RE: Compressing after Deletion

2005-03-15 Thread Terry Riley
David,

According to the documentation, OPTIMIZE will also work on InnoDB tables. 
Will that produce the same result as your ALTER TABLE ?

Cheers
Terry

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 Hi Chris,
 
 For MyISAM/BDB tables use OPTIMIZE TABLE your table name;
 For InnoDB tables try ALTER TABLE your table name TYPE=InnoDB;
 
 Regards
 
 David Logan
 Database Administrator
 HP Managed Services
 148 Frome Street,
 Adelaide 5000
 Australia
 
 +61 8 8408 4273 - Work
 +61 417 268 665 - Mobile
 +61 8 8408 4259 - Fax
 
 
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 Subject: Compressing after Deletion
 
 I have looked in the documentation and either I am not looking for the
 right thing or have simply overlooked it. But my question is this, I
 have
 a database with 35 Million records, and I need to delete about 25
 million
 of those. After deletion I would think that I would need to compress,
 shrink, or otherwise optimize the database. How is that done? do I need
 to
 do it? What commands should I be looking up in the docs?
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
 Chris Hood
 
 



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RE: Compressing after Deletion

2005-03-09 Thread Alec . Cawley
Note that with MySQL, unlike some other databases, you don't have to do 
this. If you are going to add new records to replace the deleted ones, 
MySQL will re-use the space freed by deletions with no special actions on 
your part. Of course, if you are not going to replace the deleted records, 
the commands suggested by David will certainly free space and probably 
improve performance.

Alec Cawley

Logan, David (SST - Adelaide) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/03/2005 
22:58:12:

 Hi Chris,
 
 For MyISAM/BDB tables use OPTIMIZE TABLE your table name;
 For InnoDB tables try ALTER TABLE your table name TYPE=InnoDB;
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2005 9:19 AM
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 Subject: Compressing after Deletion
 
 I have looked in the documentation and either I am not looking for the
 right thing or have simply overlooked it. But my question is this, I
 have
 a database with 35 Million records, and I need to delete about 25
 million
 of those. After deletion I would think that I would need to compress,
 shrink, or otherwise optimize the database. How is that done? do I need
 to
 do it? What commands should I be looking up in the docs?


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Re: Compressing after Deletion

2005-03-09 Thread Eamon Daly
Two more notes, assuming this is a MyISAM table. If this
table sees concurrent inserts (many mixed INSERTs and
SELECTs), you'll definitely want to run an OPTIMIZE TABLE
after your purge. Large numbers of deletes or updates to
variable-length fields will result in free blocks in the
data file, and they'll slow down your INSERTs as MySQL tries
to figure out the best way to fill the holes. That said,
OPTIMIZE TABLE locks the table and rebuilds both the data
file and all of its indexes, so it can be awfully slow.
If you do decide to OPTIMIZE immediately after your deletes,
you can speed the entire process up significantly by using
DELETE QUICK FROM TABLE. This deletes rows but does not
update the table's indexes. Running OPTIMIZE TABLE
immediately thereafter will recreate those indexes for you,
building them from the new, smaller table.
More on MyISAM tables:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/myisam-storage-engine.html
OPTIMIZE TABLE:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/optimize-table.html
DELETE:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/delete.html

Eamon Daly

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Note that with MySQL, unlike some other databases, you don't have to do
this. If you are going to add new records to replace the deleted ones,
MySQL will re-use the space freed by deletions with no special actions on
your part. Of course, if you are not going to replace the deleted records,
the commands suggested by David will certainly free space and probably
improve performance.
   Alec Cawley
Logan, David (SST - Adelaide) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/03/2005
22:58:12:
Hi Chris,
For MyISAM/BDB tables use OPTIMIZE TABLE your table name;
For InnoDB tables try ALTER TABLE your table name TYPE=InnoDB;

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Subject: Compressing after Deletion
I have looked in the documentation and either I am not looking for the
right thing or have simply overlooked it. But my question is this, I
have
a database with 35 Million records, and I need to delete about 25
million
of those. After deletion I would think that I would need to compress,
shrink, or otherwise optimize the database. How is that done? do I need
to
do it? What commands should I be looking up in the docs?

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Compressing after Deletion

2005-03-08 Thread christopher . l . hood
I have looked in the documentation and either I am not looking for the
right thing or have simply overlooked it. But my question is this, I have
a database with 35 Million records, and I need to delete about 25 million
of those. After deletion I would think that I would need to compress,
shrink, or otherwise optimize the database. How is that done? do I need to
do it? What commands should I be looking up in the docs?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Chris Hood



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RE: Compressing after Deletion

2005-03-08 Thread Logan, David (SST - Adelaide)
Hi Chris,

For MyISAM/BDB tables use OPTIMIZE TABLE your table name;
For InnoDB tables try ALTER TABLE your table name TYPE=InnoDB;

Regards

David Logan
Database Administrator
HP Managed Services
148 Frome Street,
Adelaide 5000
Australia

+61 8 8408 4273 - Work
+61 417 268 665 - Mobile
+61 8 8408 4259 - Fax


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2005 9:19 AM
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Subject: Compressing after Deletion

I have looked in the documentation and either I am not looking for the
right thing or have simply overlooked it. But my question is this, I
have
a database with 35 Million records, and I need to delete about 25
million
of those. After deletion I would think that I would need to compress,
shrink, or otherwise optimize the database. How is that done? do I need
to
do it? What commands should I be looking up in the docs?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Chris Hood



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