RE: How MyISAM handle auto_increment

2011-10-07 Thread Jerry Schwartz
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Subject: RE: How MyISAM handle auto_increment

On Wed, 5 Oct 2011, Jerry Schwartz wrote:

 Can't you use
 CREATE TABLE  LIKE 
 and then reset the auto-increment value?

Thanks. Since when does create table like exist? I was unaware of it,
but I see it exists in mysql 5.1. The tricks I described worked since 3.x
or thereabouts.

[JS] I don't know when it was introduced. I never used anything before 4.0, 
and I don't remember when I first used it that command.

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RE: How MyISAM handle auto_increment

2011-10-06 Thread Lucio Chiappetti

On Wed, 5 Oct 2011, Jerry Schwartz wrote:


Can't you use
CREATE TABLE  LIKE 
and then reset the auto-increment value?


Thanks. Since when does create table like exist? I was unaware of it, 
but I see it exists in mysql 5.1. The tricks I described worked since 3.x 
or thereabouts.


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Re: How MyISAM handle auto_increment

2011-10-05 Thread Lucio Chiappetti

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011, Reindl Harald wrote:


I have questions regarding how MyISAM handles auto_increment clolumn?



it is a table-property and you hould NOT touch it without godd reasons
because it is named AUTO


I guess there are quite often good reasons to change it, which can be
done e.g. as

alter table north33b  auto_increment=21;

I often generate an empty table with the same structure as another table 
with a statement like :


create table  select * from  limit 0;

(at this point I have to recreate also all indices etc. doing a show 
create table  and show create table  and alter table  for 
anything which is missing)


The new table  will have auto increment starting where  ended. 
This is good (assuming  will not grow any more) to preserve an 
UNIQUE sequence for all tables different for each table.


In case one wants  to start at a round number one can just issue an 
alter table and reset auto_increment.


The same if one tests some procedure to populate a new table , then 
deletes everything, and wants that production population restarts from 1.


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Re: How MyISAM handle auto_increment

2011-10-03 Thread mos

At 04:46 PM 10/3/2011, you wrote:
Hi, Folks: I have questions regarding how MyISAM handles 
auto_increment clolumn? 1. is there a auto_increment counter for 
MyISAM to assign a new value to auto_increment columns?


Yes

  2. if MyISAM has the counter, is the counter stored in memory or 
disk? Thnaks


It is stored with the table definition.  It is only reset to 0 when 
the table is (re)created. You can get the last AutoInc for the record 
that was just added by Select Last_Insert_Id(). See 
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/example-auto-increment.html


Mike



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Re: How MyISAM handle auto_increment

2011-10-03 Thread Angela liu
Thanks, what about if mysqld restart, does auto_increment gets reset  ? 

I saw this happened to Innodb, if table is empty and server restart, 
auto_incremnet gets reset to 0



From: mos mo...@fastmail.fm
To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: How  MyISAM handle auto_increment

At 04:46 PM 10/3/2011, you wrote:
 Hi, Folks: I have questions regarding how MyISAM handles auto_increment 
 clolumn? 1. is there a auto_increment counter for MyISAM to assign a new 
 value to auto_increment columns?

Yes

   2. if MyISAM has the counter, is the counter stored in memory or disk? 
Thnaks

It is stored with the table definition.  It is only reset to 0 when the table 
is (re)created. You can get the last AutoInc for the record that was just added 
by Select Last_Insert_Id(). See 
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/example-auto-increment.html

Mike



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Re: How MyISAM handle auto_increment

2011-10-03 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 03.10.2011 23:46, schrieb Angela liu:
 Hi, Folks:
 
 
 I have questions regarding how MyISAM handles auto_increment clolumn?
 
 1. is there a auto_increment counter for MyISAM to assign a new value to 
 auto_increment columns?
 2. if MyISAM has the counter, is the counter stored in memory or disk?

it is a table-property and you hould NOT touch it without godd reasons
because it is named AUTO




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Re: How MyISAM handle auto_increment

2011-10-03 Thread mos

At 06:21 PM 10/3/2011, Angela liu wrote:

Thanks, what about if mysqld restart, does auto_increment gets reset  ?


No. The next auto increment value stays with the table. As another 
person already stated, you should never manually change the auto 
increment value on a table that already has rows in it.  MySQL always 
handles the incrementing of an AutoInc field.



I saw this happened to Innodb, if table is empty and server restart, 
auto_incremnet gets reset to 0


This shouldn't happen unless MySQL crashes.  Perhaps you are 
confusing the next Auto Increment value with the Last_Insert_Id() 
(stored in server memory) which has a value only AFTER the user has 
inserted a row. There can be a hundred connections (each with their 
own session) adding rows to the same table at the same time. 
Last_Insert_Id() will retrieve the autoinc value of the record that 
was just inserted for YOUR session.  You won't get someone else's 
AutoInc value, only the autoinc value for the record that YOU just 
inserted.  So if you insert a record, wait 5 minutes, then execute a 
Select Last_Insert_Id(), you will get the correct autoinc value 
that was used when YOUR record was inserted, even though another 
hundred records were added while you waited to execute the Select 
statement. You can never really reliably know what the autoinc value 
will be for the record you are about to insert until AFTER the record 
has been inserted and you execute Last_Insert_Id() to retrieve this 
autoinc value.


 I hope this clears it up.

Mike




From: mos mo...@fastmail.fm
To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: How MyISAM handle auto_increment

At 04:46 PM 10/3/2011, you wrote:
 Hi, Folks: I have questions regarding how MyISAM handles 
auto_increment clolumn? 1. is there a auto_increment counter for 
MyISAM to assign a new value to auto_increment columns?


Yes

  2. if MyISAM has the counter, is the counter stored in memory or 
disk? Thnaks


It is stored with the table definition.  It is only reset to 0 when 
the table is (re)created. You can get the last AutoInc for the 
record that was just added by Select Last_Insert_Id(). See 
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/example-auto-increment.html


Mike



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