Re: Examples of savepoints and transactions

2018-01-24 Thread Lars Nielsen

Kind Regards / Med venlig hilsen
Lars Nielsen
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lars Nielsen" <l...@lfweb.dk>
>> To: "MySql" <mysql@lists.mysql.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 23 January, 2018 23:19:29
>> Subject: Re: Examples of savepoints and transactions
> 
>>> Den 22-01-2018 kl. 22:01 skrev shawn l.green:
>>> Hello Lars,
>>> 
>>>> On 1/21/2018 3:37 PM, Lars Nielsen wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I have a system that uses begin and commit transactions. It works
>>>> like a dream! ;)
>>>> Now I want to test it by creating test data. This how ever cannot be
>>>> rolled back. I think the solution for rolling back test data is to
>>>> use savepoints and rollback. I think it is hard to find examples of
>>>> this scenario. Are there some good guides or tutorials out there
>>>> somewhere? Any suggestions are welcome.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Lars Nielsen
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can you mock up an example (a simple text walkthrough) of how you
>>> think a savepoint should work with what you are calling "test data" ?
>>> I think that the term "test data" is too general to make much sense to
>>> most of us in the context you described.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yours,
>> Hello Shawn,
>> Thanks for your interest. Here is an example of my idea.
>> 
>> I have a php site working through PDO connections. I insert some data
>> through php like this :
>> 
>> |START TRANSACTION; SELECT @A:=SUM(salary) FROM table1 WHERE type=1;
>> UPDATE table2 SET summary=@A WHERE type=1; INSERT INTO table3 values (x,
>> y, z); COMMIT; |||
>> 
>> ||Now I want to do automated tests that create "dummy" data that i want
>> to remove after the test has finished:
>> like this :
>> 
>> |SAVEPOINT autotest1; START TRANSACTION; SELECT @A:=SUM(salary) FROM
>> table1 WHERE type=1; UPDATE table2 SET summary=@A WHERE type=1; INSERT
>> INTO table3 values (x, y, z); COMMIT; -- DO OTHER TRANSACTIONAL
>> OPERATIONS ROLLBACK TO autotest1; |||
>> 
>> ||All done. I have tested the application and have cleaned up the dummy
>> test-data.
>> 
>> The issue is that when I call the first commit then the savepoint is
>> deleted.
>> 
>> Is this possible at all?
>> 
>> Regards Lars
>> 
>> ||
>> 
> 
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> Den 24. jan. 2018 kl. 14.50 skrev Johan De Meersman <vegiv...@tuxera.be>:
> 
> What you're looking for is simple backup and restore :-)
> 
> Savepoints are, simply put, markers within a transaction; allowing you to 
> rollback only part of a transaction instead of the whole thing. A commit will 
> inevitably commit the ENTIRE transactions, and thus remove the savepoints.
> 
> A typical workflow for the kind of thing you're trying to do is to have your 
> (automated) testing framework restore last night's backup after the test run. 
> You could also make a backup before the test run and restore that afterwards; 
> have an automated nightly db copy from prod to dev; or in very specific cases 
> you could simply have your test system revert the data by issuing the 
> "reverse" queries - although that one is rarely an option in real life.
> 
> Another alternative would be to take a filesystem (or virtual machine) 
> snapshot, and revert to that after the tests. Filesystem snapshots will 
> require your database to be stopped and started, though.
> 
> /Johan
> 

Thanks Johan,
I understood the savepoints could be around transactions and not within! 
I know how to restore from a backup. I just wanted to avoid loading 500+GB 
after each test-run. :)
Thanks for your help everyone.
/Lars

Re: Examples of savepoints and transactions

2018-01-23 Thread Lars Nielsen

Den 22-01-2018 kl. 22:01 skrev shawn l.green:

Hello Lars,

On 1/21/2018 3:37 PM, Lars Nielsen wrote:

Hi,
I have a system that uses begin and commit transactions. It works 
like a dream! ;)
Now I want to test it by creating test data. This how ever cannot be 
rolled back. I think the solution for rolling back test data is to 
use savepoints and rollback. I think it is hard to find examples of 
this scenario. Are there some good guides or tutorials out there 
somewhere? Any suggestions are welcome.


Best regards
Lars Nielsen



Can you mock up an example (a simple text walkthrough) of how you 
think a savepoint should work with what you are calling "test data" ?  
I think that the term "test data" is too general to make much sense to 
most of us in the context you described.



Yours,

Hello Shawn,
Thanks for your interest. Here is an example of my idea.

I have a php site working through PDO connections. I insert some data 
through php like this :


|START TRANSACTION; SELECT @A:=SUM(salary) FROM table1 WHERE type=1; 
UPDATE table2 SET summary=@A WHERE type=1; INSERT INTO table3 values (x, 
y, z); COMMIT; |||


||Now I want to do automated tests that create "dummy" data that i want 
to remove after the test has finished:

like this :

|SAVEPOINT autotest1; START TRANSACTION; SELECT @A:=SUM(salary) FROM 
table1 WHERE type=1; UPDATE table2 SET summary=@A WHERE type=1; INSERT 
INTO table3 values (x, y, z); COMMIT; -- DO OTHER TRANSACTIONAL 
OPERATIONS ROLLBACK TO autotest1; |||


||All done. I have tested the application and have cleaned up the dummy 
test-data.


The issue is that when I call the first commit then the savepoint is 
deleted.


Is this possible at all?

Regards Lars

||




Examples of savepoints and transactions

2018-01-21 Thread Lars Nielsen
Hi,
I have a system that uses begin and commit transactions. It works like a dream! 
;)
Now I want to test it by creating test data. This how ever cannot be rolled 
back. I think the solution for rolling back test data is to use savepoints and 
rollback. I think it is hard to find examples of this scenario. Are there some 
good guides or tutorials out there somewhere? Any suggestions are welcome.

Best regards 
Lars Nielsen

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