Re: [mythtv-users] DVB EIT/EPG

2005-03-19 Thread Stephen Williams
Having restarted a few times things seemed to have improved, maybe
there was something a little screwy about that inital run.

One recurring issue i'm still having is that a few channels (e.g.
channel 5, BBC Three, The Hits, Sky News) are only getting guide data
for up to 3 days ahead instead of the expected 7/8 days. I know guide
data should be available further ahead (tv_grab_dvb received it, as
does my set-top-box).

I presume this has something to do with the mux that the guide data is
coming from, i.e. maybe some muxes only transmit abbreviated guide
data, whilst others (e.g. BBC) transmit the full data? If this is the
case, how can I set which mux is being used to get guide data?

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] DVB EIT/EPG

2005-03-18 Thread Robin Elvin
On Friday 18 March 2005 16:11, Stephen Williams wrote:
> > Check that you haven't got "on demand" set for your card.
> 
> It isn't.
>  
> > > Secondly, I only appear to be getting guide data for the mux/transport
> > > i'm tuned to, even though in the UK (Freeview) the guide data for all
> > > muxes are sent on every mux, is this correct / expected?
> > 
> > Not quite true, some mux's are better than others for EIT data. mux one
> > seems to have everything most of the time.
> 
> That's what I expected. I left it on live-tv on BBC1 for half an hour,
> even then I had no guide data for (example) Channel-5. Flicking over
> to channel 5 manually resulted in guide data being built up for that
> channel.
> 
> > > The result is
> > > that i'd have to sit there watching a channel for each mux in turn to
> > > fully update the guide, not ideal!
> > 
> > Taylor was considering doing this auto magically, but it shouldn't be
> > needed in the UK.
> 
> Agreed, I didn't think it should be required.
> 
> > > Previously i've been using tv_grab_dvb with great success to get my
> > > guide data (the system has no internet connection), is it possible to
> > > still use this tool until the wrinkles with the internal guide grabber
> > > have been sorted? ... or have the database changes made current
> > > versions of tv_grab_dvb unusable?
> > 
> > It should be ok, but you need to switch of the OTA guide setting and
> > fill in the xmltvid.
> 
> Ok, so it's possible, but a setup hassle.
> 
> Thanks for the response, i'll play about some more and see if I can
> sort this out.
> 
> Steve
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OK, for what it's worth I moved from the Radio TImes grabber on 0.16 to 
over-the-air on 0.17 and it "just worked"

Apart from going from 14 days data to 7 there's no other problem. When I first 
used the new scan feature after dumping the channels it populated the guide 
pretty quickly. I should add that I'm running a Gentoo system so I'm using 
the ebuilds.

As far as I can recall I didn't have to tweak any Myth settings other than 
selecting the on-air EPG option in mythsetup. If you need me to check 
anything on my setup let me know.

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Re: [mythtv-users] DVB EIT/EPG

2005-03-18 Thread Stephen Williams
> Check that you haven't got "on demand" set for your card.

It isn't.
 
> > Secondly, I only appear to be getting guide data for the mux/transport
> > i'm tuned to, even though in the UK (Freeview) the guide data for all
> > muxes are sent on every mux, is this correct / expected?
> 
> Not quite true, some mux's are better than others for EIT data. mux one
> seems to have everything most of the time.

That's what I expected. I left it on live-tv on BBC1 for half an hour,
even then I had no guide data for (example) Channel-5. Flicking over
to channel 5 manually resulted in guide data being built up for that
channel.

> > The result is
> > that i'd have to sit there watching a channel for each mux in turn to
> > fully update the guide, not ideal!
> 
> Taylor was considering doing this auto magically, but it shouldn't be
> needed in the UK.

Agreed, I didn't think it should be required.

> > Previously i've been using tv_grab_dvb with great success to get my
> > guide data (the system has no internet connection), is it possible to
> > still use this tool until the wrinkles with the internal guide grabber
> > have been sorted? ... or have the database changes made current
> > versions of tv_grab_dvb unusable?
> 
> It should be ok, but you need to switch of the OTA guide setting and
> fill in the xmltvid.

Ok, so it's possible, but a setup hassle.

Thanks for the response, i'll play about some more and see if I can
sort this out.

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] DVB EIT/EPG

2005-03-18 Thread John Pullan
First off, this is experimental code, having said that, it works quite
well for me (freeview in the UK)

On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 14:21 +, Stephen Williams wrote:
> I have a system with two DVB-T (uk) receivers which i've just upgraded
> to 0.17 from 0.16. I have a few questions regarding program guide data
> (EPG). I've tried enabing the in-built guide grabber (by uncommenting
> the DVB_USING_EIT setting) but i'm having a few problems.
> 
> Firstly, it only appears to be getting guide data when i'm watching /
> recording and not when the system is idle, is this correct / expected?
> 
Check that you haven't got "on demand" set for your card.

> Secondly, I only appear to be getting guide data for the mux/transport
> i'm tuned to, even though in the UK (Freeview) the guide data for all
> muxes are sent on every mux, is this correct / expected? 

Not quite true, some mux's are better than others for EIT data. mux one
seems to have everything most of the time.

> The result is
> that i'd have to sit there watching a channel for each mux in turn to
> fully update the guide, not ideal!

Taylor was considering doing this auto magically, but it shouldn't be
needed in the UK.

> 
> Previously i've been using tv_grab_dvb with great success to get my
> guide data (the system has no internet connection), is it possible to
> still use this tool until the wrinkles with the internal guide grabber
> have been sorted? ... or have the database changes made current
> versions of tv_grab_dvb unusable?

It should be ok, but you need to switch of the OTA guide setting and
fill in the xmltvid.

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John


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[mythtv-users] DVB EIT/EPG

2005-03-18 Thread Stephen Williams
I have a system with two DVB-T (uk) receivers which i've just upgraded
to 0.17 from 0.16. I have a few questions regarding program guide data
(EPG). I've tried enabing the in-built guide grabber (by uncommenting
the DVB_USING_EIT setting) but i'm having a few problems.

Firstly, it only appears to be getting guide data when i'm watching /
recording and not when the system is idle, is this correct / expected?

Secondly, I only appear to be getting guide data for the mux/transport
i'm tuned to, even though in the UK (Freeview) the guide data for all
muxes are sent on every mux, is this correct / expected? The result is
that i'd have to sit there watching a channel for each mux in turn to
fully update the guide, not ideal!

Previously i've been using tv_grab_dvb with great success to get my
guide data (the system has no internet connection), is it possible to
still use this tool until the wrinkles with the internal guide grabber
have been sorted? ... or have the database changes made current
versions of tv_grab_dvb unusable?

Thank in advance for any help!

Steve
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[mythtv-users] DVB EIT/EPG in Sweden anyone(ComHem)?

2005-03-09 Thread Johan Kihlström
Hello,
Any Swedish DVB-C (ComHem) users out there grabbing EIT/EPG info with 0.17?
Please let me know how, have tried tv_grab_swedb and tv_grab_dvb with 
partial
success. Trying to avoid too much handiwork to get my setup finished.

Thanks in advance!
Johan ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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