Re: repercussions of reserved words

2003-10-28 Thread Alexander Barkov
  Hi!

Peter Schoenster wrote:
Hi,

I installed an app which used 

option

as a field. It worked fine in version 3.23 on my play box. I then moved
the app to another box (4.0.15) and when I tried to dump it in (mysql -u
x -px database dump_from_other_box) it balked at the use of option. 

I suspected reserved word and such was confirmed on the mysql site.

So I moved the database directory from play box to live box. That
worked. All was well. But I worry.
Then, I went to the mysql site and read some more and saw a reason for
those annoying backticks in phpmyadmin. I see that I could have done the
original dump had I put option in backticks.
So now I'm a bit confused why I should avoid reserved words (other than
to avoid backticks which is enough for me but I'm curious).


MySQL stores field names without backticks in FRM file, so
it doesn't matter if the field otpion was created under 3.23
using word option without backticks, or under 4.0 using option
with  backticks.

Will awful
things happen to me in the future?
As you're going to use option in backticks, no, awful things
should not happen.

Peter






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Filling in data from already existing rows in table

2003-10-28 Thread Adam Clauss
I am parsing a file reading in information and adding it in, one row at a
time, to a table (also storing filename and line number).
Some of the entries in the file will simply consist of nothing more than a
base item value.  For these items, I want to look up this 'base item'
(which should already be in the table) and fill in the missing values from
it.

For example, on my pass through the file, I would have (there are other
values being copied besides name and id, I didn't include them here to
shorten it):
Itemnameid  filename
linenumber  baseitem
A   itema   someid  somefile.txt1
 (blank string - not NULL)
B   somefile.txt5
A

I was thinking of doing some form of UPDATE with a nested select, but this
is on 4.0xx MySQL, which doesn't yet support nested queries.
Any suggestions?
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Re: php temp table question (for mysql)

2003-10-28 Thread Alexander Barkov
Larry Brown wrote:
Does anyone know whether the use of persistent connections with php will
allow a temp table created by a script to linger around and cause a problem
with the next execution of the script when it tries to create the temp table
again? 
You are right. There is a simple workaround though.
You can use IF NOT EXISTS when creating your temp table:
create temporary table if not exists t1 (a int);

Also if it does present a problem with the next script execution
trying to create the temp table again, if I drop the temp table at the end
of the script will I still have problems if the script is run by two client
in tandem?  For instance two people connect, both hit the script at about
the same time.  One script creates the temp table and before it can drop the
table the second script tries to create the table. 
Temporary tables are created under connection scope.
There is no problem for two clients to use temporary
tables with the same names. Physically, these tables
are different. The second client can't see a temporary
table created by the first client.
 Will it see the table
created by the other script?  Again the use of persistent connections would
be a the heart of this I would think.


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Re: Limit Optimization??

2003-10-28 Thread Matt W
Hi,

That's good! :-)

Are you saying that you need to have a WHERE clause on the first ...
LIMIT 150, 20 query? Can you give an example of the full query,
with the WHERE etc.? We'll see which columns can or should be added to
an index.

Also, can you show which indexes are already on the table? The last
lines of SHOW CREATE TABLE table; with the KEY definitions is fine.


Matt


- Original Message -
From: avenger
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: Limit Optimization??


 good job!!
 it short my query time from 30 sec to 0.6 sec.
 IOW,now i can not use the 'where'  'order by' clause in the SELECT .
can i
 need more indexs  ?

 thx Matt.


 Matt W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Hi,
 
  Yes, MySQL stops searching for rows once the LIMIT is satisfied, as
long
  as filesort isn't used for an ORDER BY. But your LIMIT 150, 20
will
  take much longer (assuming filesort isn't used) than, say, LIMIT
1000,
  20. This is because it has to scan over 1.5M rows first. It's not
really
  possible to just start at row 150.
 
  If you're not joining another table or something where it first
needs to
  know how many rows from the table match, you can do something like
this
  with 2 queries in your code. The first just scans the index which is
  much faster than scanning the data file.
 
  SELECT id FROM table ORDER BY id LIMIT 150, 20;
 
  Then take the first and last of those ids and run this query to get
the
  other columns:
 
  SELECT * FROM table WHERE id BETWEEN @low_id AND @high_id ORDER BY
id;
 
 
  Hope that helps.
 
 
  Matt
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: avenger
  Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:57 PM
  Subject: Limit Optimization??
 
 
   Does mysql do any optimization for then one use
  
   `select ... limit x,y`?
  
   For example, I have table with 200 records and want to do page
web
   interface to this table.
  
   When i use `select ... from table limit 150, 20 `, it will
need
  more and
   more times (on my here is more than 60 sec).
  
   well,that is so slowly for the web interface. can any case
make it
   quickly
  
   help,plz. Thx for all


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Re: Limit Optimization??

2003-10-28 Thread avenger
It's my info publsih system

My table structure :
#
# Table structure for table 'article'
#
CREATE TABLE article (
  ArticleID int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
  ClassID int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  Title varchar(100) NOT NULL default '',
  TitleState char(3) default '000',
  Digest text,
  Content mediumtext NOT NULL,
  Author varchar(20) default NULL,
  Today smallint(1) NOT NULL default '0',
  View int(6) NOT NULL default '0',
  Auditing smallint(1) default '0',
  PostUser varchar(20) default NULL,
  PostUserID int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  AuditingUser varchar(20) default NULL,
  AuditingUserID int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  CreatedTime int(11) default NULL,
  Template int(11) default NULL,
  PRIMARY KEY  (ArticleID),
  KEY key1 (ClassID,Auditing,CreatedTime),
  KEY CreatedTime (CreatedTime),
) TYPE=MyISAM ;

My query:  SELECT ArticleID FROM article WHERE ClassID = 101 AND Auditing =
1 ORDER BY CreatedTime DESC LIMIT x , y

I allreday created the key1 and the CreatedTime key. And it's even
slowly now ... :(

Avenger

Matt W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi,

 That's good! :-)

 Are you saying that you need to have a WHERE clause on the first ...
 LIMIT 150, 20 query? Can you give an example of the full query,
 with the WHERE etc.? We'll see which columns can or should be added to
 an index.

 Also, can you show which indexes are already on the table? The last
 lines of SHOW CREATE TABLE table; with the KEY definitions is fine.


 Matt


 - Original Message -
 From: avenger
 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Limit Optimization??


  good job!!
  it short my query time from 30 sec to 0.6 sec.
  IOW,now i can not use the 'where'  'order by' clause in the SELECT .
 can i
  need more indexs  ?
 
  thx Matt.
 
 
  Matt W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Hi,
  
   Yes, MySQL stops searching for rows once the LIMIT is satisfied, as
 long
   as filesort isn't used for an ORDER BY. But your LIMIT 150, 20
 will
   take much longer (assuming filesort isn't used) than, say, LIMIT
 1000,
   20. This is because it has to scan over 1.5M rows first. It's not
 really
   possible to just start at row 150.
  
   If you're not joining another table or something where it first
 needs to
   know how many rows from the table match, you can do something like
 this
   with 2 queries in your code. The first just scans the index which is
   much faster than scanning the data file.
  
   SELECT id FROM table ORDER BY id LIMIT 150, 20;
  
   Then take the first and last of those ids and run this query to get
 the
   other columns:
  
   SELECT * FROM table WHERE id BETWEEN @low_id AND @high_id ORDER BY
 id;
  
  
   Hope that helps.
  
  
   Matt
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: avenger
   Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:57 PM
   Subject: Limit Optimization??
  
  
Does mysql do any optimization for then one use
   
`select ... limit x,y`?
   
For example, I have table with 200 records and want to do page
 web
interface to this table.
   
When i use `select ... from table limit 150, 20 `, it will
 need
   more and
more times (on my here is more than 60 sec).
   
well,that is so slowly for the web interface. can any case
 make it
quickly
   
help,plz. Thx for all




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Re: Limit Optimization??

2003-10-28 Thread Matt W
Hi,

OK, did you just create key1 and CreatedTime? If you didn't have them
before and don't need them, you can remove them and just create this
index for your query (you can definitely replace key1 with this):

ALTER TABLE article
ADD INDEX (ClassID, Auditing, CreatedTime, ArticleID);

And then the query should only use the index for execution. Then you can
of course run the second query to get all columns you want:

SELECT * FROM article WHERE ArticleID IN (Comma seperated list of
ArticleIDs from first query) ORDER BY CreatedTime;


Hope that helps!


Matt


- Original Message -
From: avenger
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: Limit Optimization??


 It's my info publsih system

 My table structure :
 #
 # Table structure for table 'article'
 #
 CREATE TABLE article (
   ArticleID int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
   ClassID int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
   Title varchar(100) NOT NULL default '',
   TitleState char(3) default '000',
   Digest text,
   Content mediumtext NOT NULL,
   Author varchar(20) default NULL,
   Today smallint(1) NOT NULL default '0',
   View int(6) NOT NULL default '0',
   Auditing smallint(1) default '0',
   PostUser varchar(20) default NULL,
   PostUserID int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
   AuditingUser varchar(20) default NULL,
   AuditingUserID int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
   CreatedTime int(11) default NULL,
   Template int(11) default NULL,
   PRIMARY KEY  (ArticleID),
   KEY key1 (ClassID,Auditing,CreatedTime),
   KEY CreatedTime (CreatedTime),
 ) TYPE=MyISAM ;

 My query:  SELECT ArticleID FROM article WHERE ClassID = 101 AND
Auditing =
 1 ORDER BY CreatedTime DESC LIMIT x , y

 I allreday created the key1 and the CreatedTime key. And it's even
 slowly now ... :(

 Avenger

 Matt W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Hi,
 
  That's good! :-)
 
  Are you saying that you need to have a WHERE clause on the first
...
  LIMIT 150, 20 query? Can you give an example of the full query,
  with the WHERE etc.? We'll see which columns can or should be added
to
  an index.
 
  Also, can you show which indexes are already on the table? The last
  lines of SHOW CREATE TABLE table; with the KEY definitions is
fine.
 
 
  Matt
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: avenger
  Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Limit Optimization??
 
 
   good job!!
   it short my query time from 30 sec to 0.6 sec.
   IOW,now i can not use the 'where'  'order by' clause in the
SELECT .
  can i
   need more indexs  ?
  
   thx Matt.
  
  
   Matt W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
   
Yes, MySQL stops searching for rows once the LIMIT is satisfied,
as
  long
as filesort isn't used for an ORDER BY. But your LIMIT 150,
20
  will
take much longer (assuming filesort isn't used) than, say, LIMIT
  1000,
20. This is because it has to scan over 1.5M rows first. It's
not
  really
possible to just start at row 150.
   
If you're not joining another table or something where it first
  needs to
know how many rows from the table match, you can do something
like
  this
with 2 queries in your code. The first just scans the index
which is
much faster than scanning the data file.
   
SELECT id FROM table ORDER BY id LIMIT 150, 20;
   
Then take the first and last of those ids and run this query to
get
  the
other columns:
   
SELECT * FROM table WHERE id BETWEEN @low_id AND @high_id ORDER
BY
  id;
   
   
Hope that helps.
   
   
Matt


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please help out

2003-10-28 Thread Pey Ling
Dear all,

Hi, i have a database called 'admin' and a table called 'user'.

Inside table 'user', there are a lot of fields, i.e: name, email, race, state, and 
etc.  There are totally 10 records.

When I wrote the sql query 'select * from user where race='chinese' and state='US''.  
It shows me more than 1000 results.

Now, how can I save only these 1000++ data into a file in my pc?

Please help out.

Thanks.

best regards,
 
Pey Ling

Re: please help out

2003-10-28 Thread Nitin
Easy, use:'select * INTO OUTFILE full path and file name
FIELDS TERMINATED BY ',' OPTIONALLY ENCLOSED BY ''
LINES TERMINATED BY \n from user where race='chinese' and
state='US'Nitin- Original Message - 
From: Pey Ling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:51 PM
Subject: please help out


Dear all,

Hi, i have a database called 'admin' and a table called 'user'.

Inside table 'user', there are a lot of fields, i.e: name, email, race,
state, and etc.  There are totally 10 records.

When I wrote the sql query 'select * from user where race='chinese' and
state='US''.  It shows me more than 1000 results.

Now, how can I save only these 1000++ data into a file in my pc?

Please help out.

Thanks.

best regards,

Pey Ling



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Log file format?

2003-10-28 Thread Hassan Schroeder
If this is documented anywhere, I sure can't find it, so --

The query log fields are headed: Time, Id, Command, Argument.

What is 'Id'?

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Re: alternate syntax for UNION?

2003-10-28 Thread Victor Spång Arthursson
2003-10-26 kl. 16.56 skrev Victor Spng Arthursson:

Desperately need some way to get around the fact that UNION is not 
possible to use on mysql prior to version 4

Was just about to launch a site when it showed up that the hosting 
provider was running version 3.

Help!
Come on now - don't make me change to postgreSQL ;)

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RE: php temp table question

2003-10-28 Thread Michael McTernan
Hi Larry,

I was wondering a similar thing, but for JDBC using connection pooling.  In
your example you say that 2 people will hit the script at the same time; if
they are using independent connections this should cause no problems since
TEMPORARY tables are local to the connection so don't interfere.

My worry is that when using connection pooling, if I create temporary tables
without dropping them and then return the connection to the pool, if the
connection then gets reused, the temporary table will still exist and cause
problems.  Clearly dropping the temporary table is needed, although I don't
want to give the user in question DROP TABLES priveledge, and there is no
such priveledge just for temporary tables :(  I'm not sure how the database
connection gets 'reset' without being terminated and then reconnecting.

Thanks,

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 27 October 2003 21:44
 To: MySQL List
 Subject: RE: php temp table question


 Thanks, I got the answer from a php developer.  In case anyone is
 wondering,
 according to him the table is dropped at the end of the script execution
 regardless of whether you use persistent connections or not.

 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 4:04 PM
 To: MySQL List
 Subject: php temp table question


 Does anyone know whether the use of persistent connections with php will
 allow a temp table created by a script to linger around and cause
 a problem
 with the next execution of the script when it tries to create the
 temp table
 again?  Also if it does present a problem with the next script execution
 trying to create the temp table again, if I drop the temp table at the end
 of the script will I still have problems if the script is run by
 two client
 in tandem?  For instance two people connect, both hit the script at about
 the same time.  One script creates the temp table and before it
 can drop the
 table the second script tries to create the table.  Will it see the table
 created by the other script?  Again the use of persistent
 connections would
 be a the heart of this I would think.



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Re: alternate syntax for UNION?

2003-10-28 Thread Martijn Tonies
Hi Victor,

  Desperately need some way to get around the fact that UNION is not
  possible to use on mysql prior to version 4
 
  Was just about to launch a site when it showed up that the hosting
  provider was running version 3.
 
  Help!

 Come on now - don't make me change to postgreSQL ;)

:-) ... or Firebird :-)

Anyway, perhaps you can get around it by using a MERGE table?

(do note that my real-life MySQL knowledged is ... well, not a lot)


With regards,

Martijn Tonies
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Re: CREATE FUNCTION problem

2003-10-28 Thread George Chelidze
Matt, Thanks for your reply. It helped me to find out the reason of 
problem. Fortunately the reason was so simple:

my /etc/ld.so.conf file contained path /usr/lib/mysql and I thought 
/sbin/ldconfig would build the cache so mysql will be able to see 
/usr/lib/mysql/ntp2timestamp.so, but it didn't. I have renamed my .so 
file to libntp2timestamp.so and it worked. Seems, ldconfig ignores 
libraries in untrusted directories which do not start with lib prefix. I 
not sure why it is done this way, but oh well...

now it works perfectly. I was sure it should work with 
--with-mysqld-ldflags=-all-static configuration option used and seems I 
was right. Anyway thanks for your time and your help. Really appreciate it

Best Regards,

Matt W wrote:
Hi George,

I think the MySQL-Max RPM is dynamically linked (all -max binaries
actually) if you want to give it a try.
Hope that helps.

Matt

- Original Message -
From: George Chelidze
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 9:18 AM
Subject: CREATE FUNCTION problem


Hello, I have created new udf function which converts time from NTP
format to timestamp. I compile it with the following command:
gcc -Wall -shared -o ntp2timestamp.so ntp2timestamp.cc

with no errors.

Then I copy this file to /usr/local/mysql (libmysql* files are located
here and /etc/ld.so.conf file contains this path as well) and execute
the following under mysql:
CREATE FUNCTION ntp2timestamp RETURNS STRING SONAME
ntp2timestamp.so;

and I get an error:

ERROR 1126: Can't open shared library 'ntp2timestamp.so' (errno: 22
ntp2timestamp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file o)
MySQL is installed from RPM and I have found that it might be
configured with --with-mysqld-ldflags=-all-static instead of
--withmysqld-ldflags=-rdynamic and I dought this is the problem but I
ahve also found the following sentence in manual:
-- cut here --
For mysqld to be able to use UDF functions, you should con gure MySQL
with --withmysqld- ldflags=-rdynamic The reason is that to on many
platforms (including Linux) you can load a dynamic library (with
dlopen()) from a static linked program, which you would get if you are
using --with-mysqld-ldflags=-all-static If you want to Chapter 9:
Extending MySQL 559 use an UDF that needs to access symbols from
mysqld

(like the methaphone example in `sql/udf_example.cc' that uses
default_charset_info), you must link the program with -rdynamic (see
man

dlopen).
-- cut here --
so is it nessesary to configure it
with --with-mysqld-ldflags=-rdynamic?

I'd like it to be installed from RPM rather source code, is there
another workaround? Thanks in advance.
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Re: alternate syntax for UNION?

2003-10-28 Thread Nitin
you can use temporary tables if need to work on the resultset else use two
different queries. I think, that's the only option.

Nitin

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: alternate syntax for UNION?



 2003-10-26 kl. 16.56 skrev Victor Spng Arthursson:

  Desperately need some way to get around the fact that UNION is not
  possible to use on mysql prior to version 4
 
  Was just about to launch a site when it showed up that the hosting
  provider was running version 3.
 
  Help!

 Come on now - don't make me change to postgreSQL ;)

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Re: please help out

2003-10-28 Thread Pey Ling
Hi, how to write this :full path and file name?  can i copy it to my local
pc rather than the server?

best regards,

Pey Ling


From: Nitin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pey Ling [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: please help out


 Easy, use:'select * INTO OUTFILE full path and file name
 FIELDS TERMINATED BY ',' OPTIONALLY ENCLOSED BY ''
 LINES TERMINATED BY \n from user where race='chinese' and
 state='US'Nitin- Original Message - 
 From: Pey Ling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:51 PM
 Subject: please help out


 Dear all,

 Hi, i have a database called 'admin' and a table called 'user'.

 Inside table 'user', there are a lot of fields, i.e: name, email, race,
 state, and etc.  There are totally 10 records.

 When I wrote the sql query 'select * from user where race='chinese' and
 state='US''.  It shows me more than 1000 results.

 Now, how can I save only these 1000++ data into a file in my pc?

 Please help out.

 Thanks.

 best regards,

 Pey Ling



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Re: please help out

2003-10-28 Thread Nitin
no, it'll save it in the data directory of the database only, reason is
mysql doesn't have permission to write to any other directory.

full path and file name could be just file name like data.txt or full
path of that directory like /var/lib/mysql/db_name/data.txt

Nitin

- Original Message - 
From: Pey Ling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nitin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: please help out


 Hi, how to write this :full path and file name?  can i copy it to my
local
 pc rather than the server?

 best regards,

 Pey Ling


 From: Nitin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Pey Ling [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: please help out


  Easy, use:'select * INTO OUTFILE full path and file name
  FIELDS TERMINATED BY ',' OPTIONALLY ENCLOSED BY ''
  LINES TERMINATED BY \n from user where race='chinese' and
  state='US'Nitin- Original Message - 
  From: Pey Ling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:51 PM
  Subject: please help out
 
 
  Dear all,
 
  Hi, i have a database called 'admin' and a table called 'user'.
 
  Inside table 'user', there are a lot of fields, i.e: name, email, race,
  state, and etc.  There are totally 10 records.
 
  When I wrote the sql query 'select * from user where race='chinese' and
  state='US''.  It shows me more than 1000 results.
 
  Now, how can I save only these 1000++ data into a file in my pc?
 
  Please help out.
 
  Thanks.
 
  best regards,
 
  Pey Ling
 
 
 
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RE: please help out

2003-10-28 Thread Tom Horstmann
 Now, how can I save only these 1000++ data into a file in my pc?

Normaly you should get the data into a file with that
something you sent the query to mysql with. What is that
something in your case?

Regards,

TomH

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RE: reproducible error 17

2003-10-28 Thread Guilhem Bichot
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 00:15, Guilhem Bichot wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 22:01, Dathan Vance Pattishall wrote:

 So the conclusion is: unfortunately, the symlink support in MySQL was
 not designed for synonyming, as far as DDL (Data Definition Language -
 CREATE TABLE / DROP TABLE / ALTER TABLE) commands are concerned. It was
 designed with the thought that symlinks are to be used to point to a
 *different* directory (another partition where there is more room, or
 another device to balance disk load). For DDL commands MySQL always
 expects a table to exist only once, i.e. to have only one name. Putting,
 in the database directory, a symlink and the real table means giving 2
 names to one table...
 
 I will add a note about this into our manual soon. I understand this is
 is an inconvenience for you; you will be safe if you always do the DDL
 commands (ALTER TABLE, in your case) on the real table. It's ok to do
 DML commands (INSERT/DELETE/UPDATE/LOADDATA, which fortunately occur
 much more often than ALTER TABLE normally) on both tables indifferently.

Sorry, I should have been more accurate in the last sentence.
It's ok to do DML commands *always* on the real table OR *always* on the
synonym table.
If thread1 uses the real table's name, and thread 2 uses the synonym,
the query cache can be fooled:
- set global query_cache_size=100;
- connection1: select * from tbl_;
- connection2: insert into tbl values(1);
- connection1: select * from tbl_; you don't see the inserted row!
- connection1: flush tables (empties caches); select * from tbl_; you
see the inserted row!

Even if you disable the query cache, I am not sure if it's safe to use
both names; there could be some other fooled caches in MySQL.

Simply put, things go wild when the real name and the synonym are both
used. Which impacts the interest of using synonyms (hum). And FLUSH
TABLES is a remedy.

I'll add this to the manual.

Regards,
Guilhem


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Re: auto_increment with FOREIGN KEY UPDATE CASCADE courses Lost connection to MySQL server

2003-10-28 Thread Victoria Reznichenko
vinita vigine MURUGIAH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 I'm using ver 4.0.12, checked for bugs in ver 
 4.0.12(http://bugs.mysql.com/search.php) but couldn't find this one.

Thanks for report, but I wasn't able to repeat Lost connection error on v4.0.16.
Many bugs were fixed since that time. Upgrade MySQL server to the 4.0.16.

[skip]
 
 CREATE TABLE software (
softwareID   CHAR(20)  NOT NULL,
softwareName   CHAR(100),
softwareVers   CHAR(20),
installedDate   DATE,
softwareSource   BLOB,
softwareNote   BLOB,
localMods   BLOB,
PRIMARY KEY (softwareID)
 ) TYPE=INNODB;
 
 CREATE TABLE software_machineOSs (
softwareID   CHAR(20) NOT NULL,
id   INT(2) unsigned zerofill NOT NULL auto_increment,
osName   CHAR(20),
osRevision   CHAR(20),
INDEX (softwareID),
FOREIGN KEY (softwareID) REFERENCES software (softwareID) ON 
 DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE,
KEY(id),
PRIMARY KEY (softwareID, id)
 ) TYPE=INNODB;
 
 insert into software 
 (softwareID,softwareName,softwareVers,installedDate,softwareSource)
 values (vim-1.1, vim, 1.1, NOW(), www.test.com.au);
 
 insert into software_machineOSs (softwareID,osName,osRevision) values 
 (vim-1.1, sun, 8);
 
 mysql select * from software;
 
 ysql select * from software;
 ++--+--+---+-+--+---+
 | softwareID | softwareName | softwareVers | installedDate | 
 softwareSource  | softwareNote | localMods |
 ++--+--+---+-+--+---+
 | vim-1.1| vim  | 1.1  | 2003-10-28| 
 www.test.com.au | NULL | NULL  |
 ++--+--+---+-+--+---+
 1 row in set (0.00 sec)
 
 mysql select * from software_machineOSs;
 +++++
 | softwareID | id | osName | osRevision |
 +++++
 | vim-1.1| 01 | sun| 8  |
 +++++
 1 row in set (0.00 sec)
 
 mysql update software set softwareID=vi-3 where softwareID=vim-1.1;
 Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec)
 Rows matched: 1  Changed: 1  Warnings: 0
 
 mysql select * from software;
 ++--+--+---+-+--+---+
 | softwareID | softwareName | softwareVers | installedDate | 
 softwareSource  | softwareNote | localMods |
 ++--+--+---+-+--+---+
 | vi-3   | vim  | 1.1  | 2003-10-28| 
 www.test.com.au | NULL | NULL  |
 ++--+--+---+-+--+---+
 1 row in set (0.00 sec)
 
 mysql select * from software_machineOSs;
 ERROR 2013: Lost connection to MySQL server during query
 
 mysql select * from software_machineOSs;
 ERROR 2006: MySQL server has gone away
 No connection. Trying to reconnect...
 Connection id:1
 Current database: dept_db
 
 ERROR 2013: Lost connection to MySQL server during query
 


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bit of help? root@localhost denied

2003-10-28 Thread trogers
Hello,

I've reinstalled my system (Mac OS 10.3 Server).
In trying to get MySQL going again.  I can run mysql_install_db, but I 
can't access the mysql db and I can not set a root user password.
If I try to login: mysql -u root
it says access denied to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If I simply type mysql (no quotes) I get into MySQL, but cannot 
affect the MySQL db.

I seem to remember that perhaps the answer is to chown -R on MySQL's 
data files, but I'm not sure where/which those are!

I have the following:
/var/mysql/ (2 folders are in there 'test' and 'mysql', among a few 
other files -- that must be the mysql db?); I also have 
/usr/share/mysql/ (in here are the .cnf files, e.g., my-huge.cnf, et 
al).  I do not see a folder called data anywhere, or I haven't found 
it.  :-(

HELP, please?

Ted R.

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RE: reproducible error 17

2003-10-28 Thread Guilhem Bichot
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 12:07, Guilhem Bichot wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 00:15, Guilhem Bichot wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 22:01, Dathan Vance Pattishall wrote:
 
  So the conclusion is: unfortunately, the symlink support in MySQL was
  not designed for synonyming, as far as DDL (Data Definition Language -
  CREATE TABLE / DROP TABLE / ALTER TABLE) commands are concerned. It was
  designed with the thought that symlinks are to be used to point to a
  *different* directory (another partition where there is more room, or
  another device to balance disk load). For DDL commands MySQL always
  expects a table to exist only once, i.e. to have only one name. Putting,
  in the database directory, a symlink and the real table means giving 2
  names to one table...
  
  I will add a note about this into our manual soon. I understand this is
  is an inconvenience for you; you will be safe if you always do the DDL
  commands (ALTER TABLE, in your case) on the real table. It's ok to do
  DML commands (INSERT/DELETE/UPDATE/LOADDATA, which fortunately occur
  much more often than ALTER TABLE normally) on both tables indifferently.
 
 Sorry, I should have been more accurate in the last sentence.
 It's ok to do DML commands *always* on the real table OR *always* on the
 synonym table.
 If thread1 uses the real table's name, and thread 2 uses the synonym,
 the query cache can be fooled:
 - set global query_cache_size=100;
 - connection1: select * from tbl_;
 - connection2: insert into tbl values(1);
 - connection1: select * from tbl_; you don't see the inserted row!
 - connection1: flush tables (empties caches); select * from tbl_; you
 see the inserted row!
 
 Even if you disable the query cache, I am not sure if it's safe to use
 both names; there could be some other fooled caches in MySQL.
 
 Simply put, things go wild when the real name and the synonym are both
 used. Which impacts the interest of using synonyms (hum). And FLUSH
 TABLES is a remedy.
 
 I'll add this to the manual.

Added. You should be able to see it in our online manual www.mysql.com/doc
(end of section Using symbolic links) in the next hours.


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Re: DROP TEMORARY TABLE

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Buehler
TEMPORARY TABLES are suppose to work this way.  They are only there during 
a connection and then dropped when the connection to the database is 
closed. One thing they are great for is when you have temporary information 
that needs to be kept and worked with.  One of my programs has to pull 
things from other tables and I put them into a temporary table where I can 
do things with this information easier than I could by putting them into 
variables.  It makes sorts much easier and the information is only used to 
generate the pages that a client is viewing.  Instead of having a table for 
every client that has to be deleted afterwards, I use a temporary 
table.  You also don't have to have the table be a different name for each 
client that is connecting because only the connection that created it can 
see it.  So if 5 people access my page at the same time and each have thier 
own population table, it is not shared so the information can/will be 
different for each of them.
Before I started using temporary tables, I would have my script come up 
with a random name for the table.  Problem was that if the client killed 
the connection before the table could be dropped, it would stay in the 
database until I manually dropped it.  In my opinion, this was the biggest 
benefit of TEMPORARY TABLES.

Steve

At 02:58 PM 10/26/2003, you wrote:
Hi there,

I'm trying to restrict the access that a Tomcat server has to mysql
4.0.15-standard-log database server.  Unfortunately some of the queries use
temporary tables, so I've had to GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES to the user.
However, since the server is using connection pooling, it also DROPS the
temporary tables after the queries have completed.
I'd really like to be able to GRANT DROP TEMPORARY TABLES, but this doesn't
seem to exist, so I've got to GRANT DROP - which feels a less safe to me :(
Is there a better way of doing this that someone has found before, or is
there a way to grant DROPS of the temporary table?
Many Thanks,

Mike



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Re: php temp table question

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Buehler
At 03:04 PM 10/27/2003, you wrote:
Does anyone know whether the use of persistent connections with php will
allow a temp table created by a script to linger around and cause a problem
with the next execution of the script when it tries to create the temp table
again?
It won't.  If the client looses its connection, the temp table will disappear.

  Also if it does present a problem with the next script execution
trying to create the temp table again, if I drop the temp table at the end
of the script will I still have problems if the script is run by two client
in tandem?
It will drop itself if the client looses their connection.  You can have 
many people using a temporary table called problems and the table will be 
different for each client.  It is only used for that connection and can NOT 
be shared by other clients.  Each has their own.

  For instance two people connect, both hit the script at about
the same time.  One script creates the temp table and before it can drop the
table the second script tries to create the table.  Will it see the table
created by the other script?
Neither peoples connection will ever see the others temporary table and so 
both people will have the same name for a temporary table, but they would 
have their own, not a shared table like a permanent one that is in the 
database.

  Again the use of persistent connections would
be a the heart of this I would think.


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Re: Can't connect to MySQL server on '[server]' (10061) - unix tcp/ip sockets

2003-10-28 Thread Victoria Reznichenko
Ben Darlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've recently set up a new linux box and installed MySQL 4 (for the
 record, Knoppix/Debian and the 'unstable' MySQL 4 package). I've had no
 problems connecting using phpMyAdmin, but when I try to connect remotely
 using MySQL Control Center or SQLyog (from Windows) I get the same error
 (near enough) from both:
 
 SQLyog:
 
---
SQLyog
---
Error No. 2003
Can't connect to MySQL server on '[server]' (10061)
---
 
 MySQL Control Center:
 
[server] ERROR 2003: Can't connect to MySQL server on '[server]'
 (10061)
 
 Searching through the mysql.com documentation led me to
 http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Can_not_connect_to_server.html, which talks
 about unix and tcp/ip sockets. Running mysqladmin version gives me the
 following output:
 
mysqladmin  Ver 8.40 Distrib 4.0.13, for pc-linux-gnu on i686
Copyright (C) 2000 MySQL AB  MySQL Finland AB  TCX DataKonsult
 AB
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free
 software,
and you are welcome to modify and redistribute it under the GPL
 license

Server version  4.0.13-log
Protocol version10
Connection  Localhost via UNIX socket
UNIX socket /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
Uptime: 2 hours 6 min 24 sec

Threads: 3  Questions: 450  Slow queries: 0  Opens: 16  
Flush tables: 1  Open tables: 5  Queries per second avg: 0.059
 
 Since the documentation (I forget where) showed the version output
 showing the tcp port the server was running on (and mine doesn't), I am
 led to believe the server isn't running on a tcp/ip socket. From what I
 can tell though, my.cnf does have the necessary lines for doing this -
 port=3306 (as per default) is in there, uncommented-out.
 
 Can anyone suggest what I might need to change in my configuration to
 enable tcp/ip connections? All the search results I've seen so far
 appear only to relate to people running MySQL (server) under windows...
 

Did you run MySQL server with --skip-networking option?


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RE: DROP TEMORARY TABLE

2003-10-28 Thread Michael McTernan
Hi Steve,

Thanks for your reply.  I agree that TEMPORARY TABLES are really great, and
I'm using them in a similar way to your description, and I think I
understand their purpose.

My problem, that so far no one has been able to answer, is that I'm using
connection pooling with the Tomcat server.  As far as I understand, this
means that you don't create a connection to the server to do some processing
then close it.  Instead you get a connection from a pool, use it, then
return it to the pool, and all connections appear as the same user to MySQL
(i.e. same user, password and host).

So my worry is this scenario:

TransactionA gets connection A from the pool.
TransactionA creates a temporary table for some query.
TransactionA is done, and returns the connection to the pool.
TransactionB gets a connection from the pool, which just so happens to be
connection A.
TransactionB tries to create a temporary table with the same name as the one
that already exists.
** BANG!! **

TransactionA and TransactionB were trying to use the same temporary table on
the same connection.  This is why I think there should be a DROP TEMPORARY
TABLE priveledge so that I can let the Tomcat server drop the temporary
tables, but without having to give it DROP TABLE priveledge which is a lot
more worrying.

Note I'm cross posting this into the Java list too, incase I'm wrong about
my understanding of pooling and someone there can correct me :)

Many Thanks,

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Buehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 28 October 2003 11:37
 To: Michael McTernan; mysql
 Subject: Re: DROP TEMORARY TABLE


 TEMPORARY TABLES are suppose to work this way.  They are only
 there during
 a connection and then dropped when the connection to the database is
 closed. One thing they are great for is when you have temporary
 information
 that needs to be kept and worked with.  One of my programs has to pull
 things from other tables and I put them into a temporary table
 where I can
 do things with this information easier than I could by putting them into
 variables.  It makes sorts much easier and the information is
 only used to
 generate the pages that a client is viewing.  Instead of having a
 table for
 every client that has to be deleted afterwards, I use a temporary
 table.  You also don't have to have the table be a different name
 for each
 client that is connecting because only the connection that created it can
 see it.  So if 5 people access my page at the same time and each
 have thier
 own population table, it is not shared so the information can/will be
 different for each of them.
 Before I started using temporary tables, I would have my script come up
 with a random name for the table.  Problem was that if the client killed
 the connection before the table could be dropped, it would stay in the
 database until I manually dropped it.  In my opinion, this was
 the biggest
 benefit of TEMPORARY TABLES.

 Steve

 At 02:58 PM 10/26/2003, you wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I'm trying to restrict the access that a Tomcat server has to mysql
 4.0.15-standard-log database server.  Unfortunately some of the
 queries use
 temporary tables, so I've had to GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES
 to the user.
 
 However, since the server is using connection pooling, it also DROPS the
 temporary tables after the queries have completed.
 
 I'd really like to be able to GRANT DROP TEMPORARY TABLES, but
 this doesn't
 seem to exist, so I've got to GRANT DROP - which feels a less
 safe to me :(
 
 Is there a better way of doing this that someone has found before, or is
 there a way to grant DROPS of the temporary table?
 
 Many Thanks,
 
 Mike
 
 
 
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Re: User and permissions/grants - HELP!

2003-10-28 Thread Patrik Fimml

 i dont think there's any privilege called ALL PRIVILEGES. You need to say
 just ALL, like:

 GRANT ALL ON *.* TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] IDENTIFIED BY
 '12345678' WITH GRANT OPTION;
 GRANT ALL ON *.* TO newuser@% IDENTIFIED BY '12345678' WITH
 GRANT OPTION;

Maybe you should read the documentation before saying such nonsense?
There's no ALL, but of course the ALL PRIVILEGES.


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Re: bit of help? root@localhost denied

2003-10-28 Thread Victoria Reznichenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've reinstalled my system (Mac OS 10.3 Server).
 In trying to get MySQL going again.  I can run mysql_install_db, but I 
 can't access the mysql db and I can not set a root user password.
 If I try to login: mysql -u root
 it says access denied to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Do you use old MySQL data dir with old privilege tables? If so, mysql_install_db does 
nothing and you should use old root password.

 
 If I simply type mysql (no quotes) I get into MySQL, but cannot 
 affect the MySQL db.
 
 I seem to remember that perhaps the answer is to chown -R on MySQL's 
 data files, but I'm not sure where/which those are!
 
 I have the following:
 /var/mysql/ (2 folders are in there 'test' and 'mysql', among a few 
 other files -- that must be the mysql db?); I also have 
 /usr/share/mysql/ (in here are the .cnf files, e.g., my-huge.cnf, et 
 al).  I do not see a folder called data anywhere, or I haven't found 
 it.  :-(


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RE: DROP TEMORARY TABLE

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Buehler
As far as I know, you aren't going to have a problem.  But I am not 
familiar with connection pooling with Tomcat, so I can't say for sure on 
this subject.  You might just have to do some testing to see if they share 
the temp table or not.

Steve

At 05:51 AM 10/28/2003, you wrote:
Hi Steve,

Thanks for your reply.  I agree that TEMPORARY TABLES are really great, and
I'm using them in a similar way to your description, and I think I
understand their purpose.
My problem, that so far no one has been able to answer, is that I'm using
connection pooling with the Tomcat server.  As far as I understand, this
means that you don't create a connection to the server to do some processing
then close it.  Instead you get a connection from a pool, use it, then
return it to the pool, and all connections appear as the same user to MySQL
(i.e. same user, password and host).
So my worry is this scenario:

TransactionA gets connection A from the pool.
TransactionA creates a temporary table for some query.
TransactionA is done, and returns the connection to the pool.
TransactionB gets a connection from the pool, which just so happens to be
connection A.
TransactionB tries to create a temporary table with the same name as the one
that already exists.
** BANG!! **
TransactionA and TransactionB were trying to use the same temporary table on
the same connection.  This is why I think there should be a DROP TEMPORARY
TABLE priveledge so that I can let the Tomcat server drop the temporary
tables, but without having to give it DROP TABLE priveledge which is a lot
more worrying.
Note I'm cross posting this into the Java list too, incase I'm wrong about
my understanding of pooling and someone there can correct me :)
Many Thanks,

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Buehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 28 October 2003 11:37
 To: Michael McTernan; mysql
 Subject: Re: DROP TEMORARY TABLE


 TEMPORARY TABLES are suppose to work this way.  They are only
 there during
 a connection and then dropped when the connection to the database is
 closed. One thing they are great for is when you have temporary
 information
 that needs to be kept and worked with.  One of my programs has to pull
 things from other tables and I put them into a temporary table
 where I can
 do things with this information easier than I could by putting them into
 variables.  It makes sorts much easier and the information is
 only used to
 generate the pages that a client is viewing.  Instead of having a
 table for
 every client that has to be deleted afterwards, I use a temporary
 table.  You also don't have to have the table be a different name
 for each
 client that is connecting because only the connection that created it can
 see it.  So if 5 people access my page at the same time and each
 have thier
 own population table, it is not shared so the information can/will be
 different for each of them.
 Before I started using temporary tables, I would have my script come up
 with a random name for the table.  Problem was that if the client killed
 the connection before the table could be dropped, it would stay in the
 database until I manually dropped it.  In my opinion, this was
 the biggest
 benefit of TEMPORARY TABLES.

 Steve

 At 02:58 PM 10/26/2003, you wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I'm trying to restrict the access that a Tomcat server has to mysql
 4.0.15-standard-log database server.  Unfortunately some of the
 queries use
 temporary tables, so I've had to GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES
 to the user.
 
 However, since the server is using connection pooling, it also DROPS the
 temporary tables after the queries have completed.
 
 I'd really like to be able to GRANT DROP TEMPORARY TABLES, but
 this doesn't
 seem to exist, so I've got to GRANT DROP - which feels a less
 safe to me :(
 
 Is there a better way of doing this that someone has found before, or is
 there a way to grant DROPS of the temporary table?
 
 Many Thanks,
 
 Mike
 
 
 
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Mysql 4 problem, more than max_user_connections

2003-10-28 Thread Henrik Skotth
Hello all,

We recently upgraded from mysql 3.23 to 4.0 just a week ago. It all went
very well, and the performance gains have been simply incredible!
But now the server has started to act strangely. Every now and then,
usually every few days, the server starts to refuse connections, saying
that there is already more than max_user_connections, but there is really
only one or two active connections and our max_user_connections is 300. I
have to take down and restart the server to solve the problem.

Does anyone know of any solution to this?

Regards,
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Re: User and permissions/grants - HELP!

2003-10-28 Thread Nitin
I accept, that i was wrong, but you need to have a better look too. ALL is
as good as ALL PRIVILEGES.

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From: Patrik Fimml [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nitin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Victoria Reznichenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: User and permissions/grants - HELP!



  i dont think there's any privilege called ALL PRIVILEGES. You need to
say
  just ALL, like:
 
  GRANT ALL ON *.* TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] IDENTIFIED BY
  '12345678' WITH GRANT OPTION;
  GRANT ALL ON *.* TO newuser@% IDENTIFIED BY '12345678' WITH
  GRANT OPTION;

 Maybe you should read the documentation before saying such nonsense?
 There's no ALL, but of course the ALL PRIVILEGES.


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Why do indices crash

2003-10-28 Thread plutoplanet
Hi
can anybody tell me the most common reason WHY an index file get's
corrupted?

I have tested this on differernt versions of MySQL (3.23.37 - 4.1) on Linux
and on Windows.

It happens on tables containing
A MEDIUMTEXT or LONGTEXT column,
A fulltext index on these columns

I am mostly working with a PHP CMS that uses a DHTML component.

Meanwhile I did the following workaround:
As soon as the error occurs, I send REPAIR TABLE TableName USE_FRM and
redo the halted query. This works fine, but is somehow. %§$=

yours

Herwig



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RE: LOAD DATA warnings

2003-10-28 Thread P.Gertman
  mysql LOAD DATA LOCAL INFILE './2003-01/MKR_OCAK.txt' INTO 
 TABLE quantis_mkr;
  Query OK, 271392 rows affected (4 min 2.95 sec)
  Records: 271392  Deleted: 0  Skipped: 0  Warnings: 61
  
  How can I see those warnings? 
  I checked the error log but nothing shows up there.
  
 
  From version 4.1.1 you can use SHOW WARNINGS command:
   http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/SHOW_WARNINGS.html

What about earlier versions? I'm using 4.0.13
Can I see those warnings in 4.0.13?

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Foreigner keys in MySQL?

2003-10-28 Thread Juliana Gubert Ehrensperger
Hello all,
I'm joined to a research project and by now we need to specify a
software to build a database.
Although I don't have so much information about this kind of
software, I've been considered MySQL a good option, as it's an open
source database and this project has been developed in a public
university.
Nevertheless, I received the information that MySQL don't support
relacional functions between tables of the same database. I'm not sure
about this, and I'd like to confirm this information. Does MySQL allow
relacionl functions between tables recognizing foreign keys?
Excuse me for asking a so simple question,

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GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Buehler
Ok.  Someone else was talking about this earlier in the list, but I didn't 
see the answer that I am looking for.  I have just setup a new RedHat 9.0 
server with MySQL 3.23.58.  My program that worked on an older version of 
MySQL doesn't work on this one.  The problem is that the temporary tables 
are not being created.  How can I turn on the GRANT function so that each 
of the users that have databases can create temporary tables in their own 
databases ONLY.  Can this be done with a GLOBAL type of grant?  If so, what 
would be the Grant statement to turn this on?  Or will I have to define 
this each time a user us setup?  If so, what would be the Grant statement 
to turn this on this way?
The docs did show a little about this, but not this specifically (that I 
found) and since I am new to this type of grant, I don't want to screw 
things up.

Thanks
Steve
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RE: Foreigner keys in MySQL?

2003-10-28 Thread Michael McTernan
Hi,

If you mean foreign key constraints, it's available with InnoDb tables under
MySQL, as are atomic transactions (commit and rollback).  I'm using this
with MySQL4.0 and it works a treat :)

Thanks,

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Juliana Gubert Ehrensperger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 28 October 2003 14:50
 To: SQL List
 Subject: Foreigner keys in MySQL?


 Hello all,
 I'm joined to a research project and by now we need to specify a
 software to build a database.
 Although I don't have so much information about this kind of
 software, I've been considered MySQL a good option, as it's an open
 source database and this project has been developed in a public
 university.
 Nevertheless, I received the information that MySQL don't support
 relacional functions between tables of the same database. I'm not sure
 about this, and I'd like to confirm this information. Does MySQL allow
 relacionl functions between tables recognizing foreign keys?
 Excuse me for asking a so simple question,

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 Juliana Gubert Ehrensperger
 Federal Univesity of Santa Catarina
 Brazil
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Re: Foreigner keys in MySQL?

2003-10-28 Thread Peter Brawley
Yes it does.
  - Original Message -
  From: Juliana Gubert Ehrensperger
  To: SQL List
  Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:50 AM
  Subject: Foreigner keys in MySQL?


  Hello all,
  I'm joined to a research project and by now we need to specify a
  software to build a database.
  Although I don't have so much information about this kind of
  software, I've been considered MySQL a good option, as it's an open
  source database and this project has been developed in a public
  university.
  Nevertheless, I received the information that MySQL don't support
  relacional functions between tables of the same database. I'm not sure
  about this, and I'd like to confirm this information. Does MySQL allow
  relacionl functions between tables recognizing foreign keys?
  Excuse me for asking a so simple question,

  --
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  Juliana Gubert Ehrensperger
  Federal Univesity of Santa Catarina
  Brazil
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Unable to Retrieve HTML Form Values(test1.html) from a PHP Page(test1.php)

2003-10-28 Thread Prashant A

Dear Sir

Our Site is running on Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL Combination.

I am unable to retrieve the Values passed from HTML FORM(test1.html) in a PHP 
Page(test1.php)

Is it something to do with the Web Server Settings or any thing else...?

The code is as follows;

Test1.html


html
head

titleTest Page/title
/head

body


form name=form1  method=Post  action=test1.php

input type=text name=text1 value=

input type=submit value=Ok 


/form
/body

/html



Test1.php 


html
head
titleTest Page/title
/head

body
form name=form1


?php
echo $text1;
?

/FORM
/body

/html

After Submitting the form text1.html to text1.php by adding some text in textbox 
text1, i am unable to print the textbox value
text1 in Text1.php page.

Can you help me in this regard asap?

Thanks  Regards,

Prashant  S Akerkar.






RE: GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES

2003-10-28 Thread Steve Buehler
Thank You.  I found out that I had to run mysql_fix_privilege_tables program.

Thanks
Steve
At 08:07 AM 10/28/2003, you wrote:
Hi there,

I guess you are going to have to grant this at the database level,
unfortunately for you.  These privileges are stored in the mysql.db and
mysql.host tables, or can be manipulated using something like the following,
which is a little easier to try out:
GRANT
  CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES
ON my_db.* TO 'user' IDENTIFIED BY 'pass';
I'm doing this and it works fine :)  I guess if you have multiple databases
and users you could make a INSERT INTO ... SELECT statement to manipulate
the mysql tables directly and then do a flush priveledges.
Hope that helps,

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Buehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 28 October 2003 13:51
 To: mysql
 Subject: GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES


 Ok.  Someone else was talking about this earlier in the list, but
 I didn't
 see the answer that I am looking for.  I have just setup a new RedHat 9.0
 server with MySQL 3.23.58.  My program that worked on an older version of
 MySQL doesn't work on this one.  The problem is that the temporary tables
 are not being created.  How can I turn on the GRANT function so that each
 of the users that have databases can create temporary tables in their own
 databases ONLY.  Can this be done with a GLOBAL type of grant?
 If so, what
 would be the Grant statement to turn this on?  Or will I have to define
 this each time a user us setup?  If so, what would be the Grant statement
 to turn this on this way?
 The docs did show a little about this, but not this specifically (that I
 found) and since I am new to this type of grant, I don't want to screw
 things up.

 Thanks
 Steve


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Re: Unable to Retrieve HTML Form Values(test1.html) from a PHP Page(test1.php)

2003-10-28 Thread jeffrey_n_Dyke

you need to use $_POST['test1']

http://www.php.net/register_globals

php, by default has register_globals=off.  for security reasons...so you'll
need to use $_POST, $_GET, $_FILES, $_REQUEST etc.

hth
jeff


   
  
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Dear Sir

Our Site is running on Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL Combination.

I am unable to retrieve the Values passed from HTML FORM(test1.html) in a
PHP Page(test1.php)

Is it something to do with the Web Server Settings or any thing
else...?

The code is as follows;

Test1.html


html
head

titleTest Page/title
/head

body


form name=form1  method=Post  action=test1.php

input type=text name=text1 value=

input type=submit value=Ok 


/form
/body

/html



Test1.php


html
head
titleTest Page/title
/head

body
form name=form1


?php
echo $text1;
?

/FORM
/body

/html

After Submitting the form text1.html to text1.php by adding some text in
textbox text1, i am unable to print the textbox value
text1 in Text1.php page.

Can you help me in this regard asap?

Thanks  Regards,

Prashant  S Akerkar.









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RE: Unable to Retrieve HTML Form Values(test1.html) from a PHP Page(test1.php)

2003-10-28 Thread Barry Byrne


 -Original Message-
 From: Prashant A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Our Site is running on Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL Combination.
 I am unable to retrieve the Values passed from HTML
 FORM(test1.html) in a PHP Page(test1.php)

 Is it something to do with the Web Server Settings or any thing
 else...?

Register Globals are disabled by default since PHP 4.2.0.
You can read more on these at:

http://www.php.net/manual/en/security.registerglobals.php

 ?php
 echo $text1;
 ?

something like this should work:

echo $_POST['text1'];

Of course you should validate that any external variables exist and contain
acceptable values.

if (isset($_POST['text1']) {
// check for valid values, etc.
}

 - Barry


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Re: Unable to Retrieve HTML Form Values(test1.html) from a PHP Page(test1.php)

2003-10-28 Thread Zak Greant
Dear Prashant,

This list is for MySQL questions, rather than PHP questions. Please try 
the PHP general mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

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Re: Foreigner keys in MySQL?

2003-10-28 Thread bluejack
10/28/03 6:50:26 AM, Juliana Gubert Ehrensperger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nevertheless, I received the information that MySQL don't support
relacional functions between tables of the same database. I'm not sure
about this, and I'd like to confirm this information. Does MySQL allow
relacionl functions between tables recognizing foreign keys?
Excuse me for asking a so simple question,

If you are trying to determine whether MySQL is a relational database,
the answer is yes.

If you are trying to determine whether MySQL supports foreign keys, the
answer is yes:  Use table type InnoDB to get enforcement of foreign key
constraints in MySQL. 

If you are trying to determine whether MySQL has a c api equivalent
to Oracle's OCI (sometimes called relational functions), the answer
is yes. See the manual (http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/index.html).

If you need particular relational functions found in some other
database's interface, you may want to check the relevant parts of
MySQL's documentation. MySQL is not the same as Oracle -- it is
its own full-featured, powerful relational database system.

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Insert happens twice

2003-10-28 Thread Erich C. Beyrent
Hey folks,

I am having a dreadful problem here, and I cannot get to the root of it.  It
appears that every time I do an INSERT, the insert happens twice.  I have
spent several days on Google, but with no luck.

Some background - I am using PHP and Smarty on a site. Here is one of the
tables in my database that is having the problem:

CREATE TABLE composers (
ComposerID bigint(20) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment,
ComposerFname varchar(50) default NULL,
ComposerLname varchar(60) default NULL
DiscountID int(11) default NULL,
PRIMARY KEY (ComposerID)
)

So I pass some values in from a form, and I end up with this:

$sql = insert into composers(ComposerFname, ComposerLname) values('',
'Bach');

which then gets executed.  My debug statements indicate that this is only
getting executed once.  However, I end up with two new entries in my
composers table.  I know I can solve this by making the fields unique, but
I'd have to do that for every table in the database, when what I'd really
like to do is find out why the insert is happening twice.

Any ideas?

-Erich-


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RE: Insert happens twice

2003-10-28 Thread Dan Greene
I just recently helped someone else with a similar issue  

is your PHP code (and therefore your insert) getting executed when the form is being 
displayed to the user initially, and then again when the form is submitted?

 -Original Message-
 From: Erich C. Beyrent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Insert happens twice
 
 
 Hey folks,
 
 I am having a dreadful problem here, and I cannot get to the 
 root of it.  It
 appears that every time I do an INSERT, the insert happens 
 twice.  I have
 spent several days on Google, but with no luck.
 
 Some background - I am using PHP and Smarty on a site. Here 
 is one of the
 tables in my database that is having the problem:
 
 CREATE TABLE composers (
 ComposerID bigint(20) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment,
 ComposerFname varchar(50) default NULL,
 ComposerLname varchar(60) default NULL
 DiscountID int(11) default NULL,
 PRIMARY KEY (ComposerID)
 )
 
 So I pass some values in from a form, and I end up with this:
 
 $sql = insert into composers(ComposerFname, ComposerLname) values('',
 'Bach');
 
 which then gets executed.  My debug statements indicate that 
 this is only
 getting executed once.  However, I end up with two new entries in my
 composers table.  I know I can solve this by making the 
 fields unique, but
 I'd have to do that for every table in the database, when 
 what I'd really
 like to do is find out why the insert is happening twice.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 -Erich-
 
 
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Re: Insert happens twice

2003-10-28 Thread Zak Greant
On Tuesday, Oct 28, 2003, at 15:19 Africa/Accra, Erich C. Beyrent wrote:
Hey folks,

I am having a dreadful problem here, and I cannot get to the root of 
it.  It
appears that every time I do an INSERT, the insert happens twice.  I 
have
spent several days on Google, but with no luck.

Some background - I am using PHP and Smarty on a site. Here is one of 
the
tables in my database that is having the problem:
...
$sql = insert into composers(ComposerFname, ComposerLname) values('',
'Bach');
which then gets executed.  My debug statements indicate that this is 
only
getting executed once.  However, I end up with two new entries in my
composers table.  I know I can solve this by making the fields unique, 
but
I'd have to do that for every table in the database, when what I'd 
really
like to do is find out why the insert is happening twice.

Any ideas?
Test the query in the MySQL command line client to see if you 
experience the same behavior outside of PHP.

Cheers!
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RE: I can't figure out what I thought would be a simple query..

2003-10-28 Thread Mike Knox
Okay - I can't figure this out as a single sql statement.

However 

Assuming there aren't likely to be duplicate rows you could do:

create table temp2 (table definition)  select max(endtime), non_unique_id 
temp1
group by non_unique_id;

then you could select a.endtime, a.need_id, b.unique_id
from table temp1 a, temp2 b
where a.endtime=b.endtime
and a.unique_id=b.unique_id;

If there are duplicates I suspect you'd get away with distinct?


Of course I'm sure there's a smarter way!

Rgds

Mike (--traitorous Oracle  Ingres DBA)


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Sent: 27 October 2003 22:30
To: Jim Matzdorff; MySQL List
Subject: RE: I can't figure out what I thought would be a simple query..


I'm interested to see what kind of solution is offered for this as I could
use it myself.  I'm having to do this programatically on an expternal script
that selects distinct non_unique_id and the takes the result and loops
through each one with sort by endtime desc limit 1 and then either do
something with the result during the loop or simply create a seperate temp
table to store them in.  Not the most efficient if there is a way to get it
as a query though.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Matzdorff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 4:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I can't figure out what I thought would be a simple query..


All;

I am having tremendous trouble attempting to do the following query; and any
help would be appreciated.

I am using Mysql 4.0.15a; and I cannot upgrade.

Given the following TEMPORARY table (it's a table I have created from a
whole
host of sources):

table: endtime_table
+-+-+---+
| endtime | need_id | non_unique_id |
+-+-+---+
| 2003-08-17 00:46:59 |   18724 |  6646 |
| 2003-08-17 00:46:59 |   18724 |  6647 |
| 2003-08-17 00:46:59 |   18724 |  6648 |
| 2003-08-17 00:46:59 |   18724 |  6649 |
| 2003-08-17 00:46:59 |   18724 |  6650 |
| 2003-08-17 00:46:59 |   18724 |  6651 |
| 2003-08-17 00:46:59 |   18724 |  6652 |
| 2003-08-17 00:46:59 |   18724 |  6653 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6646 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6647 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6648 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6649 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6650 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6651 |
| 2003-08-22 00:02:10 |   17512 |  6646 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6652 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6653 |
| 2003-08-23 00:11:10 |   14443 |  6650 |


I would like, for each UNIQUE non_unique_id; to get the latest endtime
for that unique ID.  for instance; the result set I am looking for above
would be:

| 2003-08-22 00:02:10 |   17512 |  6646 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6647 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6648 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6649 |
| 2003-08-23 00:11:10 |   14443 |  6650 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6651 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6652 |
| 2003-08-18 00:20:10 |   19143 |  6653 |

as you can see, there are 3 records for 6646 non_unique_id column; but the
latest one is the date 2003-08-22 00:02:10 which has the need_id of
17512.  and so forth.

For the life of me, i can't figure out how to do this.  i've tried various
max(), group_by's, and such, but nothing has worked so far.  either it can't
be done (doubtful) or my brain can't figure it out (probable).  short of
doing something rediculous like invividual selects for each unique
non_unique_id; is there a way i am missing?

I hope?

Thanks,
--jim

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Re: DROP TEMORARY TABLE

2003-10-28 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Michael McTernan wrote:

My problem, that so far no one has been able to answer, is that I'm using
connection pooling with the Tomcat server. 

TransactionA gets connection A from the pool.
TransactionA creates a temporary table for some query.
TransactionA is done, and returns the connection to the pool.
TransactionB gets a connection from the pool, which just so happens to be
connection A.
TransactionB tries to create a temporary table with the same name as the one
that already exists.
** BANG!! **
Yes, you're right -- as long as the container-managed connection is
open, the original TEMPORARY table will persist across the sessions
of different individuals.
I just ran into this issue myself, and so far I've thought of

1) creating a *unique* temporary table using the SESSIONID, in a
   separate DB where the tomcat 'user' has DROP privileges, and use
   a method implementing HttpSessionBindingListener to drop that
   table when the session terminates;
2) just keeping the original ResultSet in memory and manipulating
   it there...
Neither quite as graceful as using a real temporary table, so I'm
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Re: Foreigner keys in MySQL?

2003-10-28 Thread Martijn Tonies

 Nevertheless, I received the information that MySQL don't support
 relacional functions between tables of the same database. I'm not sure
 about this, and I'd like to confirm this information. Does MySQL allow
 relacionl functions between tables recognizing foreign keys?
 Excuse me for asking a so simple question,

 If you are trying to determine whether MySQL is a relational database,
 the answer is yes.

Ehm... the answer is no.

It's getting better, that's for sure.


With regards,

Martijn Tonies
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RE: Foreigner keys in MySQL?

2003-10-28 Thread John Griffin
Hi Martijn,

With respect, I must disagree with your assertion that MySQL is not a relational 
database. I did a Google on definition of a relational database and found a good 
definition at 
http://searchdatabase.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid13_gci212885,00.html. If you 
read this you will find that MySQL fits this definition nicely.

John Griffin

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Foreigner keys in MySQL?



 Nevertheless, I received the information that MySQL don't support
 relacional functions between tables of the same database. I'm not sure
 about this, and I'd like to confirm this information. Does MySQL allow
 relacionl functions between tables recognizing foreign keys?
 Excuse me for asking a so simple question,

 If you are trying to determine whether MySQL is a relational database,
 the answer is yes.

Ehm... the answer is no.

It's getting better, that's for sure.


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Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)

2003-10-28 Thread bluejack
10/28/03 8:11:16 AM, Martijn Tonies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If you are trying to determine whether MySQL is a relational database,
 the answer is yes.

Ehm... the answer is no.

It's getting better, that's for sure.

MySQL may or may not conform to some standard or another, and it may
or may not perform the tasks that you, personally, want it to, but
in fact it *is* a relational database, as opposed to a flat file or
an object database.

I recommended the questioner evaluate her needs against MySQL's
available feature set, because if you are used to Oracle (or some
other robust, commercial relational database) you may be surprised
at some of the differences or absences in MySQL.

But the questioner made it seem as though she was really just
trying to get a feel for the basics scope of MySQL, and in that
context, yes, MySQL is designed to a implement a relational
database model as opposed to some other fundamental type of
database.

So, what's your laundry list of things MySQL should do?

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Re: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)

2003-10-28 Thread jeffrey_n_Dyke

I tend to agree with the past two posts that mysql is in fact relational,
and would like to add that if we are going to make blanket statements that
something IS or IS NOT that we qualify our responses.  personlly i would
like to know why Martijn views it as being a non relational db, without
argument.  If you just say its so, why am is supposed to take that
statement over those that provide a full email of text like bluejack or
John that provided additional information via a link.

Just saying No, to a question like that does not lend to learning only to
confusion.

sorry about the mini rant
jeff






   
 
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10/28/03 8:11:16 AM, Martijn Tonies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If you are trying to determine whether MySQL is a relational database,
 the answer is yes.

Ehm... the answer is no.

It's getting better, that's for sure.

MySQL may or may not conform to some standard or another, and it may
or may not perform the tasks that you, personally, want it to, but
in fact it *is* a relational database, as opposed to a flat file or
an object database.

I recommended the questioner evaluate her needs against MySQL's
available feature set, because if you are used to Oracle (or some
other robust, commercial relational database) you may be surprised
at some of the differences or absences in MySQL.

But the questioner made it seem as though she was really just
trying to get a feel for the basics scope of MySQL, and in that
context, yes, MySQL is designed to a implement a relational
database model as opposed to some other fundamental type of
database.

So, what's your laundry list of things MySQL should do?

--bluejack



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Re: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)

2003-10-28 Thread Martijn Tonies
Hi,

  If you are trying to determine whether MySQL is a relational database,
  the answer is yes.
 
 Ehm... the answer is no.
 
 It's getting better, that's for sure.

 MySQL may or may not conform to some standard or another, and it may
 or may not perform the tasks that you, personally, want it to, but
 in fact it *is* a relational database, as opposed to a flat file or
 an object database.

First of all ... Relational Database Engine - not relational database. :-)
(this may sound like nitpicking to you, but a database is NOT a database
engine)

 I recommended the questioner evaluate her needs against MySQL's
 available feature set, because if you are used to Oracle (or some
 other robust, commercial relational database) you may be surprised
 at some of the differences or absences in MySQL.

You are very right here. I for sure wouldn't buy Oracle if I wouldn't
need it and MySQL is capable of lots of things - no doubt there.

 But the questioner made it seem as though she was really just
 trying to get a feel for the basics scope of MySQL, and in that
 context, yes, MySQL is designed to a implement a relational
 database model as opposed to some other fundamental type of
 database.

 So, what's your laundry list of things MySQL should do?

To become at least a bit relational, a database engine should be
able to enforce integrity. Now, MySQL - by itself - cannot do
that. Yes, InnoDB can do referential integrity - that's a good start,
albeit not enough.

Check constraints, anyone?

Domains, anyone?

Views and updateable views?

And WHY do we have to care about table-types? Isn't this
a physical thingy?

And there's probably more - some of which I don't understand...

As said before - MySQL is very suited for lots and lots of types
of applications and is improving a lot. Heck, that's the reason why
I will be supporting MySQL in Database Workbench :-)

Oh, and John, SearchDatabase or Google isn't always right :-)
http://searchdatabase.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid13_gci212885,00.html
(actually, the SearchDatabase site has a lot of wrong stuff - XML? :-)


With regards,

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Re: Ancestry program

2003-10-28 Thread Rusty Wright
Try doing a web search for the program geneweb.  It's done by someone in
France but there are English versions as well.  It's freeware.  It's a
web based genealogy program and has a built-in database.  No need to
reinvent the wheel.

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Re: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)

2003-10-28 Thread Saqib Ali
a question...

is any DB that complies to the Relational Algebra a Relational DB???

Saqib Ali
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I tend to agree with the past two posts that mysql is in fact relational,
 and would like to add that if we are going to make blanket statements that
 something IS or IS NOT that we qualify our responses.  personlly i would
 like to know why Martijn views it as being a non relational db, without
 argument.  If you just say its so, why am is supposed to take that
 statement over those that provide a full email of text like bluejack or
 John that provided additional information via a link.

 Just saying No, to a question like that does not lend to learning only to
 confusion.

 sorry about the mini rant
 jeff







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Subject:  Is MySQL Relational? (was: 
 Foreigner keys in MySQL?)
   10/28/2003 11:38
   AM






 10/28/03 8:11:16 AM, Martijn Tonies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  If you are trying to determine whether MySQL is a relational database,
  the answer is yes.
 
 Ehm... the answer is no.
 
 It's getting better, that's for sure.

 MySQL may or may not conform to some standard or another, and it may
 or may not perform the tasks that you, personally, want it to, but
 in fact it *is* a relational database, as opposed to a flat file or
 an object database.

 I recommended the questioner evaluate her needs against MySQL's
 available feature set, because if you are used to Oracle (or some
 other robust, commercial relational database) you may be surprised
 at some of the differences or absences in MySQL.

 But the questioner made it seem as though she was really just
 trying to get a feel for the basics scope of MySQL, and in that
 context, yes, MySQL is designed to a implement a relational
 database model as opposed to some other fundamental type of
 database.

 So, what's your laundry list of things MySQL should do?

 --bluejack



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RE: DROP TEMORARY TABLE

2003-10-28 Thread Michael McTernan
Hi there,

Cool, I'm not imagining things :)

 1) creating a *unique* temporary table using the SESSIONID, in a
 separate DB where the tomcat 'user' has DROP privileges, and use
 a method implementing HttpSessionBindingListener to drop that
 table when the session terminates;

I currently drop the temporary table after use, so that the connection gets
'cleaned' up for reuse.  I've used the finally clause of Java to ensure this
gets done, like this:

Connection dbConnection = Pool.getConection();

try
{
/* Do some funky MySQL stuff here, using temp tables x,y,z */

return true;
}
finally
{
dbConnection.prepareStatment(DROP TABLES x,y,z;).executeUpdate;
/* Close method is overridden, so actually returns to the Pool */
dbConnection.close();
}

The problem for me is that I don't like giving the Tomcat user DROP
privilege for security reasons.  Seems like a feature request is needed to
ask for a DROP TEMPORARY TABLE privilege to match the CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE
privilege.

Thanks,

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Hassan Schroeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 28 October 2003 15:54
 To: mysql
 Cc: MySQL Java
 Subject: Re: DROP TEMORARY TABLE


 Michael McTernan wrote:

  My problem, that so far no one has been able to answer, is that
 I'm using
  connection pooling with the Tomcat server.

  TransactionA gets connection A from the pool.
  TransactionA creates a temporary table for some query.
  TransactionA is done, and returns the connection to the pool.
  TransactionB gets a connection from the pool, which just so
 happens to be
  connection A.
  TransactionB tries to create a temporary table with the same
 name as the one
  that already exists.
  ** BANG!! **

 Yes, you're right -- as long as the container-managed connection is
 open, the original TEMPORARY table will persist across the sessions
 of different individuals.

 I just ran into this issue myself, and so far I've thought of

 1) creating a *unique* temporary table using the SESSIONID, in a
 separate DB where the tomcat 'user' has DROP privileges, and use
 a method implementing HttpSessionBindingListener to drop that
 table when the session terminates;

 2) just keeping the original ResultSet in memory and manipulating
 it there...

 Neither quite as graceful as using a real temporary table, so I'm
 also open to other suggestions :-)

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Problem with insert data

2003-10-28 Thread Rafal Kedziorski
hi,

I'm using MySQL 4.0.13 and 4.0.14 (4.0.16 I will test tomorrow). And I have 
problems with this query:

insert into user(class_id, retail_id, mandant_id, language_id, 
user_data_id, nickname, login_name, password, status, creation_date, 
last_login_date) values ('35F7A660096411D89BC0D1907F01', '1234', 2, 1, 
null, null, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 'demo', 8, '2003-10-28 17:31:36', null)

but the same query with space after user

insert into user (class_id, retail_id, mandant_id, language_id, 
user_data_id, nickname, login_name, password, status, creation_date, 
last_login_date) values ('35F7A660096411D89BC0D1907F01', '1234', 2, 1, 
null, null, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 'demo', 8, '2003-10-28 17:31:36', null)

works.

Regards,
Rafal
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Problem with Mail::Sendmail

2003-10-28 Thread Raiko Gonzales
Hello,
perhaps this questions is not directly MySql related but MySql is very 
related with my question. I'm learning Paul Dubois MySql and Perl for the 
web and I have a lot of problems make working the Mail::Sendmail module.

Here's the concerning script :

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# testmail.pl - Send mail using the Mail::Sendmail module
use strict;
use Mail::Sendmail;
my $recipient = [EMAIL PROTECTED];
my $sender = [EMAIL PROTECTED];	#this is replaced with my personal 
email

# Set up hash containing mail message information

my %mail = (
From= $sender,
To  = $recipient,
Subject = I'm sending your mail,
Message = This is the message body.\n
);
sendmail (%mail) or die sendmail failure sending to $mail{To}: $!\n;
exit(0);
When I execute the script I always receive a warning and an error. The 
warning tells that realy is not allowed and I understand this, this is 
because my SMTP server needs authentication, but I'm unable to configure 
Sendmail for this.

The error message is Bad file descriptor and nothing more. This message is 
meanless for me, it doesn't make sense at all.

The sendmail.pm file is configured to have the name of my smtp and pop 
servers, so I don't keept localhost, so I don't need an email server 
installed.

# *** Configuration you may want to change ***
# You probably want to set your SMTP server here (unless you specify it in
# every script), and leave the rest as is. See pod documentation for details
%mailcfg = (
   # List of SMTP servers:
   'smtp'= [ qw(mail.messagingengine.com) ],#was localhost
   #'smtp'= [ qw( mail.mydomain.com ) ], # example
   'from'= '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', # default sender e-mail, used when 
no From header in mail

   'mime'= 1, # use MIME encoding by default

   'retries' = 1, # number of retries on smtp connect failure
   'delay'   = 1, # delay in seconds between retries
   'tz'  = '', # only to override automatic detection
   'port'= 25, # change it if you always use a non-standard port
   'debug'   = 0 # prints stuff to STDERR
);
# ***

Someone can help?

Raikonn

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Re: Problem with Mail::Sendmail

2003-10-28 Thread bluejack
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:13:45 +, Raiko Gonzales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

perhaps this questions is not directly MySql related but MySql is very related with my question. I'm learning Paul Dubois MySql and Perl for the web and I have a lot of problems make working the Mail::Sendmail module.
In fact, your question has absolutely nothing to do with
MySQL, and this is the wrong place to get an answer to
your question.
For problems with sendmail, I recommend:

news://comp.mail.sendmail
(http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8group=comp.mail.sendmail)
-bluejack

 

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Re: Problem with Mail::Sendmail

2003-10-28 Thread Paul DuBois
At 2:13 PM + 10/28/03, Raiko Gonzales wrote:
Hello,
perhaps this questions is not directly MySql related but MySql is 
very related with my question. I'm learning Paul Dubois MySql and 
Perl for the web and I have a lot of problems make working the 
Mail::Sendmail module.

Here's the concerning script :

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# testmail.pl - Send mail using the Mail::Sendmail module
use strict;
use Mail::Sendmail;
my $recipient = [EMAIL PROTECTED];
my $sender = [EMAIL PROTECTED];	#this is replaced with my 
personal email

# Set up hash containing mail message information

my %mail = (
From= $sender,
To  = $recipient,
Subject = I'm sending your mail,
Message = This is the message body.\n
);
sendmail (%mail) or die sendmail failure sending to $mail{To}: $!\n;
exit(0);
When I execute the script I always receive a warning and an error. 
The warning tells that realy is not allowed and I understand this, 
this is because my SMTP server needs authentication, but I'm unable 
to configure Sendmail for this.

The error message is Bad file descriptor and nothing more. This 
message is meanless for me, it doesn't make sense at all.
The Bad file descriptor message is a consequence of the fact that sendmail
isn't allowing you to send mail.  It is not meaningful in itself.
As far as I know Mail::Sendmail does not provide any special authentication
capabilities.  If you cannot configure sendmail to accept mail from your
script, then you may be out of luck and will need to find some other method
of sending mail.
The sendmail.pm file is configured to have the name of my smtp and 
pop servers, so I don't keept localhost, so I don't need an email 
server installed.

# *** Configuration you may want to change ***
# You probably want to set your SMTP server here (unless you specify it in
# every script), and leave the rest as is. See pod documentation for details
%mailcfg = (
   # List of SMTP servers:
   'smtp'= [ qw(mail.messagingengine.com) ],#was localhost
   #'smtp'= [ qw( mail.mydomain.com ) ], # example
   'from'= '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', # default sender e-mail, 
used when no From header in mail

   'mime'= 1, # use MIME encoding by default

   'retries' = 1, # number of retries on smtp connect failure
   'delay'   = 1, # delay in seconds between retries
   'tz'  = '', # only to override automatic detection
   'port'= 25, # change it if you always use a non-standard port
   'debug'   = 0 # prints stuff to STDERR
);
# ***

Someone can help?

Raikonn

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Re: Problem with Mail::Sendmail

2003-10-28 Thread John Nichel
bluejack wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:13:45 +, Raiko Gonzales [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

perhaps this questions is not directly MySql related but MySql is very 
related with my question. I'm learning Paul Dubois MySql and Perl for 
the web and I have a lot of problems make working the Mail::Sendmail 
module.


In fact, your question has absolutely nothing to do with
MySQL, and this is the wrong place to get an answer to
your question.
For problems with sendmail, I recommend:

news://comp.mail.sendmail
(http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8group=comp.mail.sendmail) 

-bluejack

For problems with Sendmail, I usually recomend :

http://www.qmail.org

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Re: auto_increment with FOREIGN KEY UPDATE CASCADE courses Lost connection to MySQL server

2003-10-28 Thread Heikki Tuuri
Vinita,

it is most probably this bug fixed in 4.1.14:


Fixed a bug: if in a FOREIGN KEY with an UPDATE CASCADE clause the parent
column was of a different internal storage length than the child column,
then a cascaded update would make the column length wrong in the child table
and corrupt the child table. Because of MySQL's 'silent column specification
changes' a fixed-length CHAR column can change internally to a VARCHAR and
cause this error.


Below a test run with the latest 4.0 tree.

Best regards,

Heikki Tuuri
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InnoDB Hot Backup - hot backup tool for InnoDB which also backs up MyISAM
tables



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/mysql-4.0/client mysql test
Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MySQL connection id is 1 to server version: 4.0.17-debug

Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer.

mysql CREATE TABLE software (
- softwareID   CHAR(20)  NOT NULL,
- softwareName   CHAR(100),
- softwareVers   CHAR(20),
- installedDate   DATE,
- softwareSource   BLOB,
- softwareNote   BLOB,
- localMods   BLOB,
- PRIMARY KEY (softwareID)
- ) TYPE=INNODB;
Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.04 sec)

mysql
mysql CREATE TABLE software_machineOSs (
- softwareID   CHAR(20) NOT NULL,
- id   INT(2) unsigned zerofill NOT NULL auto_increment,
- osName   CHAR(20),
- osRevision   CHAR(20),
- INDEX (softwareID),
- FOREIGN KEY (softwareID) REFERENCES software (softwareID) ON
- DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE,
- KEY(id),
- PRIMARY KEY (softwareID, id)
- ) TYPE=INNODB;
Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)

mysql select * from software;
Empty set (0.03 sec)

mysql insert into software
- (softwareID,softwareName,softwareVers,installedDate,softwareSource)
- values (vim-1.1, vim, 1.1, NOW(),
- www.test.com.au);
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.01 sec)

mysql
mysql insert into software_machineOSs (softwareID,osName,osRevision) values
- (vim-1.1, sun, 8);
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec)

mysql
mysql select * from software;
++--+--+---+
-+--
+---+
| softwareID | softwareName | softwareVers | installedDate | softwareSource
| s
oftwareNote | localMods |
++--+--+---+
-+--
+---+
| vim-1.1| vim  | 1.1  | 2003-10-28| www.test.com.au
| N
ULL | NULL  |
++--+--+---+
-+--
+---+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

mysql select * from software_machineOSs;
+++++
| softwareID | id | osName | osRevision |
+++++
| vim-1.1| 01 | sun| 8  |
+++++
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

mysql update software set softwareID=vi-3 where
- softwareID=vim-1.1;
Query OK, 1 row affected (1 min 14.30 sec)
Rows matched: 1  Changed: 1  Warnings: 0

mysql select * from software;
++--+--+---+
-+--
+---+
| softwareID | softwareName | softwareVers | installedDate | softwareSource
| s
oftwareNote | localMods |
++--+--+---+
-+--
+---+
| vi-3   | vim  | 1.1  | 2003-10-28| www.test.com.au
| N
ULL | NULL  |
++--+--+---+
-+--
+---+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

mysql select * from software_machineOSs;
+++++
| softwareID | id | osName | osRevision |
+++++
| vi-3   | 01 | sun| 8  |
+++++
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

mysql check table software;
+---+---+--+--+
| Table | Op| Msg_type | Msg_text |
+---+---+--+--+
| test.software | check | status   | OK   |
+---+---+--+--+
1 row in set (0.01 sec)

mysql check table software_machineOSs;
+--+---+--+--+
| Table| Op| Msg_type | Msg_text |
+--+---+--+--+
| test.software_machineOSs | check | status   | OK   |
+--+---+--+--+
1 row in set (0.01 sec)

mysql show create table software;
+--+




RE: Hanging processes in MySQL 3.23.53

2003-10-28 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall
Can you check you keys_used status var. You may have run out of your
key_buffer cache so things might take a much longer amount of time.



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---Original Message-
--From: Dan Goodes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:03 PM
--To: Chris Nolan
--Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--Subject: Re: Hanging processes in MySQL 3.23.53
--
--Using Redhat linux 7.3 with an ext3 FS.
--
--Incidentally, I've just manually restarted mysql (which drops all
--in-progress processes), and it seems that the problem takes a while
to
--show (i.e. there's a period after a restart that things seem to go
along
--fine, then it all comes undone). I also should note that the database
is
--being written to almost-constantly (it's being used as an apache
logger
--process via mod_log_sql).
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-- Which platform are you using? Which FS?
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--  I have a bit of a problem. I'm running 3.23.53 which I've
compiled up
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--  source (because the RPMs are not an option for me).
-- 
--  I have a process that does a fairly large select statement every
10
--  minutes - up until a few days ago it was all find and dandy.
-- 
--  A few days ago I did a massive delete from one of the tables
(getting
--rid
--  of a lot of old records), and since then things have gone awry.
The
--select
--  statement seems to get stuck in the COPY TO tmp table stage,
and
--  starts to back up fairly heavily. Each of the cron-run processes
gets
--to
--  this COPY TO TMP TABLE stage and locks up, which consumes all
--available
--  slots on the server and the whole things comes to a grinding
halt.
-- 
--  I've already run an optimize table on the table, and that got rid
of
--all
--  the empty space freed up by the delete.
-- 
--  Any ideas why, after the massive delete, things have started
slowing
--right
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RE: Ancestry program

2003-10-28 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall
Think of a binary tree.

Parent_id auto increment
Child_id

Details of the famly

The head of the family has a child_id == parent_id

All members of the family have different child_ids but the same
parent_id

Then you can do some really cool recursive fast searches.


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--To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--Subject: Ancestry program
--
--Hi all,
--
--I'm developing a web based ancestry program. The user wants it to be
--static, that means, it isn't for all to use, but his family. Better
to
--say, it'll contain only his family tree.
--
--Now, I cant think of the proper db design, which will help any user
to
--find his or her relationship with any other person in the tree.
Though, I
--can design a simple database, where everything will have to be done
--through queries and scripts, but I want those queries to keep as
simple
--as possible.
--
--Any help will be appreciated, as I'm new to such a problem.
--
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Change of root password

2003-10-28 Thread Parminder Singh Chauhan
After long struggle I (A newbee to linux) was able to setup mysql4.0.16
and I don't know what I have done, I set the root password which I don't
know. Now I can't access the mysql. 
Is there anyway of changing root password.? and how?
I tried to delete the content of /usr/local/mysql/var/mysql and run
mysql_install_db again thinking it will remove the password but no
effect.
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[Re: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)]

2003-10-28 Thread Juliana Gubert Ehrensperger

---BeginMessage---
Well, my database should be able to check some entry data and decide if these
data will be accepted or rejected in a table that records all the received data.
For example: I'll have a table 1 that contains a list of all the equipments that
can send information to the database. The table 2 that records the data sent
should check whether the data is coming from a valid equipment or not. If the
table1 just mention 'machine 1' and 'machine 2', some data coming from 'machine
3' should be rejected.

Juliana

bluejack wrote:

 10/28/03 8:11:16 AM, Martijn Tonies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  If you are trying to determine whether MySQL is a relational database,
  the answer is yes.
 
 Ehm... the answer is no.
 
 It's getting better, that's for sure.

 MySQL may or may not conform to some standard or another, and it may
 or may not perform the tasks that you, personally, want it to, but
 in fact it *is* a relational database, as opposed to a flat file or
 an object database.

 I recommended the questioner evaluate her needs against MySQL's
 available feature set, because if you are used to Oracle (or some
 other robust, commercial relational database) you may be surprised
 at some of the differences or absences in MySQL.

 But the questioner made it seem as though she was really just
 trying to get a feel for the basics scope of MySQL, and in that
 context, yes, MySQL is designed to a implement a relational
 database model as opposed to some other fundamental type of
 database.

 So, what's your laundry list of things MySQL should do?

 --bluejack

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Howto reduce size of MYISAM files after deleting records?

2003-10-28 Thread Iago Sineiro
Hi.

I delete a lot of records of one MyISAM table in MySQL 4.0.16. After that I
execute mysqladmin refresh and now the size of the files of the table is the
same than before.

Is something wrong or is necessary doing something more to reduce the size
of the files?

Thanks in advance.

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RE: Change of root password

2003-10-28 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall
As ROOT on linux goto /etc
Edit my.cnf
Enter skip-grant-tables
Restart the mysql server
Change the password.


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--After long struggle I (A newbee to linux) was able to setup
mysql4.0.16
--and I don't know what I have done, I set the root password which I
don't
--know. Now I can't access the mysql.
--Is there anyway of changing root password.? and how?
--I tried to delete the content of /usr/local/mysql/var/mysql and run
--mysql_install_db again thinking it will remove the password but no
--effect.

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RE: Howto reduce size of MYISAM files after deleting records?

2003-10-28 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall
Shutdown the mysql server
Goto the datadir (/var/lib/mysql)

Goto the db directory
Type
myisamchk -r -S -a *.MYI this will reclaim the bad blocks caused by the
delete.



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--Hi.
--
--I delete a lot of records of one MyISAM table in MySQL 4.0.16. After
that
--I
--execute mysqladmin refresh and now the size of the files of the table
is
--the
--same than before.
--
--Is something wrong or is necessary doing something more to reduce the
--size
--of the files?
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--Thanks in advance.
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RE: Change of root password

2003-10-28 Thread Barry Byrne

 -Original Message-
 From: Parminder Singh Chauhan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 After long struggle I (A newbee to linux) was able to setup mysql4.0.16
 and I don't know what I have done, I set the root password which I don't
 know. Now I can't access the mysql. 
 Is there anyway of changing root password.? and how?

Start mysqld with the --skip-grant-tables option.
Change the password
and then run 'mysqladmin flush-privileges' to make the change take effect.

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RE: Howto reduce size of MYISAM files after deleting records?

2003-10-28 Thread Dan Greene
Is there a way to do this on a live running (i.e. production) server?

 -Original Message-
 From: Dathan Vance Pattishall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:49 PM
 To: 'Iago Sineiro'; 'MySql Mail List'
 Subject: RE: Howto reduce size of MYISAM files after deleting records?
 
 
 Shutdown the mysql server
 Goto the datadir (/var/lib/mysql)
 
 Goto the db directory
 Type
 myisamchk -r -S -a *.MYI this will reclaim the bad blocks 
 caused by the
 delete.
 
 
 
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 --Hi.
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 --I delete a lot of records of one MyISAM table in MySQL 
 4.0.16. After
 that
 --I
 --execute mysqladmin refresh and now the size of the files 
 of the table
 is
 --the
 --same than before.
 --
 --Is something wrong or is necessary doing something more to 
 reduce the
 --size
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 --Thanks in advance.
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RE: Howto reduce size of MYISAM files after deleting records?

2003-10-28 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall
OPTIMIZE TABLE but... it will bring down your server if the table being
optimize requires any sort of traffic. Depending on which mysql version
your using OPTIMIZE TABLE will take longer since you can't allocate more
memory as you can on the command line with myisamchk, unless you restart
the server.

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records?
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-- Shutdown the mysql server
-- Goto the datadir (/var/lib/mysql)
--
-- Goto the db directory
-- Type
-- myisamchk -r -S -a *.MYI this will reclaim the bad blocks
-- caused by the
-- delete.
--
--
--
-- - Dathan Vance Pattishall
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records?
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-- 4.0.16. After
-- that
-- --I
-- --execute mysqladmin refresh and now the size of the files
-- of the table
-- is
-- --the
-- --same than before.
-- --
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RE: Howto reduce size of MYISAM files after deleting records?

2003-10-28 Thread Keith C. Ivey
On 28 Oct 2003 at 13:59, Dan Greene wrote:

 Is there a way to do this on a live running (i.e. production) server?

http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/OPTIMIZE_TABLE.html

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RE: Ancestry program

2003-10-28 Thread Dan Greene
well... when I do db design, I tend to start with the objects of my system.  The one 
that comes to mind in your case is people.  

so you'll need a people table.

well what are the details of a person?
first_name
Last_name
Middle_name1
Middle_name2
Maiden_name
[any other basic bio data]


so you'll need those columns

Well to keep track of each person, each one will need an ID... id's are usually 
numbers, so now you add a:
person_id 
field.  This field would likely have an auto_increment attribute to help number them 
for you

ok... now that we have people, what else do we need?  relationships between them 
well... in terms of human beings, everyone has one biological mother and one 
biological father, so we add in

mother_id
father_id

leaving the values of these as null would be equivalent of being 'unknown'

and we now have, data-wise, a system that can trace biological heritage, can handle 
siblings and half-siblings.

Other ideas for objects:

Marrages 
- this one would be tricky/interesting, as marrages can change over time, and people 
can have multiple marrages (although usually not two at a time, unless bigamy is 
allowed in your user's state/country).  Strictly speaking, marrages are not necessary 
to trace heritage, but are good info...  




 --From: Nitin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 --Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:46 PM
 --To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 --Subject: Ancestry program
 --
 --Hi all,
 --
 --I'm developing a web based ancestry program. The user 
 wants it to be
 --static, that means, it isn't for all to use, but his family. Better
 to
 --say, it'll contain only his family tree.
 --
 --Now, I cant think of the proper db design, which will help any user
 to
 --find his or her relationship with any other person in the tree.
 Though, I
 --can design a simple database, where everything will have to be done
 --through queries and scripts, but I want those queries to keep as
 simple
 --as possible.
 --
 --Any help will be appreciated, as I'm new to such a problem.
 --
 --Thanx in advance
 --Nitin
 
 
 
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Almost beating Rushmore -- was: Really slow query (compared with Visual FoxPro)

2003-10-28 Thread Héctor Villafuerte D.
Hi guys!
Ok, I'm closer to beat Rushmore (VFP optimizer) now!
After some reading about MySQL optimization techniques,
here is the summary of what I've done:
1. Add a compound index to the table
2. Use EXPLAIN to check out the query (with GROUP BY on multiple fields)
3. Create the summary table
And here's the detailed instructions:

mysql alter table traf_oper add index (tel, telefb, rutaentran, 
rutasalien, minutos);
Query OK, 5067215 rows affected (5 min 22.36 sec)
Records: 5067215  Duplicates: 0  Warnings: 0

mysql explain select tel, telefb, rutaentran, rutasalien, sum(minutos) 
from traf_oper group by 1, 2, 3, 4;
++-+---+---+---+--+-+--+-+-+
| id | select_type | table | type  | possible_keys | key  | key_len 
| ref  | rows| Extra   |
++-+---+---+---+--+-+--+-+-+
|  1 | SIMPLE  | traf_oper | index | NULL  | tel  |  45 
| NULL | 5067215 | Using index |
++-+---+---+---+--+-+--+-+-+
1 row in set (0.03 sec)

mysql create table grp_oper select tel, telefb, rutaentran, rutasalien, 
sum(minutos) as minutos from traf_oper group by
1, 2, 3, 4;
Query OK, 3326541 rows affected (33.81 sec)
Records: 3326541  Duplicates: 0  Warnings: 0

Adding the times together it would take MySQL like 6 minutes (VFP does 
it in about 4 minutes).
I still haven't tweaked some server variables (read_rnd_buffer_size, 
sort_buffer_size, max_join_size),
but, as always, I'll keep trying :)
Thanks in advance for your comments and suggestions,
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Re: Foreigner keys in MySQL?

2003-10-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Martijn Tonies wrote:
  Nevertheless, I received the information that MySQL don't support
relacional functions between tables of the same database. I'm not sure
about this, and I'd like to confirm this information. Does MySQL allow
relacionl functions between tables recognizing foreign keys?
  Excuse me for asking a so simple question,
If you are trying to determine whether MySQL is a relational database,
the answer is yes.


Ehm... the answer is no.

ehm ...

i have no clue about DBMS, but ...

http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/What-is.html

MySQL is a relational database management system.
A relational database stores data in separate tables rather than putting
all the data in one big storeroom.[...]
or take a look at

addison-wesley / pearson education
fundamentals of database systems third edition
Ramez Elmasry, Shamkant Navathe
eg.
in the german edition:
chapter 2.5 Klassifikation von DBMS  p.58ff


It's getting better, that's for sure.


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RE: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)

2003-10-28 Thread Saqib Ali
so funtions that can be performed by relation algebra are a subset of the
functions performed by a relational database?

however isn't it required for a relational database to perform all the
functions of relation algebra?


Saqib Ali
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Jon Frisby wrote:

 No.  Codd's rules defining what is a relational database are more
 specific than relational algebra can express.  Essentially the
 requirements to be a relational database are a superset of the
 operations defined by relational algebra.

 -JF

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  a question...
 
  is any DB that complies to the Relational Algebra a
  Relational DB???
 
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  On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   I tend to agree with the past two posts that mysql is in
  fact relational,
   and would like to add that if we are going to make blanket
  statements that
   something IS or IS NOT that we qualify our responses.
  personlly i would
   like to know why Martijn views it as being a non relational
  db, without
   argument.  If you just say its so, why am is supposed to take that
   statement over those that provide a full email of text like
  bluejack or
   John that provided additional information via a link.
  
   Just saying No, to a question like that does not lend to
  learning only to
   confusion.
  
   sorry about the mini rant
   jeff
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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   10/28/03 8:11:16 AM, Martijn Tonies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
If you are trying to determine whether MySQL is a
  relational database,
the answer is yes.
   
   Ehm... the answer is no.
   
   It's getting better, that's for sure.
  
   MySQL may or may not conform to some standard or another, and it may
   or may not perform the tasks that you, personally, want it to, but
   in fact it *is* a relational database, as opposed to a flat file or
   an object database.
  
   I recommended the questioner evaluate her needs against MySQL's
   available feature set, because if you are used to Oracle (or some
   other robust, commercial relational database) you may be surprised
   at some of the differences or absences in MySQL.
  
   But the questioner made it seem as though she was really just
   trying to get a feel for the basics scope of MySQL, and in that
   context, yes, MySQL is designed to a implement a relational
   database model as opposed to some other fundamental type of
   database.
  
   So, what's your laundry list of things MySQL should do?
  
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Re: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)

2003-10-28 Thread bluejack
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:56:54 -0800, Jon Frisby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

MySQL may or may not conform to some standard or another, and it may
or may not perform the tasks that you, personally, want it to, but
in fact it *is* a relational database, as opposed to a flat file or
an object database.
Some standard or another?  You make it sound as if there is no
definitive answer to the question of what constitutes a relational
database.  That is absolutely not true.  We need only look to the
I do enjoy these sorts of discussion, because they help me improve
my own understanding of both the philosophies and the technologies
in question. So thank you for your lengthy and informative reply.
individual who created the concept of the relational database: E.F.
Codd.  Since he invented the concept of the relational database (way
back in 1970), his word is definitive as to what constitutes a
relational database and what does not.
It is important to take a deep breath and realize that when someone
asks Is MySQL a Relational Database they are probably *not* asking
whether it comprehensively and successfully implements the inventor's
requirements, however definitive. The probable question is, is it
this *kind* of database (engine) or is it something else?
I think we are all in agreement that MySQL does not perfectly implement
the concept of a relational database, but that its inspiration is the
relational model and not some other model. I think the original
questioner should be clear on that now, as well.
No existing RDBMS is even close to full compliance. Oracle would rate
about 60% compliance. Others are lower except Ingres and FirstSQL which
rate about 65% compliance.
A statement like this pretty much nails the lid of the coffin
down on the value of the inventor's definitive requirements.
I believe in real world applications, rather than platonic
ideals. However fabulous the original idea is, if *nobody*
wants to implement it, then we might as well be talking about
time travel or something. Pure speculation.
By rule #2, MySQL (and most other RDBMSs) have already fallen down:
Any RDBMS that allows you to define a table without a unique key of
some sort fails rule #2.
I actually think this is more controversial than your next example,
because it leaves the power in the hands of the developers. Although
the RDBMS doesn't force the database designer into correct behavior,
it allows it.
Rule #3 is somewhat more controversial.  It requires at least two
different kinds of null.  Codd referred to them as A-mark, and I-mark:
This is a far more interesting point because it is a feature that
would be very useful, and which I have never seen implemented. I
would sooner see RDBMS software implement this than conform to
rule #2.
So basically, MySQL complies with about 5 of the 13 basic requirements
for a relational DB.
And given that the most compliant RDBMS is only hitting two or three
more points, I think we all need to loosen our ties and agree that
while the distinction between 'relational database' in common parlance
and in theory is both important and interesting, MySQL is a relational
database engine.
But thanks for all the links. Great to have these resources.

-bluejack 

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Re: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)

2003-10-28 Thread Heikki Tuuri
Hi!

For decades, people have debated in comp.databases.theory and elsewhere how
a 'relational database' should be defined.

Codd's original 1970 paper sketches the relational algebra as a query
language of a relational database, though Codd is not very precise about
what the query language exactly should be. The paper also mentions integrity
constraints. Relations in the 1970 paper are defined as mathematical sets,
that is, no duplicate rows in tables or any query results are allowed.

Thus, no SQL database is Codd-1970-relational, because SQL allows duplicate
rows.

Codd's 12 rules, from about 1987, demand that a 'relational database' must
satisfy several strict conditions. For example, any view 'theoretically
updateable should be updateable with the data manipulation language'.

No existing database is even close to being Codd-12-relational.

On the other hand, for example, Elmasri and Navathe in their university
textbook define a 'relational database' less strictly, and mention Microsoft
Access and Oracle as examples of an 'RDBMS'.

Thus, MySQL apparently is Elmasri-Navathe-relational, but not
Codd-1970-relational. The same holds for DB2, Oracle, and MS SQL Server.

Best regards,

Heikki Tuuri
Innobase Oy
http://www.innodb.com
Foreign keys, transactions, and row level locking for MySQL
InnoDB Hot Backup - hot backup tool for InnoDB which also backs up MyISAM
tables
Order MySQL technical support from https://order.mysql.com/



- Original Message - 
From: Saqib Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: mailing.database.myodbc
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:10 PM
Subject: RE: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)


 so funtions that can be performed by relation algebra are a subset of the
 functions performed by a relational database?

 however isn't it required for a relational database to perform all the
 functions of relation algebra?


 Saqib Ali
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 On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Jon Frisby wrote:

  No.  Codd's rules defining what is a relational database are more
  specific than relational algebra can express.  Essentially the
  requirements to be a relational database are a superset of the
  operations defined by relational algebra.
 
  -JF
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Saqib Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:47 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)
  
  
   a question...
  
   is any DB that complies to the Relational Algebra a
   Relational DB???
  
   Saqib Ali
   -
   http://validate.sourceforge.net --- XHTML/HTML/DocBook Validator
  
   On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
I tend to agree with the past two posts that mysql is in
   fact relational,
and would like to add that if we are going to make blanket
   statements that
something IS or IS NOT that we qualify our responses.
   personlly i would
like to know why Martijn views it as being a non relational
   db, without
argument.  If you just say its so, why am is supposed to take that
statement over those that provide a full email of text like
   bluejack or
John that provided additional information via a link.
   
Just saying No, to a question like that does not lend to
   learning only to
confusion.
   
sorry about the mini rant
jeff
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  bluejack
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   MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)
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10/28/03 8:11:16 AM, Martijn Tonies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

 If you are trying to determine whether MySQL is a
   relational database,
 the answer is yes.

Ehm... the answer is no.

It's getting better, that's for sure.
   
MySQL may or may not conform to some standard or another, and it may
or may not perform the tasks that you, personally, want it to, but
in fact it *is* a relational database, as opposed to a flat file or
an object database.
   
I recommended the questioner evaluate her needs against MySQL's
available feature set, because if you are used to Oracle (or some
other robust, commercial relational database) you may be surprised
at some of the differences or absences in MySQL.
   
But the questioner made it seem as though she was really just
trying to get a feel for the basics scope of MySQL, and in that
context, yes, MySQL is designed to a implement a relational
database model as opposed to some other fundamental type of
database.
   
So, what's your laundry list of things MySQL should do?
   
--bluejack
   
   
   

RE: Ancestry program

2003-10-28 Thread Brad Teale
It has been a while since I have looked, but I believe the  National
Genealogical Society has a data model for family tree software.  The
following links are to the NGS and GEDCOM is the file format standard.
I think it should be an easy conversion to a database structure.  If you
do something that exports the data, it should probably export in the
GEDCOM format because that is what most software packages will import.

http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/
http://www.gentech.org/ngsgentech/main/Home.asp

GEDCOM seems to be the standard file format:
http://www.gendex.com/gedcom55/55gctoc.htm

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Dan Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:49 PM
To: Nitin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Ancestry program


well... when I do db design, I tend to start with the objects of my system.
The one that comes to mind in your case is people.  

so you'll need a people table.

well what are the details of a person?
first_name
Last_name
Middle_name1
Middle_name2
Maiden_name
[any other basic bio data]


so you'll need those columns

Well to keep track of each person, each one will need an ID... id's are
usually numbers, so now you add a:
person_id 
field.  This field would likely have an auto_increment attribute to help
number them for you

ok... now that we have people, what else do we need?  relationships between
them well... in terms of human beings, everyone has one biological
mother and one biological father, so we add in

mother_id
father_id

leaving the values of these as null would be equivalent of being 'unknown'

and we now have, data-wise, a system that can trace biological heritage, can
handle siblings and half-siblings.

Other ideas for objects:

Marrages 
- this one would be tricky/interesting, as marrages can change over time,
and people can have multiple marrages (although usually not two at a time,
unless bigamy is allowed in your user's state/country).  Strictly speaking,
marrages are not necessary to trace heritage, but are good info...  




 --From: Nitin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 --Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:46 PM
 --To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 --Subject: Ancestry program
 --
 --Hi all,
 --
 --I'm developing a web based ancestry program. The user 
 wants it to be
 --static, that means, it isn't for all to use, but his family. Better
 to
 --say, it'll contain only his family tree.
 --
 --Now, I cant think of the proper db design, which will help any user
 to
 --find his or her relationship with any other person in the tree.
 Though, I
 --can design a simple database, where everything will have to be done
 --through queries and scripts, but I want those queries to keep as
 simple
 --as possible.
 --
 --Any help will be appreciated, as I'm new to such a problem.
 --
 --Thanx in advance
 --Nitin
 
 
 
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RE: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)

2003-10-28 Thread Mike Brando
Begging to differ, no vendor that I'm aware of claims to be compliant with a
paper or textbook. They tend to comply with an adopted standard such as:

ANSI/ISO/IEC 9075-1(through 5):1999
ISO/IEC 9075-1(through 5):1999

Collectively known as SQL:1999. While I'd offer that MySQL *is* a relational
database, (even though I'm very new to the environment); I think there's some
ways to go before MySQL has core compatibility with SQL:1999. That's what's
more important to me, the adoption of accepted standards.

--
Michael Brando
Senior Manager of Engineering
Applied Biosystems
3833 North First Street
San Jose, CA 95134-1701


 -Original Message-
 From: Heikki Tuuri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:29 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)
 
 Hi!
 
 For decades, people have debated in comp.databases.theory and elsewhere how
 a 'relational database' should be defined.
 
 Codd's original 1970 paper sketches the relational algebra as a query
 language of a relational database, though Codd is not very precise about
 what the query language exactly should be. The paper also mentions integrity
 constraints. Relations in the 1970 paper are defined as mathematical sets,
 that is, no duplicate rows in tables or any query results are allowed.
 
 Thus, no SQL database is Codd-1970-relational, because SQL allows duplicate
 rows.
 
 Codd's 12 rules, from about 1987, demand that a 'relational database' must
 satisfy several strict conditions. For example, any view 'theoretically
 updateable should be updateable with the data manipulation language'.
 
 No existing database is even close to being Codd-12-relational.
 
 On the other hand, for example, Elmasri and Navathe in their university
 textbook define a 'relational database' less strictly, and mention Microsoft
 Access and Oracle as examples of an 'RDBMS'.
 
 Thus, MySQL apparently is Elmasri-Navathe-relational, but not
 Codd-1970-relational. The same holds for DB2, Oracle, and MS SQL Server.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Heikki Tuuri
 Innobase Oy
 http://www.innodb.com
 Foreign keys, transactions, and row level locking for MySQL
 InnoDB Hot Backup - hot backup tool for InnoDB which also backs up MyISAM
 tables
 Order MySQL technical support from https://order.mysql.com/
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Saqib Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Newsgroups: mailing.database.myodbc
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:10 PM
 Subject: RE: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)
 
 
  so funtions that can be performed by relation algebra are a subset of the
  functions performed by a relational database?
 
  however isn't it required for a relational database to perform all the
  functions of relation algebra?
 
 
  Saqib Ali
  -
  http://validate.sourceforge.net --- XHTML/HTML/DocBook Validator
 
  On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Jon Frisby wrote:
 
   No.  Codd's rules defining what is a relational database are more
   specific than relational algebra can express.  Essentially the
   requirements to be a relational database are a superset of the
   operations defined by relational algebra.
  
   -JF
  
-Original Message-
From: Saqib Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)
   
   
a question...
   
is any DB that complies to the Relational Algebra a
Relational DB???
   
Saqib Ali
-
http://validate.sourceforge.net --- XHTML/HTML/DocBook Validator
   
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

 I tend to agree with the past two posts that mysql is in
fact relational,
 and would like to add that if we are going to make blanket
statements that
 something IS or IS NOT that we qualify our responses.
personlly i would
 like to know why Martijn views it as being a non relational
db, without
 argument.  If you just say its so, why am is supposed to take that
 statement over those that provide a full email of text like
bluejack or
 John that provided additional information via a link.

 Just saying No, to a question like that does not lend to
learning only to
 confusion.

 sorry about the mini rant
 jeff







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 10/28/03 8:11:16 AM, Martijn Tonies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  If you are trying to determine whether 

mysql 4.0.16/4.0.15a build fails on Mac OS X 10.3

2003-10-28 Thread Gabriel Ricard
source='sort.c' object='sort.o' libtool=no \
depfile='.deps/sort.Po' tmpdepfile='.deps/sort.TPo' \
depmode=gcc3 /bin/sh ../depcomp \
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I./../include -I../include -O3 
-DDBUG_OFF   -c `test -f sort.c || echo './'`sort.c
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -O3 -DDBUG_OFF -o isamchk  
isamchk.o sort.o libnisam.a ../mysys/libmysys.a ../dbug/libdbug.a 
../strings/libmystrings.a -lz -lm
mkdir .libs
gcc -O3 -DDBUG_OFF -o isamchk isamchk.o sort.o  libnisam.a 
../mysys/libmysys.a ../dbug/libdbug.a ../strings/libmystrings.a -lz -lm
ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol _qsort
../mysys/libmysys.a(mf_qsort.o) definition of _qsort in section 
(__TEXT,__text)
/usr/lib/libm.dylib(qsort.So) definition of _qsort
ld: Undefined symbols:
operator delete(void*)
operator new(unsigned long)
make[2]: *** [isamchk] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2

Anyone else encountered this problem yet? This occurs both in Mac OS X 
10.3 client and server. I don't know what changed to make it stop 
compiling, but it worked just fine in the last dev seed of Panther...

If anyone can help figure this out, let me know what to do.

TIA

- Gabriel

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problem with MySQL and latest release of Mac OX X (Panther)

2003-10-28 Thread Anderson, James H [IT]
Much to my surprise and chagrin, I'm having a problem using MySQL after upgrading to 
the latest release of Mac OS X this past weekend. As far as I can tell, the server 
seems to be running, but when I attempt to execute the mysql command it just hangs. 
Any ideas?

Thanks,

jim


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Re: Problem with insert data

2003-10-28 Thread gerald_clark
Rafal Kedziorski wrote:

hi,

I'm using MySQL 4.0.13 and 4.0.14 (4.0.16 I will test tomorrow). And I 
have problems with this query:

insert into user(class_id, retail_id, mandant_id, language_id, 
user_data_id, nickname, login_name, password, status, creation_date, 
last_login_date) values ('35F7A660096411D89BC0D1907F01', '1234', 
2, 1, null, null, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 'demo', 8, '2003-10-28 17:31:36', 
null)
This is incorrect.



but the same query with space after user

insert into user (class_id, retail_id, mandant_id, language_id, 
user_data_id, nickname, login_name, password, status, creation_date, 
last_login_date) values ('35F7A660096411D89BC0D1907F01', '1234', 
2, 1, null, null, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 'demo', 8, '2003-10-28 17:31:36', 
null)

works.
This is corerect.



Regards,
Rafal

user() is a function.

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RE: problem with MySQL and latest release of Mac OX X (Panther)

2003-10-28 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall
Can you post you’re my.cnf options / your query in question / how long
have you seen it hang / what status it is in / and your show status
vars.



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--To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--Subject: problem with MySQL and latest release of Mac OX X (Panther)
--
--Much to my surprise and chagrin, I'm having a problem using MySQL
after
--upgrading to the latest release of Mac OS X this past weekend. As far
as
--I can tell, the server seems to be running, but when I attempt to
execute
--the mysql command it just hangs. Any ideas?
--
--Thanks,
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--jim
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How to define a required field in a table?

2003-10-28 Thread mos
Is it possible to define required fields in a MySQL table?
By that I mean if the row is updated and the field value is still null, the 
update for the row is rejected and an error is produced.

The NOT NULL clause in the table definition simply converts NULL values 
to '' or zero for string and numeric fields. This only makes things worse 
because now it is harder to spot invalid data because the zeroes and '' 
blends in with valid data.

So I need the update to fail so I can keep invalid data (NULL's) out of the 
table. Any idea on how to do this? TIA

Mike



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RE: How to define a required field in a table?

2003-10-28 Thread Kevin Fries
That's not how it works.  The following demonstrates the feature I think
you want.

mysql test
test create table testnull ( X varchar(10) not null );
Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.11 sec)

test insert into testnull values ( null );
ERROR 1048: Column 'X' cannot be null
test

 -Original Message-
 From: mos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:50 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: How to define a required field in a table?
 
 
 Is it possible to define required fields in a MySQL table?
 By that I mean if the row is updated and the field value is 
 still null, the 
 update for the row is rejected and an error is produced.
 
 The NOT NULL clause in the table definition simply converts 
 NULL values 
 to '' or zero for string and numeric fields. This only makes 
 things worse 
 because now it is harder to spot invalid data because the 
 zeroes and '' 
 blends in with valid data.
 
 So I need the update to fail so I can keep invalid data 
 (NULL's) out of the 
 table. Any idea on how to do this? TIA
 
 Mike
 
 
 
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RE: problem with MySQL and latest release of Mac OX X (Panther)

2003-10-28 Thread Anderson, James H [IT]
BTW, nothing's changed in my.cnf...

.my.cnf
---
[client]
host=localhost
user=jim
password=password

No query, I just entered 'mysql sampdb'. It hung indefinitely; I had to kill
the window.
Since I couldn't get into mysql I don't know the value of any variables.


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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:42 PM
To: Anderson, James H [IT]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: problem with MySQL and latest release of Mac OX X (Panther)


Can you post you're my.cnf options / your query in question / how long
have you seen it hang / what status it is in / and your show status
vars.



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  - Sr. Programmer and mySQL DBA for FriendFinder Inc.
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--
--Much to my surprise and chagrin, I'm having a problem using MySQL
after
--upgrading to the latest release of Mac OS X this past weekend. As far
as
--I can tell, the server seems to be running, but when I attempt to
execute
--the mysql command it just hangs. Any ideas?
--
--Thanks,
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Re: How to define a required field in a table?

2003-10-28 Thread bluejack
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:00:02 -0800, Kevin Fries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That's not how it works.  The following demonstrates the feature I think
you want.
mysql test
test create table testnull ( X varchar(10) not null );
Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.11 sec)
test insert into testnull values ( null );
ERROR 1048: Column 'X' cannot be null
test
One other case: If there is a default value on the column,
the default will be inserted instead of NULL.
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Re: How to define a required field in a table?

2003-10-28 Thread mos
At 03:49 PM 10/28/2003, you wrote:
Is it possible to define required fields in a MySQL table?
By that I mean if the row is updated and the field value is still null, 
the update for the row is rejected and an error is produced.

The NOT NULL clause in the table definition simply converts NULL values 
to '' or zero for string and numeric fields. This only makes things worse 
because now it is harder to spot invalid data because the zeroes and '' 
blends in with valid data.

So I need the update to fail so I can keep invalid data (NULL's) out of 
the table. Any idea on how to do this? TIA

Mike

Oops. I should point out that it is the Load Data Infile that is allowing 
the NULL values to be converted to '' or zero. The SQL Insert statement (if 
I had used it) will catch the NULL's and prevent the row with NULL from 
being entered. But not Load Data Infile.

So is there a way to get the Load Data Infile to respect the Not Null 
definitions? TIA

Mike



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Re: Is MySQL Relational? (was: Foreigner keys in MySQL?)

2003-10-28 Thread Peter Brawley
so funtions that can be performed by relation algebra are a subset of the
functions performed by a relational database?

however isn't it required for a relational database to perform all the
functions of relation algebra?

Saqib, there are multiple relational algebras. No db fully implements Codd's
specs. The degree to which a db like MySQL implement's Codd's rules and
algebra is just one arbitrary measure of 'relationality'. We have to decide
which features we want, and which we can do without.

PB



RE: How to define a required field in a table?

2003-10-28 Thread mos
At 04:00 PM 10/28/2003, you wrote:
That's not how it works.  The following demonstrates the feature I think
you want.
mysql test
test create table testnull ( X varchar(10) not null );
Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.11 sec)
test insert into testnull values ( null );
ERROR 1048: Column 'X' cannot be null
test
Kevin,

Yes, that's what I thought too for the longest time. But it doesn't work 
that way when using Load Data Infile. This command will actually convert 
NULL's to an empty string or zero for the NOT NULL fields. I now get 
invalid data in my tables. Nasty. :-(

The short term solution is to validate the data in the input file before it 
gets imported. I was hoping there was an option in Load Data Infile to 
prevent it from converting NULL's to '' or 0. I'd rather have invalid data 
rejected than converted.

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: mos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:50 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: How to define a required field in a table?


 Is it possible to define required fields in a MySQL table?
 By that I mean if the row is updated and the field value is
 still null, the
 update for the row is rejected and an error is produced.

 The NOT NULL clause in the table definition simply converts
 NULL values
 to '' or zero for string and numeric fields. This only makes
 things worse
 because now it is harder to spot invalid data because the
 zeroes and ''
 blends in with valid data.

 So I need the update to fail so I can keep invalid data
 (NULL's) out of the
 table. Any idea on how to do this? TIA

 Mike



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Re: Ancestry program

2003-10-28 Thread Roger
Around Tue,Oct 28 2003, at 12:15,  Nitin, wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm developing a web based ancestry program. The user wants it to be static, that 
 means, it isn't for all to use, but his family. Better to say, it'll contain only 
 his family tree.
 
 Now, I cant think of the proper db design, which will help any user to find his or 
 her relationship with any other person in the tree. Though, I can design a simple 
 database, where everything will have to be done through queries and scripts, but I 
 want those queries to keep as simple as possible. 
 
 Any help will be appreciated, as I'm new to such a problem.
 
There's a 'ged2db' utility that converts from GED format to a database.
I believe it converts from GED to mysql, postgresql and other formats.

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Indexes and multi-column Primary Keys

2003-10-28 Thread Chris
Hi, I'm not sure I understand indexes properly.

In this EXPLAIN, I expected the Cls (Classes) table to be of type ref with
the key being ObjectID. I'm joining both identically as far as I can tell,
on one of the columns in the primary key, which is set to a key itself, but
Cls is joining on ALL. Why is it doing that?

Has it got something to do with the way my query is worded?

Thanks in advance,
Chris

=EXPLAIN===
+-++--+--+-+-+--+---
---+
| table   | type   | possible_keys| key  | key_len | ref   
  | rows | Extra
|
+-++--+--+-+-+--+---
---+
| NPCSpl  | index  | PRIMARY  | PRIMARY  |  10 | NULL  
  | 6034 | Using index; Using
temporary; Using filesort |
| ObjNPCs | eq_ref | PRIMARY  | PRIMARY  |   8 | 
const,NPCSpl.FileID,NPCSpl.ObjectID |1 | Using where; Using index
|
| NPCs| eq_ref | PRIMARY,ObjectID | PRIMARY  |   6 | 
ObjNPCs.FileID,ObjNPCs.ObjectID |1 |
|
| Spl | ref| PRIMARY,ObjectID | ObjectID |   4 | NPCSpl.ObjectID_Spell 
  |   15 |
|
| ObjSpl  | eq_ref | PRIMARY  | PRIMARY  |   8 | 
const,Spl.FileID,Spl.ObjectID   |1 | Using where; Using index
|
| Cls | ALL| PRIMARY,ObjectID | NULL |NULL | NULL  
  |   84 | Using where
|
| ObjCls  | eq_ref | PRIMARY  | PRIMARY  |   8 | 
const,Cls.FileID,Cls.ObjectID   |1 | Using where; Using index
|
+-++--+--+-+-+--+---
---+


=QUERY=
SELECT
  NPCs.FileID,
  NPCs.ObjectID,
  NPCs.Name,
  Spl.FileID as FileID_Spell,
  Spl.ObjectID as ObjectID_Spell,
  Spl.Name as Name_Spell
FROM NPCs
JOIN GroupedObjects ObjNPCs
  ON
  (
1=ObjNPCs.GroupID
AND
NPCs.FileID=ObjNPCs.FileID
AND
NPCs.ObjectID=ObjNPCs.ObjectID
  )
JOIN NPCSpells NPCSpl
  ON
  (
ObjNPCs.FileID=NPCSpl.FileID
AND
ObjNPCs.ObjectID=NPCSpl.ObjectID
  )
JOIN Spells Spl
  ON
  (
Spl.ObjectID=NPCSpl.ObjectID_Spell
  )
INNER JOIN GroupedObjects ObjSpl
  ON
  (
1=ObjSpl.GroupID
AND
Spl.FileID=ObjSpl.FileID
AND
Spl.ObjectID=ObjSpl.ObjectID
  )
JOIN Classes Cls
  ON
  (
Cls.ObjectID=NPCs.ObjectID_Class
  )
INNER JOIN GroupedObjects ObjCls
  ON
  (
1=ObjCls.GroupID
AND
Cls.FileID=ObjCls.FileID
AND
Cls.ObjectID=ObjCls.ObjectID
  )
WHERE
  2048  NPCs.Services
  OR
  2048  Cls.Services
ORDER BY
  NPCs.ObjectID;

=TABLES
CREATE TABLE `Spells` (
  `FileID` smallint(5) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `ObjectID` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `Name` char(32) default NULL,
  `SpellTypeID` tinyint(4) NOT NULL default '0',
  `Cost` int(11) NOT NULL default '0',
  `Flags`
set('0x1','0x2','0x4','0x8','0x10','0x20','0x40','0x80','0x100','0x200','0x400','0x800','0x1000','0x2000','0x4000','0x8000','0x1
','0x2','0x4','0x8','0x10','0x20','0x40','0x80','0x100','0x200','0x400','0x800','0x1
000','0x2000','0x4000','0x8000') NOT NULL default '',
  PRIMARY KEY  (`FileID`,`ObjectID`),
  KEY `ObjectID` (`ObjectID`)
) TYPE=MyISAM COMMENT='Spells'


CREATE TABLE `Classes` (
  `FileID` smallint(5) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `ObjectID` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `Name` varchar(32) NOT NULL default '',
  `AttrID_Pri0` tinyint(4) NOT NULL default '0',
  `AttrID_Pri1` tinyint(4) NOT NULL default '0',
  `SpecID` tinyint(4) NOT NULL default '0',
  `SkillID_Maj0` tinyint(3) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `SkillID_Maj1` tinyint(3) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `SkillID_Maj2` tinyint(3) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `SkillID_Maj3` tinyint(3) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `SkillID_Maj4` tinyint(3) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `SkillID_Min0` tinyint(3) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `SkillID_Min1` tinyint(3) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `SkillID_Min2` tinyint(3) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `SkillID_Min3` tinyint(3) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `SkillID_Min4` tinyint(3) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
  `Flags`
set('Playable','0x2','0x4','0x8','0x10','0x20','0x40','0x80','0x100','0x200','0x400','0x800','0x1000','0x2000','0x4000','0x8000','0x
1','0x2','0x4','0x8','0x10','0x20','0x40','0x80','0x100','0x200','0x400','0x800','0x
1000','0x2000','0x4000','0x8000') NOT NULL default '',
  `Services` 

RE: problem with MySQL and latest release of Mac OX X (Panther)

2003-10-28 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall
Could you look at you’re hostname.err file and see if it says checking
table?

Also try mysql -A sampdb


- Dathan Vance Pattishall
  - Sr. Programmer and mySQL DBA for FriendFinder Inc.
  - http://friendfinder.com/go/p40688


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--Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:03 PM
--To: 'Dathan Vance Pattishall'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--Subject: RE: problem with MySQL and latest release of Mac OX X
(Panther)
--
--BTW, nothing's changed in my.cnf...
--
--.my.cnf
-
--[client]
--host=localhost
--user=jim
--password=password
--
--No query, I just entered 'mysql sampdb'. It hung indefinitely; I had
to
--kill
--the window.
--Since I couldn't get into mysql I don't know the value of any
variables.
--
--
---Original Message-
--From: Dathan Vance Pattishall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:42 PM
--To: Anderson, James H [IT]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--Subject: RE: problem with MySQL and latest release of Mac OX X
(Panther)
--
--
--Can you post you're my.cnf options / your query in question / how
long
--have you seen it hang / what status it is in / and your show status
--vars.
--
--
--
--- Dathan Vance Pattishall
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--  - http://friendfinder.com/go/p40688
--
--
-Original Message-
From: Anderson, James H [IT]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 1:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: problem with MySQL and latest release of Mac OX X
(Panther)

Much to my surprise and chagrin, I'm having a problem using MySQL
--after
upgrading to the latest release of Mac OS X this past weekend. As
far
--as
I can tell, the server seems to be running, but when I attempt to
--execute
the mysql command it just hangs. Any ideas?

Thanks,

jim


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Re: Problem with insert data

2003-10-28 Thread Rafal Kedziorski
At 15:09 28.10.2003 -0600, gerald_clark wrote:

Rafal Kedziorski wrote:

hi,

I'm using MySQL 4.0.13 and 4.0.14 (4.0.16 I will test tomorrow). And I 
have problems with this query:

insert into user(class_id, retail_id, mandant_id, language_id, 
user_data_id, nickname, login_name, password, status, creation_date, 
last_login_date) values ('35F7A660096411D89BC0D1907F01', '1234', 2, 
1, null, null, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 'demo', 8, '2003-10-28 17:31:36', null)
This is incorrect.
This query will be generated by JBoss 3.2.2. It's also a JBoss problem?

but the same query with space after user

insert into user (class_id, retail_id, mandant_id, language_id, 
user_data_id, nickname, login_name, password, status, creation_date, 
last_login_date) values ('35F7A660096411D89BC0D1907F01', '1234', 2, 
1, null, null, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', 'demo', 8, '2003-10-28 17:31:36', null)

works.
This is corerect.



Regards,
Rafal
user() is a function.
o.k.

Rafal 

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Daylight Savings Time

2003-10-28 Thread James Kelty
Hello,

We had a strange instance happen here with one of our MySQL servers.
We have multiple MySQL installations, and one of the MySQL servers had a
problem with daylight savings time.

Basically, when we ran a select now(); MySQL reported time that was two
hours ahead of the actual time. The system /bin/date command was correct
however.

We restarted the MySQL server and the time was corrected. I have looked
at 'most' of our other servers, and none of them (so far) has had this
issue.

I am just wondering if anyone else has seen this problem?

-James



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RE: reproducible error 17

2003-10-28 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall
Thanks for the information. I to found a work around-a much uglier
approach.

For all ALTERs of a src table to work when synonyms of tables are
present: perform the ALTER on the slave itself and add to
skip-slave-errors=1060

This is a quick work around. Very very ugly.


- Dathan Vance Pattishall
  - Sr. Programmer and mySQL DBA for FriendFinder Inc.
  - http://friendfinder.com/go/p40688


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--From: Guilhem Bichot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:32 AM
--To: Dathan Vance Pattishall
--Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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--Subject: RE: reproducible error 17
--
--On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 12:07, Guilhem Bichot wrote:
-- On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 00:15, Guilhem Bichot wrote:
--  On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 22:01, Dathan Vance Pattishall wrote:
--
--  So the conclusion is: unfortunately, the symlink support in MySQL
was
--  not designed for synonyming, as far as DDL (Data Definition
--Language -
--  CREATE TABLE / DROP TABLE / ALTER TABLE) commands are concerned.
It
--was
--  designed with the thought that symlinks are to be used to point
to a
--  *different* directory (another partition where there is more
room, or
--  another device to balance disk load). For DDL commands MySQL
always
--  expects a table to exist only once, i.e. to have only one name.
--Putting,
--  in the database directory, a symlink and the real table means
giving
--2
--  names to one table...
-- 
--  I will add a note about this into our manual soon. I understand
this
--is
--  is an inconvenience for you; you will be safe if you always do
the
--DDL
--  commands (ALTER TABLE, in your case) on the real table. It's ok
to do
--  DML commands (INSERT/DELETE/UPDATE/LOADDATA, which fortunately
occur
--  much more often than ALTER TABLE normally) on both tables
--indifferently.
--
-- Sorry, I should have been more accurate in the last sentence.
-- It's ok to do DML commands *always* on the real table OR *always*
on
--the
-- synonym table.
-- If thread1 uses the real table's name, and thread 2 uses the
synonym,
-- the query cache can be fooled:
-- - set global query_cache_size=100;
-- - connection1: select * from tbl_;
-- - connection2: insert into tbl values(1);
-- - connection1: select * from tbl_; you don't see the inserted row!
-- - connection1: flush tables (empties caches); select * from tbl_;
you
-- see the inserted row!
--
-- Even if you disable the query cache, I am not sure if it's safe to
use
-- both names; there could be some other fooled caches in MySQL.
--
-- Simply put, things go wild when the real name and the synonym are
both
-- used. Which impacts the interest of using synonyms (hum). And FLUSH
-- TABLES is a remedy.
--
-- I'll add this to the manual.
--
--Added. You should be able to see it in our online manual
--www.mysql.com/doc
--(end of section Using symbolic links) in the next hours.
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RE: Indexes and multi-column Primary Keys

2003-10-28 Thread Chris
Hmmm... I fixed the problem but I still don't know what caused it. That same query now 
produces the below EXPLAIN result and now
runs 70% faster.

I ran OPTIMIZE TABLE on Spells and Classes, that made Spl rows 1, then I forced the 
Cls table to use the Object index and it worked.

Now, I can't get it to reproduce the problem. The database was just created and 
populated, so it couldn't have been DB degradation.

Any ideas?

Chris

+-++--+--+-+-+--+---
---+
| table   | type   | possible_keys| key  | key_len | ref   
  | rows | Extra
|
+-++--+--+-+-+--+---
---+
| NPCSpl  | index  | PRIMARY  | PRIMARY  |  10 | NULL  
  | 6034 | Using index; Using
temporary; Using filesort |
| ObjNPCs | eq_ref | PRIMARY  | PRIMARY  |   8 | 
const,NPCSpl.FileID,NPCSpl.ObjectID |1 | Using where; Using index
|
| NPCs| eq_ref | PRIMARY,ObjectID | PRIMARY  |   6 | 
ObjNPCs.FileID,ObjNPCs.ObjectID |1 |
|
| Spl | ref| PRIMARY,ObjectID | ObjectID |   4 | NPCSpl.ObjectID_Spell 
  |1 |
|
| ObjSpl  | eq_ref | PRIMARY  | PRIMARY  |   8 | 
const,Spl.FileID,Spl.ObjectID   |1 | Using where; Using index
|
| Cls | ref| PRIMARY,ObjectID | ObjectID |   4 | NPCs.ObjectID_Class   
  |1 | Using where
|
| ObjCls  | eq_ref | PRIMARY  | PRIMARY  |   8 | 
const,Cls.FileID,Cls.ObjectID   |1 | Using where; Using index
|
+-++--+--+-+-+--+---
---+



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Re: Daylight Savings Time

2003-10-28 Thread David Lloyd

James,

 We had a strange instance happen here with one of our MySQL servers.
 We have multiple MySQL installations, and one of the MySQL servers had a
 problem with daylight savings time.
 
 Basically, when we ran a select now(); MySQL reported time that was two
 hours ahead of the actual time. The system /bin/date command was correct
 however.

Were they all on the same operating system and version?


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Re: Almost beating Rushmore -- was: Really slow query (compared with Visual FoxPro)

2003-10-28 Thread Alexander Barkov
  Héctor,

Changing various buffer sizes can improve performance significantly,
with key_buffer_size as the first thing to tune.
Also, make sure you are using not debugging version of the server.

Please also take a look in this section of the documentation
for details:
http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Optimising_the_Server.html

Héctor Villafuerte D. wrote:
Hi guys!
Ok, I'm closer to beat Rushmore (VFP optimizer) now!
After some reading about MySQL optimization techniques,
here is the summary of what I've done:
1. Add a compound index to the table
2. Use EXPLAIN to check out the query (with GROUP BY on multiple fields)
3. Create the summary table
And here's the detailed instructions:

mysql alter table traf_oper add index (tel, telefb, rutaentran, 
rutasalien, minutos);
Query OK, 5067215 rows affected (5 min 22.36 sec)
Records: 5067215  Duplicates: 0  Warnings: 0

mysql explain select tel, telefb, rutaentran, rutasalien, sum(minutos) 
from traf_oper group by 1, 2, 3, 4;
++-+---+---+---+--+-+--+-+-+ 

| id | select_type | table | type  | possible_keys | key  | key_len 
| ref  | rows| Extra   |
++-+---+---+---+--+-+--+-+-+ 

|  1 | SIMPLE  | traf_oper | index | NULL  | tel  |  45 
| NULL | 5067215 | Using index |
++-+---+---+---+--+-+--+-+-+ 

1 row in set (0.03 sec)

mysql create table grp_oper select tel, telefb, rutaentran, rutasalien, 
sum(minutos) as minutos from traf_oper group by
1, 2, 3, 4;
Query OK, 3326541 rows affected (33.81 sec)
Records: 3326541  Duplicates: 0  Warnings: 0

Adding the times together it would take MySQL like 6 minutes (VFP does 
it in about 4 minutes).
I still haven't tweaked some server variables (read_rnd_buffer_size, 
sort_buffer_size, max_join_size),
but, as always, I'll keep trying :)
Thanks in advance for your comments and suggestions,
Hector




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