[MLO] Re: Annoying 'feature' - mouse click selects area rather than item

2023-08-29 Thread Iain Carlin
Hi again Andrey,

After my last message I went back and did some further testing. I can now 
see what is happening.

If I click and drag on the text of a task it works as expected. However, if 
I'm slightly off and I'm in the empty space between the task name and the 
next column, it will start selecting rows of tasks rather than moving the 
individual task.

To be fair, that's actually consistent with how windows explorer works so I 
haven't really got a leg to stand on. However, in my MLO there's a big gap 
between the columns so it's easy to forget that clicking white space isn't 
the same as clicking the task name:

[image: Screenshot 2023-08-30 081933.png]

Maybe you can look at it for future updates. (If I want to select multiple 
items, I naturally use a right click and drag over the items or hold down 
shift and click top and bottom). 

For the time being, turning off one-click to edit and I will need to 
remember to make sure I'm on the text to move items, gets me where I need 
to be.

Cheers,

Iain

On Wednesday, 30 August 2023 at 12:10:02 am UTC+9:30 Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) 
wrote:

> Hi Iain,
>
> It is a side effect of "One click edit mode" switched ON by default in 
> MLO. In this mode when you click the task title in the outline it switched 
> to the edit mode without delay. It is helpful if you edit the title of the 
> tasks frequently. 
>
> If you switch this mode OFF you will get the behaviour you want with 
> drag&drop:  Tools->Options->Behaviour 
>
> Please let me know if it works as expected now. 
>
> I am not sure if I can keep both modes active though. 
>
> Thanks,
> Andrey.
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 5:39:01 PM UTC+3 cut...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In the desktop app, I frequently want to drag and drop a task from one 
>> context or folder to another.
>>
>> If you click on a task then drag the mouse, it selects the task and 
>> whatever other tasks you happend to drag the mouse over.
>>
>> Normally, I would expect that to work more like windows file explorer, 
>> where it would begin dragging the selected task.
>>
>> To achieve that, it's necessary to click (i.e. select) the task, un-click 
>> the mouse, then click again and do the drag to move.
>>
>> It's inconsistent with the way most other UI's operate.
>>
>> Hoping it can be addressed in a future update.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Iain Carlin
>>
>

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[MLO] Re: Annoying 'feature' - mouse click selects area rather than item

2023-08-29 Thread Iain Carlin
Hi Andrey,

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

I've just tried turning off "One click edit mode" as you suggested, but, 
unfortunately it hasn't made any difference.

It does mean that when I click an item it selects it in one click not two, 
however if I click on an unselected item and immediately drag it still 
selects all the items I drag over rather than moving the item that I 
'selected' first.

If you need, I can create a demonstration video for you and upload it 
somewhere.

Cheers,

Iain

On Wednesday, 30 August 2023 at 12:10:02 am UTC+9:30 Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) 
wrote:

> Hi Iain,
>
> It is a side effect of "One click edit mode" switched ON by default in 
> MLO. In this mode when you click the task title in the outline it switched 
> to the edit mode without delay. It is helpful if you edit the title of the 
> tasks frequently. 
>
> If you switch this mode OFF you will get the behaviour you want with 
> drag&drop:  Tools->Options->Behaviour 
>
> Please let me know if it works as expected now. 
>
> I am not sure if I can keep both modes active though. 
>
> Thanks,
> Andrey.
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 5:39:01 PM UTC+3 cut...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In the desktop app, I frequently want to drag and drop a task from one 
>> context or folder to another.
>>
>> If you click on a task then drag the mouse, it selects the task and 
>> whatever other tasks you happend to drag the mouse over.
>>
>> Normally, I would expect that to work more like windows file explorer, 
>> where it would begin dragging the selected task.
>>
>> To achieve that, it's necessary to click (i.e. select) the task, un-click 
>> the mouse, then click again and do the drag to move.
>>
>> It's inconsistent with the way most other UI's operate.
>>
>> Hoping it can be addressed in a future update.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Iain Carlin
>>
>

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[MLO] Re: deleted items?

2023-08-29 Thread A. W.
ach - thx
makes sense.

all the best for these crazy times.

Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) schrieb am Dienstag, 29. August 2023 um 20:53:54 UTC+2:

> The IDs of deleted items are stored in the file for 90 days. Only internal 
> IDs are stored, not the content. It is needed in case you sync to an older 
> file so that deleted IDs sent to this file and the items (tasks, contexts 
> etc) are deleted there as well. After 90 days the IDs of deleted items are 
> cleared from the file. 
>
> Andrey. 
>
> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:51:30 PM UTC+3 deug...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> File properties are showing deleted items.
>> I was wondering what this implies..:
>> - are the deleted items still somewhere stored?
>> - or is this just a statistical counter?
>>
>> Just curious - does anyone know?
>>
>> -Alexander
>>
>

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[MLO] Re: deleted items?

2023-08-29 Thread Andrey Tkachuk (MLO)
The IDs of deleted items are stored in the file for 90 days. Only internal 
IDs are stored, not the content. It is needed in case you sync to an older 
file so that deleted IDs sent to this file and the items (tasks, contexts 
etc) are deleted there as well. After 90 days the IDs of deleted items are 
cleared from the file. 

Andrey. 

On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:51:30 PM UTC+3 deug...@gmail.com wrote:

> File properties are showing deleted items.
> I was wondering what this implies..:
> - are the deleted items still somewhere stored?
> - or is this just a statistical counter?
>
> Just curious - does anyone know?
>
> -Alexander
>

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RE: [MLO] Re: Annoying 'feature' - mouse click selects area rather than item

2023-08-29 Thread Richard Collings
Ah – thanks, Andrey.   Not noticed that.

Have switched off One Click Mode and it looks like you now get the same 
behaviour as in Explorer

  *   One click to select and drag
  *   One click,  wait and click again to edit title
  *   Double click to jump to same task in other main view (if not a parent);  
and collapse/expand children (if parent)

Initial reaction is that this is better for me but will report back after using 
for a while

Richard

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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2023 3:40 PM
To: MyLifeOrganized 
Subject: [MLO] Re: Annoying 'feature' - mouse click selects area rather than 
item

Hi Iain,

It is a side effect of "One click edit mode" switched ON by default in MLO. In 
this mode when you click the task title in the outline it switched to the edit 
mode without delay. It is helpful if you edit the title of the tasks frequently.
If you switch this mode OFF you will get the behaviour you want with drag&drop: 
 Tools->Options->Behaviour

Please let me know if it works as expected now.

I am not sure if I can keep both modes active though.

Thanks,
Andrey.
On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 5:39:01 PM UTC+3 
cut...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,

In the desktop app, I frequently want to drag and drop a task from one context 
or folder to another.

If you click on a task then drag the mouse, it selects the task and whatever 
other tasks you happend to drag the mouse over.

Normally, I would expect that to work more like windows file explorer, where it 
would begin dragging the selected task.

To achieve that, it's necessary to click (i.e. select) the task, un-click the 
mouse, then click again and do the drag to move.

It's inconsistent with the way most other UI's operate.

Hoping it can be addressed in a future update.

Cheers,

Iain Carlin
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[MLO] Re: Annoying 'feature' - mouse click selects area rather than item

2023-08-29 Thread Andrey Tkachuk (MLO)
Hi Iain,

It is a side effect of "One click edit mode" switched ON by default in MLO. 
In this mode when you click the task title in the outline it switched to 
the edit mode without delay. It is helpful if you edit the title of the 
tasks frequently. 

If you switch this mode OFF you will get the behaviour you want with 
drag&drop:  Tools->Options->Behaviour 

Please let me know if it works as expected now. 

I am not sure if I can keep both modes active though. 

Thanks,
Andrey.

On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 5:39:01 PM UTC+3 cut...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In the desktop app, I frequently want to drag and drop a task from one 
> context or folder to another.
>
> If you click on a task then drag the mouse, it selects the task and 
> whatever other tasks you happend to drag the mouse over.
>
> Normally, I would expect that to work more like windows file explorer, 
> where it would begin dragging the selected task.
>
> To achieve that, it's necessary to click (i.e. select) the task, un-click 
> the mouse, then click again and do the drag to move.
>
> It's inconsistent with the way most other UI's operate.
>
> Hoping it can be addressed in a future update.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Iain Carlin
>

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