. While last is defining sequence of actions or events (what you want to do in To-Do list) and strictly follow it, first (task-oriented) is getting of list of tasks which you _should_ do, and that is just a prompt. you read the list and decide what to do, position of tasks in the list is just an advice, as software is not able to take all details of our life into account. And the last -- MLO defines positions of tasks basing on information you entered, and it does it quite good. And i notice that when i try to move task in the list i try to deceive the software and myself (postponing some tasks)... : ) hm. a lot of letters. hope my post will help you /// Sergey --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[MLO] Re: Repriorizing
This has been my major complaint about MLO for the last two years (and other people have periodically made the same complaint) but for some reason (which I still don't understand) it does not appear to feature in Andrey's list of priorities and he is almost completely silent on the subject. :-( > -Original Message- > From: myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com > [mailto:mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alexis > Sent: 18 June 2009 6:40 p > To: MyLifeOrganized > Subject: [MLO] Repriorizing > > > > Although i generally like MLO i still don´t know how to > change the order of the tasks fast. Normally my Do-List ist > sorted by computed score. So to reposition a task i have to > adjust importance, urgency and maybe even duedate. And even > then i find it hard to place it exactly under the task i want! > > How much easier it would be to use drag & drop but that is > not allowed even if i choose (none) in the Sorting window. WHY ?!? > > I wonder how you guys adjust the taskorder if priorities of > your tasks/ life are changing. I don´t care so much about > tasks parameters and values but the order and the flexibility > to adapt it is very important for me. Thank you. > > Alexandra > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[MLO] Re: Repriorizing
Thank you guys! @Sergey: Yes, there are ways to workaround. But in my company priorities change, new tasks appear and make the actual order irrelevant. I don´t want to flag tasks oder mark them as not so relevant. I don´t want to see them as long i deal with more important ones. I want to push them further down to focus on the tasks above. I guess Richard amd many others think the same way. Actually it´s not a big thing to achieve. If you try to drag & drop in the Do-List it looks like it would almost work. Until the disapointing message appears (-;) Let´s elaborate how and when manual sorting would make sense. Assume the Do-List is sorted by computed score. The dragging of a task within tasks with identical property-values (Imp. Urg. Due) should be no problem. If you would drag the task to a position it never would have been sorted to then the taskproperties should adapt to the destination position. The property-values (Imp. Urg. Due) would then be changed to justify the new position. Another option would be the possibility to copy and paste property- values (Imp. Urg. Due) from one task to another. The result would be similar. Maybe this would be easier for Andrey to realise. I hope he can manage to drop a line or two, as i think many would benefit from that option. Alexandra --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Automatic Formatting Condition...
Hello Andrej, do you have a timeline for the iphone app? I believe you could make a fortune with this! MLO on the IPhone = Killerapp! Do you believe that a release is within reach of the next 3 months? On Jun 2, 1:25 pm, Andrey wrote: > > Wow! Just discovering everything I can do with the automatic > > formatting featuresamazing work! > > Thanks jamezzz! For some reasons I was absolutely sure you would love > it :) > > > One think I'd like to do is to set up an automatic formatting rule > > that effects the colors and sidebar color for tasks under a given Top > > Level Parent or Top Level Project. > > I like the idea! For now we only have ProjectName > I will also add the following fields: > TopLevelProjectName > TopLevelParentName > > Please note however that such fields might be time consuming to > calculate for each task. I do use special optimization and caching in > MLO filtering but still if you have very complex conditions in > AutoFormat rules you might experience drop of the performance and > blinking during outline painting and scrolling. > > > Thanks! Now I'm just desparetly looking for a way to get MLO tasks > > into myiPhone! > > Can confirm we are working on it. I can say that my personaliPhoneis > missing my MLO tasks also. > Now that we have v3 released we can concentrate oniPhonewith more > dedication. > > Andrey. > > On May 30, 12:10 am, jamezzz wrote: > > > Wow! Just discovering everything I can do with the automatic > > formatting featuresamazing work! > > > One think I'd like to do is to set up an automatic formatting rule > > that effects the colors and sidebar color for tasks under a given Top > > Level Parent or Top Level Project. Unfortunately, I do not see those > > options under Conditions. I would love to see these options added to > > the available conditions, just as you have them available under the > > Groups for defining Filter Views. > > > Thanks! Now I'm just desparetly looking for a way to get MLO tasks > > into myiPhone! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[MLO] TODO list improvement - daily review
I am a big fan of MLO. I've used a number of different systems and so far it is the best combination of things. One think I really like about Franklin Planner is the daily review of what to do that day. They have you review the various things you have, then assign three priorities, all of which you expect to get done that day (actually, the 'C' priorities are things you hope to get done). I've found that little daily review of what to get done really helps. In MLO, this is a pain. You go through your todo list and try to tweek the priorities so they go in the order you want to do them. You can (I suppose) change your due date to today, but if course sometimes you want to do things that aren't actually due today (gasp). In any case, in MLO there is lots of flipping back and forth between outline view and the todo list. How it's done I haven't a final opinion, but a process of reviewing your todos for the daily priorities seems like a good one to me. You go through the todo list and mark those you intend to do today, either adding priorities or just specifying the order. Then, the day's planned tasks show up in a different color, or a star, or something, at the top. Again, the exact method I leave to greater minds. But I think the process of a daily review of what you will do today needs to be smoothed and made part of the process. PS. I also think a calendar view would be great. I would also like a type of task called an appointment, which always has a due date and time and shows up in a different color. You wouldn't have to use it... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[MLO] Re: Repriorizing
Actually I'd like to second Alexandra! I'm using MLO since years and to be honest, the only feature I never really got to work by 100% (according to my needs) had been those "to- do ordering options". It would make perfect sense for me to for example pick every morning those "must do today" kind of tasks, and mark them by a specific flag (or actually as I do it... move them into a specific folder). Then, in a second step, I'd order them the way I'd like working on them (while allowing me, to change this order by drag and drop, as soon as this might be necessary). According to me, that's not at all opposed to GTD! I myself like to pick from my various lists, what I believe should be done during a specific day. But then, there should be a kind of order, you're processing your tasks one after the other. I think, you'll have to make this order anyway... either just "mentally", or rather physically (by sorting your tasks manually by drag and drop). As I said, I would be very happy to see this working... I certainly can live without (since there are always workarounds), but I would be very happy, to having this additional feature. Eberhard On 19 Jun., 15:29, Alexis wrote: > Thank you guys! > @Sergey: > Yes, there are ways to workaround. But in my company priorities > change, new tasks appear and make the actual order irrelevant. I don´t > want to flag tasks oder mark them as not so relevant. I don´t want to > see them as long i deal with more important ones. I want to push them > further down to focus on the tasks above. > > I guess Richard amd many others think the same way. Actually it´s not > a big thing to achieve. If you try to drag & drop in the Do-List it > looks like it would almost work. Until the disapointing message > appears (-;) > > Let´s elaborate how and when manual sorting would make sense. Assume > the Do-List is sorted by computed score. The dragging of a task within > tasks with identical property-values (Imp. Urg. Due) should be no > problem. If you would drag the task to a position it never would have > been sorted to then the taskproperties should adapt to the destination > position. The property-values (Imp. Urg. Due) would then be changed to > justify the new position. > Another option would be the possibility to copy and paste property- > values (Imp. Urg. Due) from one task to another. The result would be > similar. Maybe this would be easier for Andrey to realise. I hope he > can manage to drop a line or two, as i think many would benefit from > that option. > > Alexandra --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[MLO] Re: Feature Request: 10 Features
Hi Alexandra, actually I do appreciate a lot your thoughtful post, though I didn't have the time yet, to comment on each of your points. Will do it as short as possible.. Eberhard On 9 Jun., 01:05, Alexis wrote: > Hi, im a total MLO-Newbie but a fan already. > > 1. Drag & Drop in the To Do-List should be possible even if the list > is sorted by Computed Score. I mean it´s all about whats the next > thing i have to do. Should i really change the Importance and Urgency > Values for changing the order of my tasks? Why not allow drag & drop > and let MLO calculate and adapt those values for the dragged position? I definitely would be very happy to have a possibility to "manually" sort taks in a to-do view. I'm therefore seconding your request by 100%. > 2. Many tasks i can´t do at the moment. There should be a defer > function for tasks to hide/defer them for a specific amount of time, > which should be minutes to days or even weeks. Technical that would be > setting the start time to a future time/date. Not a problem for me. I myself, in the past, defined way too many due dates for tasks that actually do NOT have a real "due date". Then I had to re-schedule them again and again, since I just put too much on my plate for a specific date. I now try to schedule (i.e. set due dates of) taks less often, and just pick in a daily review (each morning) what I'm trying to do that particular day. On the other hand I'm using quiet extensively the shortcuts for "due date +1 day" etc. > 3. The Format Options of tasks should affect the whole line (row) of > the task even if the order of the columns has been changed in the To- > Do list. If you drag the icons to the left of the tasks name you see > what i mean. Same for the name of the groups. Discussed already. > 4. There are some inconsistencies regarding the hotkeys. Some Hotkeys > are not changeable (F5, F8) although they are assignable but not > working. There should be a warning if you´re trying to assign an > already used hotkey to a function. It should be possible to assign any > key to any function. Would be loevely, I agree! That's also somehting which is annoying me, since I simply cannot set up system of hotkeys, that would by 100% LOGIC for me. > 5. The Formatting options in Tasknotes are way too limited. Even worse > is that keyoperations do not work the way everybody ist used to > nowadays. CTRL + Backspace deletes the word left from the cursor. That > is normal. But CTRL + Del deletes the whole task (instead of deleting > the word right from the cursor). If you select a whole line with the > mouse and delete it there is still a blank line left! Paragraphs > should be moveable with ALT + Arrow Up/Down. The formats bold, italic, > underlined, (un-) numbered lists should be the minimum. Would be good, but wouldn't be a real priority for me. I'm not using the notes section very often anyway. > 6. Undo and Redo should be possible in a multistep way. I think we're having that already, right? > 7. I doubt it´s the best idea to specify a fixed position for icons. > It would be better to give the icons a hierachy number and let them > freely fill the icon column without replacing each other. The least > important icons will than maybe not be visible due a lack of space. Not be a big issue for me. > 8. It would be great to have the themes individually for every view in > the To-Do Views to feel that you are in the right view. It would ease > the work also. Maybe right, but making things certainly even more complex. I find myself already now "playing" around way too much with color coding, auto formatting, ... :-)) > 9. The One Point Something Numbers for Importance, Urgencys should be > replaced by more reasonable Numbers like 0 to 200 with beeing 100 in > the Middle. So it would be easier to get a feel for them. Not an issue for me. I'm just tapping on those little "triangles" below those sliders. That's enough for me. > 10. Importance, Urgency and maybe Effort should optional be visible in > the line of an task. It could be a number or maybe better some tiny > vertical bar (like progressbar) with showing concrete numbers while > hovering with the mousepointer above. To be honest, I'm not using Importance/Urgancy too much. Therefore I shouldn't comment on that. > I hope at least some features were new and will be appreciated by > other users and the developers. Keep up the good work! > > Alexandra Thanks for all those interesting ideas/suggestion. I'm sure, Andrey will carefully consider and (hopefully) implement them in furture releases. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http:
[MLO] Re: TODO list improvement - daily review
Many have asked for a daily goal option. Some mention using the weekly goal as a daily goal. With the new version, I use weekly goal as intended but now mark those with a red flag for those that need to be done today. I then have a view where the red flag options are at the top, followed by those with a date and then the remaining weekly goals. I still would love to have the ability to manually reorder the items in the list :-) John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[MLO] Re: Bit the bullet and upgraded...
Thanks Andrey, I head off in July, but still need to try it out to see if it works OK on my PPC or not. So no rush. Mine is pretty old and standard so I hope I will not have any problems Cheers, Grant On Jun 17, 11:09 am, Andrey wrote: > Grant, > > When is your vacation? We will prepare a special build for you if > needed before that :) > > Andrey. > > On Jun 17, 12:33 am, Grant wrote: > > > Even without the calendar I s much want, I decided to upgrade... I > > used the trial and liked the columns feature enough to justify the > > upgrade... now I hope the PPC version problems will be ironed out > > before my vacation... > > Cheers, > > Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[MLO] Re: Feature request: iPhone...
please, throw us a bone! On 5 jun, 07:44, Andrey wrote: > I will post something as soon as UI is ready for the screenshots. The > most work done now is related to data and logic layers. > > A. > > On Jun 4, 1:48 am, Mark Levison wrote: > > > > > Something that might help is if Andrey posted a few of the current Screen > > shots as early teasers. It could made clear that this is a work in progress > > and subject to change, yet it would renew faith and convince some that this > > product will eventually appear. > > > Cheers > > Mark > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:20 PM, scoobie > > wrote: > > > > Its going to be a very big job to get it on theiphoneunless its got > > > scaled back features. Just implementing the tree structure on such a > > > small screen will be a challenge. > > > > On 3 June, 11:55, pottster wrote: > > > > See below from Andrey - in response to a post yesterday. > > > > > > Thanks! Now I'm just desparetly looking for a way to get MLO tasks > > > > > into myiPhone! > > > > > Can confirm we are working on it. I can say that my personaliPhoneis > > > > missing my MLO tasks also. > > > > Now that we have v3 released we can concentrate oniPhonewith more > > > > dedication. > > > > > Andrey. > > > > > On Jun 2, 11:10 pm, macanha wrote: > > > > > > At least a "inbox" app will be something for US. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[MLO] Re: Discussion on mlo-for-blackberry
If you develop OLM for the BB, you will be the first outline task application that is native to both the BB and the MS OS desktop as far as I can tell. Add to that the clean and simple OLM sync with Outlook and you will have an unparalleled product. There are a lot of BB business people out there looking for a task outline application if you search the web for a such a beast. I have been looking for over 3 years now and constantly see posts bemoaning how worthless the task function is on the BB and are begging for someone to come up with a product like the Bonzai for the Palm. I owned Bonzai back when I had a Palm and it was great but Natara looks to have no intention of developing for the BB. OLM is better anyway but shares the same lack of a BB app. I also used todomatrix but navigation is just plain clunky plus I do not want to work off of the web for a desktop version not to mention it sends intrusive messages regarding access to the website. The trouble with BB tasks begins with the worthlessness of the Outlook task function. Now that I have figured out through the advanced Outlook Sync feature to sync only the action items on the task list view, the integration with Outlook is pretty damn good and allows me to sync those tasks with categories/contexts with the BB. But navigating and filtering tasks by category on the BB is slow and visually horrible - it is virtually unusable. I really don't need the full functionality of the OLM desktop on my BB. I primarily want an outline view that can expand and collapse - everything else will be frosting on the cake. I am a project manager and a simple task list is just too unwieldy. Most of the iPhone market is made up by consumers using it as a web toy and competing in that app market will be like shouting across a packed football stadium to a friend on the other side. Take care of us in the BB business market. I can't believe you won't be quickly rewarded for your efforts. On Jun 12, 11:20 am, Andrey wrote: > We will start with iPhone and see how it works. Then we will think > about Blackberry > > Andrey. > > On Jun 10, 8:18 pm, Gourami wrote: > > > Is there any intention to add blackberry support for mlo? This is > > better than the software I use at the moment on the blackberry but... > > the bb support is a prerequisite for me to swap back to mlo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[MLO] Folders in To-Do List
I didn´t want to write feature request cause i´m not sure if this isn ´t possible already somehow. I would love to have folders in the Do list with a little +- symbol to open/close the folder to see the tasks within. Just like in the outline. This has not necessarily something to do with subtasks. It should also be possible e.g. for tasks where i use the notes as reference or all tasks with recurrence or whatever tasks i´d like to group that way. In the Do-List this container for tasks should have its own properties und could be sorted by those. If it comes to subtasks/projekts i´d like to have the possibility to see all subtasks instead of only one (works already) and have the opportunity to collapse those under the parent project name/task which now constantly dissapears. I guess this would increase the overview and of course would save space/lines. It makes me feel calm to see just as many tasks i have to. ;-) Alexandra --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To post to this group, send email to myLifeOrganized@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/myLifeOrganized?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
