Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-500: problems with sound

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 24 January 2006 02:48, Intense Red wrote:
>  > I am experiencing a problem similar to yours with a PVR-500 that I loose
>  > sound on one of the tuners when I come backup on after I do a reboot or
>  > a shutdown. I have to disconnect the power to the back of my box for 60
>  > seconds or so then plug it back in and it works fine. You may want to
>  > give it a try and see if it helps any. Good luck and make sure you post
>  > what you do to fix the problem.
>
>Hi Allan,
>
>Did you resolve this issue?  If so, how?  (I tried your cold boot
> suggestion, but no luck.)
I was able to fix it.  Check out
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_PVR-500#No_sound_on_first_recording
for a script that I wrote to fix the sound issue.  This is for the problem 
where changing channels fixes the sound problem.

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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV.org Wiki

[Stef Coene]

On Saturday 21 January 2006 05:36, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> > In choosing my frontend I was very interested in the setup of others
> > and why they choose something. Grouping such information is very
> > handy, even if it only contains links to external pages.
>
> Certainly.  But User pages are the place for that, I think.  For the
> meantime, anyway.
Ok, I will put it on my User page.  Anyway, I have to put it somewhere or I 
forget what I did to get it working ;)
It can be moved later to an other place.


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV.org Wiki

[Stef Coene]

On Friday 20 January 2006 18:25, Jeff Simpson wrote:
> I think he meant like an
> everyone-makes-a-page-to-describe-their-own-mythbox. Is that
> an acceptable use? I think it would be neat to see, especially if some of
> the more
> creative boxes included photos and writeups, along with part lists, but
> mythtv.org might
> not be the place for it (unless somebody gives the OK, and I'm all for it)
I think it can be the place if there is a page that can group the pages and 
create an overview of the pages.  Like a MyMythBox with sub pages like 
MyMtyhBE and MyMythFE and so on.
In the perfect world, each page has a list of fixed parameters so you describe 
the setup. Like the type of case, mobo, cpu, memory, tuner, remote ...
So the user can query: "give me all the sileverstone cases", or "give me an 
overview of remotes".

In choosing my frontend I was very interested in the setup of others and why 
they choose something.  Grouping such information is very handy, even if it 
only contains links to external pages.


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV.org Wiki

[Stef Coene]

On Friday 20 January 2006 03:22, Steve Adeff wrote:
> I just want to emphasize the fact that the official MythTV.org wiki is up
> at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>
> The site still has a lot of room to grow, adding hardware setup, work on
> the User Manual, etc. It also has a lot of good information there. So do a
> search there before coming here, add information when you solve problems,
> and help build the knowledge contained there.
Mhh, I started to edit some pages and I have some questions.

What's the best way to on include a script?  I can not find a way to attach 
somthing, so I copied it in the text.  But that's looking fine.

Is there a place in the wiki where I can describe my setup ?


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Re: [mythtv-users] install ivtv-0.5.1 fails with ivtv: disagrees about version of symbol tveeprom_hauppauge_analog (make distclean doesn't help)

[Stef Coene]

On Friday 20 January 2006 02:01, mrwester wrote:
>  As a follow up, and in an effort to make the archives usefull for those
> who go down this path in the future...  This was the only solution that
> worked for me.  I could not get 0.5.0 or 0.5.1 to install.  I ended up just
> installing 0.4.1 from RPM and commenting the alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
> line as suggested and all was well.  I'm sure I could have achieved the
> same thing by leaving only the kernel tveeprom module after a normal
> make/make install, but it's working now and  I'd rather not mess with it...
Have you tried ivtv 0.4.2 and kernel 2.6.15?  I installed it for my PVR-500 
and the only module it compiled was ivtv.  All other modules are merged and 
were taken from the kernel.  So no conflicting modules anymore.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Firmware issues. Please help!

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 19 January 2006 14:55, Morten Rønseth wrote:
> On my RC4 box these are the only files/directories named hotplug:
>
>
> /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug
> /usr/src/kernels/2.6.11-1.1369_FC4-x86_64/include/config/hotplug
> /usr/src/kernels/2.6.11-1.1369_FC4-x86_64/drivers/pci/hotplug
> /sbin/hotplug
> /etc/hotplug
> /lib/modules/2.6.11-1.1369_FC4/kernel/drivers/pci/hotplug
Sorry I have to give on this one, I don't have a FC4 box so I don't know the 
filesystem layout.

In theory, you have to put the files in the directory $FIRMWARE_DIR like you 
did.  


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Re: [mythtv-users] Firmware issues. Please help!

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 19 January 2006 14:11, Stewart wrote:
> Turning debug on in both places, I see a bunch of these... Not sure it has
> anything to do with myth, though.   Otheer than these errors, I get
> nothing.
>
> Jan 19 08:01:49 mythtv default.hotplug[3426]: arguments (vc) env
> (SUBSYSTEM=vc OLDPWD=/ DEVPATH=/class/vc/vcs7 MINOR=7
> PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin ACTION=remove PWD=/etc/hotplug
> UDEV_LOG=3 MAJOR=7 MANAGED_EVENT=1 UDEVD_EVENT=1 DEVNAME=/dev/vcs7 SHLVL=1
> HOME=/ DEBUG=yes SEQNUM=451 _=/bin/env)
> Jan 19 08:01:49 mythtv default.hotplug[3426]: no runnable
> /etc/hotplug/vc.agent is installed Jan 19 08:01:49 mythtv
> default.hotplug[3436]: arguments (vc) env (SUBSYSTEM=vc OLDPWD=/
> DEVPATH=/class/vc/vcs7 MINOR=7 PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> ACTION=add PWD=/etc/hotplug UDEV_LOG=3 MAJOR=7 MANAGED_EVENT=1
> UDEVD_EVENT=1 DEVNAME=/dev/vcs7 SHLVL=1 HOME=/ DEBUG=yes SEQNUM=453
> _=/bin/env)
> Jan 19 08:01:49 mythtv default.hotplug[3436]: no runnable
> /etc/hotplug/vc.agent is installed
Mhh, this is what I have:
Jan 19 13:23:04 lambik kernel: ivtv1: This is the first unit of a PVR500
Jan 19 13:23:04 lambik default.hotplug[21173]: arguments (i2c) env 
(SUBSYSTEM=i2c OLDPWD=/ DEVPATH=/devices/platform/i2c-2/2-0043 
PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin ACTION=add PWD=/etc/hotplug HOME=/ SHLVL=2 
PHYSDEVDRIVER=i2c tda9887 driver DEBUG=yes PHYSDEVBUS=i2c SEQNUM=1058 
_=/usr/bin/env)
Jan 19 13:23:04 lambik default.hotplug[21173]: no 
runnable /etc/hotplug/i2c.agent is installed
Jan 19 13:23:04 lambik default.hotplug[21192]: arguments (firmware) env 
(PHYSDEVPATH=/devices/pci:05/:05:02.0/:06:09.0 SUBSYSTEM=firmware 
OLDPWD=/ DEVPATH=/class/firmware/:06:09.0 FIRMWARE=v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw 
PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin ACTION=add TIMEOUT=10 PWD=/etc/hotplug 
HOME=/ SHLVL=2 PHYSDEVDRIVER=ivtv DEBUG=yes PHYSDEVBUS=pci SEQNUM=1059 
_=/usr/bin/env)
Jan 19 13:23:04 lambik default.hotplug[21192]: 
invoke /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent ()
Jan 19 13:23:04 lambik default.hotplug[21205]: arguments (firmware) env 
(PHYSDEVPATH=/devices/pci:05/:05:02.0/:06:09.0 SUBSYSTEM=firmware 
OLDPWD=/ DEVPATH=/class/firmware/:06:09.0 FIRMWARE=v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw 
PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin ACTION=remove TIMEOUT=10 PWD=/etc/hotplug 
HOME=/ SHLVL=2 PHYSDEVDRIVER=ivtv DEBUG=yes PHYSDEVBUS=pci SEQNUM=1060 
_=/usr/bin/env)
Jan 19 13:23:04 lambik default.hotplug[21205]: 
invoke /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent ()
Jan 19 13:23:04 lambik kernel: ivtv1: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware 
(262144 bytes)


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Re: [mythtv-users] Firmware issues. Please help!

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 19 January 2006 13:54, Stewart wrote:
> I don't seem to have an /etc/init.d/hotplug.
>
> I'm running FC4.  Is this something I missed in my setup?
I don't think so. I use debian so it's possible that you have to look in a 
different place.
I don't have FC4 box, but you can search for a script in /etc with the name 
hotplug (try /etc/rc.d/initd./hotplug or an other rc* subdirectory)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Firmware issues. Please help!

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 19 January 2006 12:31, Stewart wrote:
> Did the names/locations change between 4.1 and 4.2?  my 4.1 system loads up
> just fine.   The 4.2 fails to load the firmware...
>
> I checked firmware.agent and my FIRMWARE_DIR is /lib/firmware.  All of the
> files are there.
I upgraded from 4.1 to 4.2 without changing the firmware.  You can try to 
enable debugging in firmware.agent (DEBUG line) and/or hotplug.functions), 
redo the hotplug proces (/etc/init.d/hotplug restart) and check the logfile 
(/var/log/syslog).


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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-500: problems with sound

[Stef Coene]

On Wednesday 18 January 2006 01:14, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 01:02 +0100, Stef Coene wrote:
> > Anyway, I keep running
> > while true; do ivtvctl -d /dev/video1 -q 0; sleep 10; done
> > in a login prompt for now.
>
> I obviously can't comment on your particular situation, nor am I an
> expert on how ivtv works. That said, what I have observed on my system
> is, it has never been necessary to repeat the ivtvctl command once it
> has been set correctly once. However, there doesn't seem to be any
> consistency in what the argument to -q is. Sometimes it's 0, 1, or 2. I
> just have to trial-and-error it until I get it right, but once set, it
> works until the next reboot.
I have to execute each time I start live tv or record something.

How does mythtv select the audio input?
And it looks like there is a difference between selecting audio input on first 
tune and changing channels.


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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-500: problems with sound

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 23:39, Stef Coene wrote:
> > I used to have a command "ivtvctl -d /dev/video1 -q 1" in my rc.local
> > script, and for a while that worked, but now every time the system is
> > rebooted, one of the tuners comes up without sound, and I have to poke
> > around with ivtvctl commands manually to restore it.
>
> Still not working, even when changing audio channels.  "Tuner Audio In" is
> Input 0, so I need "ivtvctl -d /dev/video1 -q 0.
Mhhh it seems to work :)  I have to execute "ivtvctl -d /dev/video1 -q 0" 
while playing something and wait 5 seconds befor the sound starts working.
"ivtvctl  -a" shows no difference before and after executing "ivtvctl 
-d /dev/video1 -q 0".  Still it does something because sound is working.

Anyway, I keep running
while true; do ivtvctl -d /dev/video1 -q 0; sleep 10; done
in a login prompt for now.


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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-500: problems with sound

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 22:54, Greg Woods wrote:
> I've got the same problem, and I always have to execute an "ivtvctl -q"
> command to recover it. It gets associated with the wrong audio input. I
> still have ivtv-0.3.7a, and my understanding is that this particular
> problem is fixed in later versions of the driver, but I haven't had time
> to try upgrading yet. It hurts the WAF though when her favorite sci-fi
> shows are missed due to lack of sound in the recording )-: so I will
> probably get around to upgrading eventually.
>
> I used to have a command "ivtvctl -d /dev/video1 -q 1" in my rc.local
> script, and for a while that worked, but now every time the system is
> rebooted, one of the tuners comes up without sound, and I have to poke
> around with ivtvctl commands manually to restore it.
Still not working, even when changing audio channels.  "Tuner Audio In" is 
Input 0, so I need "ivtvctl -d /dev/video1 -q 0.
I upgraded to kernel 2.6.15.1 + ivtv 0.4.2 so only module ivtv is from ivtv, 
the rest is form the kernel.  Still not working.

Help :(
My last option is swapping the PVR500 for the software based capture card I 
had before :(

Has anyone an idea why changing channels can enable sound?  What exactly 
happens when you change the channel ?

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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-500: problems with sound

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 17:03, Allan Wilson wrote:
> I am experiencing a problem similar to yours with a PVR-500 that I loose
> sound on one of the tuners when I come backup on after I do a reboot or a
> shutdown. I have to disconnect the power to the back of my box for 60
> seconds or so then plug it back in and it works fine. You may want to give
> it a try and see if it helps any. Good luck and make sure you post what you
> do to fix the problem.
Problem is not fixed, but I'm almost sure it's mythtv related.

After powering off the server for a few minutes, I did a simple "ivtv-tune -f 
224,cd25 /dev/video0" to tune to channel (it replied with /dev/video0: 
224.000 MHz  (Signal Detected)) and "cat /dev/video0 > test.mpeg" and I had 
sound + video.  So the ivtv drivers are working.

Nobody has a clue about what could be the problem ??

Right now I'm compiling ivtv-0.5 to see if that would help.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Logrotate settings for mythbackend.log?

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 16:39, Jonathan Tidmore wrote:
> On 1/17/06, Stef Coene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No, signal HUP means "reload and start a new config file" (a proces can
> > do what ever it wants with a HUP signal, but most of the times it's used
> > to rotate the logfiles).
>
> This may be true for most programs, but like you said, a process can do
> what it wants with a HUP signal.  Some may restart, some may exit, some may
> do nothing.  Point is, do we know what mythbackend does with a HUP signal?
I don't know, but I have this on my debian box and it's working:

/var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log {
daily
rotate 7
notifempty
copytruncate
}


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Re: [mythtv-users] Logrotate settings for mythbackend.log?

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 10:36, Phill Edwards wrote:
> >/var/log/myth/mythbackend.log {
> >size 32M
> >postrotate
> >kill -HUP `cat /var/run/mythbackend.pid`
> > 2>/dev/null endscript
> >}
>
> Out of interest, won't this config kill mythbackend and therefore
> terminate any recordings that are being made or watched?
No, signal HUP means "reload and start a new config file" (a proces can do 
what ever it wants with a HUP signal, but most of the times it's used to 
rotate the logfiles).


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[mythtv-users] PVR-500: problems with sound

[Stef Coene]

Hi,

I searched the mythtv and ivtv archives, but couldn't find an answer.

I have a brand new PVR-500 that's working like it should be, execept that the 
first time I tune to a channel, I have no sound :(  After changing to a 
another channel, sound is working like it should be and keeps working like it 
shoud be.  Idem for recordings, no sound.

After a reboot, the first time I go in live-tv, I only get static.  After 
that, when I go to live-tv, I get a channel but no sound.  So it looks that 
the first tuning attempt produces no sound and that changing channels fixes 
this.

Strange thing is that sometimes, I get sound.  I played with it tonight: I 
rebooted the box, unloaded and reloaded modules, ... and sometimes I got 
sound on my first tune attempt.  The problem is I don't know what exactly I 
when it worked, it seems random to me :(

I don't think I made an error configuring everything.
More info: ivtv 0.4.2 (loading fine, no errors in dmes), custom kernel, 
dedicated backend, debian, mythtv 18.1, recording is fine using a software 
based card, ... plz ask for more info if you want.

If no one can help, I will post this to the ivtv mailing list.


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Re: [mythtv-users] mythtvsetup on debian (ubuntu) missing

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 12 January 2006 02:10, Bill Bradley wrote:
> WTFrunning .18 on Ubuntu 5.10 and there is no mythtvsetp.  I need to
> change back to zap2it since the pay service went teats up.
The command is mythtv-setup.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR Questions

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 12 January 2006 02:51, John Biundo wrote:
> Bottom line, I too would be very glad to hear more input on the quality
> of the various cards available, and keenly interested in comments
> relative to "fast moving" scenes.
I have a cheap "Bt878 Video Capture" so I do everything in software (P3, 
600Mhz).  The cpu is just fast enough (it's also the main server in my house: 
imap, mysql, apache, ...).
For me, the picture is almost perfect.  The colors are fine, fast moving 
scenes are displayed fine, and so on.  I have to admit that I have an old tv.

I ordered a PVR500 that I'm going to pick up today because I needed an extra 
tuner.  I hope the picture quality will be the same.  I will try to make some 
screen shots to compare them and keep you updated.

Speeking of screenshots, is there a way to put some static test image on the 
coax in to test the tuners ?


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Re: [mythtv-users] File system benchmark

[Stef Coene]

On Saturday 07 January 2006 04:05, Moasat wrote:
> The delete-big-file would be a good benchmark to see.
I mailed him, but my mail was bounced as spam :(

I switched from ext3 to xfs for my recordings some months ago because deleting 
recordings was slow on ext3.  Each time the frontend locked up for a few 
seconds untill the file was gone.  I never had a problem after switching to 
xfs.


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[mythtv-users] File system benchmark

[Stef Coene]

http://linuxgazette.net/122/TWDT.html#piszcz

The only test missing is deleting a big file :(
I will mail the author to see if he can measure the time to delete huge files.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?

[Stef Coene]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 16:14, Robert Johnston wrote:
> On 12/20/05, Michael Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 12/21/05, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > some people are working on packaging Myth for Deb.
> > >
> > > I run Deb on my Myth machine, but I compile Myth from scratch (mostly
> > > cause I'm running SVN releases).
> >
> > Do you have many issues compiling from scratch? I am thinking I will
> > do this also. I have been a long time debian user, and I think once I
> > determine the modules my dvb card uses I will then do a install of
> > debian then go the route of compiling SVN releases etc. That way I can
> > have more control on the packages on the system. ie bare minimum
>
> I, too, compile from scratch using Debian, and the only caveat I've
> come across is having to use the prefix "/usr" (As Myth can't find
> it's libraries if you use the default /usr/local)
You can put library path's that are not default in 
/etd/ld.so.conf
In my case, I have /usr/local/lib in it.
After running ldconfig, it should work.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?

[Stef Coene]

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 07:30, Johan Venter wrote:
> Michael Fox wrote:
> > On 12/21/05, Jake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>i'm also running svn on a debian box.  once you have all the
> >>dependencies figured out it is really very straight forward to compile
> >>myth.
> >
> > Any chance you could export you dpkg package list of installed
> > packages. Dont recall the command off the top of my head.
> >
> > Also are you running unstable? if not, what release
>
> I run unstable, and it's pretty easy working out Myth's dependencies
> when compiling from scratch: a) install the -dev libraries of all the
> dependencies listed in the README and b) just keep installing things
> until a make completes successfully :)
I love debian :)  But I run ubuntu on my laptop ;)
You can do this:
apt-get build-dep mythtv

And it will install all needed -dev packages for you you need ...

After that you can do
apt-get -b source mythtv

and it will build mythtv automagically for you.

(you need some deb-src in /etc/apt/sources for mythtv of course, mine is for 
ubuntu:
deb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse)


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Re: [mythtv-users] fine tuning live

[Stef Coene]

On Friday 16 December 2005 09:53, Martijn Morriën wrote:
> You could use MythWeb at the same time (or from another machine,
> probably most convenient) to update the finetune values and then
> switch channels while watching LiveTV, this should show direct
> results.
> Mass updating is also possible with MythWeb. You can change all
> finetune values for all channels in one go. Another option is to
> directly update the database (but I have no experience in that).
>
> If you know the exact frequency of the channel you can calculate the
> finetune value. Explanation can be found here
> http://www.mythwiki.de/index.php/HOWTO_Mythfilldatabase (German
> explanation) based on that information I created an online calculator a few
> months ago (http://www.escay.nl/mythtv/frequency2channel.php)
Speaking of tuning,  the first time I tried mythtv, I first tried kdetv (kde 
viewing program for kde) to make sure the capture card is working.  Kdetv can 
scan for channels and most of the time, it can discover the name of the 
channel.  How hard can it be put this in mythtv?  It also based on qt.
So you don't have to enter any of the frequency's because mythtv can scan for 
them.

The same goes for finetuning.  My tv can do this.  It scans for a channel and 
then you can see it finetuning for that frequency.  I think it just tries 
some frequency's, measure the signal quality and/or the image quality and it 
picks the best frequency it found.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Touchscreen

[Stef Coene]

On Wednesday 14 December 2005 05:01, GREG & AMY LINDLEY wrote:
> Matt/Tom/Joshua,
>
> Ugh!  I stand corrected.  It does indeed no longer function as I once
> thought.  I spent some time verifying this before I responded.  In a prior
> release (I don't know which one), mythtv used to respond to the mouse (it
> wasn't visible, but you could click on menu items and they would be
> selected).  
I use mythtv (0.18.1-5, ubuntu) and the mouse is indeed not working in the 
menu's.  But in the settings page, the mouse is working fine.  I run mythtv 
in a window, maybe that changes the mouse behaviour.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Touchscreen

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 04:23, GREG & AMY LINDLEY wrote:
> It was featured in the November issue of CPU magazine
> (www.computerpoweruser.com) - don't know
> if you get this in your country.  The touchscreen functions like a mouse so
> I am not aware of changes required to mythtv to support this.
IBM has an article to do this:

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-playscreen/

If someone knows where I can find one, plz let me know :)
(I'm from Belgium)


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Re: [mythtv-users] Instalation problems.

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On Monday 12 December 2005 19:44, Bill Kenny wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Does anyone have MythTV installed on Ubuntu Breezy 5.10? I have been having
> so much trouble installing it on Ubuntu that I have tried 7 times without
> success that I don't know whats right, whats installed  that I have been
> reinstalling Ubuntu every time. I have used the How-to on Ubuntu's forum,
> that its so incorrect that I have given up on that.
> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91511&highlight=mythtv
> Does ANYONE have a How-To that will work? I am new to Linux so a link
> that's is kinda designed for someone like me would be great!
I have the frontend running on my laptop and that's working great.  The 
backend is a debian box.
As far as I can see, mythtv is included with ubuntu.  What's the problem you 
have installing it ?

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Re: [mythtv-users] SVN and LiveTV

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On Saturday 10 December 2005 17:00, Greg Estabrooks wrote:
> > Live tv is on purpose broken in svn.
>
>  No, it's not. It was disabled, but has been reenabled by default
> for weeks now.
Ok.


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Re: [mythtv-users] SVN and LiveTV

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On Saturday 10 December 2005 13:42, Dag Nygren wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> LiveTV in SVN 8219 doesn't work at all.
Live tv is on purpose broken in svn.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth/Debian distribution

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On Friday 09 December 2005 23:51, Mike Robinson wrote:
> Okay, so I'll go for Debian's "etch" release.  That's what I'm currently
> running on my wife's old Blueberry iBook, so I'm a bit familiar with it.
My 2 cents ...
If you go for debian testing/unstable, go for (k)ubuntu.  I love debian, I run 
it for nearly 10 years.  I always used testing and unstable for my 
workstations and stable for my servers.

Some months ago I installed kubuntu and I was impressed.  For me, it's 
bleeding edge like debian unstable, stable like debian stable and so polished 
that's better then windows ;)
AND it has mythtv out-of-the-apt-repository.


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Re: [mythtv-users] un-subscribe me

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Re: [mythtv-users] Europe: How do you access teletext?

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On Thursday 17 November 2005 15:48, Michael Haas wrote:
> Karsten Jeppesen schrieb:
> > When you press M, then you can select teletext, but how do you get these
> > pages on the screen
> >
> > Karsten
>
> Hello Karsten!
>
> I'm not sure if european teletext is supported at all. 
It's working fine for me, but only shows page 888 and that's normally a page 
containing subtitles for deaf people.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Realistic?

[Stef Coene]

On Wednesday 09 November 2005 12:43, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
> I have a P3-500 with 256M RAM (500M swap) with a PVR-500.  It can handle
> recording two shows while feeding a video stream to a single frontend
> without any problems.  Can I realistically expect this to handle a
> second PVR-500 and a couple more frontends, or would I need more
> horsepower?
I think it should be fine.  All recording is done in hardware.  The only thing 
that can be a problem is the speed of your disks.

For those that wants a better monitoring than top, take a look at nmon.  It's 
ported to linux (original it was only available for AIX) and gives you a nice 
overview of your server (CPU / memory / disks / ...):
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/eserver/articles/analyze_aix/


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Re: [mythtv-users] performance problem on old PC

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On Friday 04 November 2005 03:45, Chris Ribe wrote:
> Bitrate and resolution matter a lot here, too. Given comprable video
> quality levels, MPEG4 takes significantly more CPU to encode.
Mhh, I can not tell the different on my old television between.  Maybe I can 
feed it with a test signal on the svideo input and compare the encodings.  
Pff, too much trouble too try :(


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Re: [mythtv-users] performance problem on old PC

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 03 November 2005 00:32, Todd Houle wrote:
> I have been raving about MythTV to a friend of mine who finally
> decided to try it himself.  He had an old PC (1GHz Dell GX150) and 2
> old tuner cards (avermedia and hauppauge win-Tv).  I don't know the
> details of the cards other than they both use the bt878 chips.
>
> We installed KnoppMyth as that is what he heard about elsewhere.
> KnoppMyth detected everything perfectly and ran great.  I added the
> cards in Myth-setup, but we couldn't use it happily.  There was a 1
> second pause, for every second of live tv...  I guess these cards
> don't have hardware MPEG encoders on them and the computer couldn't
> handle the load..  I lowered the quality way down, but still couldn't
> get a smooth playback..
>
> I told him to get a better computer, or a TV card that supports
> hardware encoding.  Was I right?  or was there something else I could
> have done?
I "downgraded" my mythbox from a Athlon 1400 (computer in the living) to a P3, 
700Mhz (computer in the garage).
The P3 can handle my bt878 based card, but I had to switch from rtjpeg to 
mpeg4 (rate of 1800kbit).  When I used rtjpeg, the CPU was not powerfull 
enough so the video was stuttering.  With mpeg4, the myth backend uses 85% 
CPU power.
So it seems that the encoding of mpeg4 needs less cpu than rtjpeg.


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Re: [mythtv-users] FC4 & MythTV - Computer powering down... sort of! - FRUSTRATION!!

[Stef Coene]

On Wednesday 26 October 2005 06:26, David Bennett wrote:
> This may seem like a terribly lazy question but this:
> > I usually run with a custom kernel that matches my hardware
> > exactly.  When moving to another box, I first copy on a
> > recent knoppix kernel and modules and make that my default
> > kernel.  Once on the new box I can see what hardware it
> > found (using dmesg and lspci) and cook a new custom kernel.
>
> IS EXACTLY what I would like to do. Problem is I have no idea how to
> copy on a new kernel and have that load as the default kernel. At that
> point I wouldn't know what to be looking for in dmesg and lspci to
> make a new kernel, and once I did find out what I needed I wouldn't
> know how to get it and make a new kernel.
>
> I don't suppose anyone knows of a step-by-step manual on how to do exactly
> this? ... anyone?
You need to copy the kernel itself and the modules.  The kernel can be found 
in /boot and normally starts with vmlinuz.  The modules can be found in 
directory /lib/modules/.   is the output you get if 
you run "uname -r" .  And this can probably also found in the name of the 
kernel.
To be able to boot the kernel, you have to update the bootloader (lilo or 
grub).  If you use debian, you can use update-grub to update the grub config 
file (it scans /boot for kernels).  It's possible you can run it on other 
distributions too.  I don't know.

What I do, I always leave the kernel in place that is installed by the 
distribution and add my own custom kernel.  So I can choose at boot time the 
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Re: [mythtv-users] I created a Frequency (Hz) to channel (freqid and finetune) convertor

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On Sunday 16 October 2005 15:42, Martijn Morriën wrote:
> For those interested or willing to test,
> I created an online Frequency (Hz) to Channel (freqid and finetune)
> convertor webpage for MythTv.
>
> http://www.escay.nl/mythtv/frequency2channel.php
>
> For example if you live in the Netherlands, tvtime shows you all the
> channels but you are unable to manually add all of them to MythTv. You are
> able to manually find UHF channels but you don't know what to fill in in
> MythTV for your VHF channel with frequency 216000 Hz
>
> then go the the url, select pal-europe (as configured in mythtvsetup) and
> you get
> *
> MythTV freqid = E11* (217250 Hz)
> *MythTV finetune = -20* (((216000 - 217250) * 16) / 1000)
>
> or you are looking for 232000 Hz you will get
>
> *MythTV freqid = SE11* (231250 Hz)
> *MythTV finetune = 12* (((232000 - 231250) * 16) / 1000)
>
> Maybe I have done work that has been done before, but I couldn't find
> something similar...
I think this is greate.

Yesterday I played with kdetv.  It can scan the frequency and most of the time 
it also can find the name of the station.  This is a great feature that I mis 
in mythtv.  I don't know if it does any finetuning.

For finetuning, it would be handy if you can start livetv in some sort of 
debug mode and change the frequency on the fly with some commands.  So you 
can finetune the used frequency.

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Re: [mythtv-users] diskless backend?

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On Monday 10 October 2005 23:00, Alberto Alonso wrote:
> The TV out issues where mythtv related or laptop related?
Laptop related.
I had to connet the tv and put the tv on the right input when powering up the 
laptop.  Even the, from time to time, it was not working (most of the theme 
it was not working).  I also couldn't find a command line and/or a X server 
option to enable tv-out.
I gave away one of the laptops, but I'm going to retry it again with the other 
one if I find the time.

If tv-out was working, it was a nice frontend with a build in UPS :)
And very silent of course.


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Re: [mythtv-users] diskless backend?

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On Monday 10 October 2005 22:20, Alberto Alonso wrote:
> Are you using software decoding on the P3 733Mhz? Can
> that setup handle live TV pause?
>
> I am thinking of having an old laptop with almost those
> specs to be one of my front ends.
I tried it too.  I have 2 compaq armada's (e500).  One P2, 300 Mhz and one P3, 
450 Mhz (I think).  They both had enough horsepower, but I think there was a 
problem with the PCMCIA bus not fast enough.  The video was choppy.  When I 
changed the profiles so it uses MPEG4, all was fine.  I found out that a 
bitrate aboth 5Mbps was too much.
I ditched the project  because I couldn't get the tv-out working liably.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Will compiling&installing from source destroy my current mythtv settings ?

[Stef Coene]

On Monday 03 October 2005 20:58, Robert Rozman wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using mythtv under Debian Sarge. Since there are .deb files for quite
> some plugins missing - I'd like to compile them from source
>
> I have mythtv installed and setup from binaries. I certainly don't wamt to
> loose those video card and channel settings. Can I compile and install and
> not loose existing settings ?
Why not?  All settings are saved in a mysql database.  If you want to play it 
save, back up the database.  It is possible that a new version of mythtv will 
update the data in the database.


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Re: AW: [mythtv-users] Re: Please help, S-Video out on PVR-150 -- SORRY it's an MX440

[Stef Coene]

On Monday 03 October 2005 11:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi !
>
> I'm using a 440mx with TV-out, too.
> I think you need two additional options :
>
>   Option   "TwinView" "On"
>   Option   "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"
>
> Regards
I also have a 440mx and I use nvtv to enable the tv-out.  This is my start 
script:
nvtv --tv-on -r 768,576 -s Large
mythfrontend
nvtv -m

I used the settings in mythfrontend so mythfrontend is exactly placed on the 
part of the desktop that is shown on the tv.  See 
http://www.docum.org/staf/blog/index.php?blogid=1&archive=2005-9-17
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Re: [mythtv-users] ACPI sleep problems

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 20 September 2005 17:29, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 12:27 +0100, Steve Hill wrote:
> > /proc/acpi/sleep seems to be the old
> > 2.4 kernel interface, whereas /sys/power/state is the 2.6 kernel
> > interface.
>
> I tried doing the "echo -n mem > /sys/power/state" on my laptop. It does
> go to sleep; the blinking lights show it is in a suspend-to-RAM state.
> But when I try to wake it up, it hangs. This is pretty much the same as
> "echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep";  I have to power it off and reboot to get
> it back. It looks like maybe this could be made to work; I have FC4 with
> a 2.6 kernel. Maybe that hibernate script is what I need; I'll try it
> out. Thanks to everyone for the pointers on this. Lack of suspend has
> been by far the largest pain in the butt to running Linux on a laptop;
> it's the one thing that Windows XP does that I wish Linux could do.
>
> This is wandering a bit off topic for Myth, getting suspend to work on a
> laptop, but more to the point is that if I can make it work on my
> laptop, perhaps I could make it work on my slave backend/frontend which
> would be directly useful to my Myth setup.
Totally of topic, but there seems to some interest in suspending.  This is my 
suspend script (works fine on thinkpad G40):

#!/bin/sh
#set -x

# Initial settings
umask 0077
PATH="/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin"

# Suspend
#echo "Going to sleep at `date`"
echo "* chvt 1"
/usr/bin/chvt 1
/etc/init.d/mysql stop

#echo "* save vbestate"
#/usr/sbin/vbetool vbestate save > /etc/acpi/vbestate
echo "* writing to /sys"
echo -n "mem" > /sys/power/state
echo ""

# Resume
echo "Back from sleep at `date`"
echo "* restore vbestate"
/usr/sbin/vbetool post
#/usr/sbin/vbetool vbestate restore < /etc/acpi/vbestate

#/bin/cat /etc/acpi/vbestate | /usr/sbin/vbetool vbestate restore
echo "* restore clock"
/sbin/hwclock --hctosys
echo "* chvt 7"
/usr/bin/chvt 7
echo "* done"
echo ""

/etc/init.d/mysql start
echo "*Reconfiguring network"
whereami

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Re: [mythtv-users] ACPI sleep problems

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On Monday 19 September 2005 21:36, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 20:28 +0100, Steve Hill wrote:
> >   Everything I read says I just need to set the
> > wake-up alarm by echoing a time and date to /proc/acpi/alarm and then
> > suspend the machine by doing:
> >  echo -n mem > /sys/power/state
>
> Where did you read this? I'd like to know because everything *I* have
> read says that ACPI suspend-to-RAM doesn't really work on Linux. I have
> never been able to make it work on my laptop; I can get it to suspend to
> RAM by doing "echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep", but there appears to be no way
> to wake it up after that. 
> Suspend-to-disk (so-called "software suspend") 
> supposedly works but I've never been able to make that work either (and
> even if it did, it wouldn't be suitable for this purpose because there's
> no way to do a wakeup other than physically powering it on). ACPI is
> essentially a power management standard that pushes all the power
> management out of the BIOS hardware and into the OS. The more paranoid
> among us think this was a ploy by Microsoft to make it harder to run
> non-Windows OS's on PC laptops. But either way, the ACPI implementation
> in Linux is not very robust as yet. Whether or not it will work will
> likely depend on exactly what kernel version you are running and what
> motherboard and BIOS chip. But it is highly unlikely that it will be as
> simple as echoing something to a /proc or /sys file. If you do manage to
> make it work, I'd love to hear about it.
It works great on my laptop (thinkpad G40).  I use a script so I can fix some 
issues with the display.  Pushing the power button suspends the laptop.  When 
I open the lid, the laptop resumes.  


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[mythtv-users] Fastest file system

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Hi,

Currently, I have a 70 GB partition formatted as ext3.  It's a bit slow when 
deleting big files so I want to reformat it.  But what's the best choice?
XFS is good, but what's the file system check speed?  Running fsck on my ext3 
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Re: [mythtv-users] safely exposing mythweb to the net.

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On Friday 02 September 2005 03:02, Zak wrote:
> I checked the error_log, and this is what it says:
> [Thu Sep 01 20:57:59 2005] [error] [client 192.168.123.198] access to
> /mythweb/program_listing.php failed, reason: user MYUSER not allowed access
>
> So, it's getting the username/password OK - it just isn't recognizing me
> as an authorized user.
Have you created a file /usr/local/sbin/httpd-passwords with htpasswd and 
added a user myuser with a password ?


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Re: [mythtv-users] Setting up time syncronisation

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On Friday 22 July 2005 06:08, Nick Rout wrote:
> > Geek Stuff wrote:
> > > I've trying to set up time syncing on my Mythbox as the time seems to
> > >  drifting quite badly...
> > >
> > > I've added
> > >
> > > ntpdate ntp2d.mcc.ac.uk
> > >
> > > to cron
> >
> > Not really the way go about it anyway. ntpdate typically gets run at
> > startup to sync the time. After this ntpd should be run instead. It
> > can continuously track one, or preferably more time servers.
>
> while you are right, I have found ntpd to be a bit of a pain to set up,
> and to not run for very obscure reasons.
I don't know if you know the "ntpq -p" command?  It shows you the status of 
your ntpd server.  I found out that once the server is running you don't have 
to worry again.  It will take some time before a remote server is accepted as 
a source for synchronisation.

ntpq -p
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
 LOCAL(0)LOCAL(0)13 l1   64  3770.0000.000   0.004
+sciniext.scinic 193.204.114.232  2 u  688 1024  377   56.283   -2.407   0.436
+bob.askja.de192.53.103.103   2 u  333 1024  377   34.603   -2.231   0.392
 underworld.drax .STEP.  16 u- 102400.0000.000 4000.00
*underworld.drax .DCFa.   1 u  623 1024  377   37.426   19.768   4.687

*: that's the one I use for synchronisation
+: that's a server I can use for synchronisation

relevant lines in /etc/ntp.conf:

server 127.127.1.0
fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 13
server europe.pool.ntp.org
server europe.pool.ntp.org
server europe.pool.ntp.org
server europe.pool.ntp.org


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myth Plus ?

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On Wednesday 20 July 2005 22:57, Peter Dash wrote:
> > The only thing holding me back from subscribing is that I can't, they
> > don't support Canada.  In light of this I would enjoy being able to
> > purchase a theme for a modest fee, I really like the look of Midnight.
>
> I'm in a similar position - being in the UK I obviously can't use the
> guide info, but I would be willing to pay a modest amount to get acess
> to the themes and whatever modules come out of the project. I'm sure
> I'm not the only one either.
Me too, they should realise that there are other countries that has 
television, like Belgium ;)
And yes, some people are willing to pay for extra stuff, but only if they can 
use it.  Like me.

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Re: [mythtv-users] apt-get errors - package dependencies unmet

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On Sunday 17 July 2005 14:50, Ross wrote:
> On 7/17/05, Andrew M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > Trying to install MythTV on Debian stable (sarge), but I get the errors:
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?  I'm following the documentation on the mythtv
> >
> > site to the letter.  My sources.list file is:
> > > #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main
> > > deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian stable main
> > > deb-src http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian stable main
> > >
> > > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
> > >
> > > deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
>
> You need to add another source for liblame:
>
> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
>
> This is listed in the howto at
> http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/
And maybe you need "contrib" and "non-free":
deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free


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Re: [mythtv-users] experience for belgium + problems

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On Saturday 16 July 2005 13:09, leszek wrote:
> the tv_grabber works well
Ok.

> the frequencies are the good ones ( i took them from my provider )
> http://www.coditel.be/Default.aspx?tabid=73
> they are also the same as scantv of xawtv gave me
>
> these channels display fine on xawtv and others tv software but
> sometimes with a little noise ( the same thing in the real television)
>
> these channels do not display at all on mythtv (i can still see the
> actual programming at the bottom)
Do you enter the frequency in the channel setup ?
I don't know if you use mythweb, but it's really handy for entering channel 
information.


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Re: [mythtv-users] experience for belgium + problems

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On Saturday 16 July 2005 09:44, leszek wrote:

> I noticed that they are the channels with the lower frequencies !
> I already got a little noise on these channels so maybe there is a noise
> detection mechanism which trigger too fast.
> what can i do ?
I don't know, but let me tell what I did :)  All channes are working fine for 
me, except for some noice oon "vtm".

In mythtv-setup, I choosed a random grabber (it does not matter which one, 
because it never runs).
I use the grabber from http://nerdhero.org/index.php/Howtos/MythTV.  Running 
tv_grab_be_tvb for the first time fills the channel database with data.  I 
used mythtv to give the channels a name and a number.  The frequency for the 
channels in your area can be found on http://www.zenders.be/keuze.jsp.

That's it.  Filling all the frequences took most of the time.

This is my crontab line for the grabber:
0 4 * * * /usr/bin/tv_grab_be_tvb > ~mythtv/guide.xml 
&& /usr/bin/mythfilldatabase --file 1 -1 ~mythtv/guide.xml


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Re: [mythtv-users] Bootable mythfrontend?

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On Thursday 14 July 2005 13:38, Nick Rout wrote:
> Does anyone know of a distro that boots off a CD and runs mythfrontend?
> I have a few windows boxes around the house that the family refuses to
> change to a decent OS, and WinMYTH seems to be a dog.
>
> But if I could boot off a CD and run the frontend entirely off the CD,
> it would be ultra cool. Something along the lines of knoppix, although
> it could be a lot smaller of course.
>
> If no such thing is presently available, would others be in favour of
> doing this? gentoo is great for making bootable CD's, and there are also
> many howtos about the show on re-mastering knoppix.
>
> Can anyone think of any pitfalls? One is that some info (backend
> address, database password etc) would need to be stored somewhere other
> than on the CD.
knoppmyth:
http://www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html


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Re: [mythtv-users] mythbox won't even beep on boot...

[Stef Coene]

On Monday 04 July 2005 00:08, Oskar Lissheim-Boethius wrote:
> On 3 jul 2005, at 23.21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Yeah, I've done that before too tony, but like he and you said he
> > had booted
> > the box once.
>
> Ok, very weird. Now it works again, though the HD was corrupt (Kernel
> panic when booting) so I had to reinstall it all.
>
> What I did was to simply remove all cables, all PCI-cards, all RAM,
> battery and all drives and the connector. Tried to boot, same thing -
> not a single beep. Put everything back except the drive, and got the
> beep. So, I put the drive back in. Nothing again.
>
> Tried a different drive, and now I got the beep again. Turns out it
> must have been a severely twisted ATA-cable that somehow prohibited
> the mobo to POST. Don't know how, and I don't want to know, really :)
I have a box with a video card, 2x network card and a scsi card (all pci).  I 
have 5 pci slots.  There is only 1 combination I can put them in to get this 
box booting.  1 card in the wrong slot and it don't event wants to beep !!!


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Re: [mythtv-users] bigger fonts please

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On Friday 24 June 2005 00:45, Korey Fort wrote:
> Is there a howto on writing a theme anywhere?
Not that I know, but take a look at myxer:
http://lisadaveh.home.comcast.net/myxer/
It will give you the possilibility the easy choose the background / buttons / 
water marks.  You can also choose the text style from a few previous defined 
syles.  But creating your own style is easy if you edit the xml files.



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Re: [mythtv-users] myxer theme configurator

[Stef Coene]

On Wednesday 22 June 2005 15:20, Phill Edwards wrote:
> This sounds great, but I cant' get it working. I downloaded myxer.tar
> and untarred it into /var/www/html which is m\the root dir for apache
> on my FC3 distro. I can get the indedx page up but when I select one
> of the links for buttons I just a table of grey buttons all saying
> "oops". Similarly, when I click the backgrounds link I get a mostly
> empty table with some cells containing "oops". So I'm not able to
> select anything to get a preview.
>
> The dir /usr/share/mythtv/themes/Myxer/MyxerCustomizer exists and
> there are some sub-dirs under it which contain images etc.
>
> Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I'd really like to try this out.
You need to have gd support in php so php can manipulate images.  For debian, 
the packages name is php4-gd.  I think it is called php-gd in FC3.

> PS, your page has an invalid link under the "myxer frontend" heading -
> http://www.docum.org/staf/mythtv/myxer.php
Updated, that was an old url.

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Re: [mythtv-users] myxer theme configurator

[Stef Coene]

On Wednesday 22 June 2005 13:45, David Whyte wrote:
> That is fantastic Stef, a job very well done.
>
> The next step now Stef has done this, is for someone with the smarts
> to integrate it into the MythWeb look and feel, and make it so you can
> actually setup the theme on the fly.
I can do this, but I don't know if this is a good idea.  It means that you 
have to run and install mythweb on each frontend to update the mixer theme.

If you give the user running the web-server write access to the myxer 
settings, it can update the settings directly.  But this is a serious 
security risk.  On the other hand, I think most frontend boxes are only 
accessible from the LAN.

It's also possible to generate a config file that can be used by 
MyxerCustomizer to update the settings.  So you create a theme with "my" 
myxer configurator, download a config file and use MyxerCustomizer to do the 
needed changes.

Or "my" myxer configurator gives you a shell script that you can execute.

Mhh, I think I will go for the security risk for now and update the settings 
directly.  But first I have to add a submenu so you can choose the text 
highlighting.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: myxer theme configurator

[Stef Coene]

On Wednesday 22 June 2005 13:09, you wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 June 2005 12:42, Dave Hofstra wrote:
> > The placement looks great here. (although the preview might be nice if
> > it were a little larger)
>
> I now, but if I make it larger, the left menu will be to wide.  You can
> click on the preview to get a bigger one.  I can make the size of menu and
> the preview selectable  I will try that if I have some time today.
Size of menu (and so the preview) is choosable, max = 800, min = 200.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: myxer theme configurator

[Stef Coene]

On Wednesday 22 June 2005 12:42, Dave Hofstra wrote:
> The placement looks great here. (although the preview might be nice if
> it were a little larger)
I now, but if I make it larger, the left menu will be to wide.  You can click 
on the preview to get a bigger one.  I can make the size of menu and the 
preview selectable  I will try that if I have some time today.

> I ran it locally, and had to change only the following 2 things.
>
> 1.  In common.php line 5, it should probably read:
>
>$Myxer_dir = "/usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/Myxer/MyxerCustomizer" ;
I already covered this in my blog.  
My mythtv is installed in /usr/share/mythtv/, I updated common.php so it looks 
by default in the local subdir too.

> 2.  I had to adjust the sql permissions of my webserver user to 'no
> password'.
sql permissions ???

> >  You still need to run the Myxer configuration script to, but
> > at least you have an idea about how it will look like.
>
> Maybe I'll update MyxerCustomizer to be able to take a 'copy&pasted'
> output from Myxer_conf sometime.  That'd be pretty cool.
Or maybe I can create a config file (xml file ?) that MyxerCustomizer can use 
to update the settings.  That's for the finishing touch ;)

> > I'm no going to spend a lot of time in these scripts because the new
> > MythtUI will do probaly do a better job.  But I think it makes the myxer
> > theme more attractive then it already was.
>
> It certainly adds qute a bit to it, thanks!  I was looking over your
> code, and I am sure it would have taken me 2-3 years to do that
> myself.
I think it took me 8 hours of coding.  I never manipulated images with php, 
but it was fun to learn.

> As far as hosting, my webserver does not provide php support.  I could
> eventually host it also on my local machine's webserver, but I would
> have to tighten things up a little bit first.
No problem.  But I have the same problem, I'm not sure if my server is secure 
enough.  There is not much important data on it and I also have it all 
locally, but still..

On my todo list is also integration with mythweb.


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[mythtv-users] myxer theme configurator

[Stef Coene]

Hi,

I created some php scripts so you can preview the myxer theme:
http://www.docum.org/staf/blog/index.php?catid=2&blogid=1

You can choose the background, watermarks and buttons.  It will generate a 
preview how mythtv will probably look.  This is not perfect.  I don't know 
the exact place of the menu and the images, but at least it will give you an 
idea how it will look like.

You can run it from my webserver (mirrors are welcome) or install it locally.  
It will not update the myxer config files, but it will give you the names of 
the used files.  You still need to run the Myxer configuration script to, but 
at least you have an idea about how it will look like.

I'm no going to spend a lot of time in these scripts because the new MythtUI 
will do probaly do a better job.  But I think it makes the myxer theme more 
attractive then it already was.


Have fun.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Uninstall MySQL

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 15:20, ian swanson wrote:
> I wish to Uninstall MySQL from Fedora Core 3. This is because I beleive
> that it isn't installed properly. How do I go about doing this? Thanks,
> Ian.
I don't use Fedora, but "rpm -qa" gives you all installed packages.  Filter 
for mysql:
rpm -qa | grep mysql
and remove them with "rpm -e ".


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myxer Update - This time its a BIG one! (and probably the last one for a while....)

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:57, Dave Hofstra wrote:
> Great Job!  I would say, just integrate the buttons into your scheme,
> and clean up the interface a little, and that'd provide what people
> are looking for.  I'm very impressed.  I have been looking over php
> for a few days, and I cant even get it to display an image yet.  he he
> he
I created .txt versions of all php files so you can download them if you want:
http://www.docum.org/staf/mythtv/myxer.php.txt

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myxer Update - This time its a BIG one! (and probably the last one for a while....)

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 15:00, Fred Squires wrote:
> Why not try to make images of each peice, background, buttons, text,
> etc...(as transparent png's with transparent backgrounds, except for
> the background images of course) positioned where it would be on a
> typical mythtv menu screen and with each selection overlay that image
> on top of the other selections.  That way you wouldn't have to try to
> recreate the whole image.  I really don't know how easy this would be,
> it just seems like it would be easier than trying to recreate the
> whole image each time.

Anyone with enough qt / mythtv knowledge to dump the relevant parts as 
transparent png's?

I also don't know where exactly the text and / or watemarks are located in the 
window.  Mhh, maybe time to dive in the mythftontend source and try qt.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myxer Update - This time its a BIG one! (and probably the last one for a while....)

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:19, Scott wrote:
> Rather than trying to build a composite image from a background,
> graphic elements, and text, could CSS2 positioning be used instead?
> For example, you would set the background of a  class="background"> element to be the background of the MythTV
> screen. Next you would use a php function to construct a MythTV
> button but putting another graphic into a  with
> text contained in that  and use absolute positioning for the
> whole  element to place it at the appropriate
> location location on the .
>
> Obviously this wouldn't be fully cross browser compatible but it
> would work with Mozilla and maybe even IE6.
>
> You might also need to keep some meta data about the elements you're
> laying out. For example, there maybe a meta data based rule that say
> only 5  from the theme XYZ can fit on a  class="background"> because of the button height but from the theme
> ABC you could position up to 6 .
The problem is not the image handling with php (my "demo" is working as a 
proof of concept), but to get the preview like the mythfrontend menu will 
look like.  If you want a perfect preview, you have to use the "real" code 
that generates the menu in mythfrontend.

So, displaying the background and the watermarks and maybe the buttons is all 
you can do with php and/or css.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myxer Update - This time its a BIG one! (and probably the last one for a while....)

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 13:09, David Whyte wrote:
> Hmm...I don't think that is quite what Dave is after.  At least, its
> not quite what I was hoping for, which would be a way to construct a
> mini-example of how the theme would look by choosing your options and
> an image beng rendered almost as if it was a screenshot of the actual
> theme you would create with those options.
>
> Does that make any sense???
Yes ;)

The main problem is that's is allmost impossible to do this with php (or any 
other language).  You can put images together (like the background and the 
watermark), but adding text and other stuff so it looks like a "real" mythtv 
menu is not possible.  Or there must be a way to launch mythfrontend and take 
a screenshot from a webpage.

The only solution I see is a menu within mythfrontend where you can do this.  
So the rendering of the preview is done with the same code that generates the 
menu's.

What about copying the mythtv frontend code that generates the menu and add 
some extra keystrokes so you can switch between the options?  So you can 
quickly choose an other background or watermark.

Maybe this is already / will be implemented in the new MythUI code ?


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myxer Update - This time its a BIG one! (and probably the last one for a while....)

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> I think what people are looking for eventually is some kind of php
> thingy that would have like one area about 480 pixels at the bottom of
> the screen that shows a little preview of mythfrontend's main menu,
> and by selecting buttons or icons or whatever from little drop-down
> lists, they could change the preview at the bottom of the screen.
> That'd be pretty wicked for sure!

Something like this:
http://www.docum.org/staf/mythtv/myxer.php
(I know the page is ugly to watch, but it's more the test the idea too see if 
it's possible to implement this)

For now, it's only working for background + watermarks.
I have no idea if it's possible to implement the text of the menu.  I don't 
think you can be 100% sure the text will be the same in php as in mytthv.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv setup total failure - how to start over?

[Stef Coene]

On Monday 20 June 2005 05:32, Todd Bailey wrote:
> I tried this suggestion and the files are still there.
>
> "... You need to use "apt-get --purge remove" for the config files to be
> removed. It's a feature rather than a limitation"
>
> Feature my Ass,  I want to remove , uninstall, delete, start over, revert
> to prior to installation,  etc
Then do a reinstall ;)
You can uninstall a package so the binary's are removed, but the config files 
are saved.  Or you can purge a package so all files (including config files) 
are removed.  If you reinstall a package and it finds some changed config 
file, it will ask you what to to with it (overwrite it or not).

> This stuff is still beta (at best) in my mind, and I am being kind!
Then don't use it.

> So far the only way I found that works is a reinstall of the OS including a
> reformat
>
> Everyone complains how "bad" windows is, 
Not me 

> but at least I don't have to 
> reformat to get rid of the stuff when it doesn't install right...
> (except for norton/symantec)
> I hate windows as much as the next guy but how many times do I have to
> reinstall/reformat and so on before I works?
Linux?  Normally, one.
One of the problems is that apt-get is not the tool you should use to install 
or delete packages.  It's better to use aptitude or dselect (my favorite, but 
you need to know how it works) because they will do a better job.  They still 
use apt to do the magic stuff.  They will also delete the downloaded 
packages.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myxer Update - This time its a BIG one! (and probably the last one for a while....)

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 16 June 2005 22:27, Donavan Stanley wrote:
> On 6/16/05, Dave Hofstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Of course, if anyone who has actual 'talent' (unlike me) wants to help
> > with either integrating Myxer selections inside Mythtv, or even
> > teaching me by example, I'd be happy to try and tackle the thing.
>
> I'd been planning on adding something very much like Myxer to the
> theme code in Myth but as part of the MythUI work.
Any idea when MmythtUI will be released?
I want to do some coding to get a webbased myxer editor, bot not if MythUI is 
released next week 

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myxer Update - This time its a BIG one! (and probably the last one for a while....)

[Stef Coene]

On Saturday 18 June 2005 19:50, Donavan Stanley wrote:
> On 6/18/05, Stef Coene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - transparent png's: very nice, but resizing with php is not so easy and
> > internet explorer can not show them decently
>
> Anyone who's smart enough to be mucking around with MythTV shouldn't
> be stupid enough to still be using IE...
Who said that I was using IE?
Anyone who's smart enough to publish a html page on the internet shouldn't be 
stupid enough to not check the page with different browsers.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myxer Update - This time its a BIG one! (and probably the last one for a while....)

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On Thursday 16 June 2005 20:43, Stef Coene wrote:
> On Thursday 16 June 2005 19:34, Gabe Rubin wrote:
> > I have an idea for myxer, but unfortunatly  my html and php skills are
> > weak.  Is it possible to make an add-on to mythweb that allows you to
> > click radio buttons and preview your customization?  This might make
> > (what is already a great add-on to myth) even better.
>
> I'm a fan of the myxer theme and if there is enough interest, I want to try
> this.
I have a php script to displays the images: 
http://www.docum.org/staf/blog/index.php?blogid=1&archive=2005-6-18
But I have some problems / remarks with it:

- transparent png's: very nice, but resizing with php is not so easy and 
internet explorer can not show them decently

- a typo: it's button_blue_square_flat_bluetwo.png and not 
button_blue_sqare_flat_bluetwo.png

- I tried to sort the backgrounds because each color has the same 4 "types", 
but then I realised, why not let the user create his own background?  Give 
him a type and let choose him the color.  To be implemented somehow 

Maybe some of this is implemented in the new MythUI concept, I don't know.
It will be next week before I can do some more work on this.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myxer Update - This time its a BIG one! (and probably the last one for a while....)

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 16 June 2005 19:34, Gabe Rubin wrote:
> I have an idea for myxer, but unfortunatly  my html and php skills are
> weak.  Is it possible to make an add-on to mythweb that allows you to
> click radio buttons and preview your customization?  This might make
> (what is already a great add-on to myth) even better.
I'm a fan of the myxer theme and if there is enough interest, I want to try 
this.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Debian Sarge Released

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 07 June 2005 18:53, Jang wrote:
> jerome lacoste wrote:
> > If all your PCs are behind a LAN, you can always dynamically create a
> > cache for your downloads without downloading the DVDs. E.g. with
> > apt-proxy
>
> yep... but they are on different location and not connected.
If you only download the first cd, you will have the most-used-packages.  If 
you need additional packages, you can download them, burn them on cd and take 
them with you.
But hey, it's your bandwidth, not mine, and this is a mythtv user list ;)


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Re: [mythtv-users] Debian Sarge Released

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On Tuesday 07 June 2005 13:05, Stef Coene wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 June 2005 08:14, Jang wrote:
> > ;-)
> > I'm currently downloading the 2 DVD images...
>
> Why   You are only wasting bandwidth.
>
> > Will there be new debian packages for the new stable? what do I need to
> > add to my sources file to install the debs on this new debian?
>
> Nop.  Just do "apt-get update" to get the updated packages and "apt-get
> upgrade" to upgrade to the sarge (new stable).  Or use dselect, aptitude or
> an other frontend.
Update to my own post: "apt-get dist-upgrade" and not "apt-get upgrade".


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Re: [mythtv-users] Debian Sarge Released

[Stef Coene]

On Tuesday 07 June 2005 08:14, Jang wrote:
> ;-)
> I'm currently downloading the 2 DVD images...
Why   You are only wasting bandwidth.

> Will there be new debian packages for the new stable? what do I need to
> add to my sources file to install the debs on this new debian?
Nop.  Just do "apt-get update" to get the updated packages and "apt-get 
upgrade" to upgrade to the sarge (new stable).  Or use dselect, aptitude or 
an other frontend.


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Re: [mythtv-users] PHP Errors on Myth-Web

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 26 May 2005 19:51, Christian Borchmann wrote:
> hallo,
>
> i am getting the following errors after upgrading to version 0.18:
>
> *Warning* at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/init.php, line 50:
> session_start():
> open(php_sessions/sess_ee27764eb298379f3fe82d8b7d61276a, O_RDWR) failed:
> No such file or directory (2)
>
> any ideas?
Yep, you have to create a php_sessions directory.
I don't know where it is needd in your case, but you can look in the error log 
of your webserver.  You will find an entry for this with the exact path.  You 
also have to give the web server write access to this directory.  To do this, 
you have to change the owner of this directory to the owner that runs your 
web server.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Installing Binaries

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 19 May 2005 10:48, d2k2 k7 wrote:
> Hi
> i have downloaded all the precompiled binaries for Debian
> and kept them in the " /home/debs/mythtv/ "   folder
>
> i tried editing the sources.list file.
> and then apt-update and apt-get install mythtv
>
> it is now installing.
>
> can anybody tell me what is line to be added to sources.list
If you run 
dpkg-scanpackages  .  /dev/null > Packages
in /home/debs/mythtv/ and put this
deb file:/home/staf/download/linux/debs /
in /etc/apt/sources.list, you can use apt-get to install mythtv.

Or you can put 
deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv
in  /etc/apt/sources.list.

>
> How do i start the mythfrontend.
run mythfrontend :)


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Re: [mythtv-users] Debian install: MySQL problem

[Stef Coene]

On Monday 16 May 2005 16:53, Tim wrote:
> > How about /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt?
>
> In /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt:
> same login and password as in row 6 (mythtv user in MySQL)
Can you login with mysql from the command line with the username and 
password ?


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Debian

[Stef Coene]

On Monday 16 May 2005 18:07,  Childe Roland wrote:
> On a similar note, I can download faster from another computer, then
> burn a CD.  Is it possible to get this working with apt-get??
You can download the packages one by one.  If you only want to do this for 
mythtv, you can try to install them with apt-get install mythtv.  It will 
thell you the packages you need.


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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Debian

[Stef Coene]

On Monday 16 May 2005 11:12, vinod kumar wrote:
> hi,
>
>  i want to do install from command prompts. As the guides require me
> to use apt get commands,which would take me days. This is because the
> type of internet connection i have is dail-up.
You have to download something.  If you do apt-get install myth, it will 
download all you need in 1 go.

>Please tell me another way to install mythtv on debian, eventhough its
> tough
You can install from source, but then you still need to download the mythtv 
source and all other stuff you need to compile mythtv.
You can download the *deb files on an other computer with a descent internet 
conenction and install them with dpkg.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Debian install: MySQL problem

[Stef Coene]

On Sunday 15 May 2005 22:48, Tim Hoebeek wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm trying to install MythTV on Debian testing, but I run into some
> problems getting the mythtv and mythtv-database packages to install.
>
> When trying apt-get install mythtv, I get the following error:
>
> dpkg: error processing mythtv-database (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mythtv:
>  mythtv depends on mythtv-database (= 0.18-1); however:
>   Package mythtv-database is not configured yet.
> dpkg: error processing mythtv (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  mythtv-database
>  mythtv
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
> Then I tried the following:
>  ~# dpkg-reconfigure mythtv
>  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mythtv is broken or not fully installed
>  ~# dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
>  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mythtv-database is broken or not fully
> installed Both aren't installed yet.
> dpgk-reconfigure --force doesn't make any difference either.
>
> This is my mysql.user table:
>  +---+--+--+
>
>  | host  | user | password |
>
>  +---+--+--+
>
>  | localhost | root |  |
>  | pcname| root |  |
>  | localhost |  |  |
>  | pcname|  |  |
>  | localhost | debian-sys-maint | password |
>  | localhost | mythtv   | mythical | (same pswd as in
>
> /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt)
>  +---+--+--+
>
> The mythtv password is now plain text, since I wasn't sure if I was
> escaping the special characters correctly.
>
> I don't know what else to try :-(
Are there no more errors when you install or reconfigure mythtv 


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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Debian Packages for mythtv .18

[Stef Coene]

On Friday 13 May 2005 13:27, Mark Boydell wrote:
> shouldn't that be
>  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable mythtv ?
You need
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
to so statisfy some dependencies.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Debian Packages for mythtv .18

[Stef Coene]

On Wednesday 04 May 2005 20:36, Nathan Poznick wrote:
> Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > Anyone heard anything?  Are people just giving up and going Xfedora?
>
> People are being patient and waiting with the knowledge that Matt hasn't
> failed us so far and he will update the packages as soon as he's not
> traveling.
I tried to buld my own .18 debs, and it worked.  If you really, really want 
them, I can put them online.
But there is still .17 in the name ;), I don't know how to change this.


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Re: [mythtv-users] "Cell Microprocessor Simultaneously Decoding 48 MPEG-2 Streams"

[Stef Coene]

On Monday 02 May 2005 19:53, Devan Lippman wrote:
> I hope I can get one of these as the CPU for my machine!  Been a while 
> since I read that explination but I think that its a series of power
> CPUs arranged similar to a beowulf cluster all on one chip which means
> it shouldn't be too far off from existing CPUs that linux will run on
> in the final presentation to the system.
Mhh, 1 cell = 1 stripped down cpu (based on a Power PC) + 8 SPE's.  The CPU is 
stripped from all extra logic.  It will _not_ run power pc binary's.  (I'm 
not a cpu specialist, but there is for instance no memory protection.)

The real power are the 8 SPE's.  You can stream data from SPE to SPE.  So it's 
perfect for decoding / encoding data streams.  1 SPE can filter the input, 
another color adjustment, 2 others can do the encoding and so on.

An other interesing stuff is the fact you have hardware cells (1 CPU + 8 
SPE's) and software cells.  The software cell can use 1 or more hardware 
cells to do the job (in the PS3 there are 4 hardware cells).  Combined with 
the fact that hardware cells can find each other when they are connected, you 
can use the cell in your printer to help encoding mpeg2 streams in your myth 
box.  Actually, you don't have to do anything, the cell in the mythtv bow 
will use the cell in the printer if it need so.

Just do me a favor, and read the papers yourself :)  It's a long time I read 
them and they are really interesting.

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[mythtv-users] "Cell Microprocessor Simultaneously Decoding 48 MPEG-2 Streams"

[Stef Coene]

Article:
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20050425/104149/

More cell info:
http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cells/Cell0.html

I hope I can get one of these on a pci card.  CPU power enough for 
decoding/encoding ..
The PlayStation 3 will have 4 cell processers inside ..


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Re: [mythtv-users] Debian Packages for mythtv .18

[Stef Coene]

On Saturday 30 April 2005 21:23, Matt wrote:
> Does anyone know who maintains the debian packages for mythtv?  It
> looks like they're still at .17 meaning I can't upgrade my remote
> frontend xbox.
>
> http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/
>
> I was looking at the dates from when .17 was released until when they
> made the .17 deb packages and it wasn't more than about a week.  It's
> been several weeks now with now .18 packages.  I noticed Matt
> Zimmerman is listed at the bottom, I've CC'd him on this e-mail.
See his old post:

[mythtv-users] MythTV 0.18 debs
  From: Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
  Date: 23/04/05 00:33
   
I am away on a trip, and will not be able to prepare Debian or Ubuntu
packages of MythTV 0.18 until I return (~10 days at best).  Please do not
send me email asking about the packages; I do not have time to reply to
everyone who has already done so, and I hope that this announcement will
stem the tide.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Booting from CF, everything else over NFS

[Stef Coene]

On Wednesday 20 April 2005 15:45, Robert Kulagowski wrote:
>  > Well, I'm booting from CF and mounting /usr and the MythVideo library
>  > over nfs, but streaming actual TV playback.
>
> I've got an 8MB CF and a CF to IDE adapter.  I've got a machine
> currently running FC3, and it's noisy.  I can't pxeboot the machine, and
> I'd like to get the hard drive out of there for noise reasons.
>
> Is it just a matter of doing a fdisk / mkfs on the CF device, copying
> over /boot, copying the contents of the existing drive over to the NFS
> server and changing /etc/fstab to have the mount point of / to be over NFS?
You have to follow the diskless client guides you can find on the internet, 
except for the part where you load the kernel.  Because you can load the 
kernel from your CF card.  And that's the only thing you have to put on that 
card.  And maybe grub or lilo as a bootloader.

You can tell the kernel where it can find it's root filesystem with this 
parameter:
nfsroot=192.168.7.14:/export/nfs
You have to put this in your lilo or grub config.

Check the bottom of http://www.kegel.com/linux/pxe.html for some links.

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Re: [mythtv-users] www.d1.com.au

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 07 April 2005 16:29, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 16:23 +0200, Stef Coene wrote:
> > Or he can compile his own binary's and resell the HMC, there is nothing
> > they can do about it.
>
> Yes, he may distribute his own modified (I don't think making a
> modification is even a requirement) HMC, however don't omit the
> importance of the point:
>
> That he too must make his (modified) source code available to anyone he
> makes a binary available to and anyone receiving that source code can
> contribute any of the diffs back upstream, release the whole source for
> free availability, or he too can turn around and make another "HMC"
> product with all of the same obligations.
I'ts even worse, if you use the GPL'ed myth library and use it in your 
not-GPL'ed product, you have to relase ALL code under the GPL license.
That's why they call the GPL a viral license.

For those who are bored, I will stop this thread.  There are numerous sites 
around license issues.  My favorite is the discussions that sometimes happens 
on /. (http://slashdot.org).


End of discussion: http://www.d1.com.au is doing nothing wrong.
You can only ask them polite if they will join this list and share some 
knowledge.

Stef

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Re: [mythtv-users] www.d1.com.au

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 07 April 2005 18:23, Isaac Richards wrote:
> On Thursday 07 April 2005 11:17 am, Peter Dash wrote:
> > > If someone ownes a HMC, he can do a diff with the mythtv source and see
> > > what they changed.  Maybe some changes can be contributed back to the
> > > mythtv project.
> >
> > So the next obvious question is: has anybody bought one of these (or
> > know someone who has) and had a look at the code... and are you
> > willing to distribute it to whichever devs might be interested or post
> > it somewhere for us all to have a look at?
>
> Their changes are in the iso updates you can download, too.  Last time I
> checked (quite a while ago, granted), there wasn't much of anything useful.
I downloaded the iso update and I found libmyth 0.14 + mythgallery and other 
stuff like xine.  They use kernel 2.6.7.


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Re: [mythtv-users] www.d1.com.au

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 07 April 2005 14:25, Stef Coene wrote:
> On Thursday 07 April 2005 13:42, dean collins wrote:
> > Actually I found out about them after doing some research on cablecard.
> > I've had a chat to the company and they tell me that there software is
> > 20-50% better than anything else available on the MythTV platform
> > because of the amount of independent development they have done.
> >
> > What I am trying to understand is what rights they have to sell software
> > that has been developed from the Myth TV platform.
>
> Why should they not be able to do so ?
> Mythtv is software released under the GPL license.  If they take the mythtv
> source and change something, they have to release the changes under the GPL
> license.
> They may sell Mythtv, but if you get the binary's from them, they have to
> give you the option to get the source.  A link to an ftp site is enough
> (some argue they can also send a printed version of the source).
From http://www.d1.com.au/downloads.html you can download the Manual for the 
"Home Media Centre.  On page 58, you can find the GPL license and this is a 
snip form it:

Your Rights Under the GNU GPL

The software used in the Home Media Centre is based on GNU General
Public License (GNU GPL) software, with some further enhancements
and modifications.

This gives you, the purchaser, certain legal rights including the right to
examine, modify and re-distribute the source code without the permission
of Development One. To allow you to do these things, Development One
has placed a copy of the Home Media Centre source code on the unit
itself. In order to access the source code you will need to connect a VGA
monitor, keyboard and mouse to the appropriate ports on the back of the
unit.  You can then logon as user ârootâ with the password 
âHomeMediaCentreâ. You can find the source code in various directories
under â/root/hmc/â. For further information regarding the software and the
modifications you may make to it, refer to the MythTV PVR Project at
http://www.mythtv.org.

However, be aware that you may only modify and distribute the source
code in accordance with the GNU GPL. Before you do any of these
things please ensure you fully understand your obligations by viewing the
full text of the GNU GPL at http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt.



So the software is not violating of the GPL in anyway ..
If someone ownes a HMC, he can do a diff with the mythtv source and see what 
they changed.  Maybe some changes can be contributed back to the mythtv 
project.
Or he can compile his own binary's and resell the HMC, there is nothing they 
can do about it.

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Re: [mythtv-users] www.d1.com.au

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 07 April 2005 14:38, dean collins wrote:
> Thanks Stef, I appreciate the heads up.
>
> Is there a central body managing compliance and 'infringements'
http://www.gnu.org/ : information about the GPL and other open source license 
models
http://www.fsf.org/ : "company" behind the gnu foundation
http://www.softwarefreedom.org/ : law center created by the fsf director

I suggest we/you/I do the following: get in touch with that company.  Ask them 
if they use mythtv code in their product.  
If they do, ask them: if you buy a box of them, will you get the source under 
the GPL license.
If they you can get the source, no problem.
If you can not get the source, we/you/I/a_lawer have to explain to them what 
the GPL means and why they are violating the GPL license.


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Re: [mythtv-users] www.d1.com.au

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 07 April 2005 13:42, dean collins wrote:
> Actually I found out about them after doing some research on cablecard.
> I've had a chat to the company and they tell me that there software is
> 20-50% better than anything else available on the MythTV platform
> because of the amount of independent development they have done.
>
> What I am trying to understand is what rights they have to sell software
> that has been developed from the Myth TV platform.
Why should they not be able to do so ?
Mythtv is software released under the GPL license.  If they take the mythtv 
source and change something, they have to release the changes under the GPL 
license.
They may sell Mythtv, but if you get the binary's from them, they have to give 
you the option to get the source.  A link to an ftp site is enough (some 
argue they can also send a printed version of the source).

They may add extra functions like a plugin as long as they don't use the 
mythtv source for there work.  They may not link against the mythtv library 
(this is a tricky one).  If the library is released under the LGPL, the are 
able to do so (from http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-not-lgpl.html):

The GNU Project has two principal licenses to use for libraries. One is the 
GNU Library GPL; the other is the ordinary GNU GPL. The choice of license 
makes a big difference: using the Library GPL permits use of the library in 
proprietary programs; using the ordinary GPL for a library makes it available 
only for free programs.

So, as long as you can get the source under the GPL license IF you buy a 
mythtv based box from them, there is no problem.


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Re: [mythtv-users] frontend only remote?

[Stef Coene]

On Monday 04 April 2005 19:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Tis would be great.  Especially as I have a grey Hauppauge remote doing
> nothing. Anyone care to tell how to build a receiver, or point to a how to
> on it?
http://lnx.manoweb.com/lirc/?partType=section&partName=introduction

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Re: [mythtv-users] Daylight Savings Time, NTP, and reboot

[Stef Coene]

On Thursday 31 March 2005 20:06, Chris Clarke wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Hoping for some quick guidance on this, I've got myth up and
> running and all is good.  I'm going away for a couple days starting
> tomorrow and I won't be back until tuesday or wednesday.  Is Daylight
> Savings Time going to screw anything up for me?  Should I set the
> backend computer to re-boot early Sunday morning?
I don't think that's needed.
But I had a problem this weekend with daylight savings (here in Belgium we 
switched last sunday morning).  The script I use (tv_grab_be_tvb) to pull the 
channel information from the net ran at 1 o'clock.  It inserted the time 
information as UTC +1.  But after 2 o'clock the timezone was UTC+2.  
The system was running in UTC +2, but the information in the database was 
still for UTC +1.  So all time information was 1 hour off.  All schedules 
were recording at the wrong time.

My solution is to run the update script at 4 o'clock so it wil run after the 
time changed.


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