Re: MySQL security flaws uncovered

2002-12-18 Thread Lenz Grimmer
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Michael Bacarella wrote:

 A good question posted to another list..

  forwarded message follows 

  Several vulnerabilities have been found in the MySQL database system,
  a light database package commonly used in Linux environments but which
  runs also on Microsoft platforms, HP-Unix, Mac OS and more.
  http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-977958.html

 So why no mention on the MySQL.COM site?  That rather bugs me.  In
 contrast, sites for products like Apache or Bind are very clear about
 current/past security issues.

 Is MySQL.COM the wrong place?

No, it was an internal communication problem - this was the first time I
had to handle a security problem and I was not aware, that our PR team did
not catch my internal message about the security vulnerability. We will
send out an announcement today, which will also be put on the web pages.
You can find my initial announcement here:

http://lists.mysql.com/cgi-ez/ezmlm-cgi?2:mss:144:200212:cedhfgmdkobfodelamkh

Sorry for the confusion - next time I hope to get it straight at once.

Bye,
LenZ
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Re: MySQL security flaws uncovered

2002-12-18 Thread Michael She
It's bad for business : )

Maybe they're taking the MS route.


At 12:19 AM 12/18/2002 -0500, Michael Bacarella wrote:

A good question posted to another list..

 forwarded message follows 

 Several vulnerabilities have been found in the MySQL database system, a
 light database package commonly used in Linux environments but which runs
 also on Microsoft platforms, HP-Unix, Mac OS and more.
 http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-977958.html

So why no mention on the MySQL.COM site?  That rather bugs me.  In contrast,
sites for products like Apache or Bind are very clear about current/past
security issues.

Is MySQL.COM the wrong place?

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Re: MySQL security flaws uncovered

2002-12-18 Thread Csongor Fagyal
Michael She wrote:


It's bad for business : )

Maybe they're taking the MS route.


I second this. These vulnerabilities are serious, they must be given 
more attention. Apache, PHP, RedHat and so on and so on are very careful 
with issues like this, all vulnerabilities/exploits are immediately 
published through all possible channels. Yes, it is always a pain to 
find out something like this, obviously the MySQL team just would like 
to forget this once and for all, but doing troublesome 
reinstalls/upgrades and so on is still better then getting our system 
hacked.

- Cs.




At 12:19 AM 12/18/2002 -0500, Michael Bacarella wrote:


A good question posted to another list..

 forwarded message follows 

 Several vulnerabilities have been found in the MySQL database system, a
 light database package commonly used in Linux environments but 
which runs
 also on Microsoft platforms, HP-Unix, Mac OS and more.
 http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-977958.html

So why no mention on the MySQL.COM site?  That rather bugs me.  In 
contrast,
sites for products like Apache or Bind are very clear about current/past
security issues.

Is MySQL.COM the wrong place?






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Re: MySQL security flaws uncovered

2002-12-18 Thread Lenz Grimmer
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Csongor Fagyal wrote:

 Michael She wrote:

  It's bad for business : )
  Maybe they're taking the MS route.

 I second this. These vulnerabilities are serious, they must be given
 more attention. Apache, PHP, RedHat and so on and so on are very careful
 with issues like this, all vulnerabilities/exploits are immediately
 published through all possible channels. Yes, it is always a pain to
 find out something like this, obviously the MySQL team just would like
 to forget this once and for all, but doing troublesome
 reinstalls/upgrades and so on is still better then getting our system
 hacked.

No, this is definately not the case. As I've written in a separate
message, we immediately reacted and released 3.23.54 to resolve this
issue. The security problem was clearly mentioned in the release
announcement that was posted to our announce mailing list:

http://lists.mysql.com/cgi-ez/ezmlm-cgi?2:mss:144:200212:cedhfgmdkobfodelamkh

But I fully agree - in this case the release announcement should have been
put up on the web site as well. This was an error on our side and it will
not happen again.

We will send out another (more public) announcement later today, which
will also be put up on the web pages.

Bye,
LenZ
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RE: MySQL security flaws uncovered

2002-12-18 Thread Adam Nelson
The real problem is the lack of a central knowledgebase.  Is there one
that I'm not aware of?  Even if there is, it should be very obvious off
the front page of the website.

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 From: Csongor Fagyal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:34 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: MySQL security flaws uncovered
 
 
 Michael She wrote:
 
  It's bad for business : )
 
  Maybe they're taking the MS route.
 
 I second this. These vulnerabilities are serious, they must be given 
 more attention. Apache, PHP, RedHat and so on and so on are 
 very careful 
 with issues like this, all vulnerabilities/exploits are immediately 
 published through all possible channels. Yes, it is always a pain to 
 find out something like this, obviously the MySQL team just 
 would like 
 to forget this once and for all, but doing troublesome 
 reinstalls/upgrades and so on is still better then getting our system 
 hacked.
 
 - Cs.
 
 
 
 
  At 12:19 AM 12/18/2002 -0500, Michael Bacarella wrote:
 
  A good question posted to another list..
 
   forwarded message follows 
 
   Several vulnerabilities have been found in the MySQL 
 database system, a
   light database package commonly used in Linux environments but 
  which runs
   also on Microsoft platforms, HP-Unix, Mac OS and more.
   http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-977958.html
 
  So why no mention on the MySQL.COM site?  That rather bugs me.  In 
  contrast,
  sites for products like Apache or Bind are very clear 
 about current/past
  security issues.
 
  Is MySQL.COM the wrong place?
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: MySQL security flaws uncovered

2002-12-18 Thread Stefan Hinz, iConnect \(Berlin\)
Csongor, Michael:

 Maybe they're taking the MS route.

 I second this. These vulnerabilities are serious, they must be given
 more attention. Apache, PHP, RedHat and so on and so on are very careful
 with issues like this, all vulnerabilities/exploits are immediately
 published through all possible channels.

Have a look at the website of the person who uncovered the security flaw:

cite
Vendor Response
03. December 2002 Vendor was contacted by email.
04. December 2002 Vendor informs me that bugs are fixed and that they
started building new packages.
12. December 2002 Vendor has released MySQL 3.23.54 which fixes these
vulnerabilities.
/cite

Doesn't look like the MS way to me. See for yourselves:

http://security.e-matters.de/advisories/042002.html

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From: Csongor Fagyal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: MySQL security flaws uncovered


 Michael She wrote:

  It's bad for business : )
 
  Maybe they're taking the MS route.

 I second this. These vulnerabilities are serious, they must be given
 more attention. Apache, PHP, RedHat and so on and so on are very careful
 with issues like this, all vulnerabilities/exploits are immediately
 published through all possible channels. Yes, it is always a pain to
 find out something like this, obviously the MySQL team just would like
 to forget this once and for all, but doing troublesome
 reinstalls/upgrades and so on is still better then getting our system
 hacked.

 - Cs.

 
 
 
  At 12:19 AM 12/18/2002 -0500, Michael Bacarella wrote:
 
  A good question posted to another list..
 
   forwarded message follows 
 
   Several vulnerabilities have been found in the MySQL database system,
a
   light database package commonly used in Linux environments but
  which runs
   also on Microsoft platforms, HP-Unix, Mac OS and more.
   http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-977958.html
 
  So why no mention on the MySQL.COM site?  That rather bugs me.  In
  contrast,
  sites for products like Apache or Bind are very clear about
current/past
  security issues.
 
  Is MySQL.COM the wrong place?
 


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MySQL security flaws uncovered

2002-12-17 Thread Michael Bacarella
A good question posted to another list..

 forwarded message follows 

 Several vulnerabilities have been found in the MySQL database system, a
 light database package commonly used in Linux environments but which runs
 also on Microsoft platforms, HP-Unix, Mac OS and more.
 http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-977958.html

So why no mention on the MySQL.COM site?  That rather bugs me.  In contrast, 
sites for products like Apache or Bind are very clear about current/past 
security issues.

Is MySQL.COM the wrong place?

-- 
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   | 545 Eighth Ave #401
 Systems Analysis  | New York, NY 10018
Technical Support  | 212 946-1038 | 917 670-6982
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