Re: [MLO] Re: THIS IS HUGE (for me at least): Inbox "Task by Email" can be moved

[birdv...@gmail.com]

​Hi Nick, if I understand you correctly, I have done something similar
because the mobile device (at least for iOS) has a  primitive interface and
it's very easy to get lost. So only allow the mobile version to see a
sliver of what my PC sees.​

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Nick Clark  wrote:

> Eddie - I use a similar approach as a consultant working for several
> organisations, but add the step of creating a separate workspace on the
> mobile devices zoomed to the folder level of the organisation. This way I
> can used any of the views while focussed on a particular organisation, not
> just a flat one.
> Doesn't work so well with the Windows version as it multiplies tabs if you
> switch views.
> Nick
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RE: [MLO] Re: Advice needed on how to use Flags & Contexts in MLO. (e.g. Can Flags be set to be 'inherited' ?)

[Wallace Gilbraith]

Hi John,

 

If I recall, GTD was developed as a paper-based system, eg with lists in 
sections of a filing cabinet.

MLO can do it with Dates, all in one list (profile). When do you want to Do, or 
Be Reminded Of, a task?

I found Due Dates alone to be a good way to start, and I don’t mind postponing 
tasks.

I experimented with Start Dates, but don’t use them much, as I don’t use 
auto-sort. 

Someday/ Maybe doesn’t have dates. They’re usually whole projects. 

What I do probably isn’t ‘Pure GTD’, but it’s enough to keep me on track.

 

Regards

 

Wol 

 

 

 

From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J Smith
Sent: 01 August 2016 16:18
To: MyLifeOrganized 
Subject: [MLO] Re: Advice needed on how to use Flags & Contexts in MLO. (e.g. 
Can Flags be set to be 'inherited' ?)

 

Are there any other fields in MLO (other than Context-tag) that a child task 
does inherit from a parent task?

 

For me these are deeply irritating issues, because I still haven't really 
managed to get MLO to work properly with the GTD method. 

To be honest sometime MLO feels like "The Monkey's Claw" [GRRR]. i.e. MLO has 
so much potential and is so full-featured, but there is always some unintended 
consequence of any new way of doing things that I manage to think up.

 

My main problem I just cant work a good way move tasks & projects between GTD 
'list'. MLO is such a powerful system and yet I feel stuck in 1st gear!

 

For my "waiting for" list I mostly live in Active tasks views and just kick 
things along the road by putting the Start Date into the future, and review 
things then, but that's not ideal.

 

My main problem is moving things between my "Someday-maybe" and my "Active" 
lists.

 

I have experimented by putting everything into one of 2 folder (i.e. one called 
"ASAP" and one folder called "Sometime_Maybe"). I then physically move the 
tasks between the 2 folders, but it's very clunky, particularly when you get 
into the hundreds of tasks.

 

To be honest I'm tempted to move back to pen & paper for a while as this 
technology is slightly getting in the way. 

 

J



On Saturday, 30 July 2016 22:32:17 UTC+1, Stéph wrote:

Hello John,

 

No, I'm afraid there's no way of setting preferences for inheritance. I've 
raised it for consideration a few times - In my case, for example, I'd like to 
switch off inheritance of contexts and I would like new items to have a default 
start date of Today and default end date matching its parent's. All this was 
possible back when I was a Bonsai user, but there's no sign that it's going to 
be introduced in MLO in the near future.

 

All the best,

Stéphane

 



On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 20:43:06 UTC+1, J Smith wrote:



Hello

 

I still need advice on how to structure things.

 

I am finding that putting too much information into my Context-tags gets pretty 
messy - particularly when I use views like "Active Actions by Context"(!)

 

Areas of Life

I am using top level folders to distinguish my Areas of Life (e.g. Work, 
Personal-Admin, Recreation). I think this works well because tasks will almost 
never change Area of Life. (Fwiw, I also have some stuff I dont have to do 
stored in other different top level folders.) So far so good.

 

But I can't decide how best to use: 
   A) Flags and 
   B) Context-tags  
in MLO ... so as to control:

   - GTD "List"   (e.g. .Active, .Someday/maybe, .Waiting etc) and 

   - GTD "Context"   (i.e. "where" type information: @PC, @Errands, @Phone, 
@Home... and also "required mood" type information:  ~Low_energy, 
~High_Resistance, ~Tiddler )


>From first principles, in MLO

 

A) Flags:
- A task in MLO can only have one flag. 

- A new task in MLO will not inherit the flag of its parent

 

B) Context-tags:

- A task can you have multiple Contexts-tags per task,

- MLO can be set up so that at a new child task will 'inherit' its 
Context-tag(s) from its parent.

It seems to me that any given task, in fact any entire Project, should only be 
in one GTD "List" at a time.

This would initially seem to point toward using Flags to control 'GTD List', 
but it is a pain when you add a child task to a project that it doesn't inherit 
the parent's flag (i.e. what would be the parent's GTD list status)

Likewise it would be nice to be able to apply both a "where" type Context-tags 
AND a "mood" type Context-tag to the same task. 

For example a task might be say:  "Ask boss for pay rise"@Phone   
~High_Resistance

 

But in general these contexts for individual Tasks are unlikely to inherit 
their values from their parents.

 

So, thinking it all through...

- Is there any way to get either get Flags to inherit their values 

OR

- Is there any way to get multiple Flags per task (without needing to inherit)

 

Any suggestions?

Thanks

J

 

 

 

 

 

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[MLO] Re: Advice needed on how to use Flags & Contexts in MLO. (e.g. Can Flags be set to be 'inherited' ?)

[J Smith]

Are there any other fields in MLO (other than Context-tag) that a child 
task does inherit from a parent task?

For me these are deeply irritating issues, because I still haven't really 
managed to get MLO to work properly with the GTD method. 

To be honest sometime MLO feels like "The Monkey's Claw" [GRRR]. i.e. MLO 
has so much potential and is so full-featured, but there is always some 
unintended consequence of any new way of doing things that I manage to 
think up.

My main problem I just cant work a good way move tasks & projects between 
GTD 'list'. MLO is such a powerful system and yet I feel stuck in 1st gear!

For my "waiting for" list I mostly live in Active tasks views and just kick 
things along the road by putting the Start Date into the future, and review 
things then, but that's not ideal.

My main problem is moving things between my "Someday-maybe" and my "Active" 
lists.

I have experimented by putting everything into one of 2 folder (i.e. one 
called "ASAP" and one folder called "Sometime_Maybe"). I then physically 
move the tasks between the 2 folders, but it's very clunky, particularly 
when you get into the hundreds of tasks.

To be honest I'm tempted to move back to pen & paper for a while as this 
technology is slightly getting in the way. 

J


On Saturday, 30 July 2016 22:32:17 UTC+1, Stéph wrote:
>
> Hello John,
>
> No, I'm afraid there's no way of setting preferences for inheritance. I've 
> raised it for consideration a few times - In my case, for example, I'd like 
> to switch off inheritance of contexts and I would like new items to have a 
> default start date of Today and default end date matching its parent's. All 
> this was possible back when I was a Bonsai user, but there's no sign that 
> it's going to be introduced in MLO in the near future.
>
> All the best,
> Stéphane
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 20:43:06 UTC+1, J Smith wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> I still need advice on how to structure things.
>>
>> I am finding that putting too much information into my Context-tags gets 
>> pretty messy - particularly when I use views like "Active Actions by 
>> Context"(!)
>>
>> Areas of Life
>> I am using top level folders to distinguish my Areas of Life (e.g. Work, 
>> Personal-Admin, Recreation). I think this works well because tasks will 
>> almost never change Area of Life. (Fwiw, I also have some stuff I dont have 
>> to do stored in other different top level folders.) So far so good.
>>
>>
>> But I can't decide how best to use: 
>>A) Flags and 
>>B) Context-tags  
>> in MLO ... so as to control:
>>- GTD "List"   (e.g. .Active, .Someday/maybe, .Waiting etc) and 
>>- GTD "Context"   (i.e. "where" type information: @PC, @Errands, 
>> @Phone, @Home... and also "required mood" type information:  ~Low_energy, 
>> ~High_Resistance, ~Tiddler )
>>
>> From first principles, in MLO
>>
>> A) Flags:
>> - A task in MLO can only have *one* flag. 
>> - A new task in MLO will *not* inherit the flag of its parent
>>
>> B) Context-tags:
>> - A task can you have *multiple* Contexts-tags per task,
>> - MLO can be set up so that at a new child task will 'inherit' its 
>> Context-tag(s) from its parent.
>>
>> It seems to me that any given task, in fact any entire Project, should 
>> only be in *one* GTD "List" at a time.
>> This would initially seem to point toward using Flags to control 'GTD 
>> List', but it is a pain when you add a child task to a project that it 
>> doesn't inherit the parent's flag (i.e. what would be the parent's GTD list 
>> status)
>>
>> Likewise it would be nice to be able to apply both a "where" type 
>> Context-tags AND a "mood" type Context-tag to the same task. 
>> For example a task might be say:  "Ask boss for pay rise"@Phone   
>> ~High_Resistance
>>
>> But in general these contexts for individual Tasks are unlikely to 
>> inherit their values from their parents.
>>
>> So, thinking it all through...
>> - Is there any way to get either get Flags to inherit their values 
>> OR
>> - Is there any way to get multiple Flags per task (without needing to 
>> inherit)
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [MLO] Re: THIS IS HUGE (for me at least): Inbox "Task by Email" can be moved

[Nick Clark]

Eddie - I use a similar approach as a consultant working for several 
organisations, but add the step of creating a separate workspace on the mobile 
devices zoomed to the folder level of the organisation. This way I can used any 
of the views while focussed on a particular organisation, not just a flat one.
Doesn't work so well with the Windows version as it multiplies tabs if you 
switch views.
Nick

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