RE: [MLO] automatize Goal

[robisme (Olivier R)]

Hi,
Very relevant thank you.
I suppose there is actually "wrong" uses, or "less productive" uses if you 
prefer, ans I very like the use you explained me, which at least, gives me a 
meaningfull use of goals.

Olivier

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RE: [MLO] Re: So apparently beta testing for Android version 2 STILL hasn't started....(sigh)

[Dwight Arthur]

Hi Jean-Marc. Yes, there is a war and just this February the city where MLO 
keeps its offices had a terrorist explosion 
(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31575384). I did computer work in New 
York City in 2001 and we lost about four months productivity after the 
September 11 attack. One big issue is that it’s terribly difficult to retain 
your talented and knowledgeable developers after something like this happens.

 

Anyhow, I’m staying with MLO not because I feel sorry for the citizens of 
Ukraine and not because I’m doing a charitable act, but just because I feel 
even the old, tired Android version is by far the most powerful and flexible 
task management tool available on Android today.

-Dwight

 

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[mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Marc Meessen
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:14 AM
To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MLO] Re: So apparently beta testing for Android version 2 STILL 
hasn't started(sigh)

 

Just wanted to point out that there is a war going on in Andrey's country 
(Ukrainia) if I am not mistaken. This can explain the "slugish" development. 
How would we work it out if our country was torn by a civil war.

 

Jmm

Le mercredi 22 avril 2015 14:31:54 UTC+2, Holmes245 a écrit :

Losing my patience with Andrey, seriously. I really don't think they need to 
take on more platforms with the development being this slow. On March 26, MLO 
team posted on Facebook a response in the comments to someone who inquired 
about the Android update:

 

"A little Android update - the development is finished and V2 is now ready for 
beta testing! When all the tests will run successfully, we will make the 
release. Thank you for being MLO user and for your patience."

 

Keep in mind, that was March 26. I posted a comment in response to the MLO 
team, commenting that something like that aught to have been a major post or 
update on their social sites or blog. I saw a response from them today, on 
April 22nd, nearly a month from their March 26 statement, stating:

 

"A post regarding Android update will be certainly a separate one. As soon as 
beta testing starts, we will make announcement with app screenshots and the 
list of new features."

 

On March 26, last month, they said that MLO v.2 for Android was ready for beta 
testing. I thought that sounded great. Now we're hearing, on April 22nd that it 
hasn't started but it's ready. 

 

Sure, sure, right.

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RE: [MLO] set task properties as active filter

[Dwight Arthur]

Hi, Remco.

 

Bear in mind that when you are adding tasks in a filtered view, each task you 
add is being inserted at some specific point in the outline. I don’t remember 
the rules and don’t have time to work them out right now (maybe another reader 
can help) but whenever you create a task it is either at the root, or the very 
top of the hierarchy, or else it has a parent. If you set up the parent with 
the context you want, under some circumstances the new task will inherit the 
context. Three ways a task can get created include (1) hit the insert button 
and type it in, (2) send it in through rapid task entry, (3) enter it elsewhere 
then use drag and drop to move it. I forget which of these ways causes context 
to be inherited.

 

Anyhow if you get this set up correctly, your new tasks will inherit contects. 
The inheritance will be from the parent and not from the view filter, but if 
you set it up right it can have the same result as what you want.

-Dwight

 

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[mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Remco Vaal
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:05 AM
To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MLO] set task properties as active filter

 

is it possible to set all task properties based on the active filter? I ofter 
filter out tasks based on context. If I create a new task within that view will 
be appreacite if it obtain the same context settings automaticaly

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RE: [MLO] Re: Unable to add tasks or subtasks to my MLO file

[Dwight Arthur]

Hi Alan. Have you written to MLO Support at supp...@mylifeorganized.net?

-Dwight

 

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[mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Ming Kong
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 12:12 PM
To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MLO] Re: Unable to add tasks or subtasks to my MLO file

 

I can't copy any tasks into a new file. It is so frustrating... A lot of work 
needs to get done and organized...

 

Help~~~

 

This error keeps coming up, every 3 months or so... Why?

On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 3:46:26 PM UTC+8, Stéph wrote:

Hello Alan,

 

Have you tried it with a new MLO file - just set up a test file and try 
synching that. If you can add tasks to it, then the problem isn't Windows 8.1.  
It could then be a problem with a corruption in your MLO file.  That happened 
to me once - I was able to spot the corruption by opening the .xml file in 
another app (can't remember whether it was notepad, Word or something else) and 
looking for where the pattern of items parameters goes wrong.

 

Another way to look for and solve a corruption would be to copy sections of 
your MLO file into a fresh file and see when the problem with adding items 
comes back.  You can narrow it down to one project or a single item with the 
problem and then you'll have recovered almost all of your file in the new MLO 
outline.

 

Hope that helps,

Stéphane

 

 


On Friday, 6 March 2015 14:42:30 UTC, Alan Ming Kong wrote:

Dear all:

 

Most of my time with MLO was on Win 7, which was great. I switched to and used 
Win 8 for a short period of time, and now I am using Win 8.1. My MLO is 4.1.0 
Professional Edition.

 

I am unable to add tasks or subtasks in my MLO data file. I encountered the 
same issue on Win 7, and resolved it by Save As or Export and Import (sorry, 
cannot remember).

 

Now I have tried the same method to resolve the problem and failed. I have also 
tried Run the program as Administrator and Compatibility Mode of Win 7&8. None 
worked. I am really frustrated now as my MLO file contains a lot of my career 
and personal planning data.

 

Would greatly appreciate your help!

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[MLO] How to create a new task within a workspace or filter that has the same propertie

[Baddr el Din]

Hello,

it is already possible to create a child task with the contexts of its parent 
task. The copying of contexts from the parent is a general MLO-setting.

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RE: [MLO] automatize Goal

[Dwight Arthur]

Olivier

As you know the tools in MLO can be used a lot of different ways, and anything 
that works for you is right, there’s no wrong. So I can’t talk about what 
“goal” really means or should mean. I can only tell you about how I use it.

 

For me, start date tells the first day a task *can* be done and due date tells 
the date after which the task is no longer possible or meaningful. These dates 
tell when the task is possible, but do not tell anything about when I *want* to 
do it. For that, I use importance, star and goal. Importance=200 means that 
this task must be done immediately upon becoming active, in other words I want 
it to be done within an hour or so. Star means I want it done in a day or so. 
Weekly and monthly goals mean that I want it done in a week or so or that I 
want it done in a month or so. I wish that there was a quarterly goal but there 
isn’t so I use yearly goals to mean that I want it done in a quarter or so.

 

I do most of my work off of a to-do list called “daily” that shows tasks with a 
star, tasks with the context “☆Today”, anything with a due date in the next 3 
days, weekly goals last modified more than a week ago, monthly goals modified 
more than a month ago, yearly goals modified more than a quarter ago, and some 
other stuff. It’s sorted by importance, so tasks with importance=200 are at the 
top.

 

My question to you was based on my perception that you were using three 
indicators to get only one indicator worth of information. You are (I think) 
looking for tasks that are goals, divided into brackets based on time remaining 
until due date. You can already easily divide tasks into brackets based on time 
remaining for due date. For example, “((DueDateTime on or after Today+7) AND 
(DueDateTime on or before Today+30))” will show you all of the tasks due in the 
next month but not in the next week. So all you need is one indicator that a 
task is a goal and some well-written filters and you have what you are looking 
for. By contrast, indicators that say “I want to get this done within an hour 
of when it comes active” or “I want to get this done within a day of when it 
comes active” or “I want to get this done within a week of when it comes 
active” or “I want to get this done within a month of when it comes active” or 
“I want to get this done within a quarter of when it comes active” actually 
tells me five different things that I cannot record with fewer than five 
indicators.

 

So to answer your other question, for me a task that’s a weekly goal with a due 
date in a year would be a task that *could* be done any time this year but that 
I *want* to do this week. A task that has a yearly goal and a due date a week 
away would possibly be a task that has been sitting in my queue for a long time 
and that’s running out of time. It’s a task that I’m not all that passionate 
about but if it isn’t going to get done soon will become impossible or 
meaningless. In other words, there’s a good chance it’s a task that’s going to 
be deleted.

 

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[mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of robisme (Olivier R)
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:47 PM
To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [MLO] automatize Goal

 

Hi,

 

In light of your question, I think I'm not understanding this function the 
right way.

Can you explain what exactly is a task with due date next week, beeing a year 
goal, and vice versa?

 

Shortly : what is a goal?

I feel like I "misfire" (is that an appropriate word?) 2 important things in 
MLO : Goals and Review.

 

Olivier

 



Le jeudi 23 avril 2015 22:02:09 UTC+2, Dwight Arthur a écrit :

Hi, Olivier. I’d like to make sure that I understand what you are proposing. If 
MLO worked as you are discussing, and I created a task with a due date next 
week and marked it a year goal, would MLO automatically change it to a week 
goal? How about if I created a task with a due date a year from now and marked 
it as a week goal, would MLO right away change it to a year goal?

-Dwight

 

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(Olivier R)
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:04 PM
To: mylifeo...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: [MLO] automatize Goal

 

Hi,

 

Perhaps have I misunderstood the principle of the Goal functionality, but I'd 
like MLO to auto change it depending on due date.

I mean, when a Year goal is coming next month, mark it as month, and so on for 
week.

 

1) is that possible?

2) am I wrong in my use of this function? (not intended to mean "THIS year, 
THIS month or THIS week as I do, but rather YEARLY, MONTHLY, WEEKLY")

 

Olivier

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[MLO] Re: MLO Workflow: help and suggestions needed!

[Dwight Arthur]

On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 8:06:11 AM UTC-4, DBvc wrote:
>
> I'm new to MLO and i'm valuating if can fit my actual task/project 
> workflow.
>

Hi, Dario. You are not the first person in your position and you won't be 
the last. There are a lot of people with pretty similar situations around, 
some still looking for help in figuring out what to do and others resigned 
to some uncomfortable compromise. This is just my personal opinion and I 
really don't know enough about your situation to judge but my take is that 
you are stuck at the boundary between task management and project 
management.

Task management involves capturing my whole backlog of things that need to 
be accomplished, organizing them in a way that helps me quickly and easily 
determine what I am supposed to be doing now, get a short list of useful 
things to do next, prevents urgent or important things from getting lost, 
and minimizes the amount of time I spend managing my backlog instead of 
completing it. It may involve figuring out which things in my backlog are 
just never going to happen and helping me abandoning them. It may involve 
keeping track of what's already done. It may involve figuring out what's 
dependent on what so I don't waste time working on things that are not 
ready to be completed. It may involve the relationship between my tasks and 
somebody else's tasks.

Project management involves identifying resource pools including resource 
capacity availability and schedules, planning the allocation of resources 
to tasks in a way that maximizes productivity, estimating timeframes and 
resource costs for project completion, budgeting, tracking actuals against 
plan, adjusting plans to accommodate variances with minimized adverse 
effect on profitability, and finding early indications of problems with the 
plan and making appropriate adjustments, and so on.

I consider MLO to be the very most powerful and capable task management 
software available. I do not consider it to be project management software. 
MLO is such a good task manager that it even includes some rudimentary 
project management capabilities, maybe even enough to get you and Robert 
through your day. maybe not, maybe you really need project management 
software. Wikipedia offers a list of 166 different applications for project 
management software, maybe one of them would suit you better. I have 
previous experience with one of them, Microsoft Project. It required some 
expensive hardware and software, a skilled sysadmin to keep the wheels 
turning, one to two fulltime team members devoted to ensuring that all the 
project plans were up to date plus finding and explaining variances. In 
addition every team member spent around a half hour per day recording what 
was accomplished, how many hours work remain on each open task, what open 
dependencies are blocking their progress, and what unplanned tasks occupied 
their time.

It's tempting to try to achieve the high levels of control and 
documentation that come from fullblown project management but to do it with 
an inexpensive, easy to use task manager. Some people actually do figure 
out the compromises necessary to succeed at this. For most, it's like the 
search for delicious filling food that isn't fattening, or the search for a 
low-risk high-return investment.

Maybe Andrey and the MLO team should invest in making MLO a better project 
management tool. It has been suggested often by a lot of people, including 
me. But at this point, I think that would just move them from being the 
best and most powerful task manager into being a rudimentary, 
unsophisticated also-ran project management tool. I wouldn't recommend it.

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Re: [MLO] automatize Goal

[robisme (Olivier R)]

Hi,

In light of your question, I think I'm not understanding this function the 
right way.
Can you explain what exactly is a task with due date next week, beeing a 
year goal, and vice versa?

Shortly : what is a goal?
I feel like I "misfire" (is that an appropriate word?) 2 important things 
in MLO : Goals and Review.

Olivier



Le jeudi 23 avril 2015 22:02:09 UTC+2, Dwight Arthur a écrit :
>
> Hi, Olivier. I’d like to make sure that I understand what you are 
> proposing. If MLO worked as you are discussing, and I created a task with a 
> due date next week and marked it a year goal, would MLO automatically 
> change it to a week goal? How about if I created a task with a due date a 
> year from now and marked it as a week goal, would MLO right away change it 
> to a year goal?
>
> -Dwight
>
>  
>
> *From:* mylifeo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> mylifeo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *robisme 
> (Olivier R)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:04 PM
> *To:* mylifeo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* [MLO] automatize Goal
>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> Perhaps have I misunderstood the principle of the Goal functionality, but 
> I'd like MLO to auto change it depending on due date.
>
> I mean, when a Year goal is coming next month, mark it as month, and so on 
> for week.
>
>  
>
> 1) is that possible?
>
> 2) am I wrong in my use of this function? (not intended to mean "THIS 
> year, THIS month or THIS week as I do, but rather YEARLY, MONTHLY, WEEKLY")
>
>  
>
> Olivier
>
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[MLO] Re: Unable to add tasks or subtasks to my MLO file

[Andrei Bacean]

Another idea, maybe you run mlo in a trial mode. Check your licence.

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[MLO] Re: Unable to add tasks or subtasks to my MLO file

[Andrei Bacean]

You say that you encountered the same problem with win 7 and later with win 8.
Maybe the problem appears due to a conflict with some software which you 
install like antivirus, or some windows optimisation software.

If your file is located in a cloud storage like Dropbox, try to move it to 
another location. Maybe Dropbox is blocking your for during sync.

Also maybe you run by mistake more than one instance of mlo that uses the same 
file. Check the task manager next time when the error appears.




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RE: [MLO] automatize Goal

[Dwight Arthur]

Hi, Olivier. I’d like to make sure that I understand what you are proposing. If 
MLO worked as you are discussing, and I created a task with a due date next 
week and marked it a year goal, would MLO automatically change it to a week 
goal? How about if I created a task with a due date a year from now and marked 
it as a week goal, would MLO right away change it to a year goal?

-Dwight

 

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[mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of robisme (Olivier R)
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:04 PM
To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MLO] automatize Goal

 

Hi,

 

Perhaps have I misunderstood the principle of the Goal functionality, but I'd 
like MLO to auto change it depending on due date.

I mean, when a Year goal is coming next month, mark it as month, and so on for 
week.

 

1) is that possible?

2) am I wrong in my use of this function? (not intended to mean "THIS year, 
THIS month or THIS week as I do, but rather YEARLY, MONTHLY, WEEKLY")

 

Olivier

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[MLO] iPad: how to move items away from inbox fast?

[Baddr el Din]

Hello,

I wonder how I can move items from inbox away quick on ipad. is there a move 
dialog or something similar?

Regards
BD

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[MLO] Re: So apparently beta testing for Android version 2 STILL hasn't started....(sigh)

[Jean-Marc Meessen]

Just wanted to point out that there is a war going on in Andrey's country 
(Ukrainia) if I am not mistaken. This can explain the "slugish" 
development. How would we work it out if our country was torn by a civil 
war.

Jmm

Le mercredi 22 avril 2015 14:31:54 UTC+2, Holmes245 a écrit :
>
> Losing my patience with Andrey, seriously. I really don't think they need 
> to take on more platforms with the development being this slow. On March 
> 26, MLO team posted on Facebook a response in the comments to someone who 
> inquired about the Android update:
>
> "A little Android update - the development is finished and V2 is now 
> ready for beta testing! When all the tests will run successfully, we will 
> make the release. Thank you for being MLO user and for your patience."
>
> Keep in mind, that was March 26. I posted a comment in response to the MLO 
> team, commenting that something like that aught to have been a major post 
> or update on their social sites or blog. I saw a response from them today, 
> on April 22nd, nearly a month from their March 26 statement, stating:
>
> "A post regarding Android update will be certainly a separate one. As 
> soon as beta testing starts, we will make announcement with app screenshots 
> and the list of new features."
>
> On March 26, last month, they said that MLO v.2 for Android was ready for 
> beta testing. I thought that sounded great. Now we're hearing, on April 
> 22nd that it hasn't started but it's ready. 
>
> Sure, sure, right.
>

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[MLO] set task properties as active filter

[robisme (Olivier R)]

It's a good idea .

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[MLO] set task properties as active filter

[Remco Vaal]

is it possible to set all task properties based on the active filter? I 
ofter filter out tasks based on context. If I create a new task within that 
view will be appreacite if it obtain the same context settings automaticaly

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[MLO] how to configure task review by default

[Remco Vaal]

Is it possible to set a task review by default for each new task created?

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[MLO] How to create a new task within a workspace or filter that has the same propertie

[Remco Vaal]

It will be really helpfull if you have setup workspace on desktop with a 
filter to filter out some tasks that a new task cerated within that 
workspace / filter view has the same properties as the active filter.

Is that already possible, if so how to use?

Thanks

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[MLO] Re: So apparently beta testing for Android version 2 STILL hasn't started....(sigh)

[robisme (Olivier R)]

I suggest, MLO people, you'd release something asap, because you are losing 
Android customers. And when a new "boat" will fit the needs, soon or later you 
will lose Windows customers.

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[MLO] Re: Computed Score not working

['Ron' via MyLifeOrganized]

I have set up a view and sorted by computed score.  As far as I can see 
there is no computed score working.  I have set in my options to show my 
computed score in task statistics.  I show importance as zero, urgency as 
zero, and Importance&urgency as zero on all tasks.  I checked on my laptop 
(which I sync to) as well last night and it is showing the same results. 
 Not sure if there is something wrong with my mlo file or if it is 
something else.  I have re-installed software to no avail.  I told it to 
get rid of my settings but when I re-install it still shows my license, 
etc... 

On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 1:13:49 PM UTC-6, Andrei Bacean wrote:
>
> Hi, Have you checked to sort tasks by computed score, in the view settings?

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[MLO] Re: Unable to add tasks or subtasks to my MLO file

[Alan Ming Kong]

I can't copy any tasks into a new file. It is so frustrating... A lot of 
work needs to get done and organized...

Help~~~

This error keeps coming up, every 3 months or so... Why?

On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 3:46:26 PM UTC+8, Stéph wrote:
>
> Hello Alan,
>  
> Have you tried it with a new MLO file - just set up a test file and try 
> synching that. If you can add tasks to it, then the problem isn't Windows 
> 8.1.  It could then be a problem with a corruption in your MLO file.  That 
> happened to me once - I was able to spot the corruption by opening the .xml 
> file in another app (can't remember whether it was notepad, Word or 
> something else) and looking for where the pattern of items parameters goes 
> wrong.
>  
> Another way to look for and solve a corruption would be to copy sections 
> of your MLO file into a fresh file and see when the problem with adding 
> items comes back.  You can narrow it down to one project or a single item 
> with the problem and then you'll have recovered almost all of your file in 
> the new MLO outline.
>  
> Hope that helps,
> Stéphane
>  
>  
>
> On Friday, 6 March 2015 14:42:30 UTC, Alan Ming Kong wrote:
>
>> Dear all:
>>
>> Most of my time with MLO was on Win 7, which was great. I switched to and 
>> used Win 8 for a short period of time, and now I am using Win 8.1. My MLO 
>> is 4.1.0 Professional Edition.
>>
>> I am unable to add tasks or subtasks in my MLO data file. I encountered 
>> the same issue on Win 7, and resolved it by Save As or Export and Import 
>> (sorry, cannot remember).
>>
>> Now I have tried the same method to resolve the problem and failed. I 
>> have also tried Run the program as Administrator and Compatibility Mode of 
>> Win 7&8. None worked. I am really frustrated now as my MLO file contains a 
>> lot of my career and personal planning data.
>>
>> Would greatly appreciate your help!
>>
>

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[MLO] Re: So apparently beta testing for Android version 2 STILL hasn't started....(sigh)

[G German]

Hi I am in the same boat, please let me know what do you move into if you 
jump ship. Haven't seen anything in Android space that has good user 
experience.

On Thursday, April 23, 2015 at 3:07:42 AM UTC+1, Robert F wrote:
>
> It's really sad. MLO is the best platform available. But it's going to 
> fall to less capable ccompetition because they better manage customer 
> expectations and provide ongoing incremental improvement and support.
>
> I'm very sadly going to jump ship to another product. Much prefer MLO but 
> Android is too far behind now. The user experience is important, as IOS 
> shows time after time. MLO on Android is just too clunky to be enjoyable 
> and at times an impediment to its job.
>
> I would happily pay for a wicked product. But hard to buy into vaporware.
>
> pS: I left 5 star review years ago and tend to be very patient. I'm not a 
> complainer. If I am bailing I'm sure a great many others already have.
>
> On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 5:31:54 AM UTC-7, Holmes245 wrote:
>>
>> Losing my patience with Andrey, seriously. I really don't think they need 
>> to take on more platforms with the development being this slow. On March 
>> 26, MLO team posted on Facebook a response in the comments to someone who 
>> inquired about the Android update:
>>
>> "A little Android update - the development is finished and V2 is now 
>> ready for beta testing! When all the tests will run successfully, we will 
>> make the release. Thank you for being MLO user and for your patience."
>>
>> Keep in mind, that was March 26. I posted a comment in response to the 
>> MLO team, commenting that something like that aught to have been a major 
>> post or update on their social sites or blog. I saw a response from them 
>> today, on April 22nd, nearly a month from their March 26 statement, stating:
>>
>> "A post regarding Android update will be certainly a separate one. As 
>> soon as beta testing starts, we will make announcement with app screenshots 
>> and the list of new features."
>>
>> On March 26, last month, they said that MLO v.2 for Android was ready for 
>> beta testing. I thought that sounded great. Now we're hearing, on April 
>> 22nd that it hasn't started but it's ready. 
>>
>> Sure, sure, right.
>>
>

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