Re: Oracle is acquiring...............................
I am little bit worried about the mysql future and me too. Oracle has acquired Innobase and now BDB also. Slowly it is capturing the whole. What is the future of mysql. my future is also related to mysqls future. MySQL should have some thing in their own hands Like Falcon? Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - development tool for MySQL, and more! Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Oracle is acquiring...............................
Like Falcon? Yes, Falcon is a great piece in the MySQL arsenal if you ask me (or probably any MySQL devotee). Cheers, Craig Huffstetler On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 AM, Martijn Tonies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am little bit worried about the mysql future and me too. Oracle has acquired Innobase and now BDB also. Slowly it is capturing the whole. What is the future of mysql. my future is also related to mysqls future. MySQL should have some thing in their own hands Like Falcon? Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - development tool for MySQL, and more! Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Oracle is acquiring...............................
surely mysql would just fork the last gpl innodb release if they got bummed by oracle... --- Martijn Tonies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am little bit worried about the mysql future and me too. Oracle has acquired Innobase and now BDB also. Slowly it is capturing the whole. What is the future of mysql. my future is also related to mysqls future. MySQL should have some thing in their own hands Like Falcon? Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - development tool for MySQL, and more! Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Glyn Astill ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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surely mysql would just fork the last gpl innodb release if they got bummed by oracle... I doubt if they can -- from the InnoDB website: The GPLv2 License The GNU General Public License version 2, under which both MySQL and InnoDB are published, does not allow, without permission from MySQL AB and Innobase Oy, linking of InnoDB and MySQL, or the client libraries of MySQL, to a product which you distribute but which does not itself satisfy the GNU GPLv2 license. So if Innobase doesn't grant MySQL permission, they have no leg to stand on. Either way, I think Falcon is the future if you want to stay with MySQL only, other options are available if you want to go 3rd party... Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - development tool for MySQL, and more! Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Oracle is acquiring...............................
What is the reason for Oracle to detain Mysql Features like BDB, INNODB...? Is there any Hidden Market strategies for that Thanks Regards , Dhandapani S -Original Message- From: Martijn Tonies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:41 PM To: MySql Subject: Re: Oracle is acquiring... surely mysql would just fork the last gpl innodb release if they got bummed by oracle... I doubt if they can -- from the InnoDB website: The GPLv2 License The GNU General Public License version 2, under which both MySQL and InnoDB are published, does not allow, without permission from MySQL AB and Innobase Oy, linking of InnoDB and MySQL, or the client libraries of MySQL, to a product which you distribute but which does not itself satisfy the GNU GPLv2 license. So if Innobase doesn't grant MySQL permission, they have no leg to stand on. Either way, I think Falcon is the future if you want to stay with MySQL only, other options are available if you want to go 3rd party... Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - development tool for MySQL, and more! Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Oracle is acquiring...............................
What is the reason for Oracle to detain Mysql Features like BDB, INNODB...? Is there any Hidden Market strategies for that Who knows, but Oracle? Either way, given that MySQL isn't free and thus InnoDB isn't free, there's money in it. Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - development tool for MySQL, and more! Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I wouldn't say the Sleepycat/BDB acquisition had anything to do with MySQL. BDB is much more useful *outside* of MySQL, and has a much bigger market there anyway. The BDB storage engine is all but useless. As for Innobase/InnoDB, their motives are still unclear. :) Regards, Jeremy Shanmugam, Dhandapani wrote: What is the reason for Oracle to detain Mysql Features like BDB, INNODB...? Is there any Hidden Market strategies for that Thanks Regards , Dhandapani S -Original Message- From: Martijn Tonies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:41 PM To: MySql Subject: Re: Oracle is acquiring... surely mysql would just fork the last gpl innodb release if they got bummed by oracle... I doubt if they can -- from the InnoDB website: The GPLv2 License The GNU General Public License version 2, under which both MySQL and InnoDB are published, does not allow, without permission from MySQL AB and Innobase Oy, linking of InnoDB and MySQL, or the client libraries of MySQL, to a product which you distribute but which does not itself satisfy the GNU GPLv2 license. So if Innobase doesn't grant MySQL permission, they have no leg to stand on. Either way, I think Falcon is the future if you want to stay with MySQL only, other options are available if you want to go 3rd party... Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - development tool for MySQL, and more! Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- high performance mysql consulting www.provenscaling.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Oracle is acquiring...............................
Hi all, Wow, the rumors were true. Oracle is snapping up Open Source Database companies now. First it was Innobase (see Oracle buys Innobase. MySQL between rock and hard place?) and now it's Sleepycat Software. The purchase of Sleepycat, which has been rumored for weeks, gives Oracle another open-source product to complement its proprietary database offerings. At an investor conference last week, Oracle CEO Larry Ellison reiterated the company's strategy to generate revenue from a combination of open-source and proprietary software. They produce and support the famed Berkeley DB embedded database engine and have radically improved it's features since the version 1.x days. Nowadays you get a small, fast, transactional database engine with industrial grade reliability and replication. Dilip -Original Message- From: Jeremy Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Cole Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:15 PM To: Shanmugam, Dhandapani Cc: Martijn Tonies; MySql Subject: Re: Oracle is acquiring... Hi, I wouldn't say the Sleepycat/BDB acquisition had anything to do with MySQL. BDB is much more useful *outside* of MySQL, and has a much bigger market there anyway. The BDB storage engine is all but useless. As for Innobase/InnoDB, their motives are still unclear. :) Regards, Jeremy Shanmugam, Dhandapani wrote: What is the reason for Oracle to detain Mysql Features like BDB, INNODB...? Is there any Hidden Market strategies for that Thanks Regards , Dhandapani S -Original Message- From: Martijn Tonies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:41 PM To: MySql Subject: Re: Oracle is acquiring... surely mysql would just fork the last gpl innodb release if they got bummed by oracle... I doubt if they can -- from the InnoDB website: The GPLv2 License The GNU General Public License version 2, under which both MySQL and InnoDB are published, does not allow, without permission from MySQL AB and Innobase Oy, linking of InnoDB and MySQL, or the client libraries of MySQL, to a product which you distribute but which does not itself satisfy the GNU GPLv2 license. So if Innobase doesn't grant MySQL permission, they have no leg to stand on. Either way, I think Falcon is the future if you want to stay with MySQL only, other options are available if you want to go 3rd party... Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - development tool for MySQL, and more! Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- high performance mysql consulting www.provenscaling.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Oracle is acquiring...............................
Does all these reasons brings oracle massive on Global market.. compared to other databases...? Thanks Regards , Dhandapani S -Original Message- From: Parikh, Dilip Kumar Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:03 AM To: Jeremy Cole; Shanmugam, Dhandapani Cc: Martijn Tonies; MySql Subject: RE: Oracle is acquiring... Hi all, Wow, the rumors were true. Oracle is snapping up Open Source Database companies now. First it was Innobase (see Oracle buys Innobase. MySQL between rock and hard place?) and now it's Sleepycat Software. The purchase of Sleepycat, which has been rumored for weeks, gives Oracle another open-source product to complement its proprietary database offerings. At an investor conference last week, Oracle CEO Larry Ellison reiterated the company's strategy to generate revenue from a combination of open-source and proprietary software. They produce and support the famed Berkeley DB embedded database engine and have radically improved it's features since the version 1.x days. Nowadays you get a small, fast, transactional database engine with industrial grade reliability and replication. Dilip -Original Message- From: Jeremy Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Cole Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:15 PM To: Shanmugam, Dhandapani Cc: Martijn Tonies; MySql Subject: Re: Oracle is acquiring... Hi, I wouldn't say the Sleepycat/BDB acquisition had anything to do with MySQL. BDB is much more useful *outside* of MySQL, and has a much bigger market there anyway. The BDB storage engine is all but useless. As for Innobase/InnoDB, their motives are still unclear. :) Regards, Jeremy Shanmugam, Dhandapani wrote: What is the reason for Oracle to detain Mysql Features like BDB, INNODB...? Is there any Hidden Market strategies for that Thanks Regards , Dhandapani S -Original Message- From: Martijn Tonies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:41 PM To: MySql Subject: Re: Oracle is acquiring... surely mysql would just fork the last gpl innodb release if they got bummed by oracle... I doubt if they can -- from the InnoDB website: The GPLv2 License The GNU General Public License version 2, under which both MySQL and InnoDB are published, does not allow, without permission from MySQL AB and Innobase Oy, linking of InnoDB and MySQL, or the client libraries of MySQL, to a product which you distribute but which does not itself satisfy the GNU GPLv2 license. So if Innobase doesn't grant MySQL permission, they have no leg to stand on. Either way, I think Falcon is the future if you want to stay with MySQL only, other options are available if you want to go 3rd party... Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - development tool for MySQL, and more! Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- high performance mysql consulting www.provenscaling.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Oracle is acquiring...............................
Yup But it has come up with new features like Oracle's Berkeley DB 4.5 is a replication framework .etc. Dilip -Original Message- From: Jimmy G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:13 AM To: Parikh, Dilip Kumar Cc: Jeremy Cole; Shanmugam, Dhandapani; Martijn Tonies; MySql Subject: Re: Oracle is acquiring... Hello, This shouldn't come as anything shocking to regular readers of this list. Oracle picked up Sleepycat back in Feb of 2006. http://www.oracle.com/corporate/press/2006_feb/sleepycat.html Well past the rumor stage at this point :) -- Jimmy Parikh, Dilip Kumar wrote: Hi all, Wow, the rumors were true. Oracle is snapping up Open Source Database companies now. First it was Innobase (see Oracle buys Innobase. MySQL between rock and hard place?) and now it's Sleepycat Software. The purchase of Sleepycat, which has been rumored for weeks, gives Oracle another open-source product to complement its proprietary database offerings. At an investor conference last week, Oracle CEO Larry Ellison reiterated the company's strategy to generate revenue from a combination of open-source and proprietary software. They produce and support the famed Berkeley DB embedded database engine and have radically improved it's features since the version 1.x days. Nowadays you get a small, fast, transactional database engine with industrial grade reliability and replication. Dilip -Original Message- From: Jeremy Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Cole Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 11:15 PM To: Shanmugam, Dhandapani Cc: Martijn Tonies; MySql Subject: Re: Oracle is acquiring... Hi, I wouldn't say the Sleepycat/BDB acquisition had anything to do with MySQL. BDB is much more useful *outside* of MySQL, and has a much bigger market there anyway. The BDB storage engine is all but useless. As for Innobase/InnoDB, their motives are still unclear. :) Regards, Jeremy Shanmugam, Dhandapani wrote: What is the reason for Oracle to detain Mysql Features like BDB, INNODB...? Is there any Hidden Market strategies for that Thanks Regards , Dhandapani S -Original Message- From: Martijn Tonies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:41 PM To: MySql Subject: Re: Oracle is acquiring... surely mysql would just fork the last gpl innodb release if they got bummed by oracle... I doubt if they can -- from the InnoDB website: The GPLv2 License The GNU General Public License version 2, under which both MySQL and InnoDB are published, does not allow, without permission from MySQL AB and Innobase Oy, linking of InnoDB and MySQL, or the client libraries of MySQL, to a product which you distribute but which does not itself satisfy the GNU GPLv2 license. So if Innobase doesn't grant MySQL permission, they have no leg to stand on. Either way, I think Falcon is the future if you want to stay with MySQL only, other options are available if you want to go 3rd party... Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - development tool for MySQL, and more! Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- high performance mysql consulting www.provenscaling.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Oracle is acquiring...............................
At 07:26 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: Like Falcon? Yes, Falcon is a great piece in the MySQL arsenal if you ask me (or probably any MySQL devotee). Craig, I have my doubts about Falcon replacing InnoDb. I don't think it will be fast enough to handle a lot of users. As to why is Oracle buying InnoDb and BDB? I think it is because Larry Ellison is a true humanitarian who would like to share some of his wealth with the Open Source community (including MySQL) who have been overworked and under funded for years. cough cough :) Mike Cheers, Craig Huffstetler On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 AM, Martijn Tonies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am little bit worried about the mysql future and me too. Oracle has acquired Innobase and now BDB also. Slowly it is capturing the whole. What is the future of mysql. my future is also related to mysqls future. MySQL should have some thing in their own hands Like Falcon? Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - development tool for MySQL, and more! Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
