Re: [MLO] Re: MLO-Win v6 Ideas...

[Brandon Welch]

I personally hate the subscription model for apps and it is a huge 
deterrent for me when selecting whether or not to use something. I feel 
like I am already doing it with the cloud sync subsription, which makes 
some sense because there is ongoing infrastructure costs involved, and I am 
willing to pay for significant updates. I understand it is a more 
remunerative model for developers, but you will definitely lose customers 
going that way. As for the spiel about getting more updates, I personally 
don't see a huge amount more updating with software that I'm forced to rent 
instead of buy, and it actually seems to me if anything that the old update 
model creates more motivation to create meaningful updates that people are 
willing to pay for. If for financial reasons MLO went entirely 
subscription-based, I'd probably sign up because I'm a long-time user and 
many, many searches and trials have shown me that while almost everything 
else looks nicer (mostly talking about Windows), there's nothing out there 
with a comparable feature set. Just don't piss on my head and tell me it's 
raining...subscription models are all about generating more (and more 
steady) income.

On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 5:40:22 AM UTC-7 daniel wrote:

> As I pull my hp IpaQ out of the drawer and now try to find the power cord 
> to see if I left MLO on it :)
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 3:34 PM imajeff  wrote:
>
>> Agreed; I too have used MLO since before there was a version number 
>> (syncing with my Microsoft PDA before a smart phone was possible).
>> Ten years later I thought the difficulty with daily usage would be solved 
>> but now, even that was a long time ago and I struggle to maintain tasks. It 
>> seems mostly changing what would help me could hinder some other way 
>> someone uses it. Internally, it might require much planning plus a big 
>> rewrite, but they don't have funding to just hire another team to develop a 
>> whole new idea in parallel. Would be like a competition to see who wins 
>> becoming the next release (it's what Microsoft has done, and just drop the 
>> one that didn't win).
>>
>> But if they will redo it at least enough to allow some scripting language 
>> to check and modify things triggered by events, that would be a great start 
>> so others can help make normal usage work the way they need, sharing the 
>> ideas. Let's make MLO great again
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:48:28 AM UTC-6 daniel wrote:
>>
>>> Mark, That is simply the best description of my MLO usage ever.   I also 
>>> have been around nearly as long.  The 'exact' same thoughts: "Easy to plan 
>>> with, Easy to keep track of everything. Hard to live with on a day to day 
>>> basis"   OMG I'm married to MLO!
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 8:11 PM Mark Levison  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Hienz you’ve just summarized my entire MLO relationship for as long as 
 I’ve used the app. Which apparently dates back 17yrs almost to the day.

 Easy to plan with, Easy to keep track of everything. Hard to live with 
 on a day to day basis, which is why I eventually wind up abandoning it 
 every few years.

 Cheers
 Mark - an early user and former forum admin

 On Friday, 27 May 2022 at 03:06:14 UTC-4 Heinz wrote:

> I have been working with MLO for many years now.
> My thoughts (mainly) about the desktop version.
>
> *I love* MLO for my task planning.
> It is a very versatile planning tool and task organizer.
> I love the flawless synchronization across all my devices. 
> I love the different ways of adding tasks to my inbox (task-by-email, 
> Siri reminders, ...)
>
> *I can live* with MLO for my todo lists.
> I managed to set up a reasonable overview about my upcoming tasks, 
> using workspaces, views, filters and sorting.
> My standard view "My Day" shows technically all I need, but it is 
> neither a nice nor a motivating user interface. 
> A more attractive wrapping around a list of undone tasks wouldn't hurt 
> :-)
>
> *I am lost* with MLO when "Doing" things.
> For the tasks I have to do on my computer I would wish MLO could 
> support me more in focusing at the current task.
> Maybe the next evolution step of the "Zoom" function?
> My idea would be something like an always-on-top vertical task 
> bar/window, showing 
>
>- the task I am working on 
>- the time I have been spending on this task including an alarm  
>(pomodoro technique) 
>- a plain notes field for quickly putting down ideas, next steps 
>or links without diverting my focus to a separate tool.
>
> Today I try to bridge this gap by using a desktop notes program in 
> parallel, but I have to copy my notes back and forth to MLO.
>
> blandoca...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 26. Mai 2022 um 17:23:08 
> UTC+2:
>
>>
>> The only thing that i miss in MLO is a 

Re: [MLO] MLO-Win v6 Ideas...

[Brandon Welch]

My top three features for a new Windows version:

   1. Dark Mode...been waiting forever for this
   2. Past date task completionwould like to be able to mark something 
   as completed yesterday, or some other past day, especially as it relates to 
   auto-generation of recurring tasks that regenerate on completion. A lot of 
   times I don't mark the task as completed right away, and then it 
   regenerates to the wrong day, and I have to move it manually.
   3. Tab Customization...beyond different icons and text, I'd like the 
   option of having workspace tabs in different colors or being able to make 
   the text bold, to make the more frequently used ones stand out


On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 8:00:23 AM UTC-7 Dwight wrote:

> Scripts would be amazing, especially if they could be triggered by a 
> condition in the data as well as by an action. For example, if this task 
> goes more than one week overdue, send an email to Joe with a copy to me.
>
> Alternative, build an API and attach an external scripting app like ifttt
>
> On May 11, 2022 09:58:27 Stéph  wrote:
>
>> Yes, wouldn't that be great! Scripts triggered by actions (I create a new 
>> item, it automatically sets the start date to "today" and the due date to 
>> the same as the nearest sibling...).
>>
>> On Monday, 9 May 2022 at 22:38:04 UTC+1 kunk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I gotta' agree with Jeff...  Strong scripting abilities would be 
>>> amazing!  And yes, it would take care of many future feature requests, 
>>> because advanced forum users could help people write custom scripts, 
>>> add-ons, or whatnot. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 10:40:36 AM UTC-7 imajeff wrote:
>>>
 I see frequent suggestions which would be very practical if we first 
 had the most important feature of all:
 We need scripting!

 It is related to the suggestion MLO needs an API, and the bottom line 
 is the longer you keep adding extra code to have more and more features, 
 the more bloat, slow-down, and unnecessary complications I have to deal 
 with even if I don't need any of those new features.
 The more you keep changing in features without rewriting as an 
 API-friendly and scriptable tool, the more wasteful work has been done for 
 nothing because if you ever do finally make it all scriptable, those 
 should 
 now be done differently instead of integrated in the base application, so 
 someone has to rewrite all of them to be reasonable.

 The advantage of scripting is more than one might think because any 
 event can be a hook to run script in any context and once people can add 
 features then everyone could have the same feature but not if they don't 
 need that one. Then another could take the same feature idea and make it 
 work better for different circumstances with less effort.

 The only problem with adding scripting or at least the API interface to 
 allow scripting is if you don't properly implement to be efficient and 
 capable but there should be many examples to learn from in opensource 
 communities.

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