Re: taxes
Unless you have a physical location in that state! If you are in a state where Dell has a location you must pay that state's sales tax. Hey Vivek do you ever sleep! :) Ken - Ken Menzel ICQ# 9325188 www.icarz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Vivek Khera" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:26 PM Subject: Re: taxes "MK" == Mikel King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MK guys I think you are making this a way bigger problem than it MK really is...e-merce crap is generally taxed based on the location MK of the vendor; much the same way in which mail order businesses MK are taxed. You really only have to worry about the state/locality What world (or country) do you live in? When was the last time you ordered something from Dell or Apple on line? What tax rate did you pay? You pay your local rate; not the rate of the location of the store. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: taxes
Ran into an interesting twist on "presence" in a state. One client went
to a trade show in Nevada. She was informed that for the next quarter
she would have to consider herself "in" Nevada, even though she did not
sell anyting at the show. I don't think she is going back.
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Mike Wexler wrote:
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:03:33 -0800
From: Mike Wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mikel King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Brady Orand [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: taxes
Mikel King wrote:
guys I think you are making this a way bigger problem than it really
is...e-merce crap is generally taxed based on the location of the
vendor; much the same way in which mail order businesses are taxed.
You really only have to worry about the state/locality in which you
are incorperated/operate from, and in many cases this only applies to
transactions that occur within those bounds. Meaning that both the
vendor and the customer are in the same state. Really this is a
matter for the bean counters, but thus far I've yet to buy anything
even from Amazon that I have to pay tax on unless they are in my
state.
Actually it gets complicated for two reasons. On the web site I run
http://www.tias.com/ we have vendors in all 50 states. Second, if you
have a business presence in the state the customer is located in, then
you need to calculate the tax for *their* locality. So in the normal
case where you are calculating the taxes for just 1 vendors. Who has
only one location, then things can be simplified by dealing with only
the rules of the state (and the localities within the state).
cheers,
mikel
Mike Wexler wrote:
Actually its even more complicated than this. There are city taxes
and
other taxes on other boundaries. In addition the rules as far as
what
things are taxable vary by locality. For example, some localities
charge
taxes on shipping and others don't.
Brady Orand wrote:
This is not as easy (conceptually) as it sounds. You have to know
the
current state tax plus any county taxes applicable. If you set up
a table
with this information, you can cross reference the location of the
buyer
with the table, calculate the appropriate taxes, and charge them
accordingly.
You must also make sure to record the taxes that were paid so they
can be
paid to the appropriate tax agency. Not an easy task.
There are sources out there for all of this information and you
can get tax
tables on a CD that can be imported.
Brady...
Original Message Follows
From: Mikel King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LDL Enterprise [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: *MySQL mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: taxes
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:57:35 -0500
Wound't you just set a table with an id, state_abrev, tax
columns. Then
the id column will match the selection...et cettera...capisce
LDL Enterprise wrote:
does anyone know how to calculateg taxes for a shop cart that
would set
the
tax depending on the state that they select when filling out
their
contact
information? Thanks.
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Re: taxes
This is not as easy (conceptually) as it sounds. You have to know the current state tax plus any county taxes applicable. If you set up a table with this information, you can cross reference the location of the buyer with the table, calculate the appropriate taxes, and charge them accordingly. You must also make sure to record the taxes that were paid so they can be paid to the appropriate tax agency. Not an easy task. There are sources out there for all of this information and you can get tax tables on a CD that can be imported. Brady... Original Message Follows From: Mikel King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LDL Enterprise [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: *MySQL mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: taxes Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:57:35 -0500 Wound't you just set a table with an id, state_abrev, tax columns. Then the id column will match the selection...et cettera...capisce LDL Enterprise wrote: does anyone know how to calculateg taxes for a shop cart that would set the tax depending on the state that they select when filling out their contact information? Thanks. _ ___ | | | \ | | | |__ | | || |__ |||___/ || Larry L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ldlenterprise.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: taxes
Actually its even more complicated than this. There are city taxes and other taxes on other boundaries. In addition the rules as far as what things are taxable vary by locality. For example, some localities charge taxes on shipping and others don't. Brady Orand wrote: This is not as easy (conceptually) as it sounds. You have to know the current state tax plus any county taxes applicable. If you set up a table with this information, you can cross reference the location of the buyer with the table, calculate the appropriate taxes, and charge them accordingly. You must also make sure to record the taxes that were paid so they can be paid to the appropriate tax agency. Not an easy task. There are sources out there for all of this information and you can get tax tables on a CD that can be imported. Brady... Original Message Follows From: Mikel King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LDL Enterprise [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: *MySQL mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: taxes Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:57:35 -0500 Wound't you just set a table with an id, state_abrev, tax columns. Then the id column will match the selection...et cettera...capisce LDL Enterprise wrote: does anyone know how to calculateg taxes for a shop cart that would set the tax depending on the state that they select when filling out their contact information? Thanks. _ ___ | | | \ | | | |__ | | || |__ |||___/ || Larry L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ldlenterprise.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: taxes
guys I think you are making this a way bigger problem than it really is...e-merce crap is generally taxed based on the location of the vendor; much the same way in which mail order businesses are taxed. You really only have to worry about the state/locality in which you are incorperated/operate from, and in many cases this only applies to transactions that occur within those bounds. Meaning that both the vendor and the customer are in the same state. Really this is a matter for the bean counters, but thus far I've yet to buy anything even from Amazon that I have to pay tax on unless they are in my state. cheers, mikel Mike Wexler wrote: Actually its even more complicated than this. There are city taxes and other taxes on other boundaries. In addition the rules as far as what things are taxable vary by locality. For example, some localities charge taxes on shipping and others don't. Brady Orand wrote: This is not as easy (conceptually) as it sounds. You have to know the current state tax plus any county taxes applicable. If you set up a table with this information, you can cross reference the location of the buyer with the table, calculate the appropriate taxes, and charge them accordingly. You must also make sure to record the taxes that were paid so they can be paid to the appropriate tax agency. Not an easy task. There are sources out there for all of this information and you can get tax tables on a CD that can be imported. Brady... Original Message Follows From: Mikel King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LDL Enterprise [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: *MySQL mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: taxes Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:57:35 -0500 Wound't you just set a table with an id, state_abrev, tax columns. Then the id column will match the selection...et cettera...capisce LDL Enterprise wrote: does anyone know how to calculateg taxes for a shop cart that would set the tax depending on the state that they select when filling out their contact information? Thanks. _ ___ | | | \ | | | |__ | | || |__ |||___/ || Larry L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ldlenterprise.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: taxes
Most of my clients get around this problem by incorperating the web side of the business under a different name. There have typically been two reasons for this; 1. it circumvents the tax issue. 2. if the web business encounters legal troubles et cettera...they can go belly up w/o affecting the core storefront locations...Anyway that's how they do it...not how everyone else does...this make good sense if your host is located in one state...;) ok I think we've veer far enough off course... cheers, mikel Mike Wexler wrote: Mikel King wrote: guys I think you are making this a way bigger problem than it really is...e-merce crap is generally taxed based on the location of the vendor; much the same way in which mail order businesses are taxed. You really only have to worry about the state/locality in which you are incorperated/operate from, and in many cases this only applies to transactions that occur within those bounds. Meaning that both the vendor and the customer are in the same state. Really this is a matter for the bean counters, but thus far I've yet to buy anything even from Amazon that I have to pay tax on unless they are in my state. Actually it gets complicated for two reasons. On the web site I run http://www.tias.com/ we have vendors in all 50 states. Second, if you have a business presence in the state the customer is located in, then you need to calculate the tax for *their* locality. So in the normal case where you are calculating the taxes for just 1 vendors. Who has only one location, then things can be simplified by dealing with only the rules of the state (and the localities within the state). cheers, mikel Mike Wexler wrote: Actually its even more complicated than this. There are city taxes and other taxes on other boundaries. In addition the rules as far as what things are taxable vary by locality. For example, some localities charge taxes on shipping and others don't. Brady Orand wrote: This is not as easy (conceptually) as it sounds. You have to know the current state tax plus any county taxes applicable. If you set up a table with this information, you can cross reference the location of the buyer with the table, calculate the appropriate taxes, and charge them accordingly. You must also make sure to record the taxes that were paid so they can be paid to the appropriate tax agency. Not an easy task. There are sources out there for all of this information and you can get tax tables on a CD that can be imported. Brady... Original Message Follows From: Mikel King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LDL Enterprise [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: *MySQL mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: taxes Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:57:35 -0500 Wound't you just set a table with an id, state_abrev, tax columns. Then the id column will match the selection...et cettera...capisce LDL Enterprise wrote: does anyone know how to calculateg taxes for a shop cart that would set the tax depending on the state that they select when filling out their contact information? Thanks. _ ___ | | | \ | | | |__ | | || |__ |||___/ || Larry L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ldlenterprise.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php
Re: taxes
Also some states, like California, base their sales taxes for mail-order on the recipients postal code, not the vendors, unless the codes are the same. There are eight or nine different sales tax rates in CA depending on local taxes. Mike Wexler wrote: Mikel King wrote: guys I think you are making this a way bigger problem than it really is...e-merce crap is generally taxed based on the location of the vendor; much the same way in which mail order businesses are taxed. You really only have to worry about the state/locality in which you are incorperated/operate from, and in many cases this only applies to transactions that occur within those bounds. Meaning that both the vendor and the customer are in the same state. Really this is a matter for the bean counters, but thus far I've yet to buy anything even from Amazon that I have to pay tax on unless they are in my state. Actually it gets complicated for two reasons. On the web site I run http://www.tias.com/ we have vendors in all 50 states. Second, if you have a business presence in the state the customer is located in, then you need to calculate the tax for *their* locality. So in the normal case where you are calculating the taxes for just 1 vendors. Who has only one location, then things can be simplified by dealing with only the rules of the state (and the localities within the state). cheers, mikel Mike Wexler wrote: Actually its even more complicated than this. There are city taxes and other taxes on other boundaries. In addition the rules as far as what things are taxable vary by locality. For example, some localities charge taxes on shipping and others don't. Brady Orand wrote: This is not as easy (conceptually) as it sounds. You have to know the current state tax plus any county taxes applicable. If you set up a table with this information, you can cross reference the location of the buyer with the table, calculate the appropriate taxes, and charge them accordingly. You must also make sure to record the taxes that were paid so they can be paid to the appropriate tax agency. Not an easy task. There are sources out there for all of this information and you can get tax tables on a CD that can be imported. Brady... Original Message Follows From: Mikel King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LDL Enterprise [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: *MySQL mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: taxes Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:57:35 -0500 Wound't you just set a table with an id, state_abrev, tax columns. Then the id column will match the selection...et cettera...capisce LDL Enterprise wrote: does anyone know how to calculateg taxes for a shop cart that would set the tax depending on the state that they select when filling out their contact information? Thanks. _ ___ | | | \ | | | |__ | | || |__ |||___/ || Larry L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ldlenterprise.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: taxes
"MK" == Mikel King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MK guys I think you are making this a way bigger problem than it MK really is...e-merce crap is generally taxed based on the location MK of the vendor; much the same way in which mail order businesses MK are taxed. You really only have to worry about the state/locality What world (or country) do you live in? When was the last time you ordered something from Dell or Apple on line? What tax rate did you pay? You pay your local rate; not the rate of the location of the store. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
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does anyone know how to calculateg taxes for a shop cart that would set the tax depending on the state that they select when filling out their contact information? Thanks. _ ___ | | | \ | | | |__ | | || |__ |||___/ || Larry L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ldlenterprise.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: taxes
On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 01:32:24PM -0700, LDL Enterprise wrote: does anyone know how to calculateg taxes for a shop cart that would set the tax depending on the state that they select when filling out their contact information? Thanks. Using MySQL? -- Jeremy D. Zawodny, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Yahoo - Yahoo Finance Desk: (408) 328-7878Fax: (408) 530-5454 Cell: (408) 439-9951 - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: taxes
Wound't you just set a table with an id, state_abrev, tax columns. Then the id column will match the selection...et cettera...capisce LDL Enterprise wrote: does anyone know how to calculateg taxes for a shop cart that would set the tax depending on the state that they select when filling out their contact information? Thanks. _ ___ | | | \ | | | |__ | | || |__ |||___/ || Larry L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ldlenterprise.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
