Re: [mythtv-users] Oversaturation / Bleeding

[Johan Venter]

Johan Venter wrote:
**snip**
I know Myth can pay attention to XV picture controls, but I'm not 
entirely sure where I set XV picture controls, or even whether it will 
help (as mplayer doesn't have the same problem).


Ok, so I worked this out for myself and for anyone else who doesn't know 
(and Google purposes) look up the xvinfo and xvattr utilities. Myth will 
listen to the Xv controls only for playback, however, and not for 
recording (so therefore couldn't fix my original problem).



Any suggestions?


I did, however, figure this one out. I had my vertical overscan set to 
1%. Zeroing this value fixed the colour problems. Just going to chalk 
this up to the flux going on in the SVN codebase at the moment and check 
to see if there's a ticket in Trac.


Regards,

Johan.
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[mythtv-users] need query to remove DVB transports

[joe byrne]

How do I remove DVB transports?  In an effort to get my air2pc (atsc
dvb) card working, I attempted to follow the directions posted at
http://www.digitalregime.com/mythdvb/setup/. Unfortunately step 4A is
out of date and I ended up adding a bunch of bogus transports.  How
can I delete them?  I've changed them all to be at 0Hz, so a WHERE
clause should be easy to formulate.  I just don't know which table(s)
I need to hack on.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Announcement: New debian repository

[John Goerzen]

On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 08:10:21PM +0100, Adam Egger wrote:
> The package mythtv is built with all epg/eit flags enabled for dvb
> users and with firewire support. All needed firewire packages are
> added to Christian's repository too, so there's no need to "make
> install" them anymore.

Sounds great, but how about also building against nvidia-glx for those
of us playing back HDTV?

-- John

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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording Bitrates fpr PVR 350

[Scott Alfter]

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Christian Borchmann wrote:
> what are usefull settings for recording dayli episodes of cartoon with a
> pvr-350?
> 
> u choose a bitrate form 2500-3500.

Disk space is cheap.  I just record everything at 6 Mbps and call it a day.
With ~340 GB (real gigabytes, not "salesman's gigabytes") across three drives,
I've never run out of space.  Stuff I want to save gets archived to DVD; other
stuff gets auto-deleted to keep a few episodes of each show on hand.  With most
of what I watch, if I don't get around to watching it the first time around,
it'll probably be on again before too long.

(Fry's recently had a 400GB Seagate with 8 MB cache for ~$170 after rebate.
The same drive with 16 MB cache, if you wanted that, was $10 more.)

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Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv errors after dist-upgrade

[Scott Alfter]

sdk wrote:
> There were a decent amount of new packages, so I decided to update
> with apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade on FC3.
> 
> capture card: PVR-350
> Kernel(which was upgraded during the install): 2.6.12-1.1381_FC3

Since you upgraded the kernel, you might have some duplicate modules filed
under both /lib/modules/2.6.12.blahblah (from the kernel) and in a non-kernel
location under /lib/modules (from ivtv).  Locate the modules that were
installed with ivtv and search the kernel modules for the same names.  Some
likely culprits are tuner.ko, tveeprom.ko, and tda9887.ko; you may have some
others as well.

Once you've found the extras, remove them from the kernel directory, unload all
of the modules and modprobe ivtv.  All should be well, as the ivtv versions of
all of these modules should now be in use.

(Shameless plug for Gentoo: When you install ivtv, the ebuild checks for
duplicate modules provided by the kernel and advises you to move/delete them.)

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RE: [mythtv-users] Any Feedback on using Myth on the ServerWorks LE-Tchipset?

[Moasat]

> as folks may recall from my previous posts, I'm building my 
> latest myth box on Tyan Thunder S2518GNR mainboard (dual 
> Socket370 with the ServerWorks III LE chipset).  I'm having a 
> bit of an issue with stuttering right now, namely a slight 
> out-of-sync between the video and audio.  I know that the Via 
> chipsets are known to have problems with DMA timing.  Does 
> anyone have any feedback, second-hand or not, on the 
> ServerWorks chipset that this mainboard uses?  My gut tells 
> me that the ServerWorks chipset should have little to do with 
> my problem since I'm running my HDDs from the onboard Promise 
> controller.
> 
> Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

I have a ServerWorks chipset.  ServerWorks LE, but it does not have an
onboard Promise controller.  Its an onboard LSI SCSI, which I'm not using.
I have not had this one hooked up for awhile but I am bringing it back
online with a PVR150.  I don't recall having any trouble with it.  I was
running svn version on it for awhile as a slave backend but when it recorded
to a local raid0 volume, the master backend would come along and try to
commflag and transcode it.  (The file was not local to the master so it
barfed and left lots of stuff in the logs).

To answer your question though, I don't recall having any trouble with it.
Make sure DMA is on for your drives.  Under Windows, this chipset would not
enable DMA by default.  It had to be forced.  I'm also having to force acpi
FWIW.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Help with xorg.conf

[Allan Wilson]

Thanks Michael, that was just a flub I meant 1080p. I know I shouldn't use the svideo out but it's what I've got now and I am going to be adding a new box that will use a better connection. Right now I mainly want to get my desktop and myth full screen on my 16:9 screen. I haven't played with linux at all on a 16:9 screen can someone give me some pointers I am suffering from to much info I think. Like how do I find my HorizSync or my VertRefresh. What modeline are you using and what lead you to using it? Thanks for the help
AllanOn 12/20/05, Michael T. Dean <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Allan Wilson wrote:> Why is it not a true 1280p?It's 1080p, not 1280p.  As in 1920x1080 pixels--versus 720p, which has1280x720 pixels.  And, when I say, "It's 1080p," I mean to include your
Sony KDS-R60XBR1 as well as the name of the standard.> Do you have a recommendation on a scaler and what role do they play?>> It looks like there is different modelines depending on what you are
> watching? How do you know which ones to pick out of the list? If I> pick the right modeline will it make my desktop take up the entire> screen? I am using the nVidia GeForce4 MX 4000, why will it make it
> tougher to push 1280i?>> I looked at my log file, Xorg.0.log, and could not find my EDID> information but I did find where it was trying to setup the resolution:>> (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x720" (no mode of this name)
> (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "960x540p" (not a valid TV mode)> (**) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes for display device TV-0:> (**) NVIDIA(0):  Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 
31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz> (**) NVIDIA(0):  Default mode "320x240": 12.6 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.1> Hz (D)> (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 640 x 480You should not be using TV modes.  Your TV is just a glorified monitor.
Set it up just like you would any other monitor for a desktop.  And,don't use S-Video or composite out.  Check out 
avsforum.com for details(start with

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=b093c16ad47d82d4c2e75f3ff6cff7fc&t=584936&page=1&pp=30--the answer you need is probably in the 4902 posts that are currentlythere).> The two modes it would not pick up where two that I was playing with.
>> Thanks for the help I am very confused on getting the best out of my> TV. I don't blame you on waiting, I was using an old 32" TV for my> main tv viewing and trying to hold out for the prices to go out on the
> 1280p but the TV started to go out and I couldn't wait any longer. I> have to admit I am pretty happy with the purchase so far. I may not> have the same story a year from now.I got a Samsung HL-R6768W (67" 1080p TV), because I was waiting for real
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[mythtv-users] Any Feedback on using Myth on the ServerWorks LE-T chipset?

[Tony McDowell]

as folks may recall from my previous posts, I'm building my latest myth 
box on Tyan Thunder S2518GNR mainboard (dual Socket370 with the 
ServerWorks III LE chipset).  I'm having a bit of an issue with 
stuttering right now, namely a slight out-of-sync between the video and 
audio.  I know that the Via chipsets are known to have problems with DMA 
timing.  Does anyone have any feedback, second-hand or not, on the 
ServerWorks chipset that this mainboard uses?  My gut tells me that the 
ServerWorks chipset should have little to do with my problem since I'm 
running my HDDs from the onboard Promise controller.


Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV Over firewire (HAVI)

[Matt Harris]

Thanks - this sounds like the answer I need.  From what I can tell, any 
device can be pushed to or pulled from, yes.  It would be nice to use 
the TVs interface though.  Outside this, there will be no OSD for the 
interface, so it would be pretty useless if one has to switch between 
one input for the video display of the myth box to the other input for 
the HD transport stream just to get the file playing.

I'll see what I can dig up on this, and let y'all know.
-Matt

Daniel Kristjansson wrote:


On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 20:01 -0500, Matt Harris wrote:

 

Is there any ability (now or planned) to use a mythTV server as a HAVI 
hard disc device?  For those who don't know what this is, HAVI is 
basically a device control protocol that some TVs use to control and 
transport MPEG streams.
   


AFAIC This not in anyone's development want-to-do list. However,
MythTV does know how to record from other HAVi devices via the 
"Firewire" recorder.


 

My particular HDTV (a mitsubishi) has the ability to record to 
compatible devices over firewire.  The MPEG data and control data are 
sent over the interface, and as such the TV controls the transport of 
the recording device, all seamlessly through it's own remote control 
with on-screen-displays created by the TV and all.
   


You might be able to do this the other way around, by having MythTV
control the TV. Currently control of only a few HAVi cable boxes have
been implemented in MythTV, but your TV might act like one of them.
You may want to try it and report back to everyone about whether it
worked.

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[mythtv-users] Using MythTV as a non-TV recording device

[Ryan Green]

The place of my employment currently has a setup where presentations
are shot with a camera, and then currently recorded onto a VCR, and
then captured from that tape onto a Computer for DVD. Currently, this
takes us too much time and effort, and we'd like to go directly from
camera to MPEG-2, and then record that with external software (doesn't
have to be on the mythbox). We have a Hauppage PVR-250 which has an
mpeg-2 encoder lying around, so we're thinking of dropping that into a
box along with mythtv. Then, the files would be accessed over the
local network for burning with Adobe Premiere.

I'm not going to be recording TV with this at all, just programming a
record button onto our AMX system and hooking it up to the computers
serial port. How should I go around this? Is mythtv even the right
choice?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Interesting false match

[Allan McIntosh]

I know the Titles are the same I was just commenting on the fact that 
they are different as one is House Type "movie" Catagory Drama and one 
House  type "Series" (SH688359) category Mystery.



Doesn't sound false to me. You asked to record "House" on any time,  
any channel. That's exactly what it did. :)


On Dec 21, 2005, at 10:32 PM, Allan McIntosh wrote:


Hey,

I have a record schedule for new episodes of the series House,  which 
is set to record at any time on any channel.
There is a movie on the IFC called House that I believe falsely  
falls under this record schedule.





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Re: [mythtv-users] Interesting false match

[Brad DerManouelian]

Doesn't sound false to me. You asked to record "House" on any time,  
any channel. That's exactly what it did. :)


On Dec 21, 2005, at 10:32 PM, Allan McIntosh wrote:


Hey,

I have a record schedule for new episodes of the series House,  
which is set to record at any time on any channel.
There is a movie on the IFC called House that I believe falsely  
falls under this record schedule.





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[mythtv-users] Interesting false match

[Allan McIntosh]

Hey,

I have a record schedule for new episodes of the series House, which is 
set to record at any time on any channel.
There is a movie on the IFC called House that I believe falsely falls 
under this record schedule.





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Re: [mythtv-users] newbie needin help with PVR-350 [Resolved]

[Jason]

woohoo! got it working..
1. disabled my alsa drivers in case it was fighting with the pvr350 audio.
2. put the mythtv user in the video group!  
I think #2 what what really did it.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Greg Estabrooks]

> >  *Cough* I'm Canadian, but some of our channels are American based ;)
> 
> They might as well put "But I'm Canadian!" on my flaming headstone. I never 

 It's ok, I'm use to it :) I just point it out for accuracy ;P

> Okay, so the callsign in the channel table is looked up in the 
> callsignnetworkmap table, and then the network is looked up in the 

 Essentially, mythfilldatabase reads in all callsigns and the iconurl 
from each source that have no icons currently set. If matches are found
it tries to download the icon and updates the channel table to point to
the new icon.

> 1. What would network be set to? Something similar to the name field in the 
> channel table???

 No, "Network" in this case has nothing to do with television or the channel
name :) 


> 2. I don't know if or how mythtv utilises these tables, so I'm a bit wary of 
> changing them. Are these dominant or recessive over the icon field in the 
> channel table? Are these tables used to update the icon field?

 These tables are only populated if the user puts data in there, often
done with the mythfilldatabase options to import an xml icon map.
And mythfilldatabase I believe is the only part of myth that uses them
so we can manipulate the data as we like.

As well the data is only need until the icon is downloaded, once grabbed
it doesn't need to be there anymore so I'm not worried about using those
tables. I might even look into getting mythfilldatabase to import the list
using it's normal methods so we never have to actually touch the tables.


> I'm not sure if you're asking for a feature added to mythalsig, or just 
> pointing out how mythalsig is useful for obtaining the raw data to get 
> inserted into these tables.

 Not asking for a feature, like you say I was just pointing out how useful 
your script is going to be for me to generate this data to be inserted into the
tables.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Help getting KWorld/VStream XPert DVB-T to work

[Nick]

On 21/12/05, Joacim J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yes, it fells pretty good but still some way to go ;-)
>
> I have also thought of skipping mplayer and go for mythtv. I have made
> a channel scan with dvbscan and it found a number of channels (43 if
> remember correct).
>
> BUT, I dont have /etc/udev/permissions.d at all at my FC4 system. The
> udev contains:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] udev]# ls -al
> total 60
> drwxr-xr-x   6 root root  4096 Nov 28 18:02 .
> drwxr-xr-x  84 root root 12288 Dec 21 22:16 ..
> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Nov 28 20:49 devices
> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Nov 28 18:02 makedev.d
> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Dec 20 21:55 rules.d
> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Nov 28 18:02 scripts
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root   384 Sep 30 14:35 udev.conf
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] udev]#
>
> Should I create the directory "/etc/udev/permission.d" or should I
> place the file in a other place?

udev rules go in /etc/udev/rules.d

Don't forget to run udevstart so that the new rules will take effect.

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Thursday 22 December 2005 02:01, Greg Estabrooks wrote:
> > Been out all day, so I've only just caught up on this thread. My God! You
> > "'mericuns" don't half make things complicated!!!
>
>  *Cough* I'm Canadian, but some of our channels are American based ;)

They might as well put "But I'm Canadian!" on my flaming headstone. I never 
fail to mistake Canadians for Americans. Sorry, but I'm crap at accents, and 
to be fair there weren't really many clues that you're from north of the 
border as you were only talking about us icons :-)

>  Plus I've been doing some tests against a few American friends channels
> lists.
>
> > 3. Attempt a (fuzzy?) match against the callsign of a channel.
>
>  I'd definately see this as a big one as it is likely to find most
> channels, at least in North America, maybe falling back to a name match if
> nothing is found.
>
> > 4. Add a "Processing web pages, please wait..." message.
>
>  You might also consider putting a "Item 13 of 26" type marker next to the
> name or callsign being checked.  If only to tell a user just how much more
> they have to go through :)
>
>  One thing I also found was that hitting s to skip was a bit of a pain when
> you are comparing several hundred channels. maybe enter/blank moves on
> to the next comparison? Even if a user accidentily hits enter more than
> they ment they can just run the app again.

Both good suggestions. Added to my list.

> > situations. i.e. the command line parameter is a comma seperated list of
> > master lists that are all loaded at once. Any thoughts guys, as this is a
> > feature you need, not me?
>
>  That sounds good to me.
>
> > I can just see me trying to figure this little lot out with a belly full
> > of turkey and "several" beers inside of me 8-P
>
>  Sounds like a good time to me...well the turkey anyway :)
>
>  One thing I tripped across tonight is something I completely forgot about.
> There is a callsignnetworkmap and networkiconmap table in the mythconverg
> database That can be populated with mappings of callsign to URL so that
> mythfilldatabase will try to download the icons for you for any callsign
> you have in your channel list. I think a little script to take the data
> I've gathered and import it into those tables would make it much easier for
> most as myth will pull in the icons for them. And of course the more
> comprehensive that data is the less people will have to do manually.
>
>  I see this tool as a great way to come up with that data. Might be
> more work for me, but should make it much easier for others.

Okay, so the callsign in the channel table is looked up in the 
callsignnetworkmap table, and then the network is looked up in the 
networkiconmap table. Two areas of concern:
1. What would network be set to? Something similar to the name field in the 
channel table???

2. I don't know if or how mythtv utilises these tables, so I'm a bit wary of 
changing them. Are these dominant or recessive over the icon field in the 
channel table? Are these tables used to update the icon field?

I'm not sure if you're asking for a feature added to mythalsig, or just 
pointing out how mythalsig is useful for obtaining the raw data to get 
inserted into these tables.
-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] fglrx Pal, 50Hz

[Nick]

On 19/12/05, Micha Kersloot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using the ati fglrx driver 8.19.10 which gives me quite a good
> picture. The only thin that bugs me a little is that when i'm watching
> tv and something is moving quite fast on the screen there seems to be a
> little lag on that object (the same thing you see when you wave your
> hand very fast in front of your eyes).
>
> I think from what i've read sofar this could have something to do with
> 'deinterlace'. Is that true?
>
> If that is the case, it looks like the deint functions are not working
> very well in my configuration. I think that the fact that i'm living in
> the Netherlands (PAL) and the fglrx driver using 60Hz could be the
> reason for these bad deint effects, true?
>
> If above is true, is it possible to use my Ati Radeon 9600 in a 50Hz
> configuration (maybe another / older driver?)

Have you tried limited the refresh rate for the TV in your xorg.conf
file? This should stop it trying to use a refresh rate higher than
50Hz. Have you also specified your TV standard (I use PAL-I in the UK)
in your xorg.conf file - this should be setup during fglrx driver
setup.

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythMusic skipping

[Nick]

On 21/12/05, David Peeters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've searched several boards and haven't found any usefull information
> regarding my problem.
>
> when playing .mp3s or ogg files in MythMusic, I get annoying skips every so
> often (usually one or two every 2 to 5 minutes). The skips are barely a half
> second long and its just like the audio stops playing for a moment.
>
> I'm running KnoppMyth R5A22 and using a Sound Blaster Live! SPDIF output.
> The soundcard is not used by MythTV playback since I have a tuner card for
> that.
>
> CPU usage does not seem to effect the skipping (It still skips with a 90%
> idle cpu).
>
> I've tried lower bitrate mp3s, but they have the same problem.
>
> mp3s don't always skip at the same place, so it's definately not a problem
> with a skip in the physical file.
>
> Does anyone know of a possible reason this could happen? I haven't seen
> anything strange in the logs, but I'm not experienced with linux so there
> might be something there and I wouldn't know it.

I've posted a couple of times about skipping in MythMusic (I get skips
of up to 20s randomly during playback). There were no replies, so I
figured no-one else was seeing this issue. I am upgrading a system in
the next few days to see whether a new version of Fedora/libraries
will cure the problem. The machine I see this on is running FC2 and
MythTV 0.18.1 from atrpms.net.

I am also outputting via SPDIF, but I got skipping previously when
using analog output too. The files play fine on my Windows machines in
WinAMP, so again like you, I'm pretty sure the files are good (tried
with 44.1kHz and 48kHz files). Again, no messages in the logs and no
problems when playing the files back in xine (also via SPDIF)

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Greg Estabrooks]

> Been out all day, so I've only just caught up on this thread. My God! You 
> "'mericuns" don't half make things complicated!!!

 *Cough* I'm Canadian, but some of our channels are American based ;)

 Plus I've been doing some tests against a few American friends channels lists.

> 3. Attempt a (fuzzy?) match against the callsign of a channel.

 I'd definately see this as a big one as it is likely to find most channels,
at least in North America, maybe falling back to a name match if nothing is 
found.

> 4. Add a "Processing web pages, please wait..." message.

 You might also consider putting a "Item 13 of 26" type marker next to the 
name or callsign being checked.  If only to tell a user just how much more 
they have to go through :)

 One thing I also found was that hitting s to skip was a bit of a pain when
you are comparing several hundred channels. maybe enter/blank moves on 
to the next comparison? Even if a user accidentily hits enter more than 
they ment they can just run the app again.

> situations. i.e. the command line parameter is a comma seperated list of 
> master lists that are all loaded at once. Any thoughts guys, as this is a 
> feature you need, not me?

 That sounds good to me.

> I can just see me trying to figure this little lot out with a belly full of 
> turkey and "several" beers inside of me 8-P

 Sounds like a good time to me...well the turkey anyway :)

 One thing I tripped across tonight is something I completely forgot about.
There is a callsignnetworkmap and networkiconmap table in the mythconverg 
database That can be populated with mappings of callsign to URL so that
mythfilldatabase will try to download the icons for you for any callsign you
have in your channel list. I think a little script to take the data I've 
gathered and import it into those tables would make it much easier for
most as myth will pull in the icons for them. And of course the more 
comprehensive that data is the less people will have to do manually.

 I see this tool as a great way to come up with that data. Might be
more work for me, but should make it much easier for others.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Thursday 22 December 2005 01:38, Stephen Boddy wrote:
> Been out all day, so I've only just caught up on this thread. My God! You
> "'mericuns" don't half make things complicated!!!
>
> I'll be away from my main system for the next week, but I'll take the guts
> with me on the lappyb and see if I can't make some progress. I'm going to
> try and list the outstanding requests here:
>
> 1. Seperate out the country/state code specific parts. I think it is
> additionally a good idea to move the country/state specific settings to
> here too. Then an command line option will be added to pass a country
> code/state field to the program. These files will just be a python file
> containing variables that get imported. It's very easy, and I don't have to
> go making up config file formats ;-) If not passed program will default to
> a country/state code defined in main the program file, as it does now.
>
> 2. Add a command line option to restrict to the channels of a particular
> source id. If not passed program behaves as it does now.
>
> 3. Attempt a (fuzzy?) match against the callsign of a channel.
>
> 4. Add a "Processing web pages, please wait..." message.
>
> 5. I can sort of see a way to build composites to deal with us(-il|--in)
> situations. i.e. the command line parameter is a comma seperated list of
> master lists that are all loaded at once. Any thoughts guys, as this is a
> feature you need, not me?
>
> 6. Fix the program from wigging out (line 200) when the country code does
> not exist. This will probably be substantially changed anyway, going to
> seperate file master lists/settings.

Just thought of another:

7. Ability to restrict channels processed from country/state composite. At the 
moment if you want to just change entry 79/80, but it already has an entry, 
then autospeed won't get you to it quickly. Maybe another fuzzy match, with a 
configurable number of results?

Tack on any additions here, but for my sanity keep the full list, and try to 
maintain a single clean list. Cheers guys :-)

> I can just see me trying to figure this little lot out with a belly full of
> turkey and "several" beers inside of me 8-P
>
> While we're piling on ideas, does anyone have anymore before I lose my nice
> threaded, sorted mail lists over the next week?
>
> Just a note on perl that Steve A. made. Might be easier for you, but I
> simply never liked the syntax :-) If it wasn't in python, it wouldn't have
> gotten written. Don't mean to come off a zealot, but I find python very
> quick and easy to read and write, very quick and easy to debug (except when
> it is I myself that is the bug ;-) and very featureful (batteries included)
> meaning I don't have to fart around tracking down libraries, installing
> them, then figuring out how to use them. They're included, and very well
> documented. And finally, when I come back to a piece of python after an
> extended period, I grok what it's doing and how as I read it. With perl I
> just see gibberish.
>
> I would seriously recommend taking the hour or so to work through the
> tutorial. It is staggeringly easy to become productive with python in a
> very short period of time.

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RE: [mythtv-users] Recording Bitrates fpr PVR 350

[William]

> Hallo,
> 
> what are usefull settings for recording dayli episodes of 
> cartoon with a 
> pvr-350?
> 
> u choose a bitrate form 2500-3500.
> 
> good or bad idea?

Personally I would record at a bit higher rate (5000-6000) and then
transcode them much smaller and enjoy the quality of the recording. You
might just get a hi-def tv someday and you will thank yourself. If you are
just watching and deleting then whatever rate looks good is good enough.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?

[Brad DerManouelian]

On Dec 21, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Greg Estabrooks wrote:


display. Works with recordings, but displays the token for live tv.
Not sure if there's a way around this, but wanted to mention it.


 I'll take a look at that.


 Haven't looked at this one yet, but I'll check it out tonight. (no  
livetv

while at work using my vmware dev session) :)


I changed it to %STARTTIME% - %ENDTIME%  %STARTDATE% and it gave me  
what I wanted in both recordings and Live TV.
I think those are the tokens I used, anyway. I'm at work and can't  
check it at the moment, but I guessed when I changed it as much as  
I'm guessing now so both guesses are probably equal. :)


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Re: [mythtv-users] Recorded programs icons exist, but aren't shown until deleted and recreated

[Michael T. Dean]

Sasha Z wrote:


The problem before...
http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/1580/before1cv.png

And what happens after I delete the icons...
http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/407/after9lp.png

It doesn't make sense to me. The icons exist and they look fine when
opened up in a normal image viewer. Mythweb just doesn't show them
unless I delete them and try again. All icons created after that
deletion don't work until I delete again and all the icons are
recreated at once.

There's nothing in the mysql or apache log files that is related to this issue.

Thoughts?
 

File system permissions?  Note, also, that MythWeb uses the thumbnails 
in the "image_cache" subdir of the MythWeb application directory, so you 
have a few more files/directories to check.


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Re: [mythtv-users] newbie needin help with PVR-350

[Jason]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 08:42:11AM +, David Watkins wrote:
> On 20/12/05, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hey folks, just set up a new myth box on a PII Celeron 400Mhz box with 
> > 512Megs of memory.
> > mythtv ~ # uname -a
> > Linux mythtv 2.6.14-gentoo-r4 #3 PREEMPT Thu Dec 15 17:57:43 EST 2005 i686 
> > Celeron (Mendocino) Genui
> > neIntel GNU/Linux
> >
> > Ive got: mythtv-0.18.1-r1 and ivtv-0.4.0-r2 installed. The gui menu comes 
> > up fine, but when I
> > "watch tv", the cpu utilzation for mythfrontend goes up to 70-80%, and the 
> > actual video on the TV is
> > choppy every second or so. Ive got xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 with the ivtvdev_drv 
> > for the tv-out.
> >
> 
> Make sure that you've enabled the PVR 350 output in mythfrontend
> setup.  I can't remember where it is because I've not used my PVR 350
> since version 0.16, but there's a tickbox somewhere, probably under
> General or Playback.

Ive doublechecked this and this is selected..

when I start mythtv as the mythtv user, In an Xwindow on a remote system, I get 
the following output.. 
Im guessing its  because Im displaying it over X, but when I watch on tv, I get 
the same bad 
video/audio performance..

2005-12-21 20:35:36.620 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 
5)
2005-12-21 20:35:36.635 Using protocol version 15
2005-12-21 20:35:36.735 Using protocol version 15
2005-12-21 20:35:39.128 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'.
2005-12-21 20:35:39.129 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
Xlib:  extension "XVideo" missing on display "localhost:12.0".
XvQueryExtension failed.
Xlib:  extension "XVideo" missing on display "localhost:12.0".
XvQueryAdaptors failed.
***
* Couldn't find Xv support, falling back to non-Xv mode.
* MythTV performance will be much slower since color
* conversion and scaling will be done in software.
* Consider upgrading your video card or X server if
* you would like better performance.
***
* No XShm support found, MythTV may be very slow and consume lots of cpu.
Xlib:  extension "XVideo" missing on display "localhost:12.0".
Xlib:  extension "XVideo" missing on display "localhost:12.0".
2005-12-21 20:35:39.267 Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it.
You likely won't get any video.
2005-12-21 20:35:40.015 Realtime priority would require SUID as root.
2005-12-21 20:35:40.051 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display "localhost:12.0".
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display "localhost:12.0".
2005-12-21 20:35:40.558 Video timing method: USleep with busy wait
2005-12-21 20:35:40.990 prebuffering pause
2005-12-21 20:35:41.864 prebuffering pause
2005-12-21 20:35:42.787 prebuffering pause
2005-12-21 20:35:43.739 prebuffering pause
* Your system is not capable of displaying the
* full framerate at 600x400 resolution.  Frames
* will be skipped in order to keep the audio and
* video in sync.
2005-12-21 20:35:45.491 prebuffering pause
2005-12-21 20:35:46.778 prebuffering pause
2005-12-21 20:35:47.960 prebuffering pause
2005-12-21 20:35:48.986 prebuffering pause
Xlib:  extension "XVideo" missing on display "localhost:12.0".
Xlib:  extension "XVideo" missing on display "localhost:12.0".
2005-12-21 20:35:49.617 Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it.
You likely won't get any video.
2005-12-21 20:35:49.989 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None


regards,
Jason

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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 16:26, Greg Estabrooks wrote:
> > "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/logo/tv/ww/wset_abc13_lynchburg.jpg"; and the
> > station name "WSET 13 Lynchburg" but doesn't find eityher.
>
>  Ok, this was my fault. I  was pointing at "us" and not at the various
> states as I assumed "us" would include all of them.   I've wipped all of my
> existing icons, and modified my source to to also store the URL in my
> channel table of the icon it found for easily generating a list of them
> when I'm done.
>
>  I also got channel dumps from a few friends with dishnet and have filled
> in several hundred of those channels. So if we use external "master files"
> , say with a default file and a command parameter override to point to a
> specific file then it should be system to pull the callsign name and URL
> out  and generate the files.   I've got about 80% of the icons done from
> the dishnet 110w satellite as well as almost all of the stations available
> on my local Cable ISP.

Been out all day, so I've only just caught up on this thread. My God! You 
"'mericuns" don't half make things complicated!!!

I'll be away from my main system for the next week, but I'll take the guts 
with me on the lappyb and see if I can't make some progress. I'm going to try 
and list the outstanding requests here:

1. Seperate out the country/state code specific parts. I think it is 
additionally a good idea to move the country/state specific settings to here 
too. Then an command line option will be added to pass a country code/state 
field to the program. These files will just be a python file containing 
variables that get imported. It's very easy, and I don't have to go making up 
config file formats ;-) If not passed program will default to a country/state 
code defined in main the program file, as it does now.

2. Add a command line option to restrict to the channels of a particular 
source id. If not passed program behaves as it does now.

3. Attempt a (fuzzy?) match against the callsign of a channel.

4. Add a "Processing web pages, please wait..." message.

5. I can sort of see a way to build composites to deal with us(-il|--in) 
situations. i.e. the command line parameter is a comma seperated list of 
master lists that are all loaded at once. Any thoughts guys, as this is a 
feature you need, not me?

6. Fix the program from wigging out (line 200) when the country code does not 
exist. This will probably be substantially changed anyway, going to seperate 
file master lists/settings.

I can just see me trying to figure this little lot out with a belly full of 
turkey and "several" beers inside of me 8-P

While we're piling on ideas, does anyone have anymore before I lose my nice 
threaded, sorted mail lists over the next week?

Just a note on perl that Steve A. made. Might be easier for you, but I simply 
never liked the syntax :-) If it wasn't in python, it wouldn't have gotten 
written. Don't mean to come off a zealot, but I find python very quick and 
easy to read and write, very quick and easy to debug (except when it is I 
myself that is the bug ;-) and very featureful (batteries included) meaning I 
don't have to fart around tracking down libraries, installing them, then 
figuring out how to use them. They're included, and very well documented. And 
finally, when I come back to a piece of python after an extended period, I 
grok what it's doing and how as I read it. With perl I just see gibberish.

I would seriously recommend taking the hour or so to work through the 
tutorial. It is staggeringly easy to become productive with python in a very 
short period of time.
-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording Bitrates fpr PVR 350

[Michael T. Dean]

Christian Borchmann wrote:

what are usefull settings for recording dayli episodes of cartoon with 
a pvr-350?


u choose a bitrate form 2500-3500.

good or bad idea?


IMHO, if it looks good to you, it's good.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Michael Freeman]

incidentally, is ivtv's lack of embedded vbi due to a hardware issue or
just a driver issue (in other words, if something useful comes of all
this talk, will i have to replace my PVR500 to gain any benefit)?On 12/21/05, Michael Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:The ratings that come with the XMLTV data...are they usually accurate?


I have a crazy dream of somehow using *something* in the tv datastream
to catch overtime FOX games  and *not* record them
automatically.(I have Myth set up to grab Simpsons @ 8, but I have a
whole half hour on the back end as a buffer in case of OT games)

I know I'm probably talking out of my @$$ here, but if ratings came
with the XMLTV feed, would it be possible for Myth to watch the ratings
and only record when the rating info changed to whatever the program
was supposed to be rated? 
My guess is that live football is rating-less, but once the Simpsons
came on, there'd be a ratingand that could be a signal to *save*
the buffer to disk (in my case, I have no qualms about giving Myth 0.75
to 1.5 GB of RAM if need be for something like this).


I envision something like this:
@ 8 PM, Myth starts buffering video & rating info to RAM for 2-3
min...if it doesn't see a rating that matches what XMLTV says it
should, it starts dropping the oldest portion of that 2-3 min buffer.
If it does see the rating match, it drops everything up to that point
and starts spooling the mess to disk.  It then records for the
original length of time, regardless of whether or not that crosses a
"boundary" (e.g. it records 8:15-8:45 and ignores whatever is
*supposed* to be on at 8:30).

Thanks,
Michael L. Freeman

On 12/21/05, Boleslaw Ciesielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
Isaac Richards wrote:>>BTW, does Myth read the /dev/vbi output from a PVR-150?>> Nope, it needs to have the data in the mpeg stream.  myth would have to remux> things, otherwise, and that's slightly more complicated.
For the actual CC support, yes. But if we only want to flag commercialsand the v-chip method works reliably, we could generate the cutlistwhile recording. Imagine Live TV with commercial skip...But I realize that this may not fit into the general commflag paradigm.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Stephen Boddy]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 17:16, Matt wrote:
> Channel "AMC" is currently set to "/home/mythtv/.mythtv/channels/amc.jpg"
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "mythalsig.py", line 200, in ?
>     assign_icons(channel_list, icon_dict)
>   File "mythalsig.py", line 127, in assign_icons
>     if master_list[lyngsat_country_code].has_key(channel_set[0]):
> KeyError: 'us-in'

Ah, I see. Yes, that needs a one line fix, prob:
if master_list.has_key(lyngsat_country_code) and  
master_list[lyngsat_country_code].has_key(channel_set[0]):
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Michael Freeman]

The ratings that come with the XMLTV data...are they usually accurate?

I have a crazy dream of somehow using *something* in the tv datastream
to catch overtime FOX games  and *not* record them
automatically.(I have Myth set up to grab Simpsons @ 8, but I have a
whole half hour on the back end as a buffer in case of OT games)

I know I'm probably talking out of my @$$ here, but if ratings came
with the XMLTV feed, would it be possible for Myth to watch the ratings
and only record when the rating info changed to whatever the program
was supposed to be rated? 
My guess is that live football is rating-less, but once the Simpsons
came on, there'd be a ratingand that could be a signal to *save*
the buffer to disk (in my case, I have no qualms about giving Myth 0.75
to 1.5 GB of RAM if need be for something like this).


I envision something like this:
@ 8 PM, Myth starts buffering video & rating info to RAM for 2-3
min...if it doesn't see a rating that matches what XMLTV says it
should, it starts dropping the oldest portion of that 2-3 min buffer.
If it does see the rating match, it drops everything up to that point
and starts spooling the mess to disk.  It then records for the
original length of time, regardless of whether or not that crosses a
"boundary" (e.g. it records 8:15-8:45 and ignores whatever is
*supposed* to be on at 8:30).

Thanks,
Michael L. Freeman

On 12/21/05, Boleslaw Ciesielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Isaac Richards wrote:>>BTW, does Myth read the /dev/vbi output from a PVR-150?>> Nope, it needs to have the data in the mpeg stream.  myth would have to remux> things, otherwise, and that's slightly more complicated.
For the actual CC support, yes. But if we only want to flag commercialsand the v-chip method works reliably, we could generate the cutlistwhile recording. Imagine Live TV with commercial skip...But I realize that this may not fit into the general commflag paradigm.
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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV Over firewire (HAVI)

[Daniel Kristjansson]

On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 20:01 -0500, Matt Harris wrote:

> Is there any ability (now or planned) to use a mythTV server as a HAVI 
> hard disc device?  For those who don't know what this is, HAVI is 
> basically a device control protocol that some TVs use to control and 
> transport MPEG streams.
AFAIC This not in anyone's development want-to-do list. However,
MythTV does know how to record from other HAVi devices via the 
"Firewire" recorder.

> My particular HDTV (a mitsubishi) has the ability to record to 
> compatible devices over firewire.  The MPEG data and control data are 
> sent over the interface, and as such the TV controls the transport of 
> the recording device, all seamlessly through it's own remote control 
> with on-screen-displays created by the TV and all.
You might be able to do this the other way around, by having MythTV
control the TV. Currently control of only a few HAVi cable boxes have
been implemented in MythTV, but your TV might act like one of them.
You may want to try it and report back to everyone about whether it
worked.

-- Daniel

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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV Over firewire (HAVI)

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 19:25, Matt Harris wrote:
> Anyone?
> What I'm talking about here might be known as something else in the
> MythTV world... this is MPEG2 transport streams that are carried over
> firewire, and is used in some things such as DVHS recorders and some
> cable boxes too.
> Still drawing a blank?
> -Matt
>
> Matt Harris wrote:
> > Thanks to all that have made MythTV such a wonderful program!  I've
> > been running a backend server with an Xbox frontend for almost a year,
> > and it's been working quite well doing analog time-shifted viewing of
> > my families' favorite programs.  Kudos to all!
> > I'm just now getting around to posting this question...
> > Is there any ability (now or planned) to use a mythTV server as a HAVI
> > hard disc device?  For those who don't know what this is, HAVI is
> > basically a device control protocol that some TVs use to control and
> > transport MPEG streams.
> > My particular HDTV (a mitsubishi) has the ability to record to
> > compatible devices over firewire.  The MPEG data and control data are
> > sent over the interface, and as such the TV controls the transport of
> > the recording device, all seamlessly through it's own remote control
> > with on-screen-displays created by the TV and all. There is a windoze
> > program that provides this function, but being a windoze program, it's
> > expensive and doesn't work very well.
> > It would be nice to be able to just run a firewire cable from my TV to
> > the backend server and record the HDTV programs through the TV's
> > built-in scheduling interface.
> > Anyone know what I'm talking about here, or is this a totally new thing?
> > Thanks!
> > -Matt

currently not possible.

Most likely currently not being worked on either.

If one were to save all files as MPEG files compatible that the decoders tv's 
with firewire have built in (so I'm assuming digital TV compatible MPEG2's), 
this would allow these folks to not worry about mpeg decoding for playback, 
and as such would be a really cool feature even without using the control 
stuff.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?

[Michael Fox]

On 12/22/05, Johan Venter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I got it all working, then I configured the sql server to not just
> > bind on localhost. Grabbed knoppmyth and to my surprise I connected to
> > backend and could watch live tv/recorded shows via this quick booted
> > frontend on my laptop.
>
> Well that was easy. It took me a week and a half to get my first Myth
> box working, had to edit kernel drivers etc etc etc.

I'll write a howto in the new year for all those australians who are
interested. Will do it when I get back from Xmas break..

>
> > I am totally impressed and can see this setup being a huge advantage.
> > Certainly means I will consider purchasing the xmltv feed that is
> > available from a company in oz. As long as its upto date and works all
> > the time. I am happy to support them.
>
> I use Development1's feed, which as far as I know is freely available.
> There's a grabber available on the net (do a search for tv_grab_au).

Got a direct link to the latest version, as I will use it instead once
my test account from icetv runs out, however I might just sign up.
Although will consider it in the next few weeks, but I guess I will
use d1 feed until which time I cant.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Zap2It DataDirect programming questions

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 19:17, Greg Mitchell wrote:
> Steve Adeff wrote:
> > Does the Zap2It DataDirect service contain information about all episodes
> > of all shows such that I could search it for information about say Show X
> > Season Y Episode Z, regardless if the show is set to air in the next two
> > weeks?
>
> I don't believe so.  There are websites out there that provide that
> information though - tv.com, epguides.com, episodelist.com all provide
> that sort of info.
>
> Greg

yea, I've already written a tv.com scraper, I'm trying to add shows to the 
Watch Recordings area that I have downloaded/etc, I was hoping to somehow get 
the information from zap2it though since it and Myth track actors and such by 
number apparently, which makes adding things like actors, director, writer, 
etc. more work than I was hoping for ;-)

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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV Over firewire (HAVI)

[Matt Harris]

Anyone?
What I'm talking about here might be known as something else in the 
MythTV world... this is MPEG2 transport streams that are carried over 
firewire, and is used in some things such as DVHS recorders and some 
cable boxes too.

Still drawing a blank?
-Matt

Matt Harris wrote:

Thanks to all that have made MythTV such a wonderful program!  I've 
been running a backend server with an Xbox frontend for almost a year, 
and it's been working quite well doing analog time-shifted viewing of 
my families' favorite programs.  Kudos to all!

I'm just now getting around to posting this question...
Is there any ability (now or planned) to use a mythTV server as a HAVI 
hard disc device?  For those who don't know what this is, HAVI is 
basically a device control protocol that some TVs use to control and 
transport MPEG streams.
My particular HDTV (a mitsubishi) has the ability to record to 
compatible devices over firewire.  The MPEG data and control data are 
sent over the interface, and as such the TV controls the transport of 
the recording device, all seamlessly through it's own remote control 
with on-screen-displays created by the TV and all. There is a windoze 
program that provides this function, but being a windoze program, it's 
expensive and doesn't work very well.
It would be nice to be able to just run a firewire cable from my TV to 
the backend server and record the HDTV programs through the TV's 
built-in scheduling interface.

Anyone know what I'm talking about here, or is this a totally new thing?
Thanks!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Zap2It DataDirect programming questions

[Greg Mitchell]

Steve Adeff wrote:
Does the Zap2It DataDirect service contain information about all episodes of 
all shows such that I could search it for information about say Show X Season 
Y Episode Z, regardless if the show is set to air in the next two weeks?


I don't believe so.  There are websites out there that provide that 
information though - tv.com, epguides.com, episodelist.com all provide 
that sort of info.


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[mythtv-users] Re: Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Boleslaw Ciesielski]

Isaac Richards wrote:

BTW, does Myth read the /dev/vbi output from a PVR-150?


Nope, it needs to have the data in the mpeg stream.  myth would have to remux 
things, otherwise, and that's slightly more complicated.


For the actual CC support, yes. But if we only want to flag commercials 
and the v-chip method works reliably, we could generate the cutlist 
while recording. Imagine Live TV with commercial skip...


But I realize that this may not fit into the general commflag paradigm.

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[mythtv-users] Re: Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Boleslaw Ciesielski]

Kevin Kuphal wrote:
Thanks.  That's helpful.  Looks like section of code in Myth pulls the 
XDS data from the ITVT MPEG and my version of the drivers 0.3.7 weren't 
supporting embedding that.  I'm updating to 0.4 and I'll see how that 
goes.  It seems straightforward enough with the information you sent.  


For the real thing (the vbi patch only bothers with US-TV ratings) look 
in the zvbi source file src/caption.c, function xds_decoder().


http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/zapping/vbi/src/caption.c?rev=HEAD&view=auto

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[mythtv-users] Zap2It DataDirect programming questions

[Steve Adeff]

Does the Zap2It DataDirect service contain information about all episodes of 
all shows such that I could search it for information about say Show X Season 
Y Episode Z, regardless if the show is set to air in the next two weeks?

If so, is it possible to get the information about that episode?

and finally, how would I go about doing this, or finding documentation on how 
to do this?

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Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv errors after dist-upgrade

[Jack Trout]

I was having the same problem on Fedora Core 3, after I upgraded
 
Instead of copying them, seeing the rpms only replace the /lib/modules
 
ln -s /lib/modules/ivtv-fw-enc.bin /lib/firmware/ivtv-fw-enc.bin
ln -s /lib/modules/ivtv-fw-dec.bin /lib/firmware/ivtv-fw-dec.bin
 
This way in future upgrades if the firmware upgrades it will simultainously upgrade both.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] recommended ivtv and firmaware versions for PVR-500

[Micha Kersloot]

Hi,

Marius Schrecker schreef:

Hi,

Op 19-dec-2005, om 11:29 heeft Marius Schrecker het volgende geschreven:



Hi,

Now that sound is (kinda) working I can devote myself to fixing the
terrible quality from my PVR-500.


As i'm struggeling with some quality issues myself, are you sure the
problems ar at the input side?

Met vriendelijke groet,

Micha Kersloot


Ooops! Almost forgot! I had some trouble compiling the 0.3.8 ivtv modules
(from .deb) on kernel 2.6.14. Had to change a few lines of code to get it
to work.so perhaps it doesn't (work) ;-)...
That might be a good reason to go for 0.4.x


I looks like there are no technical problems with the 0.4.0 version. Or 
better, these are the only drivers i've used so far.


The problems I have is that the quality of the picture is noticable 
worse than the broadcast quality. Without deinterlacing, there is quite 
a lag in fast moving objects or a talk host who moves his head while he 
talks, my girlfriend calls it 'octopus images' when arms and or legs are 
involved. With interlacing the lag is less noticable, but the image does 
shock now and then (like sometimes 1 or 2 frames are cut out).


I've got the idea it's problem with 25Hz pal and fglrx wich sets the 
video-card to 60Hz, but i'm not sure. I'm not able to use the bob 
deinterlace filter either, that looks like 1 frame is stuck and mixed 
with the video.


I've got no idea if it helps to capture the pal stream with 30fps 
framerate (to match the 60Hz output). But well let's try that ;-)


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Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv errors after dist-upgrade

[David Rees]

On 12/21/05, sdk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/21/05, Jason Mollman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Copy your firmware files to /lib/firmware or whatever your distro's
> > hotplug directory is.
>
> Thanks Jason. I copied the following three files from /lib/modules to
> /lib/firmware and rebooted. That took care of the problem.

Yeah, I had the same problem yesterday. It'd be nice if the
ivtv-firmware RPMs did this for you...

-Dave
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Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?

[Johan Venter]

I got it all working, then I configured the sql server to not just
bind on localhost. Grabbed knoppmyth and to my surprise I connected to
backend and could watch live tv/recorded shows via this quick booted
frontend on my laptop.


Well that was easy. It took me a week and a half to get my first Myth 
box working, had to edit kernel drivers etc etc etc.



I am totally impressed and can see this setup being a huge advantage.
Certainly means I will consider purchasing the xmltv feed that is
available from a company in oz. As long as its upto date and works all
the time. I am happy to support them.


I use Development1's feed, which as far as I know is freely available. 
There's a grabber available on the net (do a search for tv_grab_au).


Regards,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Isaac Richards]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 17:58, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> Isaac Richards wrote:
> >On Wednesday 21 December 2005 17:39, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> >>Boleslaw Ciesielski wrote:
> >>>Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> In looking further, recent SVN changes have the skeleton for XDS
> parsing but nothing is done with the data.  My PVR-150 is putting
> data into /dev/vbi so I think my backend is set up for capturing.
> This may be my Christmas project to see if I can properly decode the
> XDS V-chip information at least in debugging output to see what it
>  says.
> >>>
> >>>The following patch against the vbi utility (from ivtv) will let you
> >>>do some quick testing outside of myth.
> >>
> >>Thanks.  That's helpful.  Looks like section of code in Myth pulls the
> >>XDS data from the ITVT MPEG and my version of the drivers 0.3.7 weren't
> >>supporting embedding that.  I'm updating to 0.4 and I'll see how that
> >>goes.  It seems straightforward enough with the information you sent.
> >>I'll post my progress.
> >
> >ivtv doesn't support embedded vbi (at least for ntsc) on the 150/500.
>
> Well, that will make this process much harder :)
>
> I'll try it out on my MBE with my two BTTV cards.  They seem to be
> dumping data to /dev/vbi also.

That should work.

> BTW, does Myth read the /dev/vbi output from a PVR-150?

Nope, it needs to have the data in the mpeg stream.  myth would have to remux 
things, otherwise, and that's slightly more complicated.

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Re: [mythtv-users] fglrx Pal, 50Hz

[Micha Kersloot]

cardboil schreef:
I'd been struggling with a similar issue in my machine (ATI Mobility 
Radeon X300 with S-Video out), using the fglrx driver.


The key was to include the following options my my xorg.conf (I am on 
Myth SVN on FC4):



Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
Option "DesktopSetup" "clone"
Option "OverlayOnCRTC2" "1"


Of course, this means that you will get good video (with xv support) on 
the TV, but a blue screen on your primary display (monitor or, in my 
case, laptop LCD).


I do not have two displays. There is only a tv connected and that's used 
as my primary display. I do not have any problems with getting the image 
on my tv. I'm only strugling with the quality of the picture.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?

[Michael Fox]

On 12/22/05, Johan Venter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Indeed, I install Myth into it's own little sandbox at /usr/local/mythtv
> to make it super easy to remove/move/backup etc, and all you have to do
> is make sure the lib directory is locatable by ld.

Well I installed Ubuntu 5.10 lastnight for about the third time. Then
updated it to point to multiverse/universe packages.

Got my dvb card going with default installed kernel, then apt-get
installed the mythweb and mythtv from externally.

I got it all working, then I configured the sql server to not just
bind on localhost. Grabbed knoppmyth and to my surprise I connected to
backend and could watch live tv/recorded shows via this quick booted
frontend on my laptop.

So grabbed a precompiled osx binary of mythfrontend 0.18.1 and to my
surprise it worked on this also. Even works on my wifes Powerbook with
wireless 802.11g (although in the same room as the AP, so over coming
days I will test it from various rooms to determine if the throughput
is still enough).

I am totally impressed and can see this setup being a huge advantage.
Certainly means I will consider purchasing the xmltv feed that is
available from a company in oz. As long as its upto date and works all
the time. I am happy to support them.

Now I need to purchase another dvb card and see if i can squeeze into
the pci slot next to the existing one, if not I might have to remove
the fx5200 from the backend machine and shuffle cards over (so the 2
dvb's have a pci slot between them).

My backend is not going to be connected to a tv, so fx5200 is not
really needed. I guess I will experiment in the near future. I am due
to go away tomorrow, so I guess I wont be playing for another week or
so.

Excellent work to the developers who produced mythtv, fantastic
application. I can't wait to get more involved and learn more about
the actually settings I am yet to explore.

I'll have to do my bit and produce a howto for my dvb card and ubuntu
5.10 for some of the aussie folks.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Kevin Kuphal]

Isaac Richards wrote:


On Wednesday 21 December 2005 17:39, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
 


Boleslaw Ciesielski wrote:
   


Kevin Kuphal wrote:
 


In looking further, recent SVN changes have the skeleton for XDS
parsing but nothing is done with the data.  My PVR-150 is putting
data into /dev/vbi so I think my backend is set up for capturing.
This may be my Christmas project to see if I can properly decode the
XDS V-chip information at least in debugging output to see what it says.
   


The following patch against the vbi utility (from ivtv) will let you
do some quick testing outside of myth.
 


Thanks.  That's helpful.  Looks like section of code in Myth pulls the
XDS data from the ITVT MPEG and my version of the drivers 0.3.7 weren't
supporting embedding that.  I'm updating to 0.4 and I'll see how that
goes.  It seems straightforward enough with the information you sent.
I'll post my progress.
   



ivtv doesn't support embedded vbi (at least for ntsc) on the 150/500.
 


Well, that will make this process much harder :)

I'll try it out on my MBE with my two BTTV cards.  They seem to be 
dumping data to /dev/vbi also.


BTW, does Myth read the /dev/vbi output from a PVR-150?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Isaac Richards]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 17:39, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> Boleslaw Ciesielski wrote:
> > Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> >> In looking further, recent SVN changes have the skeleton for XDS
> >> parsing but nothing is done with the data.  My PVR-150 is putting
> >> data into /dev/vbi so I think my backend is set up for capturing.
> >> This may be my Christmas project to see if I can properly decode the
> >> XDS V-chip information at least in debugging output to see what it says.
> >
> > The following patch against the vbi utility (from ivtv) will let you
> > do some quick testing outside of myth.
>
> Thanks.  That's helpful.  Looks like section of code in Myth pulls the
> XDS data from the ITVT MPEG and my version of the drivers 0.3.7 weren't
> supporting embedding that.  I'm updating to 0.4 and I'll see how that
> goes.  It seems straightforward enough with the information you sent.
> I'll post my progress.

ivtv doesn't support embedded vbi (at least for ntsc) on the 150/500.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Help getting KWorld/VStream XPert DVB-T to work

[Joacim J]

yes, it fells pretty good but still some way to go ;-)

I have also thought of skipping mplayer and go for mythtv. I have made
a channel scan with dvbscan and it found a number of channels (43 if
remember correct).

BUT, I dont have /etc/udev/permissions.d at all at my FC4 system. The
udev contains:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] udev]# ls -al
total 60
drwxr-xr-x   6 root root  4096 Nov 28 18:02 .
drwxr-xr-x  84 root root 12288 Dec 21 22:16 ..
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Nov 28 20:49 devices
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Nov 28 18:02 makedev.d
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Dec 20 21:55 rules.d
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Nov 28 18:02 scripts
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   384 Sep 30 14:35 udev.conf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] udev]#

Should I create the directory "/etc/udev/permission.d" or should I
place the file in a other place?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Kevin Kuphal]

Boleslaw Ciesielski wrote:


Kevin Kuphal wrote:

In looking further, recent SVN changes have the skeleton for XDS 
parsing but nothing is done with the data.  My PVR-150 is putting 
data into /dev/vbi so I think my backend is set up for capturing.  
This may be my Christmas project to see if I can properly decode the 
XDS V-chip information at least in debugging output to see what it says.



The following patch against the vbi utility (from ivtv) will let you 
do some quick testing outside of myth.


Thanks.  That's helpful.  Looks like section of code in Myth pulls the 
XDS data from the ITVT MPEG and my version of the drivers 0.3.7 weren't 
supporting embedding that.  I'm updating to 0.4 and I'll see how that 
goes.  It seems straightforward enough with the information you sent.  
I'll post my progress.


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Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv errors after dist-upgrade

[sdk]

On 12/21/05, Jason Mollman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also make sure your firmware files are named  v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw, and
> v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw. Just copy, or link ivtv-fw-dec.bin and
> ivtv-fw-enc.bin to the new file names.

There were links from v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw --> ivtv-fw-dec.bin  and 
v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw  --> ivtv-fw-enc.bin  but the links were broken
because the .bin files were not actually present in /lib/firmware.

I also copied v4l-cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin into /lib/firmware.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Announcement: New debian repository

[Isaac Richards]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 17:32, casey dunn wrote:
> apt-get fails under Dapper due to libasound 2 < 1.0.10 (ubuntu packages
> 1.0.9).  I haven't taken the time to find why the dependency isn't ment and
> won't till tomarow but, thought I'd pass along the info anyway.

Could just use the packages that are in multiverse..

Isaac
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Re: [mythtv-users] Announcement: New debian repository

[casey dunn]

apt-get fails under Dapper due to libasound 2 < 1.0.10 (ubuntu packages 1.0.9).  I haven't taken the time to find why the dependency isn't ment and won't till tomarow but, thought I'd pass along the info anyway.
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Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv errors after dist-upgrade

[sdk]

On 12/21/05, Jason Mollman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Copy your firmware files to /lib/firmware or whatever your distro's
> hotplug directory is.
>
> - J
>

Thanks Jason. I copied the following three files from /lib/modules to
/lib/firmware and rebooted. That took care of the problem.

ivtv-fw-dec.bin
ivtv-fw-enc.bin
v4l-cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin
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Re: [mythtv-users] Help getting KWorld/VStream XPert DVB-T to work

[David Watkins]

On 21/12/05, Joacim J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/21/05, David Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 21/12/05, Joacim J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 12/21/05, David Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On 21/12/05, Joacim J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Thanks anyway ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you have any idea about the questions I wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't have the /dev/dvb/... or the adapter/frontend aren't
> > > > > registered...is it because the /dev/dvb/...isn't created?? When/Where
> > > > > are /dev/dvb/... created?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I missed the beginning of this thread, but have you looked at which
> > > > dvb modules are being loaded?
> > > >
> > > > /sbin/lsmod
> > > >
> > > > For my Nova-t card I had to manually modprobe cx88_dvb (I think that's
> > > > the correct name) because the wrong [blackbird] module was being
> > > > automatically loaded.
> > > >
> > > > It was the
> > > >
> > > > /sbin/modprobe cx88_dvb
> > > >
> > > > command that created the /dev/dvb/adapter stuff
> > > >
> > > > ( look in dmesg for errors / success messages)
> > > >
> > > > I'm not saying that this is the module for you (though it's worth a
> > > > try) but you need to find out which module it is you need, and check
> > > > that it is being loaded.
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > Here I got something interesting.
> > >
> > > 1. Fresh booted machine and the dmesg is not showing any DVB info
> > > 2. Result of /sbin/lsmod command is below
> > > 3. Executed "/sbin/modprobe cx88_dvb"
> > > 4. dmesg now show som interesting output, see below at the end. And I get:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -al /dev/dvb/adapter0/
> > > total 0
> > > drwxr-xr-x  2 root root120 Dec 21 12:26 .
> > > drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 60 Dec 21 12:26 ..
> > > crw-rw  1 root root 212, 4 Dec 21 12:26 demux0
> > > crw-rw  1 root root 212, 5 Dec 21 12:26 dvr0
> > > crw-rw  1 root root 212, 3 Dec 21 12:26 frontend0
> > > crw-rw  1 root root 212, 7 Dec 21 12:26 net0
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#
> > >
> > > Now, how can I make persistent? I mean so the module 'cx88_dvb' is
> > > loaded every time.
> >
> > Well for me, all I had to do was prevent the cx88_blackbird module
> > loading, and then my system automatically loaded the cx88_dvb instead.
> >
> > I notice that you've also got the blackbird module in there so maybe
> > that would work for you too.
> >
> > As you've found out loading the cx88_dvb on top doesn't seem to cause
> > any problems so you can just force it to load.
> >
> > As for how to do either of the above, I'm afraid I'd have to look up
> > the way I did it tonight and I suspect it's distribution dependent
> > anyway.  I'm running Fedora Core 3, so if you don't get any joy before
> > I get home tonight I can let you know my solution.
> >
> > Post back with the flavour of linux that you are using, and I suspect
> > someone else here will be able to help you.
> >
> > In the meantime you could look at using /etc/modprobe.conf or rc.local
> > or rc.sysinit (as described in Jarod Wilson's guide to mythtv on
> > Fedora)
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> I have Fedora Core 4 with kernel 2.6.14-1.1653_FC4.
>
> I have tried to add the following in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> /sbin/modprobe --remove cx88_blackbird
> /sbin/modeprobe cx88_dvb
>
> It seems that the cx88_dvb module is loaded and blackbird is not, at boot 
> time.
>
> Is this the correct way of doing this??
>
> Earlier I did som testing with dvbscan, tzap and dvbstream and I get
> some result that I haven't got before but no picture.
>
> When running dvbstream with command:
>
> ./dvbstream -o -ps -qam 64 -cr 2_3 1018 1010 | mplayer -
> it says:
> Reading from stdin...
> and nothing happens
>
> If I have started
> tzap "SVT1"
> before (that puts out some data every second that says FE_HAS_LOCK)
> and then run dvbstream with:
> ./dvbstream -o -ps -qam 64 -cr 2_3 1018 1010 | mplayer -
> it also says:
> Audiostream: Layer: 2 BRate: 256 kb/s  Freq: 48 kHz
> but  no mplayer appears.

Hmm, sounds like you're close.  Are you sure mplayer is installed
properly.  It might be worth skipping the mplayer stage and trying to
do a channel scan in mythtv?
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[mythtv-users] Oversaturation / Bleeding

[Johan Venter]

Hi guys,

Been having a problem with oversaturation and colour bleeding in LiveTV 
and being recorded into my recordings.


I've recently upgraded to SVN 8321 and I've been having the problem 
since then.


I've ruled out a bunch of stuff:
   1. It's not my TV settings - playing videos via MythVideo (through
  mplayer using -vo xv) look fine
   2. It's not my X / nVidia driver settings - for the same reason, also
  that I haven't changed them for close on 6 months and have never
  had this problem before (and yes, I have tried tweaking with
  nvidia-settings to no avail).
   3. It's not my DVB feed from the antenna - LiveTV looks perfect on my
  laptop running the same SVN version.

So that only leaves this particular mythfrontend installation. I have 
tried rendering with 'Standard', 'Standard XVMC' (my preferred choice) 
and libmpeg2 with no effect. I have tried disabling and enabling 
interlacing.


I know Myth can pay attention to XV picture controls, but I'm not 
entirely sure where I set XV picture controls, or even whether it will 
help (as mplayer doesn't have the same problem).


Any suggestions?

Regards,

Johan.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Help getting KWorld/VStream XPert DVB-T to work

[David Watkins]

On 21/12/05, Joacim J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have tested to enter the MythTV setup (as mythtv user) but when
> trying to add the TV card I get permission denied on the card and when
> looking at the /dev/dvb/* it's owned by root.root.
>
> How can I make mythtv.mythtv to get permission on that resource?

as Phill said, earlier on in this thread,

create a file called 20-dvb.permissions in /etc/udev/permissions.d

containing the single line

dvb/adapter[0-3]*/*:root:mythtv:0666
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Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv errors after dist-upgrade

[Jason Mollman]

Also make sure your firmware files are named  v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw, and 
v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw. Just copy, or link ivtv-fw-dec.bin and 
ivtv-fw-enc.bin to the new file names.


- J
sdk wrote:

There were a decent amount of new packages, so I decided to update
with apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade on FC3.

capture card: PVR-350
Kernel(which was upgraded during the install): 2.6.12-1.1381_FC3

The results were not encouraging! Any help would be much appreciated.

I get this error in dmesg:

ivtv:   START INIT IVTV 
ivtv:  version 0.4.1 (tagged release) loading
ivtv:  Linux version: 2.6.12-1.1381_FC3 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4
ivtv:  In case of problems please include the debug info between
ivtv:  the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
ivtv:  any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 350 card (cx23415 based)
PCI: Found IRQ 3 for device :02:0a.0
tveeprom: ivtv version
tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48132, rev = K268, serial# = 7614554
tveeprom: tuner = LG TAPE H001F MK3 (idx = 68, type = 47)
tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 0x08, v4l2 = 0x1000)
tveeprom: audio processor = MSP4448 (type = 1b)
tveeprom: decoder processor = SAA7115 (type = 13)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50]
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
saa7115 0-0021: ivtv driver
saa7115 0-0021: saa7115 found @ 0x42 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=saa7115, addr=21]
saa7127 0-0044: ivtv driver
saa7127 0-0044: saa7129 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=saa7127, addr=44]
msp3400 0-0040: ivtv driver
msp3400 0-0040: chip=MSP4448G-A2 +nicam +simple +simpler +radio mode=simpler
msp3400 0-0040: msp34xxg daemon started
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=MSP4448G-A2, addr=40]
tda9885/6/7: chip found @ 0x86
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tda9887, addr=43]
ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
ivtv0: did you put the firmware in the hotplug firmware directory?
ivtv0 warning: failed loading encoder firmware
ivtv0 warning: Error loading firmware -3!
ivtv0: Error -3 initializing firmware.
ivtv0: Error -12 on initialization
ivtv: probe of :02:0a.0 failed with error -12
ivtv:    END INIT IVTV  


and this in /var/log/messages:

Dec 21 16:17:18 localhost kernel: ivtv-osd:  ivtv_fb_card_id parameter
is out of range (valid range: 0--1)
Dec 21 16:17:22 localhost gdm[4327]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal
X error - Restarting :0
Dec 21 16:17:27 localhost gdm[4417]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal
X error - Restarting :0
Dec 21 16:17:32 localhost gdm[4463]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal
X error - Restarting :0
Dec 21 16:17:32 localhost gdm[4208]: deal_with_x_crashes: Running the
XKeepsCrashing script


And some more  ( hopefully relevant info):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# ls -l /lib/modules/
total 696
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   4096 Apr  4  2005 2.6.10-1.766_FC3
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root   4096 Nov 24 22:59 2.6.10-1.770_FC3
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root   4096 Dec 21 16:17 2.6.12-1.1381_FC3
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   4096 Apr  4  2005 2.6.9-1.667
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 262144 Dec 20 05:19 ivtv-fw-dec.bin
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 262144 Dec 20 05:19 ivtv-fw-enc.bin
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 Dec 21 16:11 v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw ->
ivtv-fw-dec.bin
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 Dec 21 16:11 v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw ->
ivtv-fw-enc.bin
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 155648 Nov 15 15:27 v4l-cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin
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Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv errors after dist-upgrade

[Jason Mollman]

Copy your firmware files to /lib/firmware or whatever your distro's 
hotplug directory is.


- J

sdk wrote:

There were a decent amount of new packages, so I decided to update
with apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade on FC3.

capture card: PVR-350
Kernel(which was upgraded during the install): 2.6.12-1.1381_FC3

The results were not encouraging! Any help would be much appreciated.

I get this error in dmesg:

ivtv:   START INIT IVTV 
ivtv:  version 0.4.1 (tagged release) loading
ivtv:  Linux version: 2.6.12-1.1381_FC3 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4
ivtv:  In case of problems please include the debug info between
ivtv:  the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
ivtv:  any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 350 card (cx23415 based)
PCI: Found IRQ 3 for device :02:0a.0
tveeprom: ivtv version
tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48132, rev = K268, serial# = 7614554
tveeprom: tuner = LG TAPE H001F MK3 (idx = 68, type = 47)
tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 0x08, v4l2 = 0x1000)
tveeprom: audio processor = MSP4448 (type = 1b)
tveeprom: decoder processor = SAA7115 (type = 13)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50]
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
saa7115 0-0021: ivtv driver
saa7115 0-0021: saa7115 found @ 0x42 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=saa7115, addr=21]
saa7127 0-0044: ivtv driver
saa7127 0-0044: saa7129 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=saa7127, addr=44]
msp3400 0-0040: ivtv driver
msp3400 0-0040: chip=MSP4448G-A2 +nicam +simple +simpler +radio mode=simpler
msp3400 0-0040: msp34xxg daemon started
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=MSP4448G-A2, addr=40]
tda9885/6/7: chip found @ 0x86
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tda9887, addr=43]
ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
ivtv0: did you put the firmware in the hotplug firmware directory?
ivtv0 warning: failed loading encoder firmware
ivtv0 warning: Error loading firmware -3!
ivtv0: Error -3 initializing firmware.
ivtv0: Error -12 on initialization
ivtv: probe of :02:0a.0 failed with error -12
ivtv:    END INIT IVTV  


and this in /var/log/messages:

Dec 21 16:17:18 localhost kernel: ivtv-osd:  ivtv_fb_card_id parameter
is out of range (valid range: 0--1)
Dec 21 16:17:22 localhost gdm[4327]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal
X error - Restarting :0
Dec 21 16:17:27 localhost gdm[4417]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal
X error - Restarting :0
Dec 21 16:17:32 localhost gdm[4463]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal
X error - Restarting :0
Dec 21 16:17:32 localhost gdm[4208]: deal_with_x_crashes: Running the
XKeepsCrashing script


And some more  ( hopefully relevant info):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# ls -l /lib/modules/
total 696
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   4096 Apr  4  2005 2.6.10-1.766_FC3
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root   4096 Nov 24 22:59 2.6.10-1.770_FC3
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root   4096 Dec 21 16:17 2.6.12-1.1381_FC3
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   4096 Apr  4  2005 2.6.9-1.667
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 262144 Dec 20 05:19 ivtv-fw-dec.bin
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 262144 Dec 20 05:19 ivtv-fw-enc.bin
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 Dec 21 16:11 v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw ->
ivtv-fw-dec.bin
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 Dec 21 16:11 v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw ->
ivtv-fw-enc.bin
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 155648 Nov 15 15:27 v4l-cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin
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Re: [mythtv-users] So many options...which is best?

[Jeff Simpson]

So my initial thought was to make the family room system the backend and run all of the encoders in there. (PVR500?) The frontend in the kitchen wouldn't have an encoder. But I don't like the idea of ugly homemade IR devices or the unnecessary cost for a decent commercial IR remote & receiver. Would it just make more sense to put a PVR 150 in each system to use the remotes with the encoders? I am leaning towards this now.
If you want to install a PVR150 JUST for the remote, I suppose that is your perrogative, but it seems wasteful to me. Why not try one of the following:- 
http://www.irblaster.info/receiver.html makes inexpensive ($12 or so) IR receivers that look very professional and work great.- take an ugly IR receiver and hide it behind IR glass (like they do on consumer electronics (VCR, CD Player, etc). Nobody says you have to put the IR receiver on the outside of the case, you just have to put it somewhere that you can reach it with the remote. If you're worried about cables and ugliness, imagine how ugly having to run the CableTV cable into the kitchen will be compared to just running a network cable (or using wifi)

I'm also leaning towards using FC4 again (I looked at Knoppmyth, but their forums say to stay away from USB keyboard/mouse and SATA drives--a bit disconcerting of a notice in the year 2005.)  Does anybody who has set up multiple integrated Myth boxes have better suggestions?  Thanks for all input -- much appreciated.
If there are distributions saying that USB mice/keyboards and SATA drives pose a problem, I suggest going with a more up-to-date distribution, or at least one that is easy to upgrade down the line. As much of a PITA gentoo is to install for the first time, it's guaranteed to support the latest and greatest of everything, because packages are available for gentoo as soon as there is a tarball, for the most part. Myth, ivtv, lirc all work great in gentoo without any major headaches, no having to beg for special packages that will work, since gentoo is gentoo, the same package will work on any gentoo, no matter when you install it.
I don't have multiple mythboxes, but I do have a single mythbox performing multiple tasks, and it was a breeze to set up with gentoo (I had gentoo already set up before starting with myth).
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[mythtv-users] Recording Bitrates fpr PVR 350

[Christian Borchmann]

Hallo,

what are usefull settings for recording dayli episodes of cartoon with a 
pvr-350?


u choose a bitrate form 2500-3500.

good or bad idea?

thanks

christian
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Re: [mythtv-users] Help getting KWorld/VStream XPert DVB-T to work

[Joacim J]

I have tested to enter the MythTV setup (as mythtv user) but when
trying to add the TV card I get permission denied on the card and when
looking at the /dev/dvb/* it's owned by root.root.

How can I make mythtv.mythtv to get permission on that resource?

BR
Joacim
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Re: [mythtv-users] A/V Sync issue (searched through list, and followed howto.)

[John Yonn]

Joseph,
 KDE isn't installed, neither is aRts. Never were, it's a pretty vanilla LFS system. 
ok, so running top over ssh. 
disabled tv out, monitor plugged in. Started the backend, then the
frontend. cpu @ 0.0. selected watch live tv. cpu at 11% mem @ 14.6%
(+/- .4%)
and enabling tv out:
starts up at 0.0. Selecting watch live tv jumps to 11.0% cpu 14.4% mem. (+/- .4%) 

Not what I'd call a drastic difference.

I'm still at a total loss, gonna check the nvidia forums to see if I
can get the 6629 driver working, maybe it'll help, but if not I'll have
eliminated one more thing to try.

Any other suggestions?


Thanks,
John
On 12/21/05, Joseph A. Caputo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 2:19, John Yonn wrote:> Total strangeness. Apparently the problem is with the nvidia driver> I'm> using. or so it seems. I just turned off the tv out and plugged in a
> regular> monitor for the first time since I finished building XFree86.> Surprisingly> theres a huge difference. I'm not quite sure why. I'm using an> Albatron> FX5200LP. Seemed like a cheap nvidia 5200 with a tv-out at the time.
> and I'm> using the NVIDIA 1.0.8174 drivers that nvidia provides. Anyone know if> theres a bug in that version, or have any suggestions of a known-good> version?Well, I think this avenue might be a red herring.  However... I suppose
it's possible that Xv is not working on your TV-out.  If that's so,then you'd be doing video scaling in software, which would take moreprocessing power, and possible cause the video to lag the audio.  Youcan check whether Xv is working by running "xvinfo".  Also, run 'top'
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[mythtv-users] ivtv errors after dist-upgrade

[sdk]

There were a decent amount of new packages, so I decided to update
with apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade on FC3.

capture card: PVR-350
Kernel(which was upgraded during the install): 2.6.12-1.1381_FC3

The results were not encouraging! Any help would be much appreciated.

I get this error in dmesg:

ivtv:   START INIT IVTV 
ivtv:  version 0.4.1 (tagged release) loading
ivtv:  Linux version: 2.6.12-1.1381_FC3 686 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-3.4
ivtv:  In case of problems please include the debug info between
ivtv:  the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
ivtv:  any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 350 card (cx23415 based)
PCI: Found IRQ 3 for device :02:0a.0
tveeprom: ivtv version
tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48132, rev = K268, serial# = 7614554
tveeprom: tuner = LG TAPE H001F MK3 (idx = 68, type = 47)
tveeprom: tuner fmt = NTSC(M) (eeprom = 0x08, v4l2 = 0x1000)
tveeprom: audio processor = MSP4448 (type = 1b)
tveeprom: decoder processor = SAA7115 (type = 13)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50]
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
saa7115 0-0021: ivtv driver
saa7115 0-0021: saa7115 found @ 0x42 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=saa7115, addr=21]
saa7127 0-0044: ivtv driver
saa7127 0-0044: saa7129 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=saa7127, addr=44]
msp3400 0-0040: ivtv driver
msp3400 0-0040: chip=MSP4448G-A2 +nicam +simple +simpler +radio mode=simpler
msp3400 0-0040: msp34xxg daemon started
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=MSP4448G-A2, addr=40]
tda9885/6/7: chip found @ 0x86
ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tda9887, addr=43]
ivtv0: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
ivtv0: did you put the firmware in the hotplug firmware directory?
ivtv0 warning: failed loading encoder firmware
ivtv0 warning: Error loading firmware -3!
ivtv0: Error -3 initializing firmware.
ivtv0: Error -12 on initialization
ivtv: probe of :02:0a.0 failed with error -12
ivtv:    END INIT IVTV  


and this in /var/log/messages:

Dec 21 16:17:18 localhost kernel: ivtv-osd:  ivtv_fb_card_id parameter
is out of range (valid range: 0--1)
Dec 21 16:17:22 localhost gdm[4327]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal
X error - Restarting :0
Dec 21 16:17:27 localhost gdm[4417]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal
X error - Restarting :0
Dec 21 16:17:32 localhost gdm[4463]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal
X error - Restarting :0
Dec 21 16:17:32 localhost gdm[4208]: deal_with_x_crashes: Running the
XKeepsCrashing script


And some more  ( hopefully relevant info):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# ls -l /lib/modules/
total 696
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   4096 Apr  4  2005 2.6.10-1.766_FC3
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root   4096 Nov 24 22:59 2.6.10-1.770_FC3
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root   4096 Dec 21 16:17 2.6.12-1.1381_FC3
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   4096 Apr  4  2005 2.6.9-1.667
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 262144 Dec 20 05:19 ivtv-fw-dec.bin
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 262144 Dec 20 05:19 ivtv-fw-enc.bin
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 Dec 21 16:11 v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw ->
ivtv-fw-dec.bin
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 Dec 21 16:11 v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw ->
ivtv-fw-enc.bin
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 155648 Nov 15 15:27 v4l-cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin
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Re: [mythtv-users] Guide 'Unknown' channels

[Mercury Morris]

On 12/21/05, Kirby Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I receive all the 'major' (CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, etc) channels on HD (Ihave just an HD5000 card), but for most of the HD channels I get, theguide shows 'unknown' as the content.  I KNOW that the HD content is the
same as the NTSC content...  How can I cause the channel guide to showcontent instead of Unknown?  Is there something I'm doing wrong with mychannel guide setup?  (all the other channels show up fine).  Or do I
need to 'fudge' things and associate one channel's information that I AMgetting with the 'unknown' channels?
Perhaps the XMLTVID is missing from the Channel data.  At least, that's what I have found when the guide shows 'unknown'.

When this happens, I enter mythtv-setup, on into the Channel Editor, and add the XMLTVID by typing it into the space provided.

Ah Ha!  You ask: Where can you find the XMLTVID?  Well, one
easy way is to bring up the list of channels using the website
http://zap2it.com, enter the zipcode appropriately, and wait for the
channel listings to appear.  Then, if you hold the mouse pointer
over the channel call-letters (at the left of the screen), the XMLTVID
will appear, somewhere.  Using Mozilla, it appears at the bottom
of the screen.  With Opera, it appears in a little box under the
mouse pointer.

As soon as enough mythfilldatabase runs are completed, you should start
to see fewer 'unknown' boxes and more boxes with program information.

One last thought:  When I use zap2it, the analog stations are
always listed first.  So, I have to click on the 'CLICK HERE TO
VIEW YOUR LOCAL DIGITAL STATIONS' line to get the digital stations.

-- 
MM

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[mythtv-users] Default channel when entering LiveTV

[Dag Nygren]

Hi,

In SVN 8306 the default channel when entering
LiveTV seems to always be the same. Previously it was
the channel you last watched.
Is this intended behavior or a bug that has sneaked in?

Dag

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[mythtv-users] Default subtitle language always none

[Dag Nygren]

Me again,

just noticed that the default subtitle language in my SVN 8306
installation is always "none" whatever I setup as language.

Dag

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RE: [mythtv-users] Is common Interface supposed to work?

[Wim Fokkens]

Ok done that

 

I got a log file where I
can see MythTV making cals to the CAM. I was
getting answers like please insert your smart card.

 

I tried sorts of cam’s
and I the only seca 2 compatible cam that worked for the KNC1 sat card was the Aston
1.07 (Aston 1.05, Matrix revolitions, Mediaguard did not work) After this I
replaced the KNC sat card for a technotrend Budget S and all cam’s are
working now.

 

Thanks for the help

 

Wim

 









Van:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Niels Dybdahl
Verzonden: woensdag 7 december
2005 22:42
Aan: Discussion
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Onderwerp: Re: [mythtv-users] Is
common Interface supposed to work?



 





You could try running myhtbackend with:

mythbackend -v siparser > /var/log/mythbackendsi.txt for a while and 
then take a look at that text file.
Since I am a absolute Linux newbie could you explain this to me like you
would explain it to a 5 year old. So to what terminal do I have to go, do I
have to be logged in as root? And how do I stop the backend, before 
restarting it with these parameters.






You can go to any terminal window.
Switch to root with the command:

  su -

As root you can terminate most running processes. You can see that your are
running as root, by the prompt changing from $ (non-root) to # (root). 
Kill the running mythbackend with:

  killall mythbackend

Then run Johans command:

  mythbackend -v siparser > /var/log/mythbackendsi.txt

>From a second terminal window you can open the log file with any editor of your
choice. If you are not familiar with any, then nano and pico are good choices,
because they have a small onscreen help menus. If you are familiar with
WordStar, then joe is a good choice. So f.ex:

  nano /var/log/mythbackendsi.txt

Niels Dybdahl





 






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Re: [mythtv-users] recommended ivtv and firmaware versions for PVR-500

[Marius Schrecker]

> Hi,
>
> Op 19-dec-2005, om 11:29 heeft Marius Schrecker het volgende geschreven:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  Now that sound is (kinda) working I can devote myself to fixing the
>> terrible quality from my PVR-500.
>
> As i'm struggeling with some quality issues myself, are you sure the
> problems ar at the input side?
>
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Micha Kersloot
Ooops! Almost forgot! I had some trouble compiling the 0.3.8 ivtv modules
(from .deb) on kernel 2.6.14. Had to change a few lines of code to get it
to work.so perhaps it doesn't (work) ;-)...
That might be a good reason to go for 0.4.x


Marius
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[mythtv-users] MythMusic skipping

[David Peeters]

I've searched several boards and haven't found any usefull information regarding my problem. when playing .mp3s or ogg files in MythMusic, I get annoying skips every so often (usually one or two every 2 to 5 minutes). The skips are barely a half second long and its just like the audio stops playing for a moment. 
I'm running KnoppMyth R5A22 and using a Sound Blaster Live! SPDIF output. The soundcard is not used by MythTV playback since I have a tuner card for that. CPU usage does not seem to effect the skipping (It still skips with a 90% idle cpu). 

 
I've tried lower bitrate mp3s, but they have the same problem.
mp3s don't always skip at the same place, so it's definately not a problem with a skip in the physical file.
Does anyone know of a possible reason this could happen? I haven't seen anything strange in the logs, but I'm not experienced with linux so there might be something there and I wouldn't know it. 

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Re: [mythtv-users] recommended ivtv and firmaware versions for PVR-500

[Marius Schrecker]

> Hi,
>
> Op 19-dec-2005, om 11:29 heeft Marius Schrecker het volgende geschreven:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>  Now that sound is (kinda) working I can devote myself to fixing the
>> terrible quality from my PVR-500.
>
> As i'm struggeling with some quality issues myself, are you sure the
> problems ar at the input side?
>
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Micha Kersloot
>

Hi,

Pretty sure. There was a BIG difference between 0.5.1 / the firmware from
the ivtv website link, and 0.3.8 and the firmware from my CD (sorry, I'm
at a different box so no md5's this time). I'm not sure that the coax
connector on the back of the pvr-500 is optimal (feels a litle loose), so
I may be losing some signal there, but I do remember things being much
better, and quite acceptable back in the 0.3.7 days. Trouble is live TV
from Myth has been broken since I rolled back ivtv and I haven't had time
to fix it (probably won't until after Christmas). So I can only see the
results from MPlayer. I might try different firmware and/or 0.4.(1) if I
get a chance.

What kind of problems are you having?

Marius
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[mythtv-users] Guide 'Unknown' channels

[Kirby Bakken]

I receive all the 'major' (CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, etc) channels on HD (I 
have just an HD5000 card), but for most of the HD channels I get, the 
guide shows 'unknown' as the content.  I KNOW that the HD content is the 
same as the NTSC content...  How can I cause the channel guide to show 
content instead of Unknown?  Is there something I'm doing wrong with my 
channel guide setup?  (all the other channels show up fine).  Or do I 
need to 'fudge' things and associate one channel's information that I AM 
getting with the 'unknown' channels?

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[mythtv-users] X 99% cpu load during LiveTV

[Rick van der Mieden]

Hi,
 
I've a little 
problem with my X and kde in combi with LiveTV. This is what 
happening:
 
When I startup my 
server (backend in combo with frontend) all running on gentoo with kdm 
(.xsession file with mythfrontend and irexec to be started). Mythfrontend 
startsup normal. But when I want to watch LiveTV I have a flickering picture and 
then a black screen, but the audio of the channel is there, I even can switch 
channels, but still a black screen. When I look at top I see my X process eating 
the complete CPU. When I kill kdm and X and startup kdm again everything is 
perfectly normal.
 
Anybody an 
idea???
 
 
Rick
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[mythtv-users] So many options...which is best?

[Mike]

Let me start by saying that I've been running MythTV for a number of months, so this isn't really a newbie question. I'm running a single Myth box on Fedora Core 4 with a PVR-350. I used Jarod's guide to get it going, which made it a breeze (albeit somewhat time consuming.) Now I'm getting ready to build an entirely new multi-room system, and I'm struggling to decide how to do it. Below is what I have in mind with a few questions. Experienced insight would be appreciated.In the family room, I'll have a Myth system hooked up to an LCD monitor and sound system (mid-range stuff.) It'll be used for TV and music, nothing more. But this is also the room where I can easily put a larger system without it being in the way of the room. Over in the kitchen I'll have another system with a small 19" LCD monitor, and this will be used for TV as well as web browsing and email and phone. Initially, I only want two encoders.So my initial thought was to make the family room system the backend and run all of the encoders in there. (PVR500?) The frontend in the kitchen wouldn't have an encoder. But I don't like the idea of ugly homemade IR devices or the unnecessary cost for a decent commercial IR remote & receiver. Would it just make more sense to put a PVR 150 in each system to use the remotes with the encoders? I am leaning towards this now.I'm also leaning towards using FC4 again (I looked at Knoppmyth, but their forums say to stay away from USB keyboard/mouse and SATA drives--a bit disconcerting of a notice in the year 2005.)  Does anybody who has set up multiple integrated Myth boxes have better suggestions?  Thanks for all input -- much appreciated.___
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Re: [mythtv-users] ATSC Channel.conf

[Michael Haan]

On 12/20/05, Michael Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 12/20/05, Michael Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

On 12/20/05, David Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

Hi Norm,Like yourself I have both a Rogers Digital TV Box, Rogers Analog (channels1-80 or so), and recently Rogers Digital over QAM 256.With a HD3000 you can receive about 40 or so Digital TV stations that are
transmitted unencrypted. I do this to receive channels 102 through about 130or so, plus some sports net channels. No HD stations are broadcast in theclear.As for a digital cable box, it's not "useless for Myth" I feed it into a PVR
250 card using SVideo, and use an IR Blaster to control the channel.David-Original Message-From: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of MlistsSent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:44 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv; R. Geoffrey NewburySubject: Re: [mythtv-users] ATSC 
Channel.confOn Tue, 2005-20-12 at 10:34 -0500, R. Geoffrey Newbury wrote:> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:31:24 -0500, Michael Haan wrote:>> >> > > Trying to find-out how I discover and import the list of available QAM
> > > channels for use with my HD3000, in my area.  Can't seem to find a> > > decent tutorial, or the necessary resources.> >> > There are recent emails about that here. You can scan using mythtvsetup.
> > Make sure that mythbackend has stopped first.>> Using an HD3000 to receive QAM broadcasts in myth requires some hands-on> work *after* doing a scan. The HD card + mythtv combo does not populate
> the mysql database with the correct entries (at least not yet..)>> Browse to:I currently have an analog card to pick up my Rogers cable channels butare you telling me that with a DVB-T card I can get the digital
channels?  I have a digital box but its useless with Mythtv.  The analogsignal looks crappy so if I can get the digital signal, that would beawesome.Norm___
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Ok, I'm making some progress on this, but *wow*, this shouldn't be this hard.  Not to discourage new folks - it's not crazy hard, just seems like we could do a better job of centralizing info and automating processes  I know, I know, I'm welcome to do it.  Wish I understood better what I'm doing, then maybe I would
To all, FWIW, Geoffrey's post above has been very useful.  One issue I have is that I found that ESPNHD was unencrypted (when scanning under windows), but it doesn't seem to have shown-up under this method.  Also, there are several channels which are missing an identifier.  Anyonw know why these two situations would arise?


Just to follow-up, the channels missing the first field were some of these other channels - ESPNHD, Discovery HD, etc.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?

[Johan Venter]

Stef Coene wrote:

I, too, compile from scratch using Debian, and the only caveat I've
come across is having to use the prefix "/usr" (As Myth can't find
it's libraries if you use the default /usr/local)


You can put library path's that are not default in 
/etd/ld.so.conf

In my case, I have /usr/local/lib in it.
After running ldconfig, it should work.


Indeed, I install Myth into it's own little sandbox at /usr/local/mythtv 
to make it super easy to remove/move/backup etc, and all you have to do 
is make sure the lib directory is locatable by ld.


Regards,

Johan
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Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?

[Johan Venter]

I love debian :)  But I run ubuntu on my laptop ;)


I have Kubuntu on my laptop with an SVN frontend compiled which I use to 
watch TV upstairs over wireless while I'm working on other stuff on my 
main PC :)


Actually, Kubuntu standard installation already had many more of Myth's 
dependencies installed than Debian, but we can just scratch that up to 
the Kubuntu folks wanting to make *everything* work first go.



You can do this:
apt-get build-dep mythtv

And it will install all needed -dev packages for you you need ...

After that you can do
apt-get -b source mythtv

and it will build mythtv automagically for you.

(you need some deb-src in /etc/apt/sources for mythtv of course, mine is for 
ubuntu:

deb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse)


That's only if you want to compile 0.18 stable. Need to go the long way 
(though not much longer) to get latest sources.


For the benefit of the original poster:

  # apt-get install subversion

Regards,

Johan
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[mythtv-users] Re: Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Boleslaw Ciesielski]

Kevin Kuphal wrote:
In looking further, recent SVN changes have the skeleton for XDS parsing 
but nothing is done with the data.  My PVR-150 is putting data into 
/dev/vbi so I think my backend is set up for capturing.  This may be my 
Christmas project to see if I can properly decode the XDS V-chip 
information at least in debugging output to see what it says.


The following patch against the vbi utility (from ivtv) will let you do 
some quick testing outside of myth.


Bolek

Index: test/vbi.c
===
--- test/vbi.c  (revision 2757)
+++ test/vbi.c  (working copy)
@@ -112,16 +112,52 @@

 static void decode_xds(struct v4l2_sliced_vbi_data *s)
 {
-   char c;
+   char c, c1, c2;
+static int vchip = 0;

//printf("XDS: %02x %02x: ", s->data[0], s->data[1]);
-   c = odd_parity(s->data[0]) ? s->data[0] & 0x7F : '?';
-   c = printable(c);
+   c1 = odd_parity(s->data[0]) ? s->data[0] & 0x7F : '?';
+   c = printable(c1);
//putchar(c);
-   c = odd_parity(s->data[1]) ? s->data[1] & 0x7F : '?';
-   c = printable(c);
+   c2 = odd_parity(s->data[1]) ? s->data[1] & 0x7F : '?';
+   c = printable(c2);
//putchar(c);
//putchar('\n');
+
+if (c1 == 0x01 && c2 == 0x05) {
+  vchip = 1;
+} else if (vchip) {
+  char rating[32] = "";
+  if ((c1 & 0x5F) == 0x48) {
+switch (c2 & 0x07) {
+case 0x01:
+  strcat(rating, "TV-Y");
+  break;
+case 0x02:
+  strcat(rating, "TV-Y7");
+  break;
+case 0x03:
+  strcat(rating, "TV-G");
+  break;
+case 0x04:
+  strcat(rating, "TV-PG");
+  break;
+case 0x05:
+  strcat(rating, "TV-14");
+  break;
+case 0x06:
+  strcat(rating, "TV-MA");
+  break;
+}
+if ((c1 & 0x20) || (c2 & 0x38)) strcat(rating, "-");
+if (c1 & 0x20) strcat(rating, "D");
+if (c2 & 0x08) strcat(rating, "L");
+if (c2 & 0x10) strcat(rating, "S");
+if (c2 & 0x20) strcat(rating, "V");
+  }
+  printf("\nVCHIP: %02x %02x %s\n", c1, c2, rating);
+  vchip = 0;
+}
 }

 #define CC_SIZE 64
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Re: [mythtv-users] Help getting KWorld/VStream XPert DVB-T to work

[Joacim J]

On 12/21/05, David Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 21/12/05, Joacim J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 12/21/05, David Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 21/12/05, Joacim J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Thanks anyway ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Do you have any idea about the questions I wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don't have the /dev/dvb/... or the adapter/frontend aren't
> > > > registered...is it because the /dev/dvb/...isn't created?? When/Where
> > > > are /dev/dvb/... created?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I missed the beginning of this thread, but have you looked at which
> > > dvb modules are being loaded?
> > >
> > > /sbin/lsmod
> > >
> > > For my Nova-t card I had to manually modprobe cx88_dvb (I think that's
> > > the correct name) because the wrong [blackbird] module was being
> > > automatically loaded.
> > >
> > > It was the
> > >
> > > /sbin/modprobe cx88_dvb
> > >
> > > command that created the /dev/dvb/adapter stuff
> > >
> > > ( look in dmesg for errors / success messages)
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that this is the module for you (though it's worth a
> > > try) but you need to find out which module it is you need, and check
> > > that it is being loaded.
> > >
> > > HTH
> >
> > David,
> >
> > Here I got something interesting.
> >
> > 1. Fresh booted machine and the dmesg is not showing any DVB info
> > 2. Result of /sbin/lsmod command is below
> > 3. Executed "/sbin/modprobe cx88_dvb"
> > 4. dmesg now show som interesting output, see below at the end. And I get:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -al /dev/dvb/adapter0/
> > total 0
> > drwxr-xr-x  2 root root120 Dec 21 12:26 .
> > drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 60 Dec 21 12:26 ..
> > crw-rw  1 root root 212, 4 Dec 21 12:26 demux0
> > crw-rw  1 root root 212, 5 Dec 21 12:26 dvr0
> > crw-rw  1 root root 212, 3 Dec 21 12:26 frontend0
> > crw-rw  1 root root 212, 7 Dec 21 12:26 net0
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#
> >
> > Now, how can I make persistent? I mean so the module 'cx88_dvb' is
> > loaded every time.
>
> Well for me, all I had to do was prevent the cx88_blackbird module
> loading, and then my system automatically loaded the cx88_dvb instead.
>
> I notice that you've also got the blackbird module in there so maybe
> that would work for you too.
>
> As you've found out loading the cx88_dvb on top doesn't seem to cause
> any problems so you can just force it to load.
>
> As for how to do either of the above, I'm afraid I'd have to look up
> the way I did it tonight and I suspect it's distribution dependent
> anyway.  I'm running Fedora Core 3, so if you don't get any joy before
> I get home tonight I can let you know my solution.
>
> Post back with the flavour of linux that you are using, and I suspect
> someone else here will be able to help you.
>
> In the meantime you could look at using /etc/modprobe.conf or rc.local
> or rc.sysinit (as described in Jarod Wilson's guide to mythtv on
> Fedora)
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I have Fedora Core 4 with kernel 2.6.14-1.1653_FC4.

I have tried to add the following in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
/sbin/modprobe --remove cx88_blackbird
/sbin/modeprobe cx88_dvb

It seems that the cx88_dvb module is loaded and blackbird is not, at boot time.

Is this the correct way of doing this??

Earlier I did som testing with dvbscan, tzap and dvbstream and I get
some result that I haven't got before but no picture.

When running dvbstream with command:

./dvbstream -o -ps -qam 64 -cr 2_3 1018 1010 | mplayer -
it says:
Reading from stdin...
and nothing happens

If I have started
tzap "SVT1"
before (that puts out some data every second that says FE_HAS_LOCK)
and then run dvbstream with:
./dvbstream -o -ps -qam 64 -cr 2_3 1018 1010 | mplayer -
it also says:
Audiostream: Layer: 2 BRate: 256 kb/s  Freq: 48 kHz
but  no mplayer appears.

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Joacim
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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Gregorio Gervasio, Jr.]

> Kevin Kuphal writes:

k> The V-chip information is part of the VBI data.  A quick google reveals:

k> http://captioning.robson.org/articles/general/nv-line21.html


This page is a pretty good reference if you want to figure out
how to decode XDS:

http://www.geocities.com/mcpoodle43/SCC_TOOLS/DOCS/CC_XDS.HTML

-- 
Gregorio Gervasio, Jr.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Kevin Kuphal]

Kevin Kuphal wrote:


David Rudder wrote:

This is a pretty off-the-wall suggestion.  Is there anyway to detect 
V-Chip signals?  I know within the US, all broadcast and cable shows 
have a V-Chip signal, but it's turned off during commercials.  This 
would be a 100% reliable way of detecting commercials, but I have no 
clue whether the signal could be picked up by myth.


I would be ironic to have something good come out of V-Chip, eh?



Upon further investigation, it seems like it would be trivial to 
extract the information into Myth using the IVTV VBI support.  Right 
now Myth will extract the CC information out of field one of line 21 
(see line 1634 for avformatdecoder.cpp).  The XDS information is 
stored in field two of that line.  I think using buf[3] and buf[4] 
would yield the XDS packet V-chip packet based on the information in 
the other link I posted.


Decoding that is easy based on the documentation and then it is just a 
matter of passing that into the right structure that the commercial 
detector can use.  I may have to see about getting my PVR-150 to 
decode VBI/CC packets and see if mabe I can get this to work...


In looking further, recent SVN changes have the skeleton for XDS parsing 
but nothing is done with the data.  My PVR-150 is putting data into 
/dev/vbi so I think my backend is set up for capturing.  This may be my 
Christmas project to see if I can properly decode the XDS V-chip 
information at least in debugging output to see what it says.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Kevin Kuphal]

David Rudder wrote:

This is a pretty off-the-wall suggestion.  Is there anyway to detect 
V-Chip signals?  I know within the US, all broadcast and cable shows 
have a V-Chip signal, but it's turned off during commercials.  This 
would be a 100% reliable way of detecting commercials, but I have no 
clue whether the signal could be picked up by myth.


I would be ironic to have something good come out of V-Chip, eh?


Upon further investigation, it seems like it would be trivial to extract 
the information into Myth using the IVTV VBI support.  Right now Myth 
will extract the CC information out of field one of line 21 (see line 
1634 for avformatdecoder.cpp).  The XDS information is stored in field 
two of that line.  I think using buf[3] and buf[4] would yield the XDS 
packet V-chip packet based on the information in the other link I posted.


Decoding that is easy based on the documentation and then it is just a 
matter of passing that into the right structure that the commercial 
detector can use.  I may have to see about getting my PVR-150 to decode 
VBI/CC packets and see if mabe I can get this to work...


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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 Configuration questions

[Jeff Simpson]

On 12/20/05, Intense Red <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* In mythtv-setup I have the Capture Card Setup configured as an MPEG-2Encoder Card (PVR-250, PVR-350), using /dev/video0, and a default input ofTuner 0. That seems straightforward.* In mythtv-setup's Video sources I have my cable/zap2it set up, and this is
working fine as I can see the proper channels and listings in the front end.(I've also tried both the "default" and "us-cable" options for the Channelfrequency table with no luck -- it's presently set to default.)
* The Input connections setup is baffling to me.  I have "/dev/video0 (Tuner0)" set to my Cable system and nothing else set. Is this correct?Try hitting the "C" key while watching liveTV. This should switch between various inputs, one of which should show you TV. Also try 
ptune.pl to manually tune to a channel to make sure things are working. Keep in mind that while watching liveTV, there is a buffer delay, so when you tune to a channel, it won't show for a few seconds while it gets through the buffer.
Another thing to try is manually selecting the tuner input using ivtvctl. Look at the --help options for that, there should be an option for listing inputs and setting which input to use. Try setting the input and restarting both the frontend and backend, see if that works any better.
 * In "Playback", under "Hardware Decoding Settings" should I have the "Use the
PVR-350's TV out/MPEG decoder"? Right now, I'll be watching TV on mycomputer; in the future, I plan on using the TV out to pipe stuff to a TV.(Right now, that item is not checked.)Correct. You should enable that option only if you have a TV attached to the output of the PVR.
* The "Recording Profiles" section is a mystery. Under "MPEG-2 Encoders
(PVR-250, PVR-350)" like in other things, I've opted to change as little aspossible. Under "Default - Video Compression" it lists a Codec of "MPEG-2Hardware Encoder" with a stream type of "MPEG-2 TS", and "Default - Audio
Quality" of "MPEG-2 Hardware Encoder" with all the other default settings.The "Live TV" settings are similar.Sounds all right to me. 
* The "Recording Profiles" section's "Transcoders" is also a mystery to me andI've no clue as to how to configure this so I've left the defaults in place.Yeah, transcoders are a bit confusing. Basically, after it's finished recording something (in your case, as MPEG2 right off the card) you can have myth automatically transcode it to a different format, MPEG4 or RTJPEG. Since you are using a PVR-350, you probably don't want to transcode automatically, since the PVR-350 can't play MPEG4 directly, and it'll be a hassle to make it work with it as such. Use nuvexport to get other formats out of recordings instead.

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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV & Linux Newbie - A few ?'s

[obscure information.]

Thanks Lee, that's exactly what I figured.  I'll purchase an PVR-150 with the Hauppage remote instead and get an IR transmitter from irblaster.info.  Much appreciated!
On 12/21/05, Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One more question:>> I've read in the archives that the MCE remote will work, but what> about the IR blaster?  Will this have to be replaced with on from> 
irblaster.info  or similar?>The Windows MCE remote consists of the remote that hold in your hand anda receiver which  picks up the Infra Red signals, this a small box which
plugs into a a spare USB port.The remote do work, but have issues, in that you need the right versionof LIRC to make it work...The receiver also has a couple of socket on the back of it where you can
plug in supplied IR transmitters that can control set top boxes(cable/satellite box) HOWEVER, the IR blaster/transmit function do notwork under Linux due to a lack of drivers, so if you need to control anseparate box, then you will need some other IR blaster hardware...
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Re: [mythtv-users] pausing recording schedules

[Bruce Markey]

Chris Rouch wrote:

Is there a way to pause a recording schedule? What I mean by this is
that normally I have a lot of programs set to record, but only one or
two of these are really important. When I go on holiday I'd like to
disable the unimportant ones so that my disk doesn't get so full that
the important ones can't be recorded. Then when I get back I'd like to
re-enable them.


On the recording options pages, Scheduling Options page, last
option allows you to set a rule to rsInactive. These will appear
in the schedule with the status character "x" but won't record until
you set it back to "active" This has existed since last January. 
http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/5133

There is a shortcut so you don't have to go into every rule to set
these. From the Recording Priorities page, you can press "P"ause
to toggle inactive. In the bottom half of the page, you'll see
"(Recording X of Y)" change to "(Inactive)" when you press "P".

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[mythtv-users] Announcement: New debian repository

[Adam Egger]

Hi,

Christian Marillat asked me to make the official announcement. So here
it comes.
There's a new debian repository with all MythTV 0.18.1 packages for
debian sid. They are all based on the packages from Matt Zimmerman
with some changes:

The package mythtv is built with all epg/eit flags enabled for dvb
users and with firewire support. All needed firewire packages are
added to Christian's repository too, so there's no need to "make
install" them anymore.

Mythplugins are built with some additional flags --enable-transcode,
--enable-sdl and --enable-vcd and some lintian errors are fixed

For sid (unstable) i386 and sparc packages add to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main

You can find all additional information about the marillat repository on:
http://debian.video.free.fr/

If you have any questions, feature requests or concerns regarding the
packages feel free to contact Christian (email adress on his homepage)
or send your ideas to this mailing list.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Advice on a newbie MythTV system

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 13:07, Jason Arnold wrote:
> I am planning on building a myth system with the following
> design goals, in order:
>
> 1) Media server (ripped DVDs, CDs, recorded records,
> pictures)
> 2) Cheap
> 3) Weather, games, web, etc
> 4) Live TV
> 5) PVR
>
> Because of #2, I'm trying to figure out what the bare
> minimum is that I need to purchase and where I can gain
> some improvement to the later groups with minimal added
> costs.
>
> Here are my starting assets:
> 1) A dual-450 MHz P-II w/ several UW SCSI drives ...or...
> 2) A 1 GHz Athalon w/ interlaced memory (I think that I
> can go to 1.5 GHz with the current motherboard)
> 3) A 250 GB UDMA 133 drive (although I don't believe
> either motherboard supports 133 - the athalon supports
> 100)4) An ancient Nvidia TV-out/Video card
> 5) A Hauppauge PVR-150
> 6) An Nvidia 256 Video card
> 7) Misc sound and other cards laying around
>
> I'm planning on putting the box in the basement and
> snaking the video/audio up the wall to the living room, so
> noise isn't an issue.  I also need a new TV, preferrably
> around a 19 inch flat panel.
>
> So here's some questions:
> 1) Should I save a bit and use a monitor instead of a TV?
>  How well does that work for Myth?  If so, what's a
> generally acceptable delay on a flat panel in ns?

A monitor is technically best, but might be cost overkill.

> 2) Will something like a Hauppauge PVR-350 be enough to
> pull off most of the myth functions without a
> CPU/motherboard upgrade?

Yes, except for HD, but you don't look to be interested in that, so Yes.

If you end up with a new TV instead of a monitor:
You've got a PVR150, and if your video card has TV out then no need for a 
PVR350. If the video card doesn't have tv out, then adding a 350 will net you 
a second tuner and tv out.

> 3) If so, which motherboard should I use?  I can't use
> both as I need one for my desktop.

your cpu/mobo setup should be fine.

> 4) Any other words of wisdom?  Any other small upgrades
> with big payoffs?  I'd like to keep my costs under $200
> (excluding monitor/TV).

for basic OTA you'll be fine.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Advice on a newbie MythTV system

[Jason Arnold]

I forgot one important detail: I'm only interested in over 
the air TV.  We don't need cable or satellite.


Thanks in advance,
--Jason

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:07:43 -0600
 "Jason Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
*This message was transferred with a trial version of 
CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
I am planning on building a myth system with the 
following design goals, in order:


1) Media server (ripped DVDs, CDs, recorded records, 
pictures)

2) Cheap
3) Weather, games, web, etc
4) Live TV
5) PVR

Because of #2, I'm trying to figure out what the bare 
minimum is that I need to purchase and where I can gain 
some improvement to the later groups with minimal added 
costs.


Here are my starting assets:
1) A dual-450 MHz P-II w/ several UW SCSI drives ...or...
2) A 1 GHz Athalon w/ interlaced memory (I think that I 
can go to 1.5 GHz with the current motherboard)
3) A 250 GB UDMA 133 drive (although I don't believe 
either motherboard supports 133 - the athalon supports 
100)4) An ancient Nvidia TV-out/Video card

5) A Hauppauge PVR-150
6) An Nvidia 256 Video card
7) Misc sound and other cards laying around

I'm planning on putting the box in the basement and 
snaking the video/audio up the wall to the living room, 
so noise isn't an issue.  I also need a new TV, 
preferrably around a 19 inch flat panel.


So here's some questions:
1) Should I save a bit and use a monitor instead of a TV? 
How well does that work for Myth?  If so, what's a 
generally acceptable delay on a flat panel in ns?
2) Will something like a Hauppauge PVR-350 be enough to 
pull off most of the myth functions without a 
CPU/motherboard upgrade?
3) If so, which motherboard should I use?  I can't use 
both as I need one for my desktop.
4) Any other words of wisdom?  Any other small upgrades 
with big payoffs?  I'd like to keep my costs under $200 
(excluding monitor/TV).


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV & Linux Newbie - A few ?'s

[Lee]

One more question:

I've read in the archives that the MCE remote will work, but what 
about the IR blaster?  Will this have to be replaced with on from 
irblaster.info  or similar?


The Windows MCE remote consists of the remote that hold in your hand and 
a receiver which  picks up the Infra Red signals, this a small box which 
plugs into a a spare USB port.


The remote do work, but have issues, in that you need the right version 
of LIRC to make it work...


The receiver also has a couple of socket on the back of it where you can 
plug in supplied IR transmitters that can control set top boxes 
(cable/satellite box) HOWEVER, the IR blaster/transmit function do not 
work under Linux due to a lack of drivers, so if you need to control an 
separate box, then you will need some other IR blaster hardware...


HTH,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[Kevin Kuphal]

David Rudder wrote:

This is a pretty off-the-wall suggestion.  Is there anyway to detect 
V-Chip signals?  I know within the US, all broadcast and cable shows 
have a V-Chip signal, but it's turned off during commercials.  This 
would be a 100% reliable way of detecting commercials, but I have no 
clue whether the signal could be picked up by myth.


I would be ironic to have something good come out of V-Chip, eh?


The V-chip information is part of the VBI data.  A quick google reveals:

http://captioning.robson.org/articles/general/nv-line21.html

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Re: [mythtv-users] tv_grab_nl perl error

[Michael Luich]

or: cpan install Term::ProgressBarOn 12/21/05, Chris Rouch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 12/19/05, Ralf Bardoel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Someone else gave me the answer already, just put the parameter --quiet> after the script and you'll no trouble...
Better still, install perl-Term-ProgressBar from atrpms, if you'reusing Fedora or from CPAN if you're not.Even better (IMO) grab a python version from
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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Flagging, what are the best

[David Rudder]

This is a pretty off-the-wall suggestion.  Is there anyway to detect 
V-Chip signals?  I know within the US, all broadcast and cable shows 
have a V-Chip signal, but it's turned off during commercials.  This 
would be a 100% reliable way of detecting commercials, but I have no 
clue whether the signal could be picked up by myth.


I would be ironic to have something good come out of V-Chip, eh?

-Dave

cardboil wrote:

In my experience, blank frame detection (with strict detection) works 
great most of the time in many US channels (at least the major 
networks).  However, outside the US, many channels don't do blank 
frames.  On those channels, I use logo detection and that works like a 
charm.  Of course, that assumes that the broadcaster turns off the 
logo during commercials (which many of them do).  I do have a few 
channels where neither blank frames nor logo off/on is used by the 
network.  In those cases, I think I'm out of luck.  I tried scene 
change detection and it hasn't worked well, plus it wrongly flags 
scenes changes inside the show or in the midst of comm breaks.


I wonder if the mythcommflag code catches things like volume levels 
(many of my channels turn noticeably louder during comm breaks).


May be Chris P can give us some pointers?


On 12/13/05, *Steve Adeff* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


On Tuesday 13 December 2005 12:04, Beny Spensieri Jr wrote:
> >From: Phil Bridges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >On 12/13/05, Beny Spensieri Jr < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> wrote:
> >> I have found that the commercial flagging feature
>
> of
>
> >> Mythtv is not doing a great job of flagging
> >> commercials.  As a result, playback is not skipping
> >> the commercials as I have indicated.
> >>
> >> Any advise on what combination of settings will
> >> produce the most accurate commercial detection?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Beny
> >
> >Just out of curiosity - have you set the frontend to
> >automatically
> >skip commercials?  Are you using the 'z' key to skip?
> >
> >What are your current detection settings?
>
> I initially set it to blank frame detection, which
> didn't work very well.  Then I set it to blank frame +
> scene change, this is also not great.
>
> I have now set commercial detection to ALL, but I have
> yet to record and test anything yet.
>
> I have set playback to automatically skip the
> commercials.
>
> Anything else?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Beny

I have mine set to ALL currently with manual skipping and find it
to be quite
accurate on about 90% of the channels I've recorded with about 75%
accuracy
on the last 10%. It seems to sometimes find too many or not enough
commercial
points when it gets it wrong.

I'm in the U.S.

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[mythtv-users] Advice on a newbie MythTV system

[Jason Arnold]

I am planning on building a myth system with the following 
design goals, in order:


1) Media server (ripped DVDs, CDs, recorded records, 
pictures)

2) Cheap
3) Weather, games, web, etc
4) Live TV
5) PVR

Because of #2, I'm trying to figure out what the bare 
minimum is that I need to purchase and where I can gain 
some improvement to the later groups with minimal added 
costs.


Here are my starting assets:
1) A dual-450 MHz P-II w/ several UW SCSI drives ...or...
2) A 1 GHz Athalon w/ interlaced memory (I think that I 
can go to 1.5 GHz with the current motherboard)
3) A 250 GB UDMA 133 drive (although I don't believe 
either motherboard supports 133 - the athalon supports 
100)4) An ancient Nvidia TV-out/Video card

5) A Hauppauge PVR-150
6) An Nvidia 256 Video card
7) Misc sound and other cards laying around

I'm planning on putting the box in the basement and 
snaking the video/audio up the wall to the living room, so 
noise isn't an issue.  I also need a new TV, preferrably 
around a 19 inch flat panel.


So here's some questions:
1) Should I save a bit and use a monitor instead of a TV? 
How well does that work for Myth?  If so, what's a 
generally acceptable delay on a flat panel in ns?
2) Will something like a Hauppauge PVR-350 be enough to 
pull off most of the myth functions without a 
CPU/motherboard upgrade?
3) If so, which motherboard should I use?  I can't use 
both as I need one for my desktop.
4) Any other words of wisdom?  Any other small upgrades 
with big payoffs?  I'd like to keep my costs under $200 
(excluding monitor/TV).


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Re: [mythtv-users] "Windowed" Front-end?

[Mark Knecht]

> >Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
> >>I was just wondering if there was a MythTV front-end "client" for Linux
> >>that runs in a window, but gives access to all of MythTVs features.  My
> >>daughter is running Linux, doesn't have a TV, and I would like to allow
> >>her to use MythTV in a way that allows her to continue doing other stuff
> >>also.  So, basically, a "windowed" front-end that doesn't take over the
> >>full screen.  Is there anything like that?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Lonnie Borntreger

Hi Lonnie,
   I run Myth in Gnome and I find it frustrating for the same reason.
When you start Myth first there is no way to get back to the desktop.
Bummer.

   My strategy for getting around this is to run one small app,
usually an xterm, and then run Myth. When I want to work on something
I do an Alt-Tab to the termain, which also shows all of Gnome's
taskbars and menus. I can then browse the web, run Open Office, k3b,
etc, while Myth is running. While this does not allow me to see all of
the picture, I find it preferable to be able to do another Alt-Tab
backj to myth and the screen size is full screen instead of something
smaller.

   When I forget to start the xterm fist I do a save position (enter)
then exit Myth, start the terminal, and return to the program where I
left off.

   Oh, by the way, I'm watching The Daily Show on my desktop while
writing this to you in Firefox.

   I hope this helps your daughter a bit.

Cheers,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Greg Estabrooks]

> There are several instances of same names and not too many cable
> stations use callsigns.  Also, the station can have different logos
> for different things.  WGN has 3 logos, MTV2 and many others have
> logos for several different purposes/countries.

 The callsign is stored in the database and could just as easily
be searched against. you don;t have to search against the "name".

> >  I think it should do a match against the callsign field first and if no
> > matches are found then use the name.
> 
> the responses are actually based on the name of the icon... if you
> look at the results, and then go to the website and right click on the

 I'm aware of this, but it would be more accurate to search on the callsign
and if none found then try the name.  For instance
"The Learning Channel" has a callsign of TLC which would easily
match the logo name of tlc.jpg. I've gone through and matched up hundreds of 
these now in serveral states and I'd say that for Northamerica at least 
matching against the zap2it provided callsign (or DVB grabbed) is a better 
way to find matches.  Matching this way would save on a lot of extra manual 
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV & Linux Newbie - A few ?'s

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 11:41, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> obscure information. wrote:
> > * Once Linux begins to boot, I can no longer see the video output on
> > my monitor, only my television.  Is this normal, or did I mess
> > something up while configuring TV-Out?
>
> This is normal.
>
> > * If normal, is there any way to make it output the signal to both?
> > As I haven't fully 'tweaked' everything yet, the output signal to the
> > TV leaves something to be desired when looking at smaller text or
> > working in the console.
>
> Yes.  I think nVidia calls this TwinView or something like that
>
> > * What is the recommended resolution to output to the TV?  I've got
> > mine at 1024 x 768 on a standard 4:3 32" screen.  Should I be dropping
> > this down to something more realistic like 640 x 480?
>
> Myth screens for 4:3 are built for 800x600 resolution in the menus and
> this is what I use.
>
> > * The output to the TV is slightly off center.  I've messed with the
> > overscan settings in nvidia-setup but even afterwards the vertical
> > picture is off by about 3/4" from the top.  How can I adjust the
> > vertical position?
>
> Maybe try xvidtune?

doesn't the nvidia drivers have seperate tuning parameters for tv out in 
the .conf file?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Great source for channel icons (was --> "http://www.lyngsat-logo.com")

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 12:30, Matt wrote:
> On 12/21/05, Greg Estabrooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > network channels, so like I'm in MA and get NH and RI channels as
> > > well... You might be best off downloading all the state local channels
> > > as well. There
> >
> >  When picking US that is probably the best option. Save the user from
> > having to run it several times.
>
> Really what you have to do is do the US first... go through, skip any
> that aren't in the US (local channels mainly).  However, if it is an
> ABC channel, you'll find the generic ABC logo on US.  If you want your
> stations ABC logo, you'll have to do state.  I prefer the local
> logos... so after you run the US,  go in and edit the file...  Until
> it's fixed, you must change the country code to the us-xx, where xx is
> the state abreviation, the page count, and you MUST put a blank entry
> in the master list that could look something like this:
>
> master_list = {
> 'uk': {
>
> },
> 'us': {
>
> },
> 'us-il': {
>
> },
> 'us-in': {
>
> },
> }
>
> once it's edited, run it again.  Hit "s" to skip all the ones that
> you've already entered for the US until you get to the local ones.
> Then you should be able to search based on station callsign (i.e.
> wxxx, kxxx).  Very easy to do.
>
> Maybe in future versions it'll be able to search US as well as states
> in a single run, but right now you are limited to one "country" code
> at a time.
>
> Matt
>
> > > shouldn't be repeated call letters, but there might
> >
> >  There should never be duplicated callsigns worldwide, let alone within a
> > country. The "name" might be the same or duplicated but callsigns should
> > never be.
>
> There are several instances of same names and not too many cable
> stations use callsigns.  Also, the station can have different logos
> for different things.  WGN has 3 logos, MTV2 and many others have
> logos for several different purposes/countries.
>
> > > you'll need to include abbreviations in the search algorithm it looks
> > > like.
> >
> >  I think it should do a match against the callsign field first and if no
> > matches are found then use the name.
>
> the responses are actually based on the name of the icon... if you
> look at the results, and then go to the website and right click on the
> icons, that's the name.  That's what "E! Entertainment Television"
> doesn't even show the right choice of the defaults that show up... you
> litterally have to just hit 'f' and search "e" and it'll be the first
> one because that's the name of the icon for E! Entertainment
> Television.
>
> Thanks!
> Matt

too bad you didn't write this in PERL, I'd be able to make some changes for us 
'muricans.

thanks for the info on how to do the individual states. any chance being able 
to assign location code via the command line?

-- 
Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] Generate thumbnails while watching live recording?

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On 12/20/05, Michael T. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In settings:
>
> Generate preview image from a bookmark if possible
> If enabled, MythTV will ignore the above time offset, and use the
> bookmark inside the recording as the offset for creating a thumbnail
> image. As with the above, MythTV will honour cutlists and increase this
> offset if necessary.
>
>
> Then press Space or Enter to set a bookmark.  Just make sure you don't
> reset the bookmark (i.e. when exiting the recording).
>
Thanks!

That's a very interesting and useful feature.  However, I'm one of
those users, though that likes to have a bookmark set on exit... it
would be nice if there was a way to trigger screenshot without setting
the bookmark.
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV & Linux Newbie - A few ?'s

[obscure information.]

Thank you for the prompt response; I will try xvidtune.  I didn't know there was such an animal (as I said, I'm a total Linux newbie), but figured there had to be a utility for this in there somewhere.As far as TwinView, I did some googling and I think I've got a working 
xorg.conf to try after work today.One more question:I've read in the archives that the MCE remote will work, but what about
the IR blaster?  Will this have to be replaced with on from irblaster.info or similar?Thanks again for your help!
~o411On 12/21/05, Kevin Kuphal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
obscure information. wrote:> * Once Linux begins to boot, I can no longer see the video output on> my monitor, only my television.  Is this normal, or did I mess> something up while configuring TV-Out?
This is normal.> * If normal, is there any way to make it output the signal to both?> As I haven't fully 'tweaked' everything yet, the output signal to the> TV leaves something to be desired when looking at smaller text or
> working in the console.Yes.  I think nVidia calls this TwinView or something like that> * What is the recommended resolution to output to the TV?  I've got> mine at 1024 x 768 on a standard 4:3 32" screen.  Should I be dropping
> this down to something more realistic like 640 x 480?Myth screens for 4:3 are built for 800x600 resolution in the menus andthis is what I use.> * The output to the TV is slightly off center.  I've messed with the
> overscan settings in nvidia-setup but even afterwards the vertical> picture is off by about 3/4" from the top.  How can I adjust the> vertical position?Maybe try xvidtune?Kevin
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