Re: [mythtv] Can't scan or tune DVB-T in UK

2005-05-03 Thread Terry Barnaby
Gareth Powell wrote:
I'm trying to get MythTV up and running, and after a number of
problems, I think I'm nearly there.
I'm using MythTV 0.18+ out of CVS from about a week ago (although I'm
happy to upgrade if it will help) on an i386 with basically FC2, but
I've added all the prerequisite RPMs and I've got the 2.6.11+ kraxel1
patches.
I'm using a Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T card with the cx88-dvb module. 
xawtv displays video, but pops up a box saying can't play audio
stream.  It's not clear if it can't tune it, or simply can't find the
audio card.  Since I didn't want to use xawtv, but mythtv, I just moved
on.

With MythTV, I can't scan channels.  I've been able to set up the card,
and it seems to recognize it.  When I run mythtv-setup and attempt to
automatically tune in the channels, it doesn't work.  I get three bars
telling me I have signal strength of 16% and SNR of 75%, which doesn't
sound good, but as I say, it's enough for xawtv to tune in all the
stations.
I downloaded dvbsnoop which I'd seen referred to in a couple of other
posts.  After a long wait, I got output from it once, but lost it in
that window.  Since then, I can't get any output from it at all.  I was
running it as:
# dvbsnoop -n 1 600
where 600 is the video pid of BBC ONE.
For reference, I am tuning to Winter Hill, generally using the channel
frequency 754166670.  This works for xawtv and dvbtune.
# dvbtune -f 754166670 gives this output:
Using DVB card Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T
tuning DVB-T (in United Kingdom) to 754166670 Hz
polling
Getting frontend event
FE_STATUS:
polling
Getting frontend event
FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL
polling
Getting frontend event
FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_LOCK FE_HAS_CARRIER FE_HAS_VITERBI
FE_HAS_SYNC
Bit error rate: 0
Signal strength: 10537
SNR: 65535
FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_LOCK FE_HAS_CARRIER FE_HAS_VITERBI
FE_HAS_SYNC
Any help appreciated ...
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Just a short note to say that I have had similar issues with
MythTv CVS 2005-04-22. I cannot offer a direct solution but
somehow I got around it (not sure how ...).
It may be I tuned manually using dvbscan (aborted when finding
PID's on appropriate frequency), then used mythth-setup to
scan the channels. It may be that the current version of MythTv
does not tune to the frequency you enter in the frequency box ...
Terry
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Re: [mythtv] Can't scan or tune DVB-T in UK

2005-05-03 Thread John Pullan
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 15:21 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote:
 Gareth Powell wrote:
  I'm trying to get MythTV up and running, and after a number of
  problems, I think I'm nearly there.
  
  I'm using MythTV 0.18+ out of CVS from about a week ago (although I'm
  happy to upgrade if it will help) on an i386 with basically FC2, but
  I've added all the prerequisite RPMs and I've got the 2.6.11+ kraxel1
  patches.
  
  I'm using a Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T card with the cx88-dvb module. 
  xawtv displays video, but pops up a box saying can't play audio
  stream.  It's not clear if it can't tune it, or simply can't find the
  audio card.  Since I didn't want to use xawtv, but mythtv, I just moved
  on.
  
  With MythTV, I can't scan channels.  I've been able to set up the card,
  and it seems to recognize it.  When I run mythtv-setup and attempt to
  automatically tune in the channels, it doesn't work.  I get three bars
  telling me I have signal strength of 16% and SNR of 75%, which doesn't
  sound good, but as I say, it's enough for xawtv to tune in all the
  stations.
  
  I downloaded dvbsnoop which I'd seen referred to in a couple of other
  posts.  After a long wait, I got output from it once, but lost it in
  that window.  Since then, I can't get any output from it at all.  I was
  running it as:
  
  # dvbsnoop -n 1 600
  
  where 600 is the video pid of BBC ONE.
  
  For reference, I am tuning to Winter Hill, generally using the channel
  frequency 754166670.  This works for xawtv and dvbtune.
  
  # dvbtune -f 754166670 gives this output:
  Using DVB card Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T
  tuning DVB-T (in United Kingdom) to 754166670 Hz
  polling
  Getting frontend event
  FE_STATUS:
  polling
  Getting frontend event
  FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL
  polling
  Getting frontend event
  FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_LOCK FE_HAS_CARRIER FE_HAS_VITERBI
  FE_HAS_SYNC
  Bit error rate: 0
  Signal strength: 10537
  SNR: 65535
  FE_STATUS: FE_HAS_SIGNAL FE_HAS_LOCK FE_HAS_CARRIER FE_HAS_VITERBI
  FE_HAS_SYNC
  
  Any help appreciated ...
snip
 
 Just a short note to say that I have had similar issues with
 MythTv CVS 2005-04-22. I cannot offer a direct solution but
 somehow I got around it (not sure how ...).
 It may be I tuned manually using dvbscan (aborted when finding
 PID's on appropriate frequency), then used mythth-setup to
 scan the channels. It may be that the current version of MythTv
 does not tune to the frequency you enter in the frequency box ...
 
snip

This should be on -users but anyway,

Make sure you fill out as many of the parameters as possible in the
scanner. So that would be (from memory)

754166670 , bandwidth 8 inversion off Constellation 16, lp 2/3 hp 3/4 ,
guard_interval 1/32, transmit 2 hierarchy none, It does work, cos I'm on
the same transmitter.



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Re: [mythtv] Can't scan or tune DVB-T in UK

2005-05-03 Thread Simeon Walker
Sorry for not quoting, I'm using an uncooperative webmail system...

I recently had to manually add a multiplex that didn't get added when scanning. 
It's frequency as 818.167 MHz, I added it and then tried to scan that multiplex 
only, it found nothing.

Eventually I found that if I added 818MHz (no .167) as the multiplex frequency 
then it did work. I notice the frequency you mention has an offset like that, 
maybe you could try 75400 as the frequency.

Regards,
Simeon
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Re: [mythtv] Can't scan or tune DVB-T in UK

2005-05-03 Thread Gareth Powell
--- John Pullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This should be on -users but anyway,

My apologies ... I've spent so long in the debugger I've come to think
of myself as a developer, not a user :-)

 Make sure you fill out as many of the parameters as possible in the
 scanner. So that would be (from memory)
 
 754166670 , bandwidth 8 inversion off Constellation 16, lp 2/3 hp 3/4
 ,
 guard_interval 1/32, transmit 2 hierarchy none, It does work, cos I'm
 on
 the same transmitter.

It does work, as you say.  And I now have 36 channels.  I found though
that I still have the same problem that got me going down this road,
which is that the backend complains it doesn't have any PIDs.  But with
some more digging, I've found that that seems to be because the
dvb_pids table is empty.

I added the PIDs for ITV1 (which is the default channel 3) directly
using MySQL and I was able to watch this station.  Which leads me to
two questions:

1.  Am I doing something wrong that the PIDS table is not being filled
in automatically when scanning? (the PIDs are returned in dvbscan)

2.  It used to be possible (on the older versions) to type in the PIDs
- I thought in setup - but this doesn't seem to be an option anymore. 
Am I missing something?

Thanks for your help

Gareth.


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Re: [mythtv] Can't scan or tune DVB-T in UK

2005-05-03 Thread Tom Hughes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gareth Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It does work, as you say.  And I now have 36 channels.  I found though
 that I still have the same problem that got me going down this road,
 which is that the backend complains it doesn't have any PIDs.  But with
 some more digging, I've found that that seems to be because the
 dvb_pids table is empty.

The dvb_pids table is supposed to be empty - it isn't used anymore.

 I added the PIDs for ITV1 (which is the default channel 3) directly
 using MySQL and I was able to watch this station.  Which leads me to
 two questions:

The tables which used to hold PIDs are no longer used so whatever you
did probably had little effect.

 1.  Am I doing something wrong that the PIDS table is not being filled
 in automatically when scanning? (the PIDs are returned in dvbscan)

Nope. PIDs are determined on the fly when tuning to a channel now
by reading the PMT and looking up the service ID to get the PIDs to
use.

 2.  It used to be possible (on the older versions) to type in the PIDs
 - I thought in setup - but this doesn't seem to be an option anymore. 
 Am I missing something?

Nope. That's intentional.

Tom

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