ANN: Database Designer for MySQL 2.1.0 Beta available!

2013-07-22 Thread Aleksander Andreev
 This release does not introduce any new functionality.  A huge amount of
internal and architecture tasks were done instead. New compiler version
used as well as new exception tracer implemented. Some little changes, not
worthy of mention, are also present.

There are two new major features in this release as compared to previous:
[!] New compiler used in development
[!] New exception tracer tool used

Please test v2.1.0-Beta thoroughly. We depend on your bug reports and
feedback in order to proceed to final release.

The more testing you do, the sooner 2.1.0 will be available.

If you have some spare time to help us with testing, please visit MicroOLAP
Database Designer for MySQL Download page at
http://microolap.com/products/database/mysql-designer/download/.

Please don't hesitate to ask any questions or report bugs with our Support
Ticketing system available at http://www.microolap.com/support/

Beta releases should never be used in production; they are for testing
purposes only.


uncertain future of Oracle MySQL exams [1Z0-871, 1Z0-872, 1Z0-873, 1Z0-874]

2013-07-22 Thread Lukas Lehner
Hi

I am now responsible for LAMP applications. I worked previously with Oracle
11g.
It seems that those exams are an easy win for me. I guess my preparation
effort is about 60 hours.

1Z0-871 MySQL 5 Developer Certified Professional Exam, Part I
1Z0-872 MySQL 5 Developer Certified Professional Exam, Part II
1Z0-873 MySQL 5 Database Administrator Certified Professional Exam, Part I
1Z0-874 MySQL 5 Database Administrator Certified Professional Exam, Part II

My concern is about the future of MySQL and the MySQL certifications.

- it seems the exams didn't change since 2005
- Linux distributions ship MariaDB (not MySQL)
- Oracle Press don't publish an official study guide
- MySQL OCP exams are simpler than other OCP exams (for example Oracle 11g)

what do you think?


InnoDB problem.

2013-07-22 Thread Luis H. Forchesatto
Greetings.

I've restored an MySQL backup from our MySQL server into another server.
The backup includes InnoDB tables. After the import, MySQL recognized the
innodb tables fine but when I try to do a check table ir returns that the
table doesn't exists.

Permission and owner of the table files (.frm files) are ok, since it
recognizes MyISAM tables (they have the same permission). Innodb engine is
enabled..

Which can cause the tables to appears as non existent, as far as they do
really exist?

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Re: InnoDB problem.

2013-07-22 Thread Johan De Meersman
- Original Message -
 From: Luis H. Forchesatto luisforchesa...@gmail.com
 Subject: InnoDB problem.
 
 Permission and owner of the table files (.frm files) are ok, since it
 recognizes MyISAM tables (they have the same permission). 

Oops. You should always read the fine manual.

You took file-level backups, yes? Did they include the ibdata1 and similar 
files? Those contain innodb's dictionary - and in default installs also all the 
actual tables. The database/* files only contain the .frm, for innodb.

If I'm right, you haven't got a backup at all. I'm crossing my fingers that I'm 
wrong...


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Re: uncertain future of Oracle MySQL exams [1Z0-871, 1Z0-872, 1Z0-873, 1Z0-874]

2013-07-22 Thread shawn green

Hello Lukas,

On 7/22/2013 8:16 AM, Lukas Lehner wrote:

Hi

I am now responsible for LAMP applications. I worked previously with Oracle
11g.
It seems that those exams are an easy win for me. I guess my preparation
effort is about 60 hours.

1Z0-871 MySQL 5 Developer Certified Professional Exam, Part I
1Z0-872 MySQL 5 Developer Certified Professional Exam, Part II
1Z0-873 MySQL 5 Database Administrator Certified Professional Exam, Part I
1Z0-874 MySQL 5 Database Administrator Certified Professional Exam, Part II

My concern is about the future of MySQL and the MySQL certifications.

- it seems the exams didn't change since 2005
- Linux distributions ship MariaDB (not MySQL)
- Oracle Press don't publish an official study guide
- MySQL OCP exams are simpler than other OCP exams (for example Oracle 11g)

what do you think?



You are correct. However, after being acquired twice in rapid succession 
and after much internal MySQL reorganization due to each, a few 
resources are back in place to keep up with this stuff again.


For some pretty solid legal reasons Oracle tries to avoid announcing 
much of anything before it is actually ready to be used. Stay tuned to 
the publicity channels for any official announcements if or when they 
are made.


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RE: Mysql cache issues???

2013-07-22 Thread Rick James
For most, not all, production servers, these two are the 'right' settings:
   query_cache_type = OFF
   query_cache_size = 0
Both are needed to avoid some code paths from being unnecessarily followed.  
(Maybe someday, that will be fixed, too.)

I recommend only 50M as the max for _size.

Here are some metrics to look at to see if the QC is worth having.  (Of course, 
you have to run with it ON or DEMAND for a while to get values for these.)

Qcache_free_memory / query_cache_size -- good value..bad value: 0%,100%
 -- Meaning: Pct Query Cache free -- What to do if 'bad': lower query_cache_size
Qcache_lowmem_prunes / Uptime -- good value..bad value: 0,15
 -- Meaning: Query Cache spilling -- What to do if 'bad': increase 
query_cache_size
Qcache_not_cached / Uptime -- good value..bad value: 0,80
 -- Meaning: SQL_CACHE attempted, but ignored -- What to do if 'bad': Rethink 
caching; tune qcache
Qcache_free_blocks * 4096 / query_cache_size -- good value..bad value: 0,1
 -- Meaning: Fragmentation in qcache -- What to do if 'bad': decrease 
query_cache_min_res_unit
Qcache_hits / Qcache_inserts -- good value..bad value: 10,1
 -- Meaning: Hit to insert ratio -- high is good
Qcache_hits / (Qcache_hits + Com_select) -- good value..bad value: 100%,25%
 -- Meaning: Hit ratio -- What to do if 'bad': Use _type=DEMAND and use 
SELECT SQL_NO_CACHE more often
Qcache_total_blocks * query_cache_min_res_unit / Qcache_queries_in_cache
 -- Meaning: estimate of query size -- What to do if 'bad': adjust 
query_cache_min_res_unit
Qcache_queries_in_cache
 -- Meaning: Queries cached
(Com_select + Qcache_hits) / (Com_insert + Com_update + Com_delete + 
Com_replace)
 -- Meaning: Read to write ratio

 -Original Message-
 From: Johan De Meersman [mailto:vegiv...@tuxera.be]
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:53 PM
 To: shawn green; mysql@lists.mysql.com
 Subject: Re: Mysql cache issues???
 
 Shawn,
 
 I can't help but wonder wether that first paragraph means there are
 concrete plans to redo the qc?
 
 
 shawn green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com wrote:
 Hello Egoitz,
 
 On 7/15/2013 1:35 PM, Egoitz Aurrekoetxea wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  On 15/07/13 17:27, Reindl Harald wrote:
 
 ... snip...
  i would say my caches are working perfectly (not only the mysql
 cache, also opcache etc.) since whe have generate times down to
  0.006 seconds for a typical CMS page here which runs in more than
  200 installations on the main machine, at high load mysqld is  never
 the problem
 
  without the query cache the overall performance drops by 30-40%
 
 
 
  Hi,
 
  The query cache hit rate is near 90% so I assume it's doing all
  properly... now I'm using 1GB as cache but... I will do some
  tries... till I see some significant behavior either due to success
 or
  failure... I was basically wondering what did you though about
  performance penalty due to the mysql cache... just that...
 
  Thank you very much then
  ... signature snipped ...
 
 
 Until we redesign the query cache, those stalls will remain. It is
 unwize to keep so many sets of query results around if they are not
 actually being used.
 
 As has been covered already, the freeze required to perform the purge
 of all results associated with a specific table can at times be
 extended (durations of 20-30 minutes are not unusual with cache sizes
 around 1GB). What you may find is that even if some of your results are
 reused
 
 frequently for a short period of time, they are not reused at all
 beyond a certain moment. This means you have hundreds or thousands of
 sets of query results sitting idle in your cache.  Reduce the size of
 your cache until you start to see your reuse rate or efficiency rate
 decline significantly. You may be surprised how small that is for your
 workload.
 
 To achieve scalability: customize your cache structures to your
 workload (this may mean caching the results somewhere other than
 MySQL), optimize your tables for efficient storage and retrieval, and
 optimize your queries to be as efficient as practical. There are other
 scalability options such as replication and sharding that can also be
 introduced into your production environment to reduce the cost of
 computation on each copy (or portion) of your data. However, this is a
 topic best handled in a separate thread.
 
 --
 Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
 
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RE: Mysql cache issues???

2013-07-22 Thread Johan De Meersman
And for most, not all, of /my/ production servers since pretty much ever, the 
right setting has been on.

Again, please don't generalize based off your own usecase. I have no idea what 
the whole world is doing with their servers.

Rick James rja...@yahoo-inc.com wrote:
For most, not all, production servers, these two are the 'right'
settings:
   query_cache_type = OFF
   query_cache_size = 0
Both are needed to avoid some code paths from being unnecessarily
followed.  (Maybe someday, that will be fixed, too.)

I recommend only 50M as the max for _size.

Here are some metrics to look at to see if the QC is worth having.  (Of
course, you have to run with it ON or DEMAND for a while to get values
for these.)

Qcache_free_memory / query_cache_size -- good value..bad value: 0%,100%
-- Meaning: Pct Query Cache free -- What to do if 'bad': lower
query_cache_size
Qcache_lowmem_prunes / Uptime -- good value..bad value: 0,15
-- Meaning: Query Cache spilling -- What to do if 'bad': increase
query_cache_size
Qcache_not_cached / Uptime -- good value..bad value: 0,80
-- Meaning: SQL_CACHE attempted, but ignored -- What to do if 'bad':
Rethink caching; tune qcache
Qcache_free_blocks * 4096 / query_cache_size -- good value..bad value:
0,1
-- Meaning: Fragmentation in qcache -- What to do if 'bad': decrease
query_cache_min_res_unit
Qcache_hits / Qcache_inserts -- good value..bad value: 10,1
 -- Meaning: Hit to insert ratio -- high is good
Qcache_hits / (Qcache_hits + Com_select) -- good value..bad value:
100%,25%
-- Meaning: Hit ratio -- What to do if 'bad': Use _type=DEMAND and
use SELECT SQL_NO_CACHE more often
Qcache_total_blocks * query_cache_min_res_unit /
Qcache_queries_in_cache
-- Meaning: estimate of query size -- What to do if 'bad': adjust
query_cache_min_res_unit
Qcache_queries_in_cache
 -- Meaning: Queries cached
(Com_select + Qcache_hits) / (Com_insert + Com_update + Com_delete +
Com_replace)
 -- Meaning: Read to write ratio

 -Original Message-
 From: Johan De Meersman [mailto:vegiv...@tuxera.be]
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:53 PM
 To: shawn green; mysql@lists.mysql.com
 Subject: Re: Mysql cache issues???
 
 Shawn,
 
 I can't help but wonder wether that first paragraph means there are
 concrete plans to redo the qc?
 
 
 shawn green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com wrote:
 Hello Egoitz,
 
 On 7/15/2013 1:35 PM, Egoitz Aurrekoetxea wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  On 15/07/13 17:27, Reindl Harald wrote:
 
 ... snip...
  i would say my caches are working perfectly (not only the mysql
 cache, also opcache etc.) since whe have generate times down to
  0.006 seconds for a typical CMS page here which runs in more than
  200 installations on the main machine, at high load mysqld is 
never
 the problem
 
  without the query cache the overall performance drops by 30-40%
 
 
 
  Hi,
 
  The query cache hit rate is near 90% so I assume it's doing
all
  properly... now I'm using 1GB as cache but... I will do some
  tries... till I see some significant behavior either due to
success
 or
  failure... I was basically wondering what did you though about
  performance penalty due to the mysql cache... just that...
 
  Thank you very much then
  ... signature snipped ...
 
 
 Until we redesign the query cache, those stalls will remain. It is
 unwize to keep so many sets of query results around if they are not
 actually being used.
 
 As has been covered already, the freeze required to perform the
purge
 of all results associated with a specific table can at times be
 extended (durations of 20-30 minutes are not unusual with cache
sizes
 around 1GB). What you may find is that even if some of your results
are
 reused
 
 frequently for a short period of time, they are not reused at all
 beyond a certain moment. This means you have hundreds or thousands
of
 sets of query results sitting idle in your cache.  Reduce the size
of
 your cache until you start to see your reuse rate or efficiency rate
 decline significantly. You may be surprised how small that is for
your
 workload.
 
 To achieve scalability: customize your cache structures to your
 workload (this may mean caching the results somewhere other than
 MySQL), optimize your tables for efficient storage and retrieval,
and
 optimize your queries to be as efficient as practical. There are
other
 scalability options such as replication and sharding that can also
be
 introduced into your production environment to reduce the cost of
 computation on each copy (or portion) of your data. However, this is
a
 topic best handled in a separate thread.
 
 --
 Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
 
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