[mythtv-users] Frontend with no window manager?

2005-10-13 Thread Peter Loron
Question for the hive mind: can you run a front-end with no window
manager? I've got an Xbox frontend, and it takes bloody forever to start
up Xebian (1.1.1 in my case) and then launch Myth. Doing things in Myth
is sloow, especially when it needs to spawn mplayer to watch a
video, etc. I'm assuming most of that slowness is releated to the lack
of RAM and the copious amounts of swapping that are consequently going on.

Can one run the frontend with no WM to save RAM? If so, can somebody
point me to the step-by -step? I searched on gossamer, but was unable to
come up with any definitive answers.

Thanks.

-Pete
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Re: [mythtv-users] Frontend with no window manager?

2005-10-13 Thread Josh Burks
On 10/13/05, Peter Loron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Question for the hive mind: can you run a front-end with no window
 manager? I've got an Xbox frontend, and it takes bloody forever to start
 up Xebian (1.1.1 in my case) and then launch Myth. Doing things in Myth
 is sloow, especially when it needs to spawn mplayer to watch a
 video, etc. I'm assuming most of that slowness is releated to the lack
 of RAM and the copious amounts of swapping that are consequently going on.

 Can one run the frontend with no WM to save RAM? If so, can somebody
 point me to the step-by -step? I searched on gossamer, but was unable to
 come up with any definitive answers.

I'm not that familiar with Xebian, so I don't know what's possible.
What I'd do is keep a window manager (the consensus seems that not
have one is a bigger problem due to focus issues) and try out some
lightweight WM's. I suggest ratpoison, it doesn't get any lighter than
that.

Josh
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Re: [mythtv-users] Frontend with no window manager?

2005-10-13 Thread Joe Votour
Search gossamer again, and you'll find that while you
can run a frontend without a window manager, you'll
may run into problems.

People who have run without window managers have
reported focus issues - windows not being properly
layered, so the wrong window is out in front.  So,
your MPlayer window might be on top, it might not be.

One thing that you could try is to compile ratpoison
for the XBox - it's a very small window manager, so it
shouldn't take up much in the way of resources.

-- Joe

--- Peter Loron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Question for the hive mind: can you run a front-end
 with no window
 manager? I've got an Xbox frontend, and it takes
 bloody forever to start
 up Xebian (1.1.1 in my case) and then launch Myth.
 Doing things in Myth
 is sloow, especially when it needs to spawn
 mplayer to watch a
 video, etc. I'm assuming most of that slowness is
 releated to the lack
 of RAM and the copious amounts of swapping that are
 consequently going on.
 
 Can one run the frontend with no WM to save RAM? If
 so, can somebody
 point me to the step-by -step? I searched on
 gossamer, but was unable to
 come up with any definitive answers.
 
 Thanks.
 
 -Pete
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