Re: Thinking of switching from MyISAM to InnoDB

2001-08-04 Thread ryc

If you want a MyISAM table to grow larger than 4GB you have to do

alter table tablename max_rows=1

or maybe its 'maxrows'...

Once you do that, you will be able to stuff the table as full as the OS will
let you.

Innobase will allow you to get around this by making a bunch of smaller
files to create a larger table space... but keep in mind the max size for a
blob is 4GB.. (yah that is pretty damn huge tho heh). Im not sure what the
max size for a MyISAM blob is.

Hope this helps.

ryan

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From: "Nick Seidenman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Thinking of switching from MyISAM to InnoDB


> On Saturday 04 August 2001 09:25, Sinisa Milivojevic wrote:
>
> > Nick Seidenman writes:
> > > Apparentlly there's a 4 GB limit to a MyISAM file when the table it
> > > contains has VARCHAR, TEXT, or BLOB columns.  In order to get around
this
> >
> > There is no 4 Gb limit in MyISAM with later 3.23 versions.
>
> I an running version 3.23.32.
>
> > This limit is imposed by a filesystem only.
>
> Don't think so.  When I do a SHOW TABLE STATUS I have several tables that
are
> well in excess of 4 GB (2^32-1), as well as those that show exactly 4GB.
The
> difference is that the larger tables are of fixed type while the smaller
ones
> are of dynamic type.  It is one of the dynamic tables that repeatedly runs
> into space problems.  This one happens to have a TEXT column in it the
values
> for which can be (and often are) in excess of 2 KB.
>
> 
>  Nick Seidenman, CISSP
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RE: Thinking of switching from MyISAM to InnoDB

2001-08-04 Thread Chris Cameron

Is there a place that outlines the advantages/disadvantages of both
MyISAM and InnoDB?

Thanks,
Chris

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On 04 Aug 2001 16:25:14 +0300, Sinisa Milivojevic wrote:

> There is no 4 Gb limit in MyISAM with later 3.23 versions.
>
> This limit is imposed by a filesystem only.


and RAIDed table can help to build aby size tables if only index
file doesn't get too big.

Actually InnoDB is nice thing. Just bith MyISAM and InnoDB have good
advantages and you should decide, which ones you need more.

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Re: Thinking of switching from MyISAM to InnoDB

2001-08-04 Thread Tonu Samuel

On 04 Aug 2001 16:25:14 +0300, Sinisa Milivojevic wrote:

> There is no 4 Gb limit in MyISAM with later 3.23 versions.
> 
> This limit is imposed by a filesystem only.


and RAIDed table can help to build aby size tables if only index
file doesn't get too big. 

Actually InnoDB is nice thing. Just bith MyISAM and InnoDB have good
advantages and you should decide, which ones you need more.

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Re: Thinking of switching from MyISAM to InnoDB

2001-08-04 Thread Jeremy Zawodny

On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 09:15:52AM -0500, Gerald R. Jensen wrote:
> 
> To the best of my knowledge, MySQL doesn't impose file size limits
> ... that is dictated by the O/S's file system. Switching to InnoDB
> wouldn't change that.

But InnoDB would let you use multiple tablespaces to get around any
such limitation.

In this case, however, that's probably not the problem anyway.

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Re: Thinking of switching from MyISAM to InnoDB

2001-08-04 Thread Nick Seidenman

On Saturday 04 August 2001 09:25, Sinisa Milivojevic wrote:

> Nick Seidenman writes:
> > Apparentlly there's a 4 GB limit to a MyISAM file when the table it
> > contains has VARCHAR, TEXT, or BLOB columns.  In order to get around this
>
> There is no 4 Gb limit in MyISAM with later 3.23 versions.

I an running version 3.23.32.

> This limit is imposed by a filesystem only.

Don't think so.  When I do a SHOW TABLE STATUS I have several tables that are 
well in excess of 4 GB (2^32-1), as well as those that show exactly 4GB.  The 
difference is that the larger tables are of fixed type while the smaller ones 
are of dynamic type.  It is one of the dynamic tables that repeatedly runs 
into space problems.  This one happens to have a TEXT column in it the values 
for which can be (and often are) in excess of 2 KB.

  
 Nick Seidenman, CISSP  
 Director of Software Development  
 Hyperon, Inc.  
 www.hyperon.com

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Re: Thinking of switching from MyISAM to InnoDB

2001-08-04 Thread Gerald R. Jensen

Nick:

What O/S are you running ... Windows?

To the best of my knowledge, MySQL doesn't impose file size limits ... that
is dictated by the O/S's file system. Switching to InnoDB wouldn't change
that.

Gerald Jensen

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Apparentlly there's a 4 GB limit to a MyISAM file when the table it contains
has VARCHAR, TEXT, or BLOB columns.  In order to get around this limitation
I
was looking to switching to InnoDB table types.  As this looks like a
relatively new subsystem I'm wondering if it is stable enough for production
systems, or is it still too new (and too "feature-prone".)  I'd appreciate
hearing feedback on this.  If I do wind up switching, it won't be for at
least a month.

TiA,

nick


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Re: Thinking of switching from MyISAM to InnoDB

2001-08-04 Thread Sinisa Milivojevic

Nick Seidenman writes:
> 
> Apparentlly there's a 4 GB limit to a MyISAM file when the table it contains 
> has VARCHAR, TEXT, or BLOB columns.  In order to get around this limitation I 
> was looking to switching to InnoDB table types.  As this looks like a 
> relatively new subsystem I'm wondering if it is stable enough for production 
> systems, or is it still too new (and too "feature-prone".)  I'd appreciate 
> hearing feedback on this.  If I do wind up switching, it won't be for at 
> least a month.
> 
> TiA,
> 
> nick
>  
>   
>  Nick Seidenman, CISSP  
>  Director of Software Development  
>  Hyperon, Inc.  
>  www.hyperon.com

There is no 4 Gb limit in MyISAM with later 3.23 versions.

This limit is imposed by a filesystem only.

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Thinking of switching from MyISAM to InnoDB

2001-08-03 Thread Nick Seidenman


Apparentlly there's a 4 GB limit to a MyISAM file when the table it contains 
has VARCHAR, TEXT, or BLOB columns.  In order to get around this limitation I 
was looking to switching to InnoDB table types.  As this looks like a 
relatively new subsystem I'm wondering if it is stable enough for production 
systems, or is it still too new (and too "feature-prone".)  I'd appreciate 
hearing feedback on this.  If I do wind up switching, it won't be for at 
least a month.

TiA,

nick
 
  
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