Re: forum vs email [was: Re: table-for-column]

2014-12-06 Thread Johan De Meersman
- Original Message -
 From: Jan Steinman j...@ecoreality.org
 Subject: Re: forum vs email [was: Re: table-for-column]

 There actually seem to be a lot of these around. I'm on several that send me
 email when there are new forum postings.

Yes, that bit is pretty standard functionality; but usually they're little more 
than a notification that something was posted, maybe the first few lines of a 
post.

I want:
 * The entire post, and as little notification-type content as possible,
 * headers and subjects so that mail clients that support threading will thread 
everything from a single forum topic in a mail thread and vice versa,
 * and, most importantly, the ability to also *reply* through mail and have it 
appear in the forum thread at the appropriate place in the conversation

Those things are what would make it a proper mailing list integration, instead 
of just another notification tool.


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Re: forum vs email

2014-12-06 Thread hsv
 2014/12/06 12:51 +0100, Johan De Meersman 
I want:
 * The entire post, and as little notification-type content as possible,
 * headers and subjects so that mail clients that support threading will thread 
everything from a single forum topic in a mail thread and vice versa,
 * and, most importantly, the ability to also *reply* through mail and have it 
appear in the forum thread at the appropriate place in the conversation

Those things are what would make it a proper mailing list integration, instead 
of just another notification tool. 

That is, this list, right? What does it lack (besides readers)?


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Re: forum vs email

2014-12-06 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 06.12.2014 um 16:53 schrieb h...@tbbs.net:

2014/12/06 12:51 +0100, Johan De Meersman 

I want:
  * The entire post, and as little notification-type content as possible,
  * headers and subjects so that mail clients that support threading will 
thread everything from a single forum topic in a mail thread and vice versa,
  * and, most importantly, the ability to also *reply* through mail and have it 
appear in the forum thread at the appropriate place in the conversation

Those things are what would make it a proper mailing list integration, instead 
of just another notification tool.

That is, this list, right? What does it lack (besides readers)?


mail-clients using a readable quoting, your's do not :-)



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Re: forum vs email [was: Re: table-for-column]

2014-12-06 Thread Jigal van Hemert

Hi,
On 05/12/2014 20:54, Jan Steinman wrote:

From: Johan De Meersman vegiv...@tuxera.be

I've long wanted to - but never quite got around to - write a forum that 
integrated a mailing list. Bar mail clients that don't handle list threads 
well, it really doesn't seem such a difficult task.

There actually seem to be a lot of these around. I'm on several that send me 
email when there are new forum postings.


On typo3.org there used to be mailing lists only in a distant past. 
Later on newsgroups were set up which communicate with the mailing lists 
(newsgroups are the central source of messages).
Rather recently a forum was built on top of the newsgroup data (FUD 
forum was used). Users on all three message sources can easily 
communicate with eachother.
Only some mail clients have difficulty keeping the threading headers in 
tact, but other than that there are no real issues.


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Re: forum vs email [was: Re: table-for-column]

2014-12-06 Thread Michael Dykman
I have been a resident of this list for a very long time. In the early
days, this was the only place to get reliable information about what was
then a relatively obscure database system. Now, local and online bookstores
have shelves full of books, many of them authored by list regulars. We have
expert forums which have become more more mature and tens of thousands of
example projects readily accessible on github and Google code. And,  lest
we forget, as the product and the documentation matured,  fewer desperate
situations arose. The list of not such a critical last resort as it once
was.

It's true that the list lost a lot of steam after the Oracle acquisition
and Monty's rants had a polarizing effect. Since then, it has been low
traffic with few threads of much interest.

In spite of the rapid rise of NoSql, managed instances of MySQL on a cloud
have become a major commodity. The relational model is not dead and
reliable implementations will always be in demand.

On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 15:53 Jigal van Hemert ji...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Hi,
 On 05/12/2014 20:54, Jan Steinman wrote:
  From: Johan De Meersman vegiv...@tuxera.be
 
  I've long wanted to - but never quite got around to - write a forum
 that integrated a mailing list. Bar mail clients that don't handle list
 threads well, it really doesn't seem such a difficult task.
  There actually seem to be a lot of these around. I'm on several that
 send me email when there are new forum postings.

 On typo3.org there used to be mailing lists only in a distant past.
 Later on newsgroups were set up which communicate with the mailing lists
 (newsgroups are the central source of messages).
 Rather recently a forum was built on top of the newsgroup data (FUD
 forum was used). Users on all three message sources can easily
 communicate with eachother.
 Only some mail clients have difficulty keeping the threading headers in
 tact, but other than that there are no real issues.

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Specking a small MySQL server

2014-12-06 Thread Richard Reina
I have used MySQL for about twelve years as a database on our private LAN
that has only a handful of users at a time that query about a dozen
databases. The current server is an old rack-mounted machine that is
somewhat of an energy hog and is due to be replaced. I was considering
replacing it with a lap-top so as to conserve energy and because a laptop
has a built in battery backup. Currently I have a couple of laptops running
as slaves. Can anyone advise as to a good reliable brand of laptop to run
Linux and MySQL for this purpose. As this will by my main server I was
looking for something reliable.

Thanks for any ideas or insights.

Richard


Re: forum vs email

2014-12-06 Thread Mogens Melander
Just to pitch in, on this rather weird discussion.

I've been on the MySQL pretty much from day one. I started
on mSQL and transferred to MySQL when Monty took that corner.

I'm probably not the only one, lurking in the shadows.

On Sat, December 6, 2014 17:33, Reindl Harald wrote:

 Am 06.12.2014 um 16:53 schrieb h...@tbbs.net:
 2014/12/06 12:51 +0100, Johan De Meersman 
 I want:
   * The entire post, and as little notification-type content as
 possible,
   * headers and subjects so that mail clients that support threading
 will thread everything from a single forum topic in a mail thread and
 vice versa,
   * and, most importantly, the ability to also *reply* through mail and
 have it appear in the forum thread at the appropriate place in the
 conversation

 Those things are what would make it a proper mailing list integration,
 instead of just another notification tool.
 
 That is, this list, right? What does it lack (besides readers)?

 mail-clients using a readable quoting, your's do not :-)




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