Re: intro mysql book

2001-09-16 Thread Robert Cross



another oracle dba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can someone recommend an intro MySQL book. I'm looking for a
 book with info on MySQL

Like you I too have come from an Oracle background to Mysql. Two main
sources of information as far as I'm concerned:

1.   The MySQL manual that comes with the source install, (also available
on the site). I've got the HTML version readily accessible
on the servers that are running MySQL. If it was multiple page HTML rather
than a single file it'd be great.

2.   MySQL by Paul DuBois. Like I've said on AmazonUK, I regard this as
being the 'Kernighan and Ritchie' of MySQL. It's well written,
reasonable concise, easy to follow and pretty good value-for-money. I could
do without the chapters on installation and the API's myself,
(I prefer to use the online manual as books tend to date in these areas
fast), but I can see a use for them, (maybe less of the installation
please in the revision for MySQL4.0 please Mr Dubois?).

As an aside I also found 'PHP and MySQL' and 'SQL in a nutshell' (O'Reilly)
quite useful. The Nutshell book is quite nice if you are an experienced
code warrior with one of the other implementations of SQL.

Just my random meanderings

Bob Cross
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intro mysql book

2001-09-15 Thread rjtalbo

Subject:
  intro mysql book
  Date:   Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:18:29 -0700 (PDT)
  From:   another oracle dba [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Can someone recommend an intro MySQL book. I'm looking for a
book with info on MySQL
**

Your instincts are good. I found the Paul Dubois'  book an excellent
choice.
I am at the same point you are at  learning Mysql AND Transitioning
from other SQL enviorments. I have , for many years used DB2 and Sybase.

The books that have helped me are:
 MySQL By P Dubois.. ( Best Single MySQL Refrence)
 Teach Yourself MySQL in 21 Days ...SAMS..by Maslakowski.. (Takes you
from Ignorant to Working Project).
 SQL In A Nutshell ..O'Reilly by Kline  Kline.. Most SQL commands w/
examples in MySQL, Oracle
PostgreSQL, SQL Server.. For each command  Great for
Transition!
  Mysql/PHP Database Applications  MT Books by Greenspan and Bulger
..You will understand the Marriage.

Good luck

Bob T



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Re: intro mysql book

2001-09-15 Thread Deryck Henson

Other than the manual, Sam's Teach Yourself MySQL in 21 Days is a great
book.

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 Subject:
   intro mysql book
   Date:   Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:18:29 -0700 (PDT)
   From:   another oracle dba [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Can someone recommend an intro MySQL book. I'm looking for a
 book with info on MySQL
 **

 Your instincts are good. I found the Paul Dubois'  book an excellent
 choice.
 I am at the same point you are at  learning Mysql AND Transitioning
 from other SQL enviorments. I have , for many years used DB2 and Sybase.

 The books that have helped me are:
  MySQL By P Dubois.. ( Best Single MySQL Refrence)
  Teach Yourself MySQL in 21 Days ...SAMS..by Maslakowski.. (Takes you
 from Ignorant to Working Project).
  SQL In A Nutshell ..O'Reilly by Kline  Kline.. Most SQL commands w/
 examples in MySQL, Oracle
 PostgreSQL, SQL Server.. For each command  Great for
 Transition!
   Mysql/PHP Database Applications  MT Books by Greenspan and Bulger
 ..You will understand the Marriage.

 Good luck

 Bob T



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Re: intro mysql book

2001-09-15 Thread jim barchuk

Hello All!

 Can someone recommend an intro MySQL book. I'm looking for a
 book with info on MySQL

Yes, as others have said, the Paul Dubois book is -excellent.-

  Teach Yourself MySQL in 21 Days ...SAMS..by Maslakowski.. (Takes you
 from Ignorant to Working Project).

Avoid it like the PLAGUE.

A 'printed disaster'.

I've been reading tech books for 25 years and have *never* before seen
such a poor piece of work.

Have I made my point? :) No? Read on!

The sample perl is -wrong-. The scripts flat out -fail- -wc compilation.
As printed it simply literally does not work. The CD does not match the
book, and -both- are -wrong-.

The sample HTML *was* literally copy/pasted from FrontPage (meta
name=GENERATOR content=Microsoft FrontPage 4.0). Totally -filled-
with font and width foolishness that takes twice as much printed space as
necessary and that I had to -squint- through to figure out what was
supposed to be going on.

Other comments I sent to the author:



  (The HTML on the CD was, as gently as I can put it, fairly hysterical. :)
  The idea of a few lines of INPUT... TEXT... with no FORM /FORM tags just
  broke me up. :) But that was less important to me because I know enough
  about HTML to easily figure it out, and the book was far more correct in
  those aspects.)
 
  The more serious problems for the SQL-newbie start with Listing 21-2 on
  page 406, AddCustomer.pl. There is a 'my $dbh' line, and several 'do'
  lines. But a few lines down there are several '$dbi-do' lines. There is
  no 'my $dbh', and I don't know exactly what kind of line to add for that.

Bear in mind that I'm reading that as a raw virgin newbie. I spent -hours-
trying to figure out what I was doing wrong.

  At this point I -KNOW- I am reading untested software. Some errors I
  figured out, but the most -important- aspects of this script, the GRANTs,
  is totally uncommented, and I can't get it to run at all, just lots of
  lines of errors in the server logs that I won't bother including here.
 
  There is a line that says '# Create the user in the MySQL database', but
  there is no reference to -opening- the mysql.user database, that I 'think'
  should be there. I think that's where the my-dbi should be.
 
  Then there's the 'print Location:' line that references 'CustomerAdd.html'
  that as far as I cn see does not exist, and I can't quite guess what it's
  supposed to mean. That \nURI at the end of the line sure looks weird, not
  the way I've ever used Location. And this appears to be not the correct
  use of Location. The 'print Location' should be the -last- thing sent to
  the user, after which the script should end. The client will -not- receive
  anything sent after that.

Yes, the line says literally (wrapped):

print Location: http://CustomerAdd.html\nURI:
http://CustomerAdd.html\n\n; ;

  There's a line on page 396, 'Quantity INT, NOT NULL,' clearly an error
  showing that this is untested. I seem to recall other minor errors but
  can't find any at a quick glance.



No errata has ever been posted to samspublishing.com even though I was
told a year ago that it'd ready 'in a few days.'. I will obviously never
buy another Sams book either.

Check the author's info at http://www.samspublishing.com/authors_sams.cfm.
Not there? Oh.

Biggest waste of $40 and hours or reading I ever spent in my life.

Nuff said?

To be fair, I did learn how to create a database,  import some data, log
in to the server, and do a few simple queries. But that's it.

Have a :) day!

jb

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intro mysql book

2001-09-14 Thread another oracle dba


Can someone recommend an intro MySQL book. I'm looking for a
book with info on MySQL internals from the dba standpoint
as well as usage from a developer standpoint. I'm going to 
take a look at MySQL by Paul Dubois. It seems to have good
reviews, but would be interested in other recommendations.

thanks

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