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Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 05:06:36PM -0500, Joseph A. Caputo wrote: My new(er) on-board (Chaintech 7NIF2) GF4 MX 440 uses an NV18 encoder, which IMHO really sucks. The NV18 on my ASUS GF4 440MX looks just fine. I can't see how the NV17 could've been dramatically better. I'm using the 6629 drivers too. I dunno; maybe it's not the chip itself; maybe it's the vendor implementation. Mine (NV18) is on-board with shared video memory and S-Video out; my old card (NV17) was an AGP card with its own memory and proprietary Nvidia output that required a dongle to get S-Video/Composite outputs. I really have no idea what's making the difference; I only know that on my system there is no comparison, my on-board TV-out just plain sucks. -JAC ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 05:06:36PM -0500, Joseph A. Caputo wrote: > My new(er) on-board (Chaintech 7NIF2) GF4 MX 440 uses an NV18 encoder, > which IMHO really sucks. The NV18 on my ASUS GF4 440MX looks just fine. I can't see how the NV17 could've been dramatically better. I'm using the 6629 drivers too. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
Big Wave Dave wrote: Probably a silly question... How can you find out if you have NV17 or NV18... etc. Run '/sbin/lspci'. Mine says: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] (rev a3) -JAC ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
Anybody thinking about getting one of these should keep in mind that a significant number of people (including myself) have had problems with the MX 440 and Nvidia's more recent driver versions. Unless you're really trying hard to save the money, my recommendation would be to shell out the extra $30 or so and get at least a 5200. Shawn Asmussen ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users I have an MX 440 that I've used with Myth from driver versions 4363 to 6629 without any problems whatsoever. ___ Ditto. No problems here. Looks as good as the regular TV picture (analog cable) through an S-Video cable. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 11 Memory at ce00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=cfee] Memory at b000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Expansion ROM at 0002 [disabled] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 3.0 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be curious to know what brand/model has a NV17 encoder. My XFX MX440 is the 8X version, thus it has a NV18 encoder. And I agree, the quality is not what I've seen on my friend's NV17-based board. Mine is an NV17, I think it was an MSI. IT's fairly old, at least 2, 2 1/2 years. Here is lspci -v: :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 8783 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 16 Memory at e000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at c800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0 So yeah, it's an MSI... :) Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
I'd be curious to know what brand/model has a NV17 encoder. My XFX MX440 is the 8X version, thus it has a NV18 encoder. And I agree, the quality is not what I've seen on my friend's NV17-based board. I found this on the (in)famous wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce4 Interesting info at the bottom... I wonder if MX460 boards would work well for us if it can be found at retailers: A quick search at my usual online stores did not turn up anything. :( On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:06:36 -0500, Joseph A. Caputo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Different revision of the GF4 MX 440 use(d) different TV encoder chips > for their TV-out. Depending on who you ask, some are great and some > suck. > > My original LeadTek GF4 MX 420 used an NV17 encoder chip, which was > probably about as good as I could have wanted without going to a > PVR-350 or DVI/component. > > My new(er) on-board (Chaintech 7NIF2) GF4 MX 440 uses an NV18 encoder, > which IMHO really sucks. > > Just my $.02. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
Looks like I am running an NV18 as well. The picture quality is pretty good with SVIDEO, in my opinion. I guess its hard to say unless I had an NV17 to compare it to. Dave On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:53:25 -0500, Craig Partin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:11:23 -0800, Big Wave Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Probably a silly question... How can you find out if you have NV17 or > > NV18... etc. > > > > Dave > > lspci will tell you. I have 2 NV18 boards and they seem fine to me. > Maybe I am less sensitive to TV quality than others, but it looks > pretty good to me. > > > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:06:36 -0500, Joseph A. Caputo > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wednesday 23 March 2005 16:56, Will Dormann wrote: > > > > Shawn Asmussen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Anybody thinking about getting one of these should keep in mind that > > > a > > > > > significant number of people (including myself) have had problems > > > with > > > > > the MX 440 and Nvidia's more recent driver versions. Unless you're > > > > > really trying hard to save the money, my recommendation would be to > > > > > shell out the extra $30 or so and get at least a 5200. > > > > > > > > What sort of problems? > > > > > > > > I'm running an MX4000 (Die-shrunk MX 440) with no real problems. > > > > > > Different revision of the GF4 MX 440 use(d) different TV encoder chips > > > for their TV-out. Depending on who you ask, some are great and some > > > suck. > > > > > > My original LeadTek GF4 MX 420 used an NV17 encoder chip, which was > > > probably about as good as I could have wanted without going to a > > > PVR-350 or DVI/component. > > > > > > My new(er) on-board (Chaintech 7NIF2) GF4 MX 440 uses an NV18 encoder, > > > which IMHO really sucks. > > > > > > Just my $.02. > > > > > > -JAC > > > ___ > > > mythtv-users mailing list > > > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > > > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > > > ___ > > mythtv-users mailing list > > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:11:23 -0800, Big Wave Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Probably a silly question... How can you find out if you have NV17 or > NV18... etc. > > Dave lspci will tell you. I have 2 NV18 boards and they seem fine to me. Maybe I am less sensitive to TV quality than others, but it looks pretty good to me. > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:06:36 -0500, Joseph A. Caputo > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 23 March 2005 16:56, Will Dormann wrote: > > > Shawn Asmussen wrote: > > > > > > > > Anybody thinking about getting one of these should keep in mind that > > a > > > > significant number of people (including myself) have had problems > > with > > > > the MX 440 and Nvidia's more recent driver versions. Unless you're > > > > really trying hard to save the money, my recommendation would be to > > > > shell out the extra $30 or so and get at least a 5200. > > > > > > What sort of problems? > > > > > > I'm running an MX4000 (Die-shrunk MX 440) with no real problems. > > > > Different revision of the GF4 MX 440 use(d) different TV encoder chips > > for their TV-out. Depending on who you ask, some are great and some > > suck. > > > > My original LeadTek GF4 MX 420 used an NV17 encoder chip, which was > > probably about as good as I could have wanted without going to a > > PVR-350 or DVI/component. > > > > My new(er) on-board (Chaintech 7NIF2) GF4 MX 440 uses an NV18 encoder, > > which IMHO really sucks. > > > > Just my $.02. > > > > -JAC > > ___ > > mythtv-users mailing list > > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
Probably a silly question... How can you find out if you have NV17 or NV18... etc. Dave On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:06:36 -0500, Joseph A. Caputo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 23 March 2005 16:56, Will Dormann wrote: > > Shawn Asmussen wrote: > > > > > > Anybody thinking about getting one of these should keep in mind that > a > > > significant number of people (including myself) have had problems > with > > > the MX 440 and Nvidia's more recent driver versions. Unless you're > > > really trying hard to save the money, my recommendation would be to > > > shell out the extra $30 or so and get at least a 5200. > > > > What sort of problems? > > > > I'm running an MX4000 (Die-shrunk MX 440) with no real problems. > > Different revision of the GF4 MX 440 use(d) different TV encoder chips > for their TV-out. Depending on who you ask, some are great and some > suck. > > My original LeadTek GF4 MX 420 used an NV17 encoder chip, which was > probably about as good as I could have wanted without going to a > PVR-350 or DVI/component. > > My new(er) on-board (Chaintech 7NIF2) GF4 MX 440 uses an NV18 encoder, > which IMHO really sucks. > > Just my $.02. > > -JAC > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 16:56, Will Dormann wrote: > Shawn Asmussen wrote: > > > > Anybody thinking about getting one of these should keep in mind that a > > significant number of people (including myself) have had problems with > > the MX 440 and Nvidia's more recent driver versions. Unless you're > > really trying hard to save the money, my recommendation would be to > > shell out the extra $30 or so and get at least a 5200. > > What sort of problems? > > I'm running an MX4000 (Die-shrunk MX 440) with no real problems. Different revision of the GF4 MX 440 use(d) different TV encoder chips for their TV-out. Depending on who you ask, some are great and some suck. My original LeadTek GF4 MX 420 used an NV17 encoder chip, which was probably about as good as I could have wanted without going to a PVR-350 or DVI/component. My new(er) on-board (Chaintech 7NIF2) GF4 MX 440 uses an NV18 encoder, which IMHO really sucks. Just my $.02. -JAC ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
Shawn Asmussen wrote: Anybody thinking about getting one of these should keep in mind that a significant number of people (including myself) have had problems with the MX 440 and Nvidia's more recent driver versions. Unless you're really trying hard to save the money, my recommendation would be to shell out the extra $30 or so and get at least a 5200. What sort of problems? I'm running an MX4000 (Die-shrunk MX 440) with no real problems. -WD ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:40:36 -0700, Shawn Asmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:28:25 -0600, Stimpy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For anyone looking to make the switch to a Nvidia card for their Myth > > system, TigerDirect has a MX 440 for $19.99 after rebate. Pretty easy > > on the wallet if you ask me, and maybe worth having around for a > > backup or for building that remote frontend you've been thinking > > about! > > Anybody thinking about getting one of these should keep in mind that a > significant number of people (including myself) have had problems with > the MX 440 and Nvidia's more recent driver versions. Unless you're > really trying hard to save the money, my recommendation would be to > shell out the extra $30 or so and get at least a 5200. > > Shawn Asmussen > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > I have an MX 440 that I've used with Myth from driver versions 4363 to 6629 without any problems whatsoever. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:28:25 -0600, Stimpy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For anyone looking to make the switch to a Nvidia card for their Myth > system, TigerDirect has a MX 440 for $19.99 after rebate. Pretty easy > on the wallet if you ask me, and maybe worth having around for a > backup or for building that remote frontend you've been thinking > about! Anybody thinking about getting one of these should keep in mind that a significant number of people (including myself) have had problems with the MX 440 and Nvidia's more recent driver versions. Unless you're really trying hard to save the money, my recommendation would be to shell out the extra $30 or so and get at least a 5200. Shawn Asmussen ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Anyone know what's the difference between an MX400 and MX4000 ? advantages/disadvantages? Ricardo - Original Message - From: "Tom Lichti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stimpy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Discussion about mythtv" Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440 > Stimpy wrote: > > >For anyone looking to make the switch to a Nvidia card for their Myth > >system, TigerDirect has a MX 440 for $19.99 after rebate. Pretty easy > >on the wallet if you ask me, and maybe worth having around for a > >backup or for building that remote frontend you've been thinking > >about! > > > >http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo= 1057516&sku=P56-2732%20W > > > >It has a heat sink instead of a fan. Not sure if all MX 440s are that > >way or not. I'm currently using a FX 5200. > > > > > My 440 has a heat sink. That's a pretty good deal. I think I paid $100 > for mine... > > Tom > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Stimpy wrote: For anyone looking to make the switch to a Nvidia card for their Myth system, TigerDirect has a MX 440 for $19.99 after rebate. Pretty easy on the wallet if you ask me, and maybe worth having around for a backup or for building that remote frontend you've been thinking about! http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=1057516&sku=P56-2732%20W It has a heat sink instead of a fan. Not sure if all MX 440s are that way or not. I'm currently using a FX 5200. My 440 has a heat sink. That's a pretty good deal. I think I paid $100 for mine... Tom ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Cheap GeForce4 MX 440
For anyone looking to make the switch to a Nvidia card for their Myth system, TigerDirect has a MX 440 for $19.99 after rebate. Pretty easy on the wallet if you ask me, and maybe worth having around for a backup or for building that remote frontend you've been thinking about! http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=1057516&sku=P56-2732%20W It has a heat sink instead of a fan. Not sure if all MX 440s are that way or not. I'm currently using a FX 5200. Ryan ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
