new MySQL Server

2003-09-20 Thread Jon Miller

I would like to get a viewpoint from the members on the following:
1) the amount of $$$ is NOT a consideration

Looking at building a MySQL server to handle in-house critical work.  Web =
page data is generated from the database plus constant inputting of data =
and calculation.

Application to be run:
Red Hat 9.0
PHP4
MySQL 4
Apache 2
SSH

I'm looking at the following:
1) IDE RAID5 with 4 x 120GB drives 7200RPM ATA100
2) Sony CDT or AIT tapebackup
3) 2 x 10/100/1000 Intel NIC
4) Intel P4 3GHz CPU
5) 2GB PC3200 ECC Memory

Motherboard consists of the following:
Socket 478 Intel=AE Pentium=AE 4/Celeron=AE NetBurst
4 x DDR SDRAM PC3200 ECC Registered, 4GB max.
5 PCI, 1 AGP 8x (1.5v only)
Highpoint HPT374 UDMA/ATA 133 RAID
Broadcom BCM5705 Gigabit Ethernet
ATX

Now I've worked with the Broadcom NIC and that works great, but I have not =
worked with a Highpoint RAID card. Does anyone have good and /or bad =
experiences with this card or should I buy a separate card?

My other option is to go with a SCSI system using a Adaptec RAID card, =
etc.


Jon L. Miller, MCNE, CNS
Director/Sr Systems Consultant
MMT Networks Pty Ltd
http://www.mmtnetworks.com.au

I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure
 is trying to please everybody. -Bill Cosby





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Re: new MySQL Server

2003-09-20 Thread Dan Anderson
I believe I saw something in the mySQL manual about going with a 64 bit
system if it was an option because mySQL uses lots of 64 bit data
types.  So you will see a significant increase in speed with 64 bits
versus 32. :: drools at though of Apple w/ 8GB RAM ::  :-D

-Dan

On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 08:11, Jon Miller wrote:
 I would like to get a viewpoint from the members on the following:
 1) the amount of $$$ is NOT a consideration
 
 Looking at building a MySQL server to handle in-house critical work.  Web =
 page data is generated from the database plus constant inputting of data =
 and calculation.
 
 Application to be run:
 Red Hat 9.0
 PHP4
 MySQL 4
 Apache 2
 SSH
 
 I'm looking at the following:
 1) IDE RAID5 with 4 x 120GB drives 7200RPM ATA100
 2) Sony CDT or AIT tapebackup
 3) 2 x 10/100/1000 Intel NIC
 4) Intel P4 3GHz CPU
 5) 2GB PC3200 ECC Memory
 
 Motherboard consists of the following:
 Socket 478 Intel=AE Pentium=AE 4/Celeron=AE NetBurst
 4 x DDR SDRAM PC3200 ECC Registered, 4GB max.
 5 PCI, 1 AGP 8x (1.5v only)
 Highpoint HPT374 UDMA/ATA 133 RAID
 Broadcom BCM5705 Gigabit Ethernet
 ATX
 
 Now I've worked with the Broadcom NIC and that works great, but I have not =
 worked with a Highpoint RAID card. Does anyone have good and /or bad =
 experiences with this card or should I buy a separate card?
 
 My other option is to go with a SCSI system using a Adaptec RAID card, =
 etc.
 
 
 Jon L. Miller, MCNE, CNS
 Director/Sr Systems Consultant
 MMT Networks Pty Ltd
 http://www.mmtnetworks.com.au
 
 I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure
  is trying to please everybody. -Bill Cosby
 
 
 
 


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Help with spec-ing new MySQL server

2002-07-17 Thread John D Siirola

Hello,

I have been asked to spec out a new computer that will act as a
dedicated MySQL server for a research cluster (running under RH
Linux).  To do that, I am trying to find information on the
performance trade-offs between multiple processors (2 vs 4), the disk
system (IDE vs SCSI; single vs RAID), and the memory system (1 GB, 2
GB, 2 GB).  Specifically, is there a point above which you
(typically) don't see a significant improvement?  Is there a
rational upper limit to the amount of physical memory that MySQL can
effectively use or benefit from?  Does an IDE RAID system
significantly improve the database performance?  Does SCSI RAID
significantly outperform IDE?  Should we concentrate on a system with
an enormous amount of memory, or a very fast disk system?

Based on current usage, I am expecting the database load to float
around 200-400 simultaneous connections to a small number of databases
(1-10).  Each database will have several tables with a couple hundred
thousand records each (each table will float between a MB and a GB).

Thanks for any input,

john
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john Siirola
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
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RE: Help with spec-ing new MySQL server

2002-07-17 Thread Cal Evans

John,

Going off the top of my head and what you posted I would suggest a dual
processor machine with at least 1 GB of RAM. (Make sure you compile MySQL
with threads) SCSI is going to be much faster than IDE. If this is a
production machine I would highly recommend SCSI.  Finally, I would
recommend RAID 0+1 (Striped and mirrored) As that gives you the best overall
combination of performance in a database server.

If you have to start cutting then you could drop the RAID and one processor
and still have a well-performing machine. Next thing you need to think about
is how to configure MySQL.  Give it as much RAM as you can. If you are using
InnoDB tables then check out http://www.innodb.com/ibman.html#InnoDB_tuning
for more suggestions. They used to have several versions of my.cnf
suggestions (small, medium and large) but I can't seem to find them anymore.

HTH,
=C=

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* Cal Evans
* The Virtual CIO
* http://www.calevans.com
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Hello,

I have been asked to spec out a new computer that will act as a
dedicated MySQL server for a research cluster (running under RH
Linux).  To do that, I am trying to find information on the
performance trade-offs between multiple processors (2 vs 4), the disk
system (IDE vs SCSI; single vs RAID), and the memory system (1 GB, 2
GB, 2 GB).  Specifically, is there a point above which you
(typically) don't see a significant improvement?  Is there a
rational upper limit to the amount of physical memory that MySQL can
effectively use or benefit from?  Does an IDE RAID system
significantly improve the database performance?  Does SCSI RAID
significantly outperform IDE?  Should we concentrate on a system with
an enormous amount of memory, or a very fast disk system?

Based on current usage, I am expecting the database load to float
around 200-400 simultaneous connections to a small number of databases
(1-10).  Each database will have several tables with a couple hundred
thousand records each (each table will float between a MB and a GB).

Thanks for any input,

john
-
john Siirola
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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