Re: [mythtv-users] Freqid and Sky Digital
On 7/8/05, Darren Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ant Daniel > > Sent: 08 July 2005 14:23 > > To: Discussion about mythtv > > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Freqid and Sky Digital > > > > Fro what I understand of what you saying, your missing the bit about > > setting up an external channel changer. > > > > Without the channel changer script, the tunner will attempt to change > > by returning the coax input, as you've got a s-video input, from and > > external box, you need to setup myth to call a channel change script, > > this also requires a blaster (ir/rf) to actually change the box (i.e. > > send the infrared signal for the channel) > > > > Additionally, you will want mythfilldatabase to populate your scehdule > > from Radio Times, or you'll be missing the advantages of Myth. > > > > Ant. > > I've already got mythfilldatabase populating the schedule from RT, with the > correct channel numbers and even some icons. > > I'm not too fussed about MythTV actually changing the channel at the moment > because I know this will involve scripts and an IR blaster. I'm more > concerned by the fact that when I type in the channel number, or press up or > down on the keyboard - it just pauses and then shows me the same on-screen > information. > > I don't know if I'm making much sense or not - basically since the feed from > the Sky Digital box is "just a video feed" Myth will have no way of knowing > what channel, frequency or whatever the Sky box will be running. I do not > need Myth or my PVR card to do any tuning at all, the coax connection is not > even used - I just want the OSD and TV guide to reflect the change in > channel (in other words, if I type in 301 - I want it to switch to Sky > Sports 1 on the OSN and TV guide, irrespective of whats being shown on the > screen (as that's a separate configuration issue imo). Perhaps you need to use a dummy script that MythTV can innocently run when trying to change channel. If the channel change script value is populated with a script the exists, Myth will not try to tune automatically to the freqid. I think that if there is no script being called, the channel change will fail, and myth will remain on the same channel it was on before. If Myth thinks the channel change script returned OK, it will probably then update the OSD with the new channel info. Does browse mode work though when watching the feed from the Sky box? I.e. just getting the different channel info but not trying to actually change channel? > > Hope I'm being clear - I know it's a slightly confusing scenario. It would > probably be easier if I was using a DVB card, with the Sky signal being fed > directly into the card in the PC - but then I would only be able to view > Free-to-Air channels (all premium Sky channels are encrypted and require the > STB to decrypt). Only if the DVB card was a DVB-S card probably. I'm not sure if the Sky box would provide a DVB-T version on the channels and not DVB-S as it's coming from satellite and not OTA. Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Freqid and Sky Digital
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ant Daniel > Sent: 08 July 2005 14:23 > To: Discussion about mythtv > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Freqid and Sky Digital > > On 7/8/05, Darren Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ant Daniel > > > Sent: 08 July 2005 11:29 > > > To: Discussion about mythtv > > > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Freqid and Sky Digital > > > > > > On 7/8/05, Darren Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Hoping someone out there can help me. > > > > > > > > I've got MythTV receiving input from a Sky Digital STB, via > > > a Hauppauge > > > > PVR-350. The signal is coming via S-video into the S-video > > > IN on my PVR350. > > > > Everything appears to be working correctly except for one > > > small problem - > > > > changing channels. > > > > > > > > Running tv_grab_uk_rt does not populate any freqids in the > > > database (wait, I > > > > know you're going to say mythfilldatabase --manual) but in > > > actuality I don't > > > > need Myth/ivtv or whatever to "tune" to the selected > > > station, it simply > > > > needs to send 3 numbers to the box and the box changes it. > > > > > > > > Right now when I press the arrow keys to go up or down a > > > channel it just > > > > pauses for a while and then comes back with the same > > > channel information. I > > > > understand from the debugging output that this is because > > > there are missing > > > > freqids from the "europe-west" freqtable I am using (e.g. > > > SE11, E8, etc). > > > > > > > > If I run "ptune.pl -f pal-europe-west --list-channels" I > > > get a list of known > > > > frequency IDs. I *could* use these freqids to populate > the database > > > > manually, but the problem there then is that there are only > > > 109 known > > > > freqids, and I have - from memory - at least 160 channels > > > in the database. > > > > > > > > All I basically want Myth to do when I type in a channel > > > number, or press > > > > up/down on the cursor keys is to adjust the program > guide and OSD > > > > accordingly. I don't need it to try and *tune* anything, > > > since ultimately I > > > > will have to get it set up so it sends the necessary > > > numbers down an IR > > > > "Redeye" or similar bit of kit to change it. > > > > > > > > Any ideas? I can't believe I'm the first person to hit > > > this problem, and > > > > yet I couldn't find any specific info anywhere in the archives. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Darren > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > mythtv-users mailing list > > > > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > > > > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You need to set the freqid to the channel number and use > an external > > > channel change program, which will need an ir or rf > blaster, to get > > > the sky box to change the channel. You also want the > chanid to be set > > > to the same as freqid. > > > > > > I think I saw an sql script on the list a while back which had the > > > channels & freqid's set up. > > > > > > Ant. > > > ___ > > > mythtv-users mailing list > > > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > > > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > > Hi Ant, > > > > Thanks for that info. > > > > I did try doing that originally, but when I had the freqid > the same as the > > channum (e.g. 106 for Sky One) whenever I tried pressing > up/down on the > > cursor keys, or indeed any channel navigation I just got a load of > > CheckChannel() error messages saying things like "No such > channel 'E9'", > > etc. > > > > Obviously it's looking for fre
Re: [mythtv-users] Freqid and Sky Digital
On 7/8/05, Darren Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ant Daniel > > Sent: 08 July 2005 11:29 > > To: Discussion about mythtv > > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Freqid and Sky Digital > > > > On 7/8/05, Darren Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Hoping someone out there can help me. > > > > > > I've got MythTV receiving input from a Sky Digital STB, via > > a Hauppauge > > > PVR-350. The signal is coming via S-video into the S-video > > IN on my PVR350. > > > Everything appears to be working correctly except for one > > small problem - > > > changing channels. > > > > > > Running tv_grab_uk_rt does not populate any freqids in the > > database (wait, I > > > know you're going to say mythfilldatabase --manual) but in > > actuality I don't > > > need Myth/ivtv or whatever to "tune" to the selected > > station, it simply > > > needs to send 3 numbers to the box and the box changes it. > > > > > > Right now when I press the arrow keys to go up or down a > > channel it just > > > pauses for a while and then comes back with the same > > channel information. I > > > understand from the debugging output that this is because > > there are missing > > > freqids from the "europe-west" freqtable I am using (e.g. > > SE11, E8, etc). > > > > > > If I run "ptune.pl -f pal-europe-west --list-channels" I > > get a list of known > > > frequency IDs. I *could* use these freqids to populate the database > > > manually, but the problem there then is that there are only > > 109 known > > > freqids, and I have - from memory - at least 160 channels > > in the database. > > > > > > All I basically want Myth to do when I type in a channel > > number, or press > > > up/down on the cursor keys is to adjust the program guide and OSD > > > accordingly. I don't need it to try and *tune* anything, > > since ultimately I > > > will have to get it set up so it sends the necessary > > numbers down an IR > > > "Redeye" or similar bit of kit to change it. > > > > > > Any ideas? I can't believe I'm the first person to hit > > this problem, and > > > yet I couldn't find any specific info anywhere in the archives. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Darren > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > mythtv-users mailing list > > > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > > > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > You need to set the freqid to the channel number and use an external > > channel change program, which will need an ir or rf blaster, to get > > the sky box to change the channel. You also want the chanid to be set > > to the same as freqid. > > > > I think I saw an sql script on the list a while back which had the > > channels & freqid's set up. > > > > Ant. > > ___ > > mythtv-users mailing list > > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > Hi Ant, > > Thanks for that info. > > I did try doing that originally, but when I had the freqid the same as the > channum (e.g. 106 for Sky One) whenever I tried pressing up/down on the > cursor keys, or indeed any channel navigation I just got a load of > CheckChannel() error messages saying things like "No such channel 'E9'", > etc. > > Obviously it's looking for frequencies in the "europe-west" frequency table > as this was how I set it up originally, but how can I get it to just accept > the channel numbers as freqids (e.g. 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 124, 127, > etc) without complaining about missing channels? > > Thanks, > > Darren > > Fro what I understand of what you saying, your missing the bit about setting up an external channel changer. Without the channel changer script, the tunner will attempt to change by returning the coax input, as you've got a s-video input, from and external box, you need to setup myth to call a channel change script, this also requires a blaster (ir/rf) to actually change the box (i.e. send the infrared signal for the channel) Additionally, you will want mythfilldatabase to populate your scehdule from Radio Times, or you'll be missing the advantages of Myth. Ant. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Freqid and Sky Digital
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ant Daniel > Sent: 08 July 2005 11:29 > To: Discussion about mythtv > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Freqid and Sky Digital > > On 7/8/05, Darren Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Hoping someone out there can help me. > > > > I've got MythTV receiving input from a Sky Digital STB, via > a Hauppauge > > PVR-350. The signal is coming via S-video into the S-video > IN on my PVR350. > > Everything appears to be working correctly except for one > small problem - > > changing channels. > > > > Running tv_grab_uk_rt does not populate any freqids in the > database (wait, I > > know you're going to say mythfilldatabase --manual) but in > actuality I don't > > need Myth/ivtv or whatever to "tune" to the selected > station, it simply > > needs to send 3 numbers to the box and the box changes it. > > > > Right now when I press the arrow keys to go up or down a > channel it just > > pauses for a while and then comes back with the same > channel information. I > > understand from the debugging output that this is because > there are missing > > freqids from the "europe-west" freqtable I am using (e.g. > SE11, E8, etc). > > > > If I run "ptune.pl -f pal-europe-west --list-channels" I > get a list of known > > frequency IDs. I *could* use these freqids to populate the database > > manually, but the problem there then is that there are only > 109 known > > freqids, and I have - from memory - at least 160 channels > in the database. > > > > All I basically want Myth to do when I type in a channel > number, or press > > up/down on the cursor keys is to adjust the program guide and OSD > > accordingly. I don't need it to try and *tune* anything, > since ultimately I > > will have to get it set up so it sends the necessary > numbers down an IR > > "Redeye" or similar bit of kit to change it. > > > > Any ideas? I can't believe I'm the first person to hit > this problem, and > > yet I couldn't find any specific info anywhere in the archives. > > > > Regards, > > > > Darren > > > > > > > > ___ > > mythtv-users mailing list > > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > > > > > > You need to set the freqid to the channel number and use an external > channel change program, which will need an ir or rf blaster, to get > the sky box to change the channel. You also want the chanid to be set > to the same as freqid. > > I think I saw an sql script on the list a while back which had the > channels & freqid's set up. > > Ant. > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users Hi Ant, Thanks for that info. I did try doing that originally, but when I had the freqid the same as the channum (e.g. 106 for Sky One) whenever I tried pressing up/down on the cursor keys, or indeed any channel navigation I just got a load of CheckChannel() error messages saying things like "No such channel 'E9'", etc. Obviously it's looking for frequencies in the "europe-west" frequency table as this was how I set it up originally, but how can I get it to just accept the channel numbers as freqids (e.g. 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 124, 127, etc) without complaining about missing channels? Thanks, Darren ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Freqid and Sky Digital
On 7/8/05, Darren Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Hoping someone out there can help me. > > I've got MythTV receiving input from a Sky Digital STB, via a Hauppauge > PVR-350. The signal is coming via S-video into the S-video IN on my PVR350. > Everything appears to be working correctly except for one small problem - > changing channels. > > Running tv_grab_uk_rt does not populate any freqids in the database (wait, I > know you're going to say mythfilldatabase --manual) but in actuality I don't > need Myth/ivtv or whatever to "tune" to the selected station, it simply > needs to send 3 numbers to the box and the box changes it. > > Right now when I press the arrow keys to go up or down a channel it just > pauses for a while and then comes back with the same channel information. I > understand from the debugging output that this is because there are missing > freqids from the "europe-west" freqtable I am using (e.g. SE11, E8, etc). > > If I run "ptune.pl -f pal-europe-west --list-channels" I get a list of known > frequency IDs. I *could* use these freqids to populate the database > manually, but the problem there then is that there are only 109 known > freqids, and I have - from memory - at least 160 channels in the database. > > All I basically want Myth to do when I type in a channel number, or press > up/down on the cursor keys is to adjust the program guide and OSD > accordingly. I don't need it to try and *tune* anything, since ultimately I > will have to get it set up so it sends the necessary numbers down an IR > "Redeye" or similar bit of kit to change it. > > Any ideas? I can't believe I'm the first person to hit this problem, and > yet I couldn't find any specific info anywhere in the archives. > > Regards, > > Darren > > > > ___ > mythtv-users mailing list > mythtv-users@mythtv.org > http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users > > > You need to set the freqid to the channel number and use an external channel change program, which will need an ir or rf blaster, to get the sky box to change the channel. You also want the chanid to be set to the same as freqid. I think I saw an sql script on the list a while back which had the channels & freqid's set up. Ant. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Freqid and Sky Digital
Hi, Hoping someone out there can help me. I've got MythTV receiving input from a Sky Digital STB, via a Hauppauge PVR-350. The signal is coming via S-video into the S-video IN on my PVR350. Everything appears to be working correctly except for one small problem - changing channels. Running tv_grab_uk_rt does not populate any freqids in the database (wait, I know you're going to say mythfilldatabase --manual) but in actuality I don't need Myth/ivtv or whatever to "tune" to the selected station, it simply needs to send 3 numbers to the box and the box changes it. Right now when I press the arrow keys to go up or down a channel it just pauses for a while and then comes back with the same channel information. I understand from the debugging output that this is because there are missing freqids from the "europe-west" freqtable I am using (e.g. SE11, E8, etc). If I run "ptune.pl -f pal-europe-west --list-channels" I get a list of known frequency IDs. I *could* use these freqids to populate the database manually, but the problem there then is that there are only 109 known freqids, and I have - from memory - at least 160 channels in the database. All I basically want Myth to do when I type in a channel number, or press up/down on the cursor keys is to adjust the program guide and OSD accordingly. I don't need it to try and *tune* anything, since ultimately I will have to get it set up so it sends the necessary numbers down an IR "Redeye" or similar bit of kit to change it. Any ideas? I can't believe I'm the first person to hit this problem, and yet I couldn't find any specific info anywhere in the archives. Regards, Darren ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
