what's the relationship among 4.1, 5.0 and 5.1?

2005-11-07 Thread Bing Du
Hello,

Anybody have a good pointer that could help explain why is 4.1, 5.0 and
5.1 respectively?  5.0 had been in development state for a while, now it's
finally released.  I know 5.0 has added more features.  Would 4.x
eventually be obsolete and replaced by 5.x?  I guess I need some help to
understand how there are several versions for the same software and
suggestion on which one should be used?

Thanks in advance,

Bing

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Re: what's the relationship among 4.1, 5.0 and 5.1?

2005-11-07 Thread Rhino
MySQL is like most other software; the higher version numbers indicate later
releases of the code and later releases have more features than earlier
releases. Therefore, 5.1 has more features than 5.0 and 5.0 has more
features than 4.1. To see the new features added in each of these versions,
see the appropriate manuals:
- New features in 4.1:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/nutshell-4-1-features.html
- New features in 5.0:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysql-5-0-nutshell.html


The developers at MySQL are currently working on 5.1; they know what
features they plan to put in it but some of them are probably not there at
all while others are still fairly buggy. You can download 5.1 and run it but
you shouldn't be surprised if some things don't work or don't work
correctly. This might be the thing to do if you want to play with the new
features that are being added in 5.1 but you probably don't want to use 5.1
for a production system yet.

5.0 (5.0.15 to be exact) stable for production use. 4.1 is also suitable for
production use but has fewer features than 5.0. For example, if you need
Views, you won't find 4.1 acceptable because it doesn't support Views while
5.0 does.

So, look at the features lists and figure out what you need. Then, decide if
you want a version of MySQL that you can use in production or just one that
will let you play with new features for now and choose the appropriate
bundle to download.

Rhino

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Subject: what's the relationship among 4.1, 5.0 and 5.1?


Hello,

Anybody have a good pointer that could help explain why is 4.1, 5.0 and
5.1 respectively?  5.0 had been in development state for a while, now it's
finally released.  I know 5.0 has added more features.  Would 4.x
eventually be obsolete and replaced by 5.x?  I guess I need some help to
understand how there are several versions for the same software and
suggestion on which one should be used?

Thanks in advance,

Bing

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Re: what's the relationship among 4.1, 5.0 and 5.1?

2005-11-07 Thread Rhino
Oops, I clicked Send too soon!

I meant to include a link for the features that are new to 5.1:

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/roadmap.html

Rhino

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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: what's the relationship among 4.1, 5.0 and 5.1?


Hello,

Anybody have a good pointer that could help explain why is 4.1, 5.0 and
5.1 respectively?  5.0 had been in development state for a while, now it's
finally released.  I know 5.0 has added more features.  Would 4.x
eventually be obsolete and replaced by 5.x?  I guess I need some help to
understand how there are several versions for the same software and
suggestion on which one should be used?

Thanks in advance,

Bing

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Re: what's the relationship among 4.1, 5.0 and 5.1?

2005-11-07 Thread Joerg Bruehe

Hi all!


Rhino is fully correct, writing:

MySQL is like most other software; the higher version numbers indicate later
releases of the code and later releases have more features than earlier
releases. Therefore, 5.1 has more features than 5.0 and 5.0 has more
features than 4.1. To see the new features added in each of these versions,
see the appropriate manuals:
- New features in 4.1:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/nutshell-4-1-features.html
- New features in 5.0:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysql-5-0-nutshell.html


The developers at MySQL are currently working on 5.1; [[...]]


and (in his next mail):
 I meant to include a link for the features that are new to 5.1:
 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/roadmap.html


But Bing had asked:
 [[...]]  I know 5.0 has added more features.  Would 4.x
 eventually be obsolete and replaced by 5.x?  [[...]]


It seems appropriate to repeat what Kaj Arnö (MySQL) had posted to the 
announce list on Oct 24, 2005:


| Let me also underline that we continue to offer some earlier versions
| of MySQL Server for download. However, you should expect maintenance
| releases for earlier versions only in limited form:
|
| - for MySQL 4.1, only when serious bugs affecting significant user
|groups are reported
|
| - for MySQL 4.0, only when security bugs are reported


So: Yes, 4.0 and 4.1 will in due time be obsolete, like 3.23 is already now.

For a new installation (production), we recommend to use 5.0;
for new development, testing on 5.1 should soon be an alternative.

For existing installations, we recommend to migrate towards 5.0.


Regards,
Joerg

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