Re: MySQL vs SQLServer vs PostgresSQL

2001-04-20 Thread William Goedicke

Dear Kevin - 

Kevin Pratt writes:
  
  "IMO - mysql is just a disaster you are inviting on yourself.

Isn't there some line about everyone having an opinion...

  you should see the responses to some recent bug reports ...
  
  We have run load tests ourselves, and postgres performs much the same under
  heavy load as no load, whereas mysql quickly gets slow and then just starts
  erroring out past a certain point.

This is a strange comment.  Ignoring for the moment the relative
advantages or disadvantages of MySQL and Postgres they seem to say
that "heavy load" doesn't impact Postgres' performance.  So if we pin
the CPU by doing random disk reads it doesn't slow down database
functionality?  Come on, that's just silly.

  We have had ihtml/postgres/odbc pooling working well under huge loads
  during our tests, where mysql could not compete at all. Furthermore
  postgres has a far richer set of functionality mysql users can only dream
  about.

The broader feature set of Postgres over MySQL doesn't get a lot of
intelligent rebuttal.  However this is the first time I've ever heard
someone claim that Postgres is faster.  Will you provide some more
detail regarding your "huge loads" and "tests"?

   Yours (curious now) -   Billy

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Re: MySQL vs SQLServer vs PostgresSQL

2001-04-20 Thread Steve Werby

"William Goedicke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The broader feature set of Postgres over MySQL doesn't get a lot of
 intelligent rebuttal.

True.  Fortunately, many web projects don't need triggers, subselects, etc.
(and PostgreSQL is IMHO a little more difficult to manage).  In those cases
speed is probably an important criteria and MySQL is arguably faster.

 However this is the first time I've ever heard
 someone claim that Postgres is faster.

Last summer Tim Perdue posted an article on phpbuilder that compared Postgre
and MySQL and included some testing.  I don't recall any of the details of
the testing, but I do recall that it showed MySQL was faster, but Postgre
could handle more client connections.  See
http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/tim2705.php3.  I haven't seen a
benchmark for speed that Postgre has won, but as Postgre gets faster and
MySQL adds more functionality perhaps the debate over the better RDBMS will
be more interesting.

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Steve Werby
President, Befriend Internet Services LLC
http://www.befriend.com/


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MySQL vs SQLServer vs PostgresSQL

2001-04-19 Thread Kevin Pratt

I have heard mysql is the access for unix... i would like to hear about
comparisons with Mysql SqlServer and PostgresSQL


Kevin


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MySQL vs SQLServer vs PostgresSQL

2001-04-19 Thread William Goedicke

Dear Kevin - 

(I can't resist the obvious quip.)

Kevin Pratt writes:

 I have heard mysql is the access for unix...

Yes, like emacs is the notepad for unix.

 Yours (in gentle jest) -  Billy

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Re: MySQL vs SQLServer vs PostgresSQL

2001-04-19 Thread Kevin Pratt

The reason I asked...
quote from another mail list I am on...

"IMO - mysql is just a disaster you are inviting on yourself.

you should see the responses to some recent bug reports - "we broke it
purposely because it made things faster..."

I looked over the code for the client libraries when we were having
problems with mysql recently - it would be far faster if they just cleaned
some of that mess up and did it correctly. It is very intolerant of a
loaded down system.

We have run load tests ourselves, and postgres performs much the same under
heavy load as no load, whereas mysql quickly gets slow and then just starts
erroring out past a certain point.

If you would run a commercial site with Access, then you'll love unix's
answer to Access - Mysql.

We have had ihtml/postgres/odbc pooling working well under huge loads
during our tests, where mysql could not compete at all. Furthermore
postgres has a far richer set of functionality mysql users can only dream
about.

They are both free so I guess I can't say postgres is better value for the
money :)


You have to install from the command line yes, but generally a fresh unix
install will include postgres if you tick it off during initial install.
Otherwise get an rpm version and it is only a few commands to install it.

The docs for postgres are also excellent for an open source project."

Kevin.
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Subject: MySQL vs SQLServer vs PostgresSQL


 Dear Kevin -

 (I can't resist the obvious quip.)

 Kevin Pratt writes:

  I have heard mysql is the access for unix...

 Yes, like emacs is the notepad for unix.

  Yours (in gentle jest) -Billy

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