[mythtv-users] Line of garbage at top of screen

2006-01-30 Thread David Abrahams

When I watch recorded material on OS X there's what looks like a one
(source) pixel line of seemingly random black and white pixels.  The
source material is fine; I don't see the garbage when I play it in
VLC.  Does anyone know where this comes from or what can be done about
it?  (Trac is down or I'd have made a ticket)

Thanks,

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Re: [mythtv-users] Unpredictable Skip/Fast Forward/Rewind behavior

2006-01-28 Thread David Abrahams
David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Ashley Bostock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> My database is fine too, I have a frontend+backend machine which is fine for
>>> ffwd (running linux) its just on the additional mac frontend where I see the
>>> issue.
>>>
>>
>> It's beginning to sound like a Mac-only issue.
>
> Incidentally, I went crawling through the code to try to understand
> what's going on, but this particular area is uncommented and
> completely inscrutable, at least to me.  Can any Myth developers
> who've worked on this code help?

I believe I've found the problem.  Please see
http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2006-January/044360.html

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Re: [mythtv-users] OSX client editing problems...

2006-01-28 Thread David Abrahams
David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Tom E. Craddock Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> John Sutherland wrote:
>>> Hi there..
>>> 
>>> I have a linux backend, 0.18.1, and an OSX frontend..
>>> 
>>> I've tried 3 verisons of the 0.18.1 OSX client binaries, and all 3  
>>> have the same behavour.. (the versions I tried at the one from  
>>> goof.com, and the ones from thesniperpad.com..)
>>> 
>>> Watching TV works..
>>> Watching recording works, including fast forward, rewind, time  
>>> stretch, zoom, etc..
>>> 
>>> But the moment I hit 'E' to enter edit mode, it freezes.. All I see  
>>> in the client is the frozen frame.. No keys work.. I have to forcibly  
>>> kill the client..
>>> 
>>> Backend seems fine, no restarting necessary..
>>> 
>>> I do have a linux frontend that seems able to edit without issue..
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> --John
>>
>>
>> In about a week-ish or so, once .19 is released, use the .19 binaries. 
>> Its been fixed in SVN at some point, cant tell ya the revision # tho.  I 
>> had the same problems (on .18.1) and once I started running/compiling 
>> SVN regularly along with the nightly OSX binary builds that are posted 
>> on thesniderpad.com's dloads section (which I really do appreciate) I 
>> found that hitting 'E' works fine.
>
> Yes, it's fixed in SVN.  Unfortunately fast forward, skip forward,
> rewind, skip back and E all have the same new problem: sometimes the
> transport unaccountably ends up at zero.

I believe I've found the problem.  Please see
http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2006-January/044360.html

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Re: [mythtv-users] OSX client editing problems...

2006-01-24 Thread David Abrahams
"Tom E. Craddock Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> John Sutherland wrote:
>> Hi there..
>> 
>> I have a linux backend, 0.18.1, and an OSX frontend..
>> 
>> I've tried 3 verisons of the 0.18.1 OSX client binaries, and all 3  
>> have the same behavour.. (the versions I tried at the one from  
>> goof.com, and the ones from thesniperpad.com..)
>> 
>> Watching TV works..
>> Watching recording works, including fast forward, rewind, time  
>> stretch, zoom, etc..
>> 
>> But the moment I hit 'E' to enter edit mode, it freezes.. All I see  
>> in the client is the frozen frame.. No keys work.. I have to forcibly  
>> kill the client..
>> 
>> Backend seems fine, no restarting necessary..
>> 
>> I do have a linux frontend that seems able to edit without issue..
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> --John
>
>
> In about a week-ish or so, once .19 is released, use the .19 binaries. 
> Its been fixed in SVN at some point, cant tell ya the revision # tho.  I 
> had the same problems (on .18.1) and once I started running/compiling 
> SVN regularly along with the nightly OSX binary builds that are posted 
> on thesniderpad.com's dloads section (which I really do appreciate) I 
> found that hitting 'E' works fine.

Yes, it's fixed in SVN.  Unfortunately fast forward, skip forward,
rewind, skip back and E all have the same new problem: sometimes the
transport unaccountably ends up at zero.

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Re: [mythtv-users] capturing via firewire

2006-01-20 Thread David Abrahams
Gabe Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am considering upgrading my myth box so I can, as some people
> stated, step into this century's technology.  I already have a PVR-350
> capture card, and live near frys where they are always selling
> Mobo/CPU combos.  What I wanted to do was get one with nVidia chipset
> on it, digital audio out, and video out which I will convert from VGA
> -> Component using some device for that.
>
> My question is, if I have a motorola box with firewire outputs, can I
> capture all my tv this way?  

As long as you don't want to watch something other than what's
currently recording, you're golden.

> Will I even need the pvr anymore?   

Your Myth box is the PVR ;-)

> Also, i capture HD this way, do I need a lot of horsepower CPU wise
> for that, or will the CPU be needed for playback?

Just playback.  My impression is that with XvMC you probably don't
even need all that much CPU for playback.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Unpredictable Skip/Fast Forward/Rewind behavior

2006-01-15 Thread David Abrahams
David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ashley Bostock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> My database is fine too, I have a frontend+backend machine which is fine for
>> ffwd (running linux) its just on the additional mac frontend where I see the
>> issue.
>>
>
> It's beginning to sound like a Mac-only issue.

Incidentally, I went crawling through the code to try to understand
what's going on, but this particular area is uncommented and
completely inscrutable, at least to me.  Can any Myth developers
who've worked on this code help?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Unpredictable Skip/Fast Forward/Rewind behavior

2006-01-15 Thread David Abrahams
Ashley Bostock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My database is fine too, I have a frontend+backend machine which is fine for
> ffwd (running linux) its just on the additional mac frontend where I see the
> issue.
>

It's beginning to sound like a Mac-only issue.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Unpredictable Skip/Fast Forward/Rewind behavior

2006-01-14 Thread David Abrahams
Ant Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 13/01/06, Ashley Bostock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I see this as well (Mac OS 10.4 on a powerbook over wireless - resent svn).

FWIW, my frontend is also my backend, so there's no network involved
in this bug.

>> Say for example I'm watching a recording that is 30mins in length and I've
>> hit the fast forward key (with sticky keys turned off) at the 20mins mark.
>> The osd will appear with the current position 20:00 of 30:00, then it will
>> flick to showing 0:00 of 30:00 and then move on the fast forward amount
>> 21:00 of 30:00.  If I press the button too quickly after the previous press
>> then it will acutally skip from 0:00 of 30:00 to 1:00 of 30:00.
>>
>> Ash
>>
>>
>> On 11/01/06, David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > When I use the fast forward, rewind, skip forward, or skip backward
>> > keys while watching a recording, it's as likely as not that I'll end
>> > up back at the beginning, which makes navigation quite difficult.  Is
>> > this just a plain bug or is there some "technique" I need to learn in
>> > order to make it work better?  I'm running the MacOS frontend built
>> > from SVN, for what it's worth.
>> >
>> > --
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>> > www.boost-consulting.com
>
> I was thinking that this sounded like problems I got with a corrupted 
> database.
> Although after reading the second email I don't think it is, however
> if you want to check just to be sure:
> mysqlcheck -u mythtv -pmythtv mythconverg

My database checks out OK.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X & MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-14 Thread David Abrahams
Matt Hannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Matt Hannan wrote:
>> David Snider wrote:
>>   
>   
> 
 I'm just glad it isn't just me! I will try to get you that info  
 tomorrow
 night, Dave.

 
   
>>> Ok, there are now two new 0.18.1 versions at thesniderpad.com.  One  
>>> is the vanilla 0.18.1 and the other is the 0.18.1-fixes branch from  
>>> SVN.  Let me know if you try them and what your status is
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> Mister Snider,
>
> I am wondering if this has to maybe do with where I am storing the 
> MythFrontend.app.
> I am just pulling it over into Applications and launching from there.
>
> Are you, perhaps, building it somewhere else and the path is getting 
> screwed up based on this?
> The themes are all in the proper place, but it really is borking out 
> while looking for them.
>
> Another thing I am looking at it qt3. I tried compiling 3.3.4 based on 
> the directions at
>  http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythOnMacOsx
> but I am getting errors during make. I am walking this path to try and 
> install the plugins myself.
> After this borked twice, once with make sub-src based on the directions, 
> and then again with just make, I also tried the install from 
> http://naranja.umh.es/~atg/, but I am getting errors with this as well.
>
> GRR.
>
> So, I fired up Darwin-ports and am installing qt3 this way.
> I was shocked at the amount of other packages that it puled over 
> (cups-headers, jpeg, zlib, etc). This seems to be working, but it will 
> probably not finish before I have to head to bed.
>
> So, what do you think about all that?
> I will post more on this tomorrow night.
> Matt

I am using this patched version of osx-packager, which corrects some
of those problems:

#!/usr/bin/perl

### osx-packager.pl
### Tool for automating frontend builds on Mac OS X.
### Run "osx-packager.pl -man" for full documentation.

use strict;
use Getopt::Long qw(:config auto_abbrev);
use Pod::Usage ();
use Cwd ();

### Configuration settings (stuff that might change more often)

# We try to auto-locate the Subversion client binaries.
# If they are not in your path, you should use the second line.
#
our $svn = `which svn`; chomp $svn;
#our $svn = '/Volumes/Users/nigel/bin/svn';

# By default, only the frontend is built (i.e. no backend or transcoding)
#
our $backend = 0;

# For faster downloads, change this to a local mirror.
#
our $sourceforge = 'http://internap.dl.sf.net';

# At the moment, there is mythtv plus these two
our @components = ( 'myththemes', 'mythplugins' );

# The OS X programs that we are likely to be interested in.
our @targetsFE = ( 'MythFrontend',  'MythCommFlag',
   'MythJobQueue',  'MythTranscode');
our @targetsBE = ( 'MythBackend',   'MythFillDatabase',
   'MythTranscode', 'MythTV-Setup');

our %depend_order = (
  'mythtv'
  =>  [
'freetype',
'lame',
'mysqlclient',
'qt-mt',
'dvdnav'
  ],
  'mythplugins'
  =>  [
'tiff',
'exif',
'dvdcss',
'dvdread',
#'cdaudio'
  ],
);

our %depend = (

  'freetype'
  =>
  {
'url'
=>  "$sourceforge/sourceforge/freetype/freetype-2.1.10.tar.gz",
  },

  'dvdnav'
  =>
  {
'url'
=>  "$sourceforge/sourceforge/dvd/libdvdnav-0.1.10.tar.gz",
  },
  
  'lame'
  =>
  {
'url'
=>  "$sourceforge/sourceforge/lame/lame-3.96.1.tar.gz",
'conf'
=>  [
  '--disable-frontend',
],
  },

#  'cdaudio'
#  =>
#  {
#'url'
#=>  "$sourceforge/sourceforge/libcdaudio/libcdaudio-0.99.12.tar.gz"
#  },

  'dvdcss'
  =>
  {
'url'
=>  'ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/unix/linux/mirrors/gentoo/distfiles/libdvdcss-1.2.8.tar.bz2',
  },

  'dvdread'
  =>
  {
'url'
=>  'http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/dist/libdvdread-0.9.4.tar.gz',
'conf'
=>  [
  '--with-libdvdcss',
],
  },

 
  'mysqlclient'
  =>
  {
'url' 
=> 'http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/software/mysql/Downloads/MySQL-4.1/mysql-4.1.12.tar.gz',
'conf'
=>  [
  '--without-debug',
  '--without-docs',
  '--without-man',
  '--without-bench',
  '--without-server',
  '--without-geometry',
  '--without-extra-tools',
],
  },
  
  'qt-mt'
  =>
#   {
# 'url'
# =>  'http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.trolltech.com/qt/sources/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.0.1.tar.gz',
# 'conf-cmd'
# =>  'echo yes | ./configure',
# 'conf'
# =>  [
#   '-prefix', '"$PREFIX"',
#   '-system-zlib',
#   '-fast',
#   '-qt-sql-mysql',
#   '-qt-libpng',
#   '-qt-libjpeg',
#   '-qt-gif',
#   '-platform macx-g++',
#   '-no-tablet',
#   '-I"$PREFIX/include/mysql"',
#  

[mythtv-users] Unpredictable Skip/Fast Forward/Rewind behavior

2006-01-11 Thread David Abrahams

When I use the fast forward, rewind, skip forward, or skip backward
keys while watching a recording, it's as likely as not that I'll end
up back at the beginning, which makes navigation quite difficult.  Is
this just a plain bug or is there some "technique" I need to learn in
order to make it work better?  I'm running the MacOS frontend built
from SVN, for what it's worth.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Watch Videos

2006-01-09 Thread David Abrahams
Kevin Kuphal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> David Abrahams wrote:
>
>>It appears that the Watch Videos feature only looks on the frontend's
>>local filesystem for files, but a record of all the recorded videos is
>>kept in the backend's database, causing it to complain about all the
>>missing videos that were recorded on other machines every time I fire
>>it up.  Is this feature only supposed to be used with a
>>network-mounted disk, or... ?
>>  
>>
> The standard practice is to mount shared storage via NFS or SMB from the 
> backend (where all your storage is) to the same mount point on all the 
> frontend systems.  

Thanks; that wasn't obvious to me.

> Since Myth Video doesn't "record", I'm not sure what 
> you're referring to about missing recordings.  

I didn't say "missing recordings;" I said "missing videos."  Anyway,
I don't see the relevance; something had to record them, so what does
it matter what I call them?

> You should *not* point your Myth Video at your TV recording folder.
> That is not what it is designed for.

I'm not doing that.  In the SVN at least, when you fire up "Watch
Videos" you get complaints about all the videos that are known to the
backend database but can't be found in the local filesystem.  Only a
common mountpoint can cure that problem AFAICT.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Import existing video file?

2006-01-09 Thread David Abrahams
"James C. Dastrup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>I don't think the video manager is what I want.  First of all, it's
>>apparently only designed for using an external player, not for playing
>>within the MythTV frontend.  Secondly, the video manager seems
>>completely messed up when you are running multiple frontends, since
>>they are recorded in the global backend database but only referenced
>>relative to the frontend's local filesystem.
>  
> 1) Change the player to "Internal" for just that recording, then it uses
> MythTV's native internal player.

Cool, thanks.

> 2) Change the Video path so it matches on all frontend. This is easily done by
> just adjusting your mount points.

I haven't yet figured out how to get NFS set up.  Another day, another
hurdle.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-09 Thread David Abrahams
Brad DerManouelian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Jan 8, 2006, at 9:03 PM, David Abrahams wrote:
>
>> Brad DerManouelian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> There's very little I've found in the MythTV UI that can really take
>> advantage of the keyboard anyway.  In fact, it seems like in many
>> screens where a keyboard _could_ be really great, the UI only lets you
>> use the arrow keys.  For example, when setting the duration or time of
>> a recording in the manual record screen I should be able to type in a
>> number.  Instead I can only scroll through a list of numbers that
>> often
>> doesn't include the exact value I want.
>
> A remote would help quite a bit actually. I've set up mine and I
> never have to touch the keyboard. 

Try setting up a time in the "schedule manual recording" screen.  I
think you won't be happy.  Even in other screens, don't you expect the
big "select" button in the middle of all the arrows to be able to set
a checkbox?  Does it really make sense to you that pushing the
"rightarrow" button sets it and the "select" button dismisses that
screen?

> Full control from across the room is nice. :)

I have a wireless keyboard/mouse for that ;-)

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Re: [mythtv-users] [Announce] OSX backend support

2006-01-09 Thread David Abrahams
Jens Baumeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi!
>
> On 1/8/06, David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I have posted a patch that allows you to run the MythTV backend on
>> MacOS
> [...]
>> If you download the linked .bin file and treat it as a patch to the
>> current MythTV SVN state, it "should work."
>
> Great news! However, I'm not comfortable with upgrading my systems to
> SVN. 

>From what I hear the SVN is much more solid than the last release, but
I understand.

> I imagine there'll probably be at least an unsupported patch
> against 0.19 final, as well, whenever that'll be ready to be released.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the work you put into this - I'm looking forward to
> trying it out in the future.

You're welcome; I was very glad to be able to make a contribution.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Import existing video file?

2006-01-09 Thread David Abrahams
Brad DerManouelian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Jan 8, 2006, at 6:35 PM, David Abrahams wrote:
>
>>
>> I have an existing video recording in a format already supported by
>> MythTV playback.  How can I add it to my backend's list of recordings?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Dave
>
> Drop it in your mythvideo directory and go to Utilities/Setup>Video
> Manager (assuming you are auto-scanning your videos directory). It
> will scan the folder and add it to your videos list.

I don't think the video manager is what I want.  First of all, it's
apparently only designed for using an external player, not for playing
within the MythTV frontend.  Secondly, the video manager seems
completely messed up when you are running multiple frontends, since
they are recorded in the global backend database but only referenced
relative to the frontend's local filesystem.

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[mythtv-users] Watch Videos

2006-01-09 Thread David Abrahams

It appears that the Watch Videos feature only looks on the frontend's
local filesystem for files, but a record of all the recorded videos is
kept in the backend's database, causing it to complain about all the
missing videos that were recorded on other machines every time I fire
it up.  Is this feature only supposed to be used with a
network-mounted disk, or... ?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Playback performance [all platforms]

2006-01-09 Thread David Abrahams
Greg Estabrooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> AFAICT, there's no processor-specific optimization in playback at all.
>> So if performance is bad on PPC/Darwin, it's probably bad (compared to
>> what's possible) on x86/Linux as well.
>
>  The differences is that scalling/display through XV is hardware 
> accelerated whereas on the PPC it's using  Quicktimes ScaleMatrix which
> is done in software. According to a Apple Tech I spoke with the other day 
> that with the right combo of OSX versions and hardware it will be done
> in hardware but I didn't get any specifics on what the right combos
> are.
>
>> Ouch, really?  Not good news for the MacOS folks.  I wonder what about
>> the MacOS frontend is sucking so badly?  I am running a
>
>  I'd bet money that a large portion of it is the scaling of the video.
> If someone with a MAC wants to do research I'm sure a proper solution
> could be found, if only so that other MAC frontend users will have
> the info when making hardware purchases
>
>> > So I' can't vouch for possible x86 optimization, but I'm pretty sure
>> > the code could be tweaked to run faster on Darwin/PPC.
>> 
>> Can you explain why you are pretty sure of that?
>
>  There is definately better ways to take advantage of the hardware which
> isn't being done on the MAC.
>
>  If someone wants to send me one I'd volunteer to work on it :)

I'd be happy to; I have one that's presently gathering dust.  What's
your address (offline, if you prefer)?  The more muscle we can put
behind Mac development, the better, as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Playback performance [all platforms]

2006-01-09 Thread David Abrahams
Jens Baumeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 1/9/06, David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I notice that the performance of playback seems to be suboptimal.  For
>> example, I captured some HDTV video over firewire using MythTV.  When
>> I try to play it back using the frontend, it is totally unwatchable.
>>
> [...]
>> However, when I use VLC to play the same file, it looks almost
>> perfect
> [...]
>> And if Darwin-specific playback
>> code turns out to help, doesn't it indicate that the playback code
>> MythTV is using for all other platforms today could be a whole lot
>> more efficient?
>
>>From what I've read, there isn't much PPC or Darwin optimization in
> MythTV - at least not in the releases. I don't know about SVN.

AFAICT, there's no processor-specific optimization in playback at all.
So if performance is bad on PPC/Darwin, it's probably bad (compared to
what's possible) on x86/Linux as well.

> I use 0.18.1 on an old 550 MHz G4 PowerBook with 768 MB RAM as my
> kitchen frontend with nothing else running on it, and it just barely
> handles the task. (E.g. it starts to stutter when mythtvosd scrolls
> something through the frame.) OTOH my  master backend ist a Gentoo
> PIII 600 MHz with only 256 MB RAM (I know, I should buy some more...)
> which also doubles as my living room frontend and usually has other
> stuff (server apps, iPod transcoding, commercial flagging, etc.)
> running in the background - yet it feels a lot more responsive than
> the OS X frontend and hardly ever stutters.

Ouch, really?  Not good news for the MacOS folks.  I wonder what about
the MacOS frontend is sucking so badly?  I am running a
frontend/backend combo on a 1.42 GHz Mac Mini (admittedly it could
stand a RAM upgrade from 512M to 1G, but I don't think that's the
issue) and I see a *lot* of beachballs.  Maybe I'd be better off
buying a cheap linux box, but I really like the "just-works appliance"
nature of the Mac for this purpose.

Any idea how I can find out what the problem is?  I don't imagine
profiling will make a huge difference in such a highly threaded
application.

> I've spent some time setting up setuid permissions and process
> priorities on the Linux box, but I don't think I'll manage to squeeze
> much more performance out of the OS X frontend doing that. 

Why not?

> So I' can't vouch for possible x86 optimization, but I'm pretty sure
> the code could be tweaked to run faster on Darwin/PPC.

Can you explain why you are pretty sure of that?

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Re: [mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-08 Thread David Abrahams
Brad DerManouelian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Jan 8, 2006, at 9:03 PM, David Abrahams wrote:
>
>> Brad DerManouelian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2006, at 6:13 PM, David Abrahams wrote:
>>>
>> There's very little I've found in the MythTV UI that can really take
>> advantage of the keyboard anyway.  In fact, it seems like in many
>> screens where a keyboard _could_ be really great, the UI only lets you
>> use the arrow keys.  For example, when setting the duration or time of
>> a recording in the manual record screen I should be able to type in a
>> number.  Instead I can only scroll through a list of numbers that
>> often
>> doesn't include the exact value I want.
>
> A remote would help quite a bit actually. I've set up mine and I
> never have to touch the keyboard. Full control from across the room
> is nice. :) The only time I ever touch the keyboard is when I enter a
> search phrase.
>
> Also keep in mind that there are major UI changes in the works (from
> what I've read, anyway). 

I'm working with SVN, so unless they're on a branch, I've already seen
them, such as they are.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-08 Thread David Abrahams
Brad DerManouelian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Jan 8, 2006, at 6:13 PM, David Abrahams wrote:
>
>>
>> Within the MythTV frontend on my mac the mouse becomes invisible and
>> inoperable.  At first I thought that was just how MythTV worked, but
>> then I happened to access the frontend over VNC from a Linux box, and
>> the mouse worked!  Can anyone tell me how to get the mouse working on
>> my MacOS frontend?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Dave
>
> Utilities/Setup->Appearance->Screen Settings (second screen in
> Appearance)
> There's a checkbox for Hide Mouse Cursor in Myth
>
> You'll find that some buttons works with a mouse, but theme-specific
> stuff probably won't. 

Oh, like the top-level menus.  Too bad :(

> Myth isn't meant to be used with a mouse, but there is some support
> for it left over from legacy code, I believe.  You'd be much better
> off getting used to not using the mouse. It's faster... really!

I am an inveterate emacs user and I generally prefer not using a
mouse... really!  But Myth's keyboard interface is so unpredictable
for me (sometimes spacebar selects/presses the current widget --
e.g. for buttons -- but if you're on a checkbox it presses the "Next"
button!?!) that a mouse is much less frustrating.  Also in
configuration screens with many items it's a lot faster to click the
*one* I care about.  Furthermore, I'd much rather keep a little mouse
on my coffee table than an entire keyboard.  Yes, I will be setting up
a remote, but that will inherit all the same problems of the
keyboard UI.

There's very little I've found in the MythTV UI that can really take
advantage of the keyboard anyway.  In fact, it seems like in many
screens where a keyboard _could_ be really great, the UI only lets you
use the arrow keys.  For example, when setting the duration or time of
a recording in the manual record screen I should be able to type in a
number.  Instead I can only scroll through a list of numbers that often
doesn't include the exact value I want.

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[mythtv-users] Import existing video file?

2006-01-08 Thread David Abrahams

I have an existing video recording in a format already supported by
MythTV playback.  How can I add it to my backend's list of recordings?

Thanks in advance,
Dave

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[mythtv-users] [osx] which deinterlace to use?

2006-01-08 Thread David Abrahams

http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-10.html describes how to tell
which deinterlace algorithms will work on an x86 processor, but what
should I select on my PPC mac?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Playback performance [all platforms]

2006-01-08 Thread David Abrahams
David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If this is really something that can be fixed by configuration rather
> than programming, my apologies in advance, but so far I think it's a
> developer issue.

Whoops; I *meant* to send it to the developer's list!

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[mythtv-users] OSX frontend mouse?

2006-01-08 Thread David Abrahams

Within the MythTV frontend on my mac the mouse becomes invisible and
inoperable.  At first I thought that was just how MythTV worked, but
then I happened to access the frontend over VNC from a Linux box, and
the mouse worked!  Can anyone tell me how to get the mouse working on
my MacOS frontend?

Thanks in advance,
Dave

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[mythtv-users] Playback performance [all platforms]

2006-01-08 Thread David Abrahams

I notice that the performance of playback seems to be suboptimal.  For
example, I captured some HDTV video over firewire using MythTV.  When
I try to play it back using the frontend, it is totally unwatchable.
The action occurs at about half speed because of stuttering and
includes frequent pauses of up to a second.  I tried tweaking all the
obvious settings in the Playback section of the front end's setup
screen, to no avail.

However, when I use VLC to play the same file, it looks almost
perfect, with only barely perceptible jerkiness due, presumably, to
the fact that my Mac Mini can't quite keep up with playback.  I
grepped the MythTV source for CONFIG_DARWIN to find the
Darwin-specific playback code, but came up empty.  Perhaps we *need*
some darwin-specific playback code?  And if Darwin-specific playback
code turns out to help, doesn't it indicate that the playback code
MythTV is using for all other platforms today could be a whole lot
more efficient?

Also: does all MythTV playback go through NuppelVideoPlayer?

If this is really something that can be fixed by configuration rather
than programming, my apologies in advance, but so far I think it's a
developer issue.

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[mythtv-users] [Announce] OSX backend support

2006-01-08 Thread David Abrahams

I have posted a patch that allows you to run the MythTV backend on
MacOS: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2006-January/043373.html
So far, it only supports recording of MPEG Video over firewire.

If you download the linked .bin file and treat it as a patch to the
current MythTV SVN state, it "should work."

Enjoy,
Dave

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