Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
On 12/22/05, Johan Venter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I got it all working, then I configured the sql server to not just > > bind on localhost. Grabbed knoppmyth and to my surprise I connected to > > backend and could watch live tv/recorded shows via this quick booted > > frontend on my laptop. > > Well that was easy. It took me a week and a half to get my first Myth > box working, had to edit kernel drivers etc etc etc. I'll write a howto in the new year for all those australians who are interested. Will do it when I get back from Xmas break.. > > > I am totally impressed and can see this setup being a huge advantage. > > Certainly means I will consider purchasing the xmltv feed that is > > available from a company in oz. As long as its upto date and works all > > the time. I am happy to support them. > > I use Development1's feed, which as far as I know is freely available. > There's a grabber available on the net (do a search for tv_grab_au). Got a direct link to the latest version, as I will use it instead once my test account from icetv runs out, however I might just sign up. Although will consider it in the next few weeks, but I guess I will use d1 feed until which time I cant. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
I got it all working, then I configured the sql server to not just bind on localhost. Grabbed knoppmyth and to my surprise I connected to backend and could watch live tv/recorded shows via this quick booted frontend on my laptop. Well that was easy. It took me a week and a half to get my first Myth box working, had to edit kernel drivers etc etc etc. I am totally impressed and can see this setup being a huge advantage. Certainly means I will consider purchasing the xmltv feed that is available from a company in oz. As long as its upto date and works all the time. I am happy to support them. I use Development1's feed, which as far as I know is freely available. There's a grabber available on the net (do a search for tv_grab_au). Regards, Johan. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
On 12/22/05, Johan Venter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Indeed, I install Myth into it's own little sandbox at /usr/local/mythtv > to make it super easy to remove/move/backup etc, and all you have to do > is make sure the lib directory is locatable by ld. Well I installed Ubuntu 5.10 lastnight for about the third time. Then updated it to point to multiverse/universe packages. Got my dvb card going with default installed kernel, then apt-get installed the mythweb and mythtv from externally. I got it all working, then I configured the sql server to not just bind on localhost. Grabbed knoppmyth and to my surprise I connected to backend and could watch live tv/recorded shows via this quick booted frontend on my laptop. So grabbed a precompiled osx binary of mythfrontend 0.18.1 and to my surprise it worked on this also. Even works on my wifes Powerbook with wireless 802.11g (although in the same room as the AP, so over coming days I will test it from various rooms to determine if the throughput is still enough). I am totally impressed and can see this setup being a huge advantage. Certainly means I will consider purchasing the xmltv feed that is available from a company in oz. As long as its upto date and works all the time. I am happy to support them. Now I need to purchase another dvb card and see if i can squeeze into the pci slot next to the existing one, if not I might have to remove the fx5200 from the backend machine and shuffle cards over (so the 2 dvb's have a pci slot between them). My backend is not going to be connected to a tv, so fx5200 is not really needed. I guess I will experiment in the near future. I am due to go away tomorrow, so I guess I wont be playing for another week or so. Excellent work to the developers who produced mythtv, fantastic application. I can't wait to get more involved and learn more about the actually settings I am yet to explore. I'll have to do my bit and produce a howto for my dvb card and ubuntu 5.10 for some of the aussie folks. Merry Xmas to all. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
Stef Coene wrote: I, too, compile from scratch using Debian, and the only caveat I've come across is having to use the prefix "/usr" (As Myth can't find it's libraries if you use the default /usr/local) You can put library path's that are not default in /etd/ld.so.conf In my case, I have /usr/local/lib in it. After running ldconfig, it should work. Indeed, I install Myth into it's own little sandbox at /usr/local/mythtv to make it super easy to remove/move/backup etc, and all you have to do is make sure the lib directory is locatable by ld. Regards, Johan ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
I love debian :) But I run ubuntu on my laptop ;) I have Kubuntu on my laptop with an SVN frontend compiled which I use to watch TV upstairs over wireless while I'm working on other stuff on my main PC :) Actually, Kubuntu standard installation already had many more of Myth's dependencies installed than Debian, but we can just scratch that up to the Kubuntu folks wanting to make *everything* work first go. You can do this: apt-get build-dep mythtv And it will install all needed -dev packages for you you need ... After that you can do apt-get -b source mythtv and it will build mythtv automagically for you. (you need some deb-src in /etc/apt/sources for mythtv of course, mine is for ubuntu: deb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse) That's only if you want to compile 0.18 stable. Need to go the long way (though not much longer) to get latest sources. For the benefit of the original poster: # apt-get install subversion Regards, Johan ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 16:14, Robert Johnston wrote: > On 12/20/05, Michael Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/21/05, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > some people are working on packaging Myth for Deb. > > > > > > I run Deb on my Myth machine, but I compile Myth from scratch (mostly > > > cause I'm running SVN releases). > > > > Do you have many issues compiling from scratch? I am thinking I will > > do this also. I have been a long time debian user, and I think once I > > determine the modules my dvb card uses I will then do a install of > > debian then go the route of compiling SVN releases etc. That way I can > > have more control on the packages on the system. ie bare minimum > > I, too, compile from scratch using Debian, and the only caveat I've > come across is having to use the prefix "/usr" (As Myth can't find > it's libraries if you use the default /usr/local) You can put library path's that are not default in /etd/ld.so.conf In my case, I have /usr/local/lib in it. After running ldconfig, it should work. Stef ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 10:14, Robert Johnston wrote: > On 12/20/05, Michael Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/21/05, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > some people are working on packaging Myth for Deb. > > > > > > I run Deb on my Myth machine, but I compile Myth from scratch (mostly > > > cause I'm running SVN releases). > > > > Do you have many issues compiling from scratch? I am thinking I will > > do this also. I have been a long time debian user, and I think once I > > determine the modules my dvb card uses I will then do a install of > > debian then go the route of compiling SVN releases etc. That way I can > > have more control on the packages on the system. ie bare minimum > > I, too, compile from scratch using Debian, and the only caveat I've > come across is having to use the prefix "/usr" (As Myth can't find > it's libraries if you use the default /usr/local) > > Apart from that, it's dead easy. > -- > Robert "Anaerin" Johnston odd, I haven't noticed that. -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
On 12/20/05, Michael Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/21/05, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > some people are working on packaging Myth for Deb. > > > > I run Deb on my Myth machine, but I compile Myth from scratch (mostly cause > > I'm running SVN releases). > > Do you have many issues compiling from scratch? I am thinking I will > do this also. I have been a long time debian user, and I think once I > determine the modules my dvb card uses I will then do a install of > debian then go the route of compiling SVN releases etc. That way I can > have more control on the packages on the system. ie bare minimum I, too, compile from scratch using Debian, and the only caveat I've come across is having to use the prefix "/usr" (As Myth can't find it's libraries if you use the default /usr/local) Apart from that, it's dead easy. -- Robert "Anaerin" Johnston ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 00:05, Michael Fox wrote: > On 12/21/05, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > some people are working on packaging Myth for Deb. > > > > I run Deb on my Myth machine, but I compile Myth from scratch (mostly > > cause I'm running SVN releases). > > Do you have many issues compiling from scratch? I am thinking I will > do this also. I have been a long time debian user, and I think once I > determine the modules my dvb card uses I will then do a install of > debian then go the route of compiling SVN releases etc. That way I can > have more control on the packages on the system. ie bare minimum nope, runs perfectly, well as perfectly as one can hope for SVN to run. Its easy too, at first I just kept trying to compile it, find I'm missing a header, get the appropriate dev package, move on... -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 07:30, Johan Venter wrote: > Michael Fox wrote: > > On 12/21/05, Jake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>i'm also running svn on a debian box. once you have all the > >>dependencies figured out it is really very straight forward to compile > >>myth. > > > > Any chance you could export you dpkg package list of installed > > packages. Dont recall the command off the top of my head. > > > > Also are you running unstable? if not, what release > > I run unstable, and it's pretty easy working out Myth's dependencies > when compiling from scratch: a) install the -dev libraries of all the > dependencies listed in the README and b) just keep installing things > until a make completes successfully :) I love debian :) But I run ubuntu on my laptop ;) You can do this: apt-get build-dep mythtv And it will install all needed -dev packages for you you need ... After that you can do apt-get -b source mythtv and it will build mythtv automagically for you. (you need some deb-src in /etc/apt/sources for mythtv of course, mine is for ubuntu: deb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse) Stef ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
Michael Fox wrote: On 12/21/05, Jake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i'm also running svn on a debian box. once you have all the dependencies figured out it is really very straight forward to compile myth. Any chance you could export you dpkg package list of installed packages. Dont recall the command off the top of my head. Also are you running unstable? if not, what release I run unstable, and it's pretty easy working out Myth's dependencies when compiling from scratch: a) install the -dev libraries of all the dependencies listed in the README and b) just keep installing things until a make completes successfully :) Regards, Johan. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
On 12/21/05, Jake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i'm also running svn on a debian box. once you have all the > dependencies figured out it is really very straight forward to compile > myth. Any chance you could export you dpkg package list of installed packages. Dont recall the command off the top of my head. Also are you running unstable? if not, what release ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
> Do you have many issues compiling from scratch? I am thinking I will > do this also. I have been a long time debian user, and I think once I > determine the modules my dvb card uses I will then do a install of > debian then go the route of compiling SVN releases etc. That way I can > have more control on the packages on the system. ie bare minimum i'm also running svn on a debian box. once you have all the dependencies figured out it is really very straight forward to compile myth. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
On 12/21/05, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > some people are working on packaging Myth for Deb. > > I run Deb on my Myth machine, but I compile Myth from scratch (mostly cause > I'm running SVN releases). Do you have many issues compiling from scratch? I am thinking I will do this also. I have been a long time debian user, and I think once I determine the modules my dvb card uses I will then do a install of debian then go the route of compiling SVN releases etc. That way I can have more control on the packages on the system. ie bare minimum ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 12:17, Marcus wrote: > Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 9:10:29 AM, you wrote: > >There are some > > Casey> issues with the packages but, they are in the process > Casey> of being resolved (maintianership, > Casey> module-frontend/backend version mismatch). > Casey> Probably should have asked what debian you're running... > > I'm running Debian unstable, originally installed from Knoppix, but since > has been dist-upgraded. Does anybody know what the current status is for > Debian? > apt-get mythtv showed the package conflicts mentioned above. > > I don't mind installing an older version as long it's stable. At the moment > I`m just having problems finding packages which work together. > > Thanks, > > Marcus some people are working on packaging Myth for Deb. I run Deb on my Myth machine, but I compile Myth from scratch (mostly cause I'm running SVN releases). -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
On 12/20/05, Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 9:10:29 AM, you wrote:>There are someCasey> issues with the packages but, they are in the processCasey> of being resolved (maintianership,Casey> module-frontend/backend version mismatch). Casey> Probably should have asked what debian you're running...I'm running Debian unstable, originally installed from Knoppix, but since has been dist-upgraded.Does anybody know what the current status is for Debian? apt-get mythtv showed the package conflicts mentioned above.I don't mind installing an older version as long it's stable. At the moment I`m just having problems finding packages which work together. If you have the time to dedicate to installing gentoo, you're guaranteed to have packages that work together, since they are built from source. Works great for a desktop and myth environment together. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
Wednesday, December 7, 2005, 9:10:29 AM, you wrote: >There are some Casey> issues with the packages but, they are in the process Casey> of being resolved (maintianership, Casey> module-frontend/backend version mismatch). Casey> Probably should have asked what debian you're running... I'm running Debian unstable, originally installed from Knoppix, but since has been dist-upgraded. Does anybody know what the current status is for Debian? apt-get mythtv showed the package conflicts mentioned above. I don't mind installing an older version as long it's stable. At the moment I`m just having problems finding packages which work together. Thanks, Marcus ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
-quote- I want myth to co-exist on my regular desktop PC. I'm using Debian and the MythTV packages are currently not maintained. I don't know how to tweak the source or makefiles to compile, so is KnoppMyth my best options? -quote- Debian or Ubuntu are your best option. There are some issues with the packages but, they are in the process of being resolved (maintianership, module-frontend/backend version mismatch). 18.1 is very stable and works with both DVB and analog very well. Probably should have asked what debian you're running... ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
On 12/6/05, Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm new to MythTV. If I use KnoppMyth do I only need a free partition? Can I specify which partition to install to?Reading the docs it seemed like it would automatically install to hda1.I want myth to co-exist on my regular desktop PC. I'm using Debian and the MythTV packages are currently not maintained. I don't know how to tweak the source or makefiles to compile, so is KnoppMyth my best options?I suggest installing them together in one operating system - if you try to put Debian on one partition and KnoppMyth on another, you'll have to reboot to go back and forth still (or some kind of weird virtual machine thing, not worth it IMO). If you have a free partition anyway, give knoppmyth a try to get your feet wet if you want, but I think you'll eventually want to do one of:A). Dedicate a seperate machine to myth, run whatever distro you like (knoppix, etc) B). Get myth installed in your debian system so you can use both at onceC). Reinstall to a different distro so you can get myth to work (*cough* gentoo *cough*)I think you should be able to get it to work with debian if you look around for a writeup of the install. Can't be much harder than apt-get mythtv, right? - Jeff ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
Marcus wrote: > I'm new to MythTV. If I use KnoppMyth do I only need a free partition? Can I > specify which partition to install to? > Reading the docs it seemed like it would automatically install to hda1. > Yes, it will do an auto install _if_ you select auto install. You can do a manual install and install to any partition you want. > I want myth to co-exist on my regular desktop PC. Define co-exist. This can mean numerous things. > I'm using Debian and the MythTV packages are currently not maintained. I > don't know how to tweak the source or makefiles to compile, so is KnoppMyth > my best options? > There is no need to tweak any source or makefiles to compile MythTV. Robert has done an excellent job with the MythTV docs, highly suggest you read it. > Thanks, > > Marcus > Regards, Cecil ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
Marcus wrote: I'm new to MythTV. If I use KnoppMyth do I only need a free partition? Can I specify which partition to install to? Reading the docs it seemed like it would automatically install to hda1. I want myth to co-exist on my regular desktop PC. I'm using Debian and the MythTV packages are currently not maintained. I don't know how to tweak the source or makefiles to compile, so is KnoppMyth my best options? Thanks, Marcus The best way for myth to 'coexist' with a desktop PC is for it to be on a second machine with NFS drives mapped between them and using a remote frontend, or even just mythweb. Theoretically they can coexist, and if you really want to try, using a distribution that has packages for myth (if you don't want to compile them yourself). I used Mandriva at one point, and Fedora is popular. I now have Mandriva for my desktop, and a second smaller PC runs Knoppmyth. It works well this way. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Easiest installation?
I'm new to MythTV. If I use KnoppMyth do I only need a free partition? Can I specify which partition to install to? Reading the docs it seemed like it would automatically install to hda1. I want myth to co-exist on my regular desktop PC. I'm using Debian and the MythTV packages are currently not maintained. I don't know how to tweak the source or makefiles to compile, so is KnoppMyth my best options? Thanks, Marcus ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
