Re: .org

2001-07-17 Thread Santi Chumbe

Dear Paul,

I have a high respect and esteem for you, your book and your valuable
and effective answers to questions made by dozens of MySQL users. I am
really sorry if I have offended you with my previous e-mail. I think, we
are very busy at work, and it is better to leave for the lawyers the
solution of the MySQL-NuSphere conflict. However, just as a simple
MySQL/PHP/Java/Apache user, I still thinking that MySQL is doing the
right thing.

Best regards,

Santi


Paul DuBois wrote:

 At 9:34 AM +0100 7/16/01, Santi Chumbe wrote:
 Interesting position. The NuSphere’s people are really very clever.

 If I'm reading your statement correctly, you appear to be using
 clever
 as an innuendo for mendacious. If that is so, I must respectfully
 disagree, and point out that statements of that nature are not helpful

 to the discussion.


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Re: .org

2001-07-16 Thread Santi Chumbe

Interesting position. The NuSphere’s people are really very clever.

Interesante posicion. Sabiendo el respeto que tenemos por Paul, este mensaje  juega a
favor de NuSphere.


Paul DuBois wrote:

 In the interests of stemming some of the flood of invective being
 directed against NuSphere...

 I am an employee of NuSphere.

 Those of you who feel it necessary immediately to jump up and denounce
 NuSphere for their sins, please ask yourself:  Do you think I'd work for
 them if I thought they were a bunch of scumbags?  They're not.  NuSphere
 is interested in promoting MySQL, not in destroying it.  For example,
 they pay me a salary to support my writing about MySQL full time, and
 they make no demands that I mention NuSphere in my books (though they're
 of course happy if I do).  You'll see some of the fruit of this support
 next month when the MySQL/Perl book comes out - a book that I hope will
 be of some service to the MySQL community.

 The dispute will be worked out by the parties involved.  Nobody's happy
 about it, but resolving it is difficult because both sides feel they
 have a reasonable position.  You can see this from the messages being
 posted by the directors of MySQL AB and NuSphere.  And of course once
 the lawyers get involved, things don't get any easier.

 Make your opinions known, certainly.  You're all part of the MySQL
 community and your views are valuable.  But please, leave the flames out
 of it. They're not constructive.

 Please be clear what I'm saying.  I am an employee of (not an apologist
 for) NuSphere, and I'm not saying don't criticize NuSphere. I'm saying
 that flames aren't helping anything, particularly if you are not in
 possession of all the facts behind the dispute.

 No one at NuSphere has asked that I write this.  They've asked me for
 feedback, but no one has suggested that I take a side.  I am reluctant
 to do so anyway because it's not clear that there's any merit in doing
 so, and I don't think I have all the facts, either.

 Paul DuBois
 Author, MySQL (the book, not the server!)

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Re: mysql.org

2001-07-13 Thread Santi Chumbe

Dear MySQL team,

My University was considering to buy a number of licences of the
enhanced MySQL(tm) from Nusphere. However, now, we all the University IT
staff (managers, developers, designers, etc.) have decided to strongly
go up against any commercial contact with such a robber company called
Nusphere or mysql.org. We will make sure that our organisation will not
have anything to do with mysql.org.
We are happy with MySQL. We are using MySQL for development in many  of
our projects since 2 years ago and we have only good  things to say
about MySQL.


Best regards,

Santi Chumbe
IT Services
Heriot Watt University


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