Re: Converting INNODB to file-per-table?

2011-02-11 Thread Johnny Withers
Dump the entire DB, drop the DB, restore the DB.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Jan Steinman j...@bytesmiths.com wrote:

 Our incremental backups seem to be filling with instances of ib_logfile1,
 ib_logfile2, and ibdata1.

 I know that changing a single byte in a single INNODB table causes these
 files to be touched.

 I put innodb_file_per_table in /etc/my.cnf, but apparently, that only
 causes new databases to be file per table, and it is older databases that
 are being touched in a minor way daily, causing gigabytes to be backed up
 needlessly.

 Some time ago, someone posted a way to convert existing INNODB tables to
 file per table, but I am unable to find that.

 Can someone please post that procedure again?

 (I also welcome any you shouldn't be doing it that way comments, as long
 as they show a better way... :-)

 This is for a fairly low-volume server, running on a Mac Mini with two
 500GB disks.

 Thanks!

 
 In summary, the idea is to give all of the information to help others to
 judge the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to
 judgement in one particular direction or another. -- Richard P. Feynman
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RE: Converting INNODB to file-per-table?

2011-02-11 Thread Rolando Edwards
I wrote an article in www.stackoverflow.com about how to convert absolutely 
every InnoDB table to .ibd and permanently shrink the ibdata1 file 

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3927690/howto-clean-a-mysql-innodb-storage-engine/4056261#4056261

Enjoy !!!

Rolando A. Edwards
MySQL DBA (SCMDBA)

155 Avenue of the Americas, Fifth Floor
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-Original Message-
From: Jan Steinman [mailto:j...@bytesmiths.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 12:53 PM
To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Converting INNODB to file-per-table?

Our incremental backups seem to be filling with instances of ib_logfile1, 
ib_logfile2, and ibdata1.

I know that changing a single byte in a single INNODB table causes these files 
to be touched.

I put innodb_file_per_table in /etc/my.cnf, but apparently, that only causes 
new databases to be file per table, and it is older databases that are being 
touched in a minor way daily, causing gigabytes to be backed up needlessly.

Some time ago, someone posted a way to convert existing INNODB tables to file 
per table, but I am unable to find that.

Can someone please post that procedure again?

(I also welcome any you shouldn't be doing it that way comments, as long as 
they show a better way... :-)

This is for a fairly low-volume server, running on a Mac Mini with two 500GB 
disks.

Thanks!


In summary, the idea is to give all of the information to help others to judge 
the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to 
judgement in one particular direction or another. -- Richard P. Feynman
 Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op 


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Re: Converting INNODB to file-per-table?

2011-02-11 Thread Jan Steinman
Thanks, Rolando!

It's kind of a scary procedure (dump, drop, reload) that involves significant 
down-time, but I guess it's necessary.

On 11 Feb 11, at 10:24, Rolando Edwards wrote:

 I wrote an article in www.stackoverflow.com about how to convert absolutely 
 every InnoDB table to .ibd and permanently shrink the ibdata1 file 
 
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3927690/howto-clean-a-mysql-innodb-storage-engine/4056261#4056261
 
 Enjoy !!!
 
 Rolando A. Edwards
 MySQL DBA (SCMDBA)
 
 155 Avenue of the Americas, Fifth Floor
 New York, NY 10013
 212-625-5307 (Work)
 201-660-3221 (Cell)
 AIM  Skype : RolandoLogicWorx
 redwa...@logicworks.net
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/rolandoedwards
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jan Steinman [mailto:j...@bytesmiths.com] 
 Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 12:53 PM
 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
 Subject: Converting INNODB to file-per-table?
 
 Our incremental backups seem to be filling with instances of ib_logfile1, 
 ib_logfile2, and ibdata1.
 
 I know that changing a single byte in a single INNODB table causes these 
 files to be touched.
 
 I put innodb_file_per_table in /etc/my.cnf, but apparently, that only 
 causes new databases to be file per table, and it is older databases that 
 are being touched in a minor way daily, causing gigabytes to be backed up 
 needlessly.
 
 Some time ago, someone posted a way to convert existing INNODB tables to 
 file per table, but I am unable to find that.
 
 Can someone please post that procedure again?
 
 (I also welcome any you shouldn't be doing it that way comments, as long as 
 they show a better way... :-)
 
 This is for a fairly low-volume server, running on a Mac Mini with two 500GB 
 disks.
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 In summary, the idea is to give all of the information to help others to 
 judge the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to 
 judgement in one particular direction or another. -- Richard P. Feynman
  Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op 
 
 
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Re: Converting INNODB to file-per-table?

2011-02-11 Thread petya

Hi,

You can convert the tables themselves semi-online. Just do
set global innodb_file_per_table=1;
and no a no-operation alter on each table with alter table tablename 
engine=innodb;


Note that the global variable is just a default, the currently connectd 
threads will use the shared tablespace for table data.


You data will be in .ibd files this way, but you can't reclaim space 
used by ibdata1 unless you dump and reload your database.


If you don't do the alter just set innodb_file_per_table on the fly, 
your new data will be in .ibd files.


These are your options, and the best is indeed dump and reload, there is 
no other way to reclaim space from ibdata1, although, there is a way to 
convert your tables to use .ibd files.


Peter Boros

On 02/11/2011 06:49 PM, Jan Steinman wrote:

Thanks, Rolando!

It's kind of a scary procedure (dump, drop, reload) that involves significant 
down-time, but I guess it's necessary.

On 11 Feb 11, at 10:24, Rolando Edwards wrote:


I wrote an article in www.stackoverflow.com about how to convert absolutely 
every InnoDB table to .ibd and permanently shrink the ibdata1 file

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3927690/howto-clean-a-mysql-innodb-storage-engine/4056261#4056261

Enjoy !!!

Rolando A. Edwards
MySQL DBA (SCMDBA)

155 Avenue of the Americas, Fifth Floor
New York, NY 10013
212-625-5307 (Work)
201-660-3221 (Cell)
AIM  Skype : RolandoLogicWorx
redwa...@logicworks.net
http://www.linkedin.com/in/rolandoedwards


-Original Message-
From: Jan Steinman [mailto:j...@bytesmiths.com]
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 12:53 PM
To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Converting INNODB to file-per-table?

Our incremental backups seem to be filling with instances of ib_logfile1, 
ib_logfile2, and ibdata1.

I know that changing a single byte in a single INNODB table causes these files to be 
touched.

I put innodb_file_per_table in /etc/my.cnf, but apparently, that only causes new 
databases to be file per table, and it is older databases that are being touched in a 
minor way daily, causing gigabytes to be backed up needlessly.

Some time ago, someone posted a way to convert existing INNODB tables to file per 
table, but I am unable to find that.

Can someone please post that procedure again?

(I also welcome any you shouldn't be doing it that way comments, as long as 
they show a better way... :-)

This is for a fairly low-volume server, running on a Mac Mini with two 500GB 
disks.

Thanks!


In summary, the idea is to give all of the information to help others to judge 
the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to 
judgement in one particular direction or another. -- Richard P. Feynman
 Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op 


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