RE: ER Program
Great work!! I have been digging around for the same thing for awhile and now I can finish a job I had been on. Thanks M;) -Original Message- From: BD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:13 PM To: Ricardo Striquer Soares Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ER Program At 06:21 AM 3/21/2002, you wrote: >i am looking for a ER Design Freeware tool, i'd like to konw if does >someone here knows about something like that, the tool name and, >if possible, the url for download. > >currently i am using a DDT (Database Design Tool) V1.5, however >i think it's too simple with that i can not create indexes, i saw one >named dezign for databases which is a tool indicated by the MySQL AB, >although in it's free version i can only create at last 10 entities and in >each >one i can create about of 10 filds only. > >thanks advanced. Ricardo, I've spent the past month doing the same thing and have come up empty. There aren't any free or low cost case tools out there that work properly. The best one that I've found is Case Studio 2 and to reverse MySQL database it costs $499. It is certainly not cheap, and it won't preserve the data if you regenerate the schema like XCase does. Unfortunately XCase doesn't have a MySQL version. Case Studio eval does let you create a 6 entity diagram so it is useful up to a point. The Dezign eval is severely crippled and is pretty much useless. I looked at a variety of freeware versions and they were quite buggy and the output quality was poor. It appears that the cheaper the case tool, the more screen flashing you have to put up with. The output of the cheap case tools makes it look like it was drawn by a 4 year old. There is also MS Visio Enterprise that supposedly can reverse engineer a MySQL database, but you may need to sell you car in order to purchase it. But after re-reading your message today I went on a scavenger hunt. (I don't give up easy.) Let's see, you want a case tool that will reverse engineer a MySQL database (and other databases too of course like PostgreSQL), draw great looking ER diagrams, have access to your table definitions, produce great looking output that will impress your client, generate your database and even synchronize the changes, have PDF documentation up the wazoo, plus be very easy to use. And oh yes, it has to be free. Hmm. Impossible you say? Try clicking here for your Christmas present: http://download.microsoft.com/download/visio2000enterprise/ORMtool/3.1/WIN98 /EN-US/msvm31.exe . It is VisioModeler from MS and yes, it is free!! (And for you doubters out there, it is NOT an eval copy!) Yes, it is free, it works, it is a legal copy, and it is from MS. Isn't that a double oxymoron or something? I just found VisioModeler a few minutes ago and tried it out. You can use the generic ODBC driver to pull in your MySQL table structure. The look and feel is fantastic and has plenty of options. MS no longer supports it (it is 2 years old), but the readme file does mention a support group. If you intend to synchronize the schema changes with your database, I would use a copy of your database and see if there are any problems first. I don't know about you, but I'm going to spend the weekend documenting my databases. Enjoy! :) Brent _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: ER Program
At 06:21 AM 3/21/2002, you wrote: >i am looking for a ER Design Freeware tool, i'd like to konw if does >someone here knows about something like that, the tool name and, >if possible, the url for download. > >currently i am using a DDT (Database Design Tool) V1.5, however >i think it's too simple with that i can not create indexes, i saw one >named dezign for databases which is a tool indicated by the MySQL AB, >although in it's free version i can only create at last 10 entities and in >each >one i can create about of 10 filds only. > >thanks advanced. Ricardo, I've spent the past month doing the same thing and have come up empty. There aren't any free or low cost case tools out there that work properly. The best one that I've found is Case Studio 2 and to reverse MySQL database it costs $499. It is certainly not cheap, and it won't preserve the data if you regenerate the schema like XCase does. Unfortunately XCase doesn't have a MySQL version. Case Studio eval does let you create a 6 entity diagram so it is useful up to a point. The Dezign eval is severely crippled and is pretty much useless. I looked at a variety of freeware versions and they were quite buggy and the output quality was poor. It appears that the cheaper the case tool, the more screen flashing you have to put up with. The output of the cheap case tools makes it look like it was drawn by a 4 year old. There is also MS Visio Enterprise that supposedly can reverse engineer a MySQL database, but you may need to sell you car in order to purchase it. But after re-reading your message today I went on a scavenger hunt. (I don't give up easy.) Let's see, you want a case tool that will reverse engineer a MySQL database (and other databases too of course like PostgreSQL), draw great looking ER diagrams, have access to your table definitions, produce great looking output that will impress your client, generate your database and even synchronize the changes, have PDF documentation up the wazoo, plus be very easy to use. And oh yes, it has to be free. Hmm. Impossible you say? Try clicking here for your Christmas present: http://download.microsoft.com/download/visio2000enterprise/ORMtool/3.1/WIN98/EN-US/msvm31.exe . It is VisioModeler from MS and yes, it is free!! (And for you doubters out there, it is NOT an eval copy!) Yes, it is free, it works, it is a legal copy, and it is from MS. Isn't that a double oxymoron or something? I just found VisioModeler a few minutes ago and tried it out. You can use the generic ODBC driver to pull in your MySQL table structure. The look and feel is fantastic and has plenty of options. MS no longer supports it (it is 2 years old), but the readme file does mention a support group. If you intend to synchronize the schema changes with your database, I would use a copy of your database and see if there are any problems first. I don't know about you, but I'm going to spend the weekend documenting my databases. Enjoy! :) Brent _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Betr.: ER Program
Try this: Microsoft VisioModeler 3.1 (FREE) on msdn.microsoft.com/downloads jvd >>> "Ricardo Striquer Soares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 21-3-02 13:21:20 >>> i am looking for a ER Design Freeware tool, i'd like to konw if does someone here knows about something like that, the tool name and, if possible, the url for download. currently i am using a DDT (Database Design Tool) V1.5, however i think it's too simple with that i can not create indexes, i saw one named dezign for databases which is a tool indicated by the MySQL AB, although in it's free version i can only create at last 10 entities and in each one i can create about of 10 filds only. thanks advanced. idéias.ual.. Idéias Pontual Desenvolvimento de Software Ltda. Ricardo Striquer Soares CEO e-business Fone: +55 (41) 322-9373 Cel: +55 (41) 9908-3862 Fax: +55 (41) 223-7865 Mr. Lucro : www.mrlucro.com.br _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Re: ER Program
At 15:12 2002-03-21, Bernhard Doebler wrote: >- Original Message - >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Bernhard Doebler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:58 PM >Subject: Re: Re: ER Program >> >> Look out for the Czech Program Case Studio. Looks interesting - but it's hardly freeware... >> >> Regards >> Bernhard >> >> - Original Message -=20 >> From: "Ricardo Striquer Soares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Listas (En) - MySQL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:21 PM >> Subject: ER Program >> >> >> > i am looking for a ER Design Freeware tool, i'd like to konw if does >> > someone here knows about something like that, the tool name and, >> > if possible, the url for download. >> >=20 >> >> > > >- >Before posting, please check: > http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) > http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) > >To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php -- Marjolein Katsma HomeSite Help - http://hshelp.com/ - Extensions, Tips and Tools The Bookstore - http://books.hshelp.com/ - Books for webmasters and webrookies - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Re: ER Program
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bernhard Doebler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Re: ER Program > Your message cannot be posted because it appears to be either spam or > simply off topic to our filter. To bypass the filter you must include > one of the following words in your message: > > sql,query > > If you just reply to this message, and include the entire text of it in the > reply, your reply will go through. However, you should > first review the text of the message to make sure it has something to do > with MySQL. Just typing the word MySQL once will be sufficient, for example. > > You have written the following: > > Look out for the Czech Program Case Studio. > > Regards > Bernhard > > - Original Message -=20 > From: "Ricardo Striquer Soares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Listas (En) - MySQL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 1:21 PM > Subject: ER Program > > > > i am looking for a ER Design Freeware tool, i'd like to konw if does > > someone here knows about something like that, the tool name and, > > if possible, the url for download. > >=20 > > - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
ER Program
i am looking for a ER Design Freeware tool, i'd like to konw if does someone here knows about something like that, the tool name and, if possible, the url for download. currently i am using a DDT (Database Design Tool) V1.5, however i think it's too simple with that i can not create indexes, i saw one named dezign for databases which is a tool indicated by the MySQL AB, although in it's free version i can only create at last 10 entities and in each one i can create about of 10 filds only. thanks advanced. idéias.ual.. Idéias Pontual Desenvolvimento de Software Ltda. Ricardo Striquer Soares CEO e-business Fone: +55 (41) 322-9373 Cel: +55 (41) 9908-3862 Fax: +55 (41) 223-7865 Mr. Lucro : www.mrlucro.com.br _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
