Re: Commercial Licensing Question

2004-10-22 Thread Egor Egorov
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RE: Commercial Licensing Question

2004-10-20 Thread Graham Cossey
http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/commercial-license.html :

With a commercial non-GPL MySQL server license, one license is required per
database server (single installed MySQL binary). There are no restrictions
on the number of connections, number of CPUs, memory or disks to that one
MySQL database server. The MaxDB server is licensed per CPU or named user.

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 From: Sujith Manuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 20 October 2004 07:26
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 Subject: Commercial Licensing Question


 Hi,

 We intend to use MySQL database in one of our commercial
 applications. We would like to know whether we need to buy MySQL
 license for each of our product installations. Or How many
 installations can we make with one commercial license of MySQL database.

 Expecting the reply at the earliest.

 Thanks in advance,
 Sujith Manuel.




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Re: Commercial Licensing Question

2004-10-20 Thread Jigal van Hemert
 We intend to use MySQL database in one of our commercial applications.
 We would like to know whether we need to buy MySQL license for each
 of our product installations. Or How many installations can we make with
 one commercial license of MySQL database.

In general:

The answer you will hear from MySQL AB when you ask them directly is to buy
a commercial license if you are in doubt whether your situation is covered
by the non-commercial license. This way you will also support the
development of the product.

Many on this list read the license as follows: only if you distribute MySQL
with your commercial product you will need a commercial license per server
where the product will be installed. This would mean you don't need a
commercial license for running a MySQL server which is used for commercial
purposes and you don't need a commercial license if your product needs a
MySQL database to function, but MySQL is not distributed by you.

I agree with MySQL AB that it would be nice to buy a license if you make a
lot of money with their product, but the current license seems require a
commercial license only if you distribute MySQL with your commercial
product.

Regards, Jigal.


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Re: Commercial Licensing Question

2004-10-20 Thread mos
Jigal,
but the current license seems require a
commercial license only if you distribute MySQL with your commercial
product.

I'm sorry, but I believe your statement is incorrect. If you distribute an 
application (outside of the GPL) that requires MySQL to run (whether you 
distribute the MySQL engine or not), then the person receiving the 
application needs a commercial MySQL license. It doesn't matter if it is a 
commercial application or a free application, or an application you are 
distributing worldwide or even within your own organization,  or if you are 
distributing MySQL engine with your application or not. If your application 
requires MySQL to run, and you distribute that application outside of the 
GPL, then you need a MySQL license.

Here it is directly from MySQL.Com
http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/
If you distribute a proprietary application in any way, and you are not 
licensing and distributing your source code under GPL, you need to 
purchase a commercial license of MySQL
Mike 

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Re: Commercial Licensing Question

2004-10-20 Thread Jigal van Hemert
From: mos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike,

 but the current license seems require a
 commercial license only if you distribute MySQL with your commercial
 product.
 I'm sorry, but I believe your statement is incorrect. If you distribute an
 application (outside of the GPL) that requires MySQL to run (whether you
 distribute the MySQL engine or not), then the person receiving the
 application needs a commercial MySQL license. It doesn't matter if it is a
 commercial application or a free application, or an application you are
 distributing worldwide or even within your own organization,  or if you
are
 distributing MySQL engine with your application or not. If your
application
 requires MySQL to run, and you distribute that application outside of the
 GPL, then you need a MySQL license.

 Here it is directly from MySQL.Com
 http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/

Hmm.. this page seems to be quite new. I was referring to the old policy and
the discussions on this list about it.
You can find the previous text at
http://web.archive.org/web/20030605155911/www.mysql.com/products/licensing.html

A few quotes:
2. Free use for those who never copy, modify or distribute
As long as you never distribute (internally or externally) the MySQL
Software in any way, you are free to use it for powering your application,
irrespective of whether your application is under GPL or other OSI approved
license or not.

When do you need a commercial license?
More specifically:
a) If you include the MySQL server in your non Open Source application, you
need a commercial licence for the MySQL server
b) If you include one of the MySQL drivers in your non Open Source
application (so that your application can run with MySQL), you need a
commercial licence for the driver(s) in question. The MySQL drivers
currently include an ODBC driver, a JDBC driver and the C language library.

This seems to be a completely different story !?!?

It seems that the license policy has become a lot more strict. It still is
rather unclear to me what happens if you make an application which does not
directly use MySQL or its drivers, but uses a high level language which
includes these drivers? PHP has been given a (free) license for the
inclusion of a MySQL client in the software; does one need a MySQL license
for distributing or using PHP scripts which access a MySQL database?

Regards, Jigal.


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