Re: [MLO] MLOBETA-58 FR: customisable behaviour of project status and waterfall propagation if inactive
I wouldn't be that categorical. In order not to impact too much on other users, I think that MLO could introduce this behaviour by adding a setting/user preference. On 05 Feb 2014, at 13:59, JensFF zszd3...@gmail.com wrote: I'm also missing this feature since the beginning. I also prefer to inherit prject status like it's done with start/end date. As long as I don't change it for a single task it's always like the top level project. So it's not only suspending a project. If I set a top level project to completed all sub projects (and tasks) shall be completed to. Additional I#d like to change the project status via context menu directly in the view. Jens Am Sonntag, 20. Oktober 2013 13:04:20 UTC+2 schrieb kitus: Triggered by the moderator of this feature request in Jira, I need to reach some sort of consensus if I want the moderator to let this request make it to the next phase, which, btw, does not assure it may be ever implemented... Two requests that are very related to one another. First: There has been discussion in the past about whether or not current behaviour of MLO makes sense when it comes to allowing suspended projects to hold active actions. My opinion is that generally speaking I would say NO, but I accept that in specific cases you may want to start doing something towards project completion despite you may want to consider that specific project as suspended or not started. But, again, generally speaking my opinion is NO, and thus I would suggest either a check-box on the task options pane or a general setting in the menu. Please, allow MLO to adapt itself to user needs with regard to this. Second: I would like to also get your attention to something related. Context inheriting is a feature that I use a lot. I have placeholders for calls, agnedas, etc., and when I drop a an item into that placeholder, I like to know that I inherits all the attributes from the parten. I have a placeholder for projects on-hold. I'm currently looking into how I can manage projects and I feel it would be beneficial to be able to configure MLO's behaviour in that project status propagated the changes to the elements that are created within the branch. I'm not saying, however, that when a project is toggled from suspended to in progress, every sub-project hanging in that particular branch toggles its status to in progress. This would only apply to projects marked as Suspended or Not Started, and I would be happy if, at least, I could configure MLO so that those actions do not appear on the to-do view. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mylifeorganized/-txNDi4uKXc/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/6065f09d-96f3-40cb-90a9-81330efcbe00%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [MLO] Re: Advanced Backup
Thanks a lot for your clear explanation Dwight, I appreciate you took the time to answer me. Do you happen to have multiple computers with Dropbox? Do you syncronize your MLO folder using it? On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Dwight Arthur m...@grantsmiths.org wrote: Hi, Kitus. When you are creating a shortcut in Windows (or if you edit an existing shortcut by right-clicking the shortcut icon and select Properties) you will see a field called start in. This controls the local directory for the process started by the shortcut. The local directory is used when the process tries to access a file by specifying only the filename file.typ without an absolute location in the directory tree C:\users\Dwight\Documents\Test\file.typ If the StartIn field contains the address of a directory such as C:\users\Dwight\Documents\Test then Windows will look in the specified directory for files specified without a directory. Careful if there are any special characters, including blanks - if there are any be sure to enclose the whole thing in quotes. Once you have specified the StartIn field, the started process can access subdirectories of the directory you specified (/subdirectory/file.typ) or the parent (../file.typ) grandparent (../../file.typ) sibling directory (../sibling/file.typ) and many others. If nothing is specified in StartIn, then the local directory is initially set to the directory where the target of the shortcut lives. This is typically the directory containing the program that the shortcut will start. -Dwight On Monday, August 5, 2013 5:45:00 AM UTC-4, kitus wrote: Hello, what is windows shortcut property Start in? thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mylifeorganized/w2F787-7xKk/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/87df1864-1e23-47d8-8e3f-f291ffd16c89%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/CAEDdLcrp6jz7kEpOFkfHsQ3c5qD_xhVMNVexYT9MoJfajNk9nw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [MLO] Still no shortcut for toggling project status?
Generally speaking, I agree with you. People often state that something is easy when they actually have no idea what that particular effort really entails. But I do want to clarify something: This whole thread refers to a simple shortcut for toggling project state... I'm sorry but I do think that should be extremely easy. Creating a bug tracking system means a lot of work, but that was not the point here. It is true, however, that not having a system up which enables you to have the right visibility of what users are suggesting or reporting as a bug, may be what is causing the team is not even aware this has been requested many times in the past. I assume the the MLO team tracks bugs using some sort of bug tracking software, because they frequently put out new versions which correct errors. I don't know if they also track feature request using any other software/system different from uservoice. In any case, I think it is healthy to publish what you are working on if it has been previously brought to your attention by some of your fellow users. On the other hand, maybe the team already incorporated this shortcut in the past, but since the help file still refers to MLO v3.6, the only way I can think of figuring out the current state of this request is by posting a question in this forum. On Jul 11, 2013, at 6:06 PM, tc_online2...@yahoo.com wrote: I always wince a little when a user says something like adding a particularly feature should be really, really easy. I've been guilty of doing it, too, but reality is that without knowing the codebase and design, it's not fair to pass that type of judgement. I've worked on *many* things that should have been easy as imagined but that weren't, and vice-versa. Also, there is the issue of resources, prioritization of features, revenue, etc. to consider. Maybe the crew is shorthanded, maybe they are on well-deserved holidays, maybe they are cranking on 'important' features which often are given precedence over quick wins. Yes, it would be really, really nice however to have greater visibility into bug tracking and feature requests in a similar way to many large open source projects are run. Don't know about commercial ones, but should be possible. It is quite a management task though... I don't really like uservoice or whatever is used here, but that all should be a totally different discussion. On Monday, July 8, 2013 1:07:45 AM UTC-7, kitus wrote: I realize my previous comment I wonder if Andrey (or the responsible person) ever gets to read comments like this one. It should be really really easy to add this feature. I think that it is a shame that this kind of quick wins fall on deaf ears for implementing them could make customers really happy with almost no effort. was deleted. I don't think I said anything wrong or unpolately, did I? On Monday, July 8, 2013 10:02:32 AM UTC+2, kitus wrote: That sure is a bug, but I'm not asking for that. I want a keyboard shortcut. I really like MLO because you can do almost everything with the keyboard without the need to reach for the mouse. I'm not interested in right-clicking anywhere. And, of course, there is no way you can confirm Andrey has made a note of our request since no bug tracking/feature request tool has been put in place yet regardless of how many times we have asked for it. On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 6:44:36 PM UTC+1, Lisa S wrote: I agree. It's clearly a bug. On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Chris fugo...@gmail.com wrote: what I'm asking for is not a new feature, rather it is a bug in the way the application does not behave the way the user would expect (user interface failure). -- Lisa Lisa Stroyan, mailto: ...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mylifeorganized/Gs8HR1Jl5Ow/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [MLO] Re: Still no shortcut for toggling project status?
While I agree in that I don't want a full-blown PM system for mainly my chores, remember that I'm mainly asking for a shortcut. I hate having to reach for the mouse for a simple change of project state /Typos by iPohne On 11/07/2013, at 15:02, JimboDimbo pe...@pd1.co wrote: I saw this discussion/request the first time around and it got me thinking what is a Project?. In my mind and your mind it's probably different. If you are a project manager or dealing with projects at work, then a lot of your day is handling fairly complex project stuff. As I thought about MLO and how it's implemented, it is obviously not a project management system. I suspect that there is resistance to adding anything to turn it into a project management system and this request is kind of hinting in that direction. Next it will be enhanced dependencies and Gantt charts, etc. To me, a Project in MLO is simply a Task which needs to be broken down into two or more Tasks and can usefully be tracked as a single entity. This request makes perfect sense, but I don't think I personally want MLO made more complex by adding PM features. This request will not make MLO too complex, but I think a discussion needs to take place on what we want MLO to be and maybe more discussion on what a Project actually is (in MLO terms). Just my thoughts. I have wired myself to the mains ready to be shocked by some serious reaction! P. On Monday, 8 July 2013 09:07:45 UTC+1, kitus wrote: I realize my previous comment I wonder if Andrey (or the responsible person) ever gets to read comments like this one. It should be really really easy to add this feature. I think that it is a shame that this kind of quick wins fall on deaf ears for implementing them could make customers really happy with almost no effort. was deleted. I don't think I said anything wrong or unpolately, did I? On Monday, July 8, 2013 10:02:32 AM UTC+2, kitus wrote: That sure is a bug, but I'm not asking for that. I want a keyboard shortcut. I really like MLO because you can do almost everything with the keyboard without the need to reach for the mouse. I'm not interested in right-clicking anywhere. And, of course, there is no way you can confirm Andrey has made a note of our request since no bug tracking/feature request tool has been put in place yet regardless of how many times we have asked for it. On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 6:44:36 PM UTC+1, Lisa S wrote: I agree. It's clearly a bug. On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Chris fugo...@gmail.com wrote: what I'm asking for is not a new feature, rather it is a bug in the way the application does not behave the way the user would expect (user interface failure). -- Lisa Lisa Stroyan, mailto: ...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mylifeorganized/Gs8HR1Jl5Ow/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [MLO] Re: Revert to default action when dragging items
Solved already. Thanks a lot for taking the time!! :) On 03/02/2013, at 21:56, TerryK terrykr...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe you have inadvertently changed the option. Check in Options Behavior to see if you have mlo set to prompt on drag. On Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:08:55 AM UTC-6, kitus wrote: Hello, for some reason I'm not being prompted about what to do when I drag my actions around. Before I would prompted whether I wanted to preserve tasks contexts, or whether I wanted to inherit them from the new parent. I'm on RC6 right now. Your help would be very much appreciated. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [MLO] Re: MLO's cloud sync management of conflicting data
Hello, I'm no software developer, but I imagine that if the different clients, or sources of information, shared a common clock, and the cloud server checked that clock, the system itself could resolve the conflicts. just my opinion of course. Thanks On Oct 28, 2012, at 2:44 AM, Dwight Arthur m...@grantsmiths.org wrote: I've been thinking long and hard about this and I think I've been coming at it from the wrong angle. I have been studying, when there's a conflict, how can an algorithm resolve it. The better question, I think, is whether the conflict can be avoided. The only way to make a conflict is to update a task on one device and leave that change unsynched for long enough for the user to get to another device and make a conflicting update. If every platform synched soon after a local change and also soon after a remote change has been synched, provided that the sum of the two soons is less than the time it takes to go to a new device and enter a change, then there will be no conflict. (Except in abnormal circumstances such as blackout.) On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:53:50 AM UTC-4, kitus wrote: ... I was wondering, can't the cloudsync handle conflicting data autonomously? why do I have to be prompted when the same action has been updated from different devices? ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/Ust4cQY5HccJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [MLO] MLO's cloud sync management of conflicting data
I said I'm no software developer, but if the app itself checked current clock locally before uploading content, it could attach the current time to the information. That way, assuming all the devices have a valid and reliable time, the cloud itself could figure things out automatically. Thanks On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Trish Putnam trish.put...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think you could assume a common clock, since that would require all the devices to be online at the time of change to access the clock. On Oct 28, 2012 6:12 AM, Marc García Martí marc.garcia.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm no software developer, but I imagine that if the different clients, or sources of information, shared a common clock, and the cloud server checked that clock, the system itself could resolve the conflicts. just my opinion of course. Thanks On Oct 28, 2012, at 2:44 AM, Dwight Arthur m...@grantsmiths.org wrote: I've been thinking long and hard about this and I think I've been coming at it from the wrong angle. I have been studying, when there's a conflict, how can an algorithm resolve it. The better question, I think, is whether the conflict can be avoided. The only way to make a conflict is to update a task on one device and leave that change unsynched for long enough for the user to get to another device and make a conflicting update. If every platform synched soon after a local change and also soon after a remote change has been synched, provided that the sum of the two soons is less than the time it takes to go to a new device and enter a change, then there will be no conflict. (Except in abnormal circumstances such as blackout.) On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:53:50 AM UTC-4, kitus wrote: ... I was wondering, can't the cloudsync handle conflicting data autonomously? why do I have to be prompted when the same action has been updated from different devices? ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/Ust4cQY5HccJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
RE: [MLO] MLO's cloud sync management of conflicting data
Hello Dwight, I can’t speak for certain as I’m not actively using it as my main GTD application, but it seems to me as if Wunderlist, Producteev, or other GTD tools, managed to implement a robust sync. Don’t get me wrong, it’s just a humble opinion from someone that has just taken them for a spin and has not actively used them. I just feel annoying two things: - Manually syncing on all my devices (this is very very annyoing) - Having to spend time on deciding which of the changes is the right one when I sit back on my desktop if I forget to sync I’m afraid I don’t have a clever solution though. Just wanted to share with the group my thoughts on this. Thanks for you response. It sounds pretty reasonable all that you say. Marc De: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] En nom de m...@grantsmiths.org Enviat: dijous, 18 / octubre / 2012 04:56 Per a: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Tema: RE: [MLO] MLO's cloud sync management of conflicting data Hi, Kitus. As you mention, it would be great if sync conflicts could be figured out and resolved by the software. I guess the issue would be, how far this could go. I don’t think it could be 100%. Suppose I update a task correctly on one platform and make a mistaken update on the other. How would the software know which one I meant? The later one would not necessarily be better. There can also be some very complex situations where repeating tasks are involved. For example, on one platform I might have an update made today to a daily task that was due yesterday, while on another platform I have an update made yesterday to a copy of the task due today. Which one is considered more recent? I have worked with several different automated sync mechanisms over the years, and if one happens to resolve the conflicts the way I would have resolved them manually, then I’m happy. But if it picks the wrong version to keep, the user now faces a much more difficult job finding and undoing the erroneous sync before redoing the sync manually. Most of the automated syncs I have worked with have fallen somewhere between annoying and infuriating. I think the worst was Intellisynch. You mention “other tools” that do it – which ones do you think get it really right?? -Dwight From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kitus Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:54 AM To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Subject: [MLO] MLO's cloud sync management of conflicting data Hello, I was wondering, can't the cloudsync handle conflicting data autonomously? why do I have to be prompted when the same action has been updated from different devices? I really don't like having to step off my train of thoughts and think whether A or B is correct. I really think that technology should be able to that for me because other tools already do that. Am I oversimplifying something? thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/-/ukwymTlkkgwJ. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
