Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] How may bytes available on a single layer DVD-R?

2005-03-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Not marketspeak anymore.  Drive makers have been doing it long
enough that it's not "weird" anymore, like it used to be.
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html
When computers work in base 10, then it stops being weird >:-(
--
	Agreed.  I know of the formalization of 2^10 = KiB, etc. I chose 
not to sound like an idiot utting the words "Kibibyte" and "Mebibyte." 
Using invented words such as these confuse the people who are too ignorant 
to distinguish the difference, anyway.  If they rolled off the tongue a 
bit easier (e.g. "kilibyte" and "megibyte") I might be more receptive, but 
they just sound stupid and are in almost all cases, redundant.

	To quote from that page:
"It is important to recognize that the new prefixes for binary multiples 
are not part of the International System of Units (SI), the modern metric 
system. However, for ease of understanding and recall, they were derived 
from the SI prefixes for positive powers of ten. As can be seen from the 
above table, the name of each new prefix is derived from the name of the 
corresponding SI prefix by retaining the first two letters of the name of 
the SI prefix and adding the letters "bi," which recalls the word 
"binary." Similarly, the symbol of each new prefix is derived from the 
symbol of the corresponding SI prefix by adding the letter "i," which 
again recalls the word "binary." (For consistency with the other prefixes 
for binary multiples, the symbol Ki is used for 210 rather than ki.)"

So again, I maintain that a blank DVD-R hold 4.38 GB of data.
-Cory
("Flame on, Garth!")
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* Cory Papenfuss*
* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student   *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
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Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] How may bytes available on a single layer DVD-R?

2005-03-13 Thread Stephen Boddy
On Sunday 13 March 2005 17:59, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 12:02 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> > > How may bytes or MB is the capacity of a DVD-R disc? I am currently
> > > using a guessitimate of 4250MB as the limit for my shrinking routine
> > > but it would be nice to have the actaul value for fine tuning.
> >
> > It's commonly referred to as 4.7 GB.  Of course, that's 4.7 GB in
> > marketspeak, which means its 4,700,000,000 bytes.  In *real* GB, divide
> > by 2^30 = (1024*1024*1024) = 1073741824.  For MB, divide by 2^20.
> >
> > Thus, it's
> > 4.7e9/2^30 = 4.377 GB, or
> > 4.7e9/2^20 = 4482 MB
>
> Not marketspeak anymore.  Drive makers have been doing it long
> enough that it's not "weird" anymore, like it used to be.
>
> http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html

When computers work in base 10, then it stops being weird >:-(
-- 
Steve Boddy
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Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] How may bytes available on a single layer DVD-R?

2005-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 12:02 -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
> > How may bytes or MB is the capacity of a DVD-R disc? I am currently using a
> > guessitimate of 4250MB as the limit for my shrinking routine but it would be
> > nice to have the actaul value for fine tuning.
> >
>   It's commonly referred to as 4.7 GB.  Of course, that's 4.7 GB in 
> marketspeak, which means its 4,700,000,000 bytes.  In *real* GB, divide by 
> 2^30 = (1024*1024*1024) = 1073741824.  For MB, divide by 2^20.
> 
> Thus, it's
> 4.7e9/2^30 = 4.377 GB, or
> 4.7e9/2^20 = 4482 MB

Not marketspeak anymore.  Drive makers have been doing it long
enough that it's not "weird" anymore, like it used to be.

http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html

-- 
-
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson, LA USA
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shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for
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Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] How may bytes available on a single layer DVD-R?

2005-03-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
How may bytes or MB is the capacity of a DVD-R disc? I am currently using a
guessitimate of 4250MB as the limit for my shrinking routine but it would be
nice to have the actaul value for fine tuning.
	It's commonly referred to as 4.7 GB.  Of course, that's 4.7 GB in 
marketspeak, which means its 4,700,000,000 bytes.  In *real* GB, divide by 
2^30 = (1024*1024*1024) = 1073741824.  For MB, divide by 2^20.

Thus, it's
4.7e9/2^30 = 4.377 GB, or
4.7e9/2^20 = 4482 MB
-Cory
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* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student   *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
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[mythtv-users] [OT] How may bytes available on a single layer DVD-R?

2005-03-13 Thread William

This is fairly off topic but since its for my mythtv dvd burning software it
may interest someone else too.

How may bytes or MB is the capacity of a DVD-R disc? I am currently using a
guessitimate of 4250MB as the limit for my shrinking routine but it would be
nice to have the actaul value for fine tuning.

Thanks for the help guys.

Bill


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