[MLO] RE: [ecco_pro] Re: Outliners for Android + Cloud; help with my process

[Richard Collings]

I have yet to start using the Android MLO app seriously so I can't really
comment.  What I would say is that development on all the different
platforms continues at a reasonable pace so it is worth checking back from
time to time.I am going to cross post this to the MLO forum so that your
desire to have a drag and drop capability on the Android platform has some
visibility.  The new Windows version contains a significant upgrade
which allows more than one window to be opened on an outline so that one can
drag and drop between the two windows which is a very major (and much sought
after) improvement.

 

Richard

 

From: ecco_...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ecco_...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of phkiefer
Sent: 17 January 2013 13:58
To: ecco_...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ecco_pro] Re: Outliners for Android + Cloud; help with my process

 

  

Thanks for the suggestion and yes, I have tried MLO, but I can't stand an
"outliner" where you have to switch into some kind of "move" mode before you
can actually begin to outline, i.e. to move items around. Defeats the whole
purpose of outlining for me - in that case, where's the difference to just
editing a text document?

I realize drag and drop outlining may have been hard / impossible to realize
on previous Android versions, but as Memability shows, it can be done very
well as of version 4 and I would expect serious contender to seize that
chance... I hope MLO will be upgraded soon, otherwise it won't be for me.

--- In ecco_...@yahoogroups.com  ,
"Richard Collings" wrote:
>
> Have you looked at My Life Organised. I moved over to using this (from
> Ecco) years ago and find it very useful. It doesn't have everything that I
> would like (eg no calendar) but it is very good for task management with a
> powerful outliner (which supports filtering) with the ability other tabs
> showing different views - a key element of which is a 'To Do' view - which
> picks out leaf tasks and allows you to order them into priority order
based
> either on an automated priority scoring mechanism or by manual drag and
drop
> into priority order.
> 
> 
> 
> It started as a Windows Desktop application but there are now Andriod and
> iPhone apps and a cloud synch mechanism between as many different
platforms
> as you choose. It was originally based on the Getting Things Done
> methodology but it is very flexible and can be used to support a variety
of
> different methodologies - including home grown.
> 
> 
> 
> It has a limited interface to Outlook for diary (I think) but there is
> strong pressure within the user group for a diary view - where you can see
> tasks in a calendar style view.
> 
> 
> 
> Its not perfect but the main thing is that it is being actively developed
by
> a small development team who do listen to the active and supportive user
> group (I have included their email address in this posting)
> 
> 
> 
> More details here: http://www.mylifeorganized.net/
> 
> 
> 
> Richard (no commercial links to MLO - just an enthusiastic user and
ex-Ecco
> user )
> 
> 
> 
> From: ecco_...@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:ecco_...@yahoogroups.com  ] On
Behalf
> Of phkiefer
> Sent: 15 January 2013 19:50
> To: ecco_...@yahoogroups.com  
> Subject: [ecco_pro] Re: Outliners for Android + Cloud; help with my
process
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Memability" looks promising:
> 
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=au.com.ds.ma
> 
> It is the first outlining app I've found that allows reordering and
> pro-/demoting of an item under any other one via drag and drop in the main
> outline list.
> 
> --- In ecco_...@yahoogroups.com   ,
> "laurenceberger" wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > 
> > As a daily (constant!) ECCO user from the very beginning, I appreciate
the
> great info here.
> > 
> > I just got an Android 2.3.4 Gingerbread smartphone (Samsung Nexus S 4G
> Sprint / "Pure Google Experience") and I'm looking for a pretty simple,
> well-supported way to have outlines (not ECCO outlines, it seems, due to
no
> simple sync solution for me) accessible from both Android and from a
Windows
> (7) PC.
> > 
> > I've read some earlier threads here but I'm wondering if anyone has any
> current input or experiences.
> > 
> > My primary interest is in an Android app (or even HTML5 web app) that is
a
> lightweight outliner that syncs both ways between android and Win7 or Web.
> It needn't have all ECCO's other great features. And it would be nice if
it
> integrated with Gmail and Google Calendar. Google Tasks seems great for
this
> use, but I can't believe it supports indented subtasks to arbitrary
levels,
> but does not support expanding collapsing!!! If it did, that would be a
> perfect solution for me, I think, though I haven't used it regularly yet.
> Some other Android outline-related apps I've seen make a bigger deal of
the
> creation of each i

[MLO] RE: [ecco_pro] Re: Outliners for Android + Cloud; help with my process

[Richard Collings]

Have you looked at My Life Organised.I moved over to using this (from
Ecco) years ago and find it very useful.  It doesn't have everything that I
would like (eg no calendar) but it is very good for task management with a
powerful outliner (which supports filtering) with the ability other tabs
showing different views - a key element of which is a 'To Do' view - which
picks out leaf tasks and allows you to order them into priority order based
either on an automated priority scoring mechanism or by manual drag and drop
into priority order.

 

It started as a Windows Desktop application but there are now Andriod and
iPhone apps and a cloud synch mechanism between as many different platforms
as you choose.   It was originally based on the Getting Things Done
methodology but it is very flexible and can be used to support a variety of
different methodologies - including home grown.

 

It has a limited interface to Outlook for diary (I think) but there is
strong pressure within the user group for a diary view - where you can see
tasks in a calendar style view.

 

Its not perfect but the main thing is that it is being actively developed by
a small development team who do listen to the active and supportive user
group (I have included their email address in this posting)

 

More details here:  http://www.mylifeorganized.net/

 

Richard (no commercial links to MLO - just an enthusiastic user and ex-Ecco
user )

 

From: ecco_...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ecco_...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of phkiefer
Sent: 15 January 2013 19:50
To: ecco_...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ecco_pro] Re: Outliners for Android + Cloud; help with my process

 

  

"Memability" looks promising:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=au.com.ds.ma

It is the first outlining app I've found that allows reordering and
pro-/demoting of an item under any other one via drag and drop in the main
outline list.

--- In ecco_...@yahoogroups.com  ,
"laurenceberger" wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> As a daily (constant!) ECCO user from the very beginning, I appreciate the
great info here.
> 
> I just got an Android 2.3.4 Gingerbread smartphone (Samsung Nexus S 4G
Sprint / "Pure Google Experience") and I'm looking for a pretty simple,
well-supported way to have outlines (not ECCO outlines, it seems, due to no
simple sync solution for me) accessible from both Android and from a Windows
(7) PC.
> 
> I've read some earlier threads here but I'm wondering if anyone has any
current input or experiences.
> 
> My primary interest is in an Android app (or even HTML5 web app) that is a
lightweight outliner that syncs both ways between android and Win7 or Web.
It needn't have all ECCO's other great features. And it would be nice if it
integrated with Gmail and Google Calendar. Google Tasks seems great for this
use, but I can't believe it supports indented subtasks to arbitrary levels,
but does not support expanding collapsing!!! If it did, that would be a
perfect solution for me, I think, though I haven't used it regularly yet.
Some other Android outline-related apps I've seen make a bigger deal of the
creation of each item/subitem than ECCO's seemless typing/tabbing; I'd like
that to be as easy as possible. A week ago Google published a Tasks API so
perhaps there will be more apps soon? Does anyone know of anything in the
works?
> 
> I think I'm going to end up with more than one solution and will have to
fracture what I now do all in Ecco in order to allow easy syncing and
integration with other tools. I need to experiment, but perhaps:
> 
> - Google Tasks for day-to-day, transient tasks that benefit from syncing,
Google Tasks integration with both Gmail and Google Calendar.
> 
> - Evernote or some other outline/note app that syncs but supports larger
outlines/more outline levels more easily than Google Tasks, for those
outlines I want to sync but that are too much for Google Tasks. These are
note-taking outlines, small project notes, etc.; not as day to day as a
simple to-do list above.
> 
> - ECCO on Win7 for reference outlines that don't change as much. These are
outlines that are longer-term reference info that I love keeping in ECCO
mainly to use expand/collapse. Maybe I can set up mirror text or PDF files
in Dropbox and periodically manually refresh there from the ECCO outlines so
that the information is available in the cloud too read-only; I'd only
modify them in ECCO.
> 
> I welcome any input/ideas and would be happy to share what I come up with
eventually.
> 
> Thanks for any help, and for all the great posts over the years,
> 
> Larry
>

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