Innobase sold to Oracle ?
Hi MySQL fans, I just read in the news about Innobase being sold to Oracle. Does anybody know whats going on with Innobase and what impact the selling out to Oracle might have on MySQL ? http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/10/12/HNnewmysql_1.html?source=rssurl=http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/10/12/HNnewmysql_1.html http://www.itmedia.co.jp/news/articles/0510/08/news012.html (ja) Best regards Nils Valentin Tokyo / Japan http://www.be-known-online.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Innobase sold to Oracle ?
Hi Valentin, all! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi MySQL fans, I just read in the news about Innobase being sold to Oracle. Correct. Does anybody know whats going on with Innobase and what impact the selling out to Oracle might have on MySQL ? What Oracle will do with Innobase is Oracle's matter, not much use in speculating about that IMO. Impact on MySQL: Very little, if any - see here: http://www.mysql.com/news-and-events/news/article_968.html In other words: MySQL has the rights to use, publish, and support InnoDB as a table handler, and will do so. No change for users. Regards, Jörg -- Joerg Bruehe, Senior Production Engineer MySQL AB, www.mysql.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Innobase sold to Oracle ?
What Oracle will do with Innobase is Oracle's matter, not much use in speculating about that IMO. Sorry, I am going to disagree with that ;-), I am VERY WELL INTERESTED how the environment around Innobase / Innodb will change - and with it any support options and other impacts that might have for our company or any of our customers. I can understand however, if you dont want this to be discussed on this mailing list ;-). Best regards Nils Valentin Tokyo / Japan http://www.be-known-online.com Quoting Joerg Bruehe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Valentin, all! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi MySQL fans, I just read in the news about Innobase being sold to Oracle. Correct. Does anybody know whats going on with Innobase and what impact the selling out to Oracle might have on MySQL ? What Oracle will do with Innobase is Oracle's matter, not much use in speculating about that IMO. Impact on MySQL: Very little, if any - see here: http://www.mysql.com/news-and-events/news/article_968.html In other words: MySQL has the rights to use, publish, and support InnoDB as a table handler, and will do so. No change for users. Regards, J?rg -- Joerg Bruehe, Senior Production Engineer MySQL AB, www.mysql.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Innobase sold to Oracle ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speculating about that IMO. What Oracle will do with Innobase is Oracle's matter, not much use in Sorry, I am going to disagree with that ;-), I am VERY WELL INTERESTED how the environment around Innobase / Innodb will change - and with it any support options and other impacts that might have for our company or any of our customers. I of course cannot speak for MySQL or any of the other affected parties, but I have been very interested in this issue as we have many high-profile clients who are going to start asking the same kinds of questions very soon. As such, I have tried to be on top of this as much as possible and will share what I believe: Short-term, there is no real impact. MySQL and Innobase have an existing contract that runs (approximately - don't know the exact date) through the end of next year. As such, the existing terms will stay in place through then at the minimum. The only potential impact before then would involve the level of participation in Innobase employees with troubleshooting, patching, and new InnoDB features. However, from what I have heard third-hand, Heikki is continuing to assist as before. All in all, I do not believe any MySQL customers have anything to be concerned with before the end of next year. I agree that at this point in time, it is impossible to tell exactly what Oracle may or may not do with InnoDB. The exact terms of the purchase of Innobase have not been disclosed, so it is unknown if they are going to just acquire the rights to InnoDB and send Innobase employees packing, if they are going to employ the Innobase employees, if they are going to continue active development of InnoDB, etc. Any guesses or statements by anyone other than upper management at Oracle is mere speculation. I can come up with a number of possible scenarios, but none of them result in a dead in the water situation for any MySQL customers. Also, there are a number of things MySQL can do to hedge their bets against any decision Oracle may make regarding the future disposition of InnoDB. My advice is to not worry too much about the Oracle situation for now. Give MySQL some time to work through their options and let the MySQL-Oracle relationship do what it may. I have started working on an internal whitepaper to discuss the situation without all the FUD some journalists and some other DB companies (think ANTs) have started throwing around and to present a list of what I believe to be the most likely outcomes based upon what is publicly known and what options exist for MySQL and Oracle to take in this matter. Depending upon what information may be out by then and on whether or not I can get permission from upper management to release this paper into the open, I would be willing to share my analysis openly. I certainly understand the concerns that people have with this development, but it is truly too early to make a knowledgable call - to do so would be akin to speculating the World Series winner on opening day. Cheers, Doug -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Innobase sold to Oracle ?
Hi Doug, Thanks for the reply. That is more or less what I was thinking too. (especially the ANT rant ;-) I would be looking forward to read the paper in case its published one day. Best regards Nils Valentin Tokyo / Japan http://www.be-known-online.com Quoting Douglas K. Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speculating about that IMO. What Oracle will do with Innobase is Oracle's matter, not much use in Sorry, I am going to disagree with that ;-), I am VERY WELL INTERESTED how the environment around Innobase / Innodb will change - and with it any support options and other impacts that might have for our company or any of our customers. I of course cannot speak for MySQL or any of the other affected parties, but I have been very interested in this issue as we have many high-profile clients who are going to start asking the same kinds of questions very soon. As such, I have tried to be on top of this as much as possible and will share what I believe: Short-term, there is no real impact. MySQL and Innobase have an existing contract that runs (approximately - don't know the exact date) through the end of next year. As such, the existing terms will stay in place through then at the minimum. The only potential impact before then would involve the level of participation in Innobase employees with troubleshooting, patching, and new InnoDB features. However, from what I have heard third-hand, Heikki is continuing to assist as before. All in all, I do not believe any MySQL customers have anything to be concerned with before the end of next year. I agree that at this point in time, it is impossible to tell exactly what Oracle may or may not do with InnoDB. The exact terms of the purchase of Innobase have not been disclosed, so it is unknown if they are going to just acquire the rights to InnoDB and send Innobase employees packing, if they are going to employ the Innobase employees, if they are going to continue active development of InnoDB, etc. Any guesses or statements by anyone other than upper management at Oracle is mere speculation. I can come up with a number of possible scenarios, but none of them result in a dead in the water situation for any MySQL customers. Also, there are a number of things MySQL can do to hedge their bets against any decision Oracle may make regarding the future disposition of InnoDB. My advice is to not worry too much about the Oracle situation for now. Give MySQL some time to work through their options and let the MySQL-Oracle relationship do what it may. I have started working on an internal whitepaper to discuss the situation without all the FUD some journalists and some other DB companies (think ANTs) have started throwing around and to present a list of what I believe to be the most likely outcomes based upon what is publicly known and what options exist for MySQL and Oracle to take in this matter. Depending upon what information may be out by then and on whether or not I can get permission from upper management to release this paper into the open, I would be willing to share my analysis openly. I certainly understand the concerns that people have with this development, but it is truly too early to make a knowledgable call - to do so would be akin to speculating the World Series winner on opening day. Cheers, Doug -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
