Re: Replication and user privileges

2019-02-25 Thread Jim

On 2/25/2019 5:46 PM, shawn l.green wrote:

Hello Jim,

On 2/25/2019 5:04 PM, Jim wrote:

I have a question about mysql replication. I believe I understand most
of it, but have a question about user privileges.

I understand on the master, the replication user must have the
Repl_slave_priv privilege as described here:
https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/privileges-provided.html#priv_replication-slave 




My question is about what replication-related users and privileges must
exist on the slave.

So, for example, if an insert on the master that is to be replicated is
performed by user 'abc' with proper insert permissions on the master,
does that same 'abc' user with same insert permissions need to exist on
the slave as well?

In other words, what user is performing the replication operation on the
slave? I don't see any indication of users referenced in the bin logs
that I have examined on the master. Are user and privileges regarding
replicated queries irrelevant on the slave and that is handled all
internally via the replication thread with no regard to user privileges?

Thank you.
Jim



Your final supposition is correct. All privileges were checked and 
verified on the master when the original command was executed. The 
Replication system on the slave is going to repeat that change as well 
as possible given the state of its copy of the data without regards to 
"who originally performed this change" on the upstream master.


We do not store credentials in the Binary Log because they are not 
important to either of the purposes of the Binary Log


* point-in-time recovery
or
* Replication (which is very much like an automated, continuous 
point-in-time recovery)


===

That replication account you mentioned, on the master, is required to 
give a slave (and you could have several) enough rights to read the 
Binary Log and not much else. This allows you to create an account 
that can login from a remote location with the "least privileges" 
necessary to do its job. This minimizes your data's exposure should 
that account become compromised.


Many other accounts could also have the REPL_SLAVE_PRIV privilege and 
any of those could be used by a slave to do the same job. However 
losing control over one of those more privileged accounts could pose a 
higher risk to your data.





Thanks, Shawn. Your response confirms what I had assumed was happening.

So bottom line... what I plan to do is strip the various 
insert/update/delete privileges from appropriate db users on my slaves.
I had placed them there originally because I thought they would be 
needed for the replicated queries, but not true based on your response.


I only want the various mysql users used by my code to have select privs 
on the slaves so that if somehow a slave was mistakenly written to via a 
bug in my code, that write would fail and I would receive the error. The 
slaves should only be used for selects and should never experience a write.


That would make sense based on our discussion, correct?

Thanks again.
Jim

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Re: Replication and user privileges

2019-02-25 Thread shawn l.green

Hello Jim,

On 2/25/2019 5:04 PM, Jim wrote:

I have a question about mysql replication. I believe I understand most
of it, but have a question about user privileges.

I understand on the master, the replication user must have the
Repl_slave_priv privilege as described here:
https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/privileges-provided.html#priv_replication-slave


My question is about what replication-related users and privileges must
exist on the slave.

So, for example, if an insert on the master that is to be replicated is
performed by user 'abc' with proper insert permissions on the master,
does that same 'abc' user with same insert permissions need to exist on
the slave as well?

In other words, what user is performing the replication operation on the
slave? I don't see any indication of users referenced in the bin logs
that I have examined on the master. Are user and privileges regarding
replicated queries irrelevant on the slave and that is handled all
internally via the replication thread with no regard to user privileges?

Thank you.
Jim



Your final supposition is correct. All privileges were checked and 
verified on the master when the original command was executed. The 
Replication system on the slave is going to repeat that change as well 
as possible given the state of its copy of the data without regards to 
"who originally performed this change" on the upstream master.


We do not store credentials in the Binary Log because they are not 
important to either of the purposes of the Binary Log


* point-in-time recovery
or
* Replication (which is very much like an automated, continuous 
point-in-time recovery)


===

That replication account you mentioned, on the master, is required to 
give a slave (and you could have several) enough rights to read the 
Binary Log and not much else. This allows you to create an account that 
can login from a remote location with the "least privileges" necessary 
to do its job. This minimizes your data's exposure should that account 
become compromised.


Many other accounts could also have the REPL_SLAVE_PRIV privilege and 
any of those could be used by a slave to do the same job. However losing 
control over one of those more privileged accounts could pose a higher 
risk to your data.



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Replication and user privileges

2019-02-25 Thread Jim
I have a question about mysql replication. I believe I understand most 
of it, but have a question about user privileges.


I understand on the master, the replication user must have the 
Repl_slave_priv privilege as described here:

https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/privileges-provided.html#priv_replication-slave

My question is about what replication-related users and privileges must 
exist on the slave.


So, for example, if an insert on the master that is to be replicated is 
performed by user 'abc' with proper insert permissions on the master, 
does that same 'abc' user with same insert permissions need to exist on 
the slave as well?


In other words, what user is performing the replication operation on the 
slave? I don't see any indication of users referenced in the bin logs 
that I have examined on the master. Are user and privileges regarding 
replicated queries irrelevant on the slave and that is handled all 
internally via the replication thread with no regard to user privileges?


Thank you.
Jim

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