Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
Done, I've added a scroller as well as shrunk down the editmode bar as I agree it's just too big. I've also moved the time display in a few pixels to hopefully not have it get chopped off for those of you seeing that. Thanks for that. I've downloaded it and un-tared it and restarted mythfrontend. Unfortunately I'm still losing the m off am and pm. I've attached a screenshot - not sure if it will make it through though. Perhaps I can send it direct to you if not so you can see what I mean? Regards, Phill screenshot-5948.png Description: PNG image ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
pm. I've attached a screenshot - not sure if it will make it through though. Perhaps I can send it direct to you if not so you can see what I mean? Actually your screenshot came back as all blue. To take a screenshot during video playback you need to tell myth to not use XV for playback for that particular session first :) To do that you have to close myth frontend and then start it like this: NO_XV=1 mythfrontend (minus the quotes) the playback will take more CPU but you will be able to take screenshots of it. Feel free to email the images directly to me or post them somewhere andpass me a URL to avoid chewing up too much bw and diskspace on the list :) Thanks, ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
display. Works with recordings, but displays the token for live tv. Not sure if there's a way around this, but wanted to mention it. I'll take a look at that. Haven't looked at this one yet, but I'll check it out tonight. (no livetv while at work using my vmware dev session) :) me the trouble of adding it in the event of upgrades. :) Doh! I forgot to add the scroller when I was adding in the cid and alert containers. I'll add something in for sure :) Done, I've added a scroller as well as shrunk down the editmode bar as I agree it's just too big. I've also moved the time display in a few pixels to hopefully not have it get chopped off for those of you seeing that. Screenshot of the scroller in action: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgrayosd19.jpg And the new editbar: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/newgrayosd18.jpg As usual a new version is available here: http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/Gray-OSD-20051221-01.tgz ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
On Dec 21, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Greg Estabrooks wrote: display. Works with recordings, but displays the token for live tv. Not sure if there's a way around this, but wanted to mention it. I'll take a look at that. Haven't looked at this one yet, but I'll check it out tonight. (no livetv while at work using my vmware dev session) :) I changed it to %STARTTIME% - %ENDTIME% %STARTDATE% and it gave me what I wanted in both recordings and Live TV. I think those are the tokens I used, anyway. I'm at work and can't check it at the moment, but I guessed when I changed it as much as I'm guessing now so both guesses are probably equal. :) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
couple comments and some ideas I have for how I'd like it to look (so obviously feel free to selectively ignore them...) Not a problem. I have no problem saying No or Do it yourself :) The position overlay is really big, theres a lot of wasted space above and below the bar. I disagree. When viewed on a TV, at a distance I think it is very easy to read and cramming it all together would make that much harder. If I gotta squint it's bad :) Plus the status container is used by myth for any status display so the String could be Paused Play Position, Adjust Time Stretch Adjust Volume etc, and the Time position could be something like Brightness 50%. All of which means that it has to be large enough to accomodate a variety of possible items. base. Have the start time of the show on the left, the end time on the right, and the progress bar in the center, all on one line. Above this place the Sounds like you want to clone the Tivo Status bar :) I have no plans to do that for the regular position bar, but I do prefer the slimmer look for edit mode so I might look at that. clock right justified and the current playback status left justified. Change Position to Play. Possibly a playback status logo would be nice to have before the word. I have no control over this. The OSD is passed a status string and that is what is displayed. There is no logic to the OSD themes to allow for if this then display that so all we can do is display what is sent or ignore it altogether. If you do decide to keep the different overlay shape: The short info is center justified, the long info is left justified. My vote is to see the short info left justified as well. I gotta say I've looked at this several times (and again just now) and I completely prefer the small window as centered text. I'll have to think about that one. Your are exiting this recording Overlay Possible for it to display the show information as well? Title, channel, etc? Honestly I have never seen this as I disabled that popup years ago. I'll reenable it and have a look. I suspect it's not an option however. That popup is passed a message of variable size which can be small or large so we have to make sure there is enough room for it, plus a couple of lines for the options a user gets to pick from. Ok, I enabled that popup and none of that info is available for display by the OSD in that particular container. As well this same container is used during edit mode which is why I had to make it solid black otherwise it would look really ugly as a semi transparent window with text overlaid on the other semi transparent editbar. 1. The font for the clock is different than the regular font. Or... Is the font for the clock different? It looks to be a different font... All text in this theme uses 3 variations of the DejaVuSans font. (Italics, Bold, Regular) The variation between them is the colour of the text and of course the size for each particular item. 2. Some of the fonts have the bottom 10% or so cut off. The channel number in the small info display and the bottom line of the description in the large Any chance you can get me a screenshot of that ? What resolution? How about Aspect ratio? 4:3 or 16:9? 3. The clock in the position and short info is too close to the right edge (my DPI is running at 100dpi). I agree, I'll bump it to the left a few pixels 4. The start time for a show in live tv in the large info screen shows the time you started watching and not the actual program start time. Another case of that being what we have to work with. Only a limited set of values are available to each of the OSD containers . I'll have to do some experimenting. I never use LiveTV so I hadn't seen that. I'm still partial to how the TiVo puts the position bar at the bottom of the screen, many years of TiVo use... I don't know how others feel, but my vote Not gonna happen. But obviously you can edit yours to your hearts content :) I've used isthmus which had it's position bar at the bottom for a long time and disliked the location as it was often covering up something I wanted to see. Sure I could hide the OSD while still paused but to me it makes more sense to move it to an area of the screen that rarely contains anything of interest. Almost all of the video content really happens on the lower 2/3 of a screen and the top is often just ceilings and sky. Also it is possible to have multiple containers appear on the screen at the same time and I wanted to do my best to avoid overlaps for the most part. As usual, Great work, like I said before a great match for the Grayhem theme, thanks for all your hard work! Thanks, actually it was fun to work on and learn more about how myth handles it's themes. I had rarely dug around that portion of the code but found myself constantly referring to the myth source to find out just what values were available and what I could do in
Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
On Monday 19 December 2005 09:52, Greg Estabrooks wrote: couple comments and some ideas I have for how I'd like it to look (so obviously feel free to selectively ignore them...) Not a problem. I have no problem saying No or Do it yourself :) The position overlay is really big, theres a lot of wasted space above and below the bar. I disagree. When viewed on a TV, at a distance I think it is very easy to read and cramming it all together would make that much harder. If I gotta squint it's bad :) Plus the status container is used by myth for any status display so the String could be Paused Play Position, Adjust Time Stretch Adjust Volume etc, and the Time position could be something like Brightness 50%. ah, and it all uses the same box... All of which means that it has to be large enough to accomodate a variety of possible items. base. Have the start time of the show on the left, the end time on the right, and the progress bar in the center, all on one line. Above this place the Sounds like you want to clone the Tivo Status bar :) I have no plans to do that for the regular position bar, but I do prefer the slimmer look for edit mode so I might look at that. Yes and no... It just makes more sense to me visually to keep all three overlay windows more or less the same. You could keep the current three-line position format, but I do think it would look more unified if all three overlays used the long-info's overlay style. clock right justified and the current playback status left justified. Change Position to Play. Possibly a playback status logo would be nice to have before the word. I have no control over this. The OSD is passed a status string and that is what is displayed. There is no logic to the OSD themes to allow for if this then display that so all we can do is display what is sent or ignore it altogether. gotcha, once 0.19 settles out might be time to convince the devs to create a more flexible OSD. If you do decide to keep the different overlay shape: The short info is center justified, the long info is left justified. My vote is to see the short info left justified as well. I gotta say I've looked at this several times (and again just now) and I completely prefer the small window as centered text. I'll have to think about that one. True, I don't know what it would look like left justified (if you have a screen cap I'd love to see it, I might end up agreeing with you!). Your are exiting this recording Overlay Possible for it to display the show information as well? Title, channel, etc? Honestly I have never seen this as I disabled that popup years ago. I'll reenable it and have a look. I suspect it's not an option however. That popup is passed a message of variable size which can be small or large so we have to make sure there is enough room for it, plus a couple of lines for the options a user gets to pick from. Ok, I enabled that popup and none of that info is available for display by the OSD in that particular container. As well this same container is used during edit mode which is why I had to make it solid black otherwise it would look really ugly as a semi transparent window with text overlaid on the other semi transparent editbar. again, more OSD overlay flexibility is needed... thanks for looking into it. 1. The font for the clock is different than the regular font. Or... Is the font for the clock different? It looks to be a different font... All text in this theme uses 3 variations of the DejaVuSans font. (Italics, Bold, Regular) The variation between them is the colour of the text and of course the size for each particular item. ok, so maybe its something else throwing off my eyes. actually, now that i look at it with the current time it does look like the same font... 2. Some of the fonts have the bottom 10% or so cut off. The channel number in the small info display and the bottom line of the description in the large Any chance you can get me a screenshot of that ? What resolution? How about Aspect ratio? 4:3 or 16:9? I'm running at 1280x720 for HDTV. I see it in both 4:3 and 16:9 content (I have a 4:3 tv that I switch anamorphic on for HD content and off for 4:3 content). It looks like my HD content might be worse, but its about the same. So far its just the two instances I mentioned, haven't seen the issue anywhere else.(and by bottom line I mean the third line for the description in the long info). 3. The clock in the position and short info is too close to the right edge (my DPI is running at 100dpi). I agree, I'll bump it to the left a few pixels 4. The start time for a show in live tv in the large info screen shows the time you started watching and not the actual program start time. Another case of that being what we have to work with. Only a limited set of values are available to each of the OSD containers . I'll have to do some
Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
thanks for the info Greg. I'lll wait for tonights release (with much anticipation, I find it a good match for the Grayhem theme). Here it is, main changes are the new small program info which is only something that people running SVN would notice and I've adding in some editmode stuff. http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/Gray-OSD-20051218-01.tgz Thanks Greg. One small piece of feedback from me is that when yuo press into the box doesn't seem big wide enough to display all the text. It displays the time and where you are in the recording but the am/pm part of the time seems to get cut off at the a or p without showing the m. I'm running 0.18.1 from ATRPMs, on FC3 and I am running at 100 dpi. Regards, Phill ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
On Dec 19, 2005, at 9:52 AM, Greg Estabrooks wrote: As usual, Great work, like I said before a great match for the Grayhem theme, thanks for all your hard work! Thanks, actually it was fun to work on and learn more about how myth handles it's themes. I had rarely dug around that portion of the code but found myself constantly referring to the myth source to find out just what values were available and what I could do in the theme with things like fonts and such. I recently switched to this OSD since it fits nicely on my TV (others are cut off way too much when using PVR-350's TV-out) and I agree it looks great (especially with Grayhem that I also recently switched to). I noticed an issue this morning with the new date/time in the info display. Works with recordings, but displays the token for live tv. Not sure if there's a way around this, but wanted to mention it. Also, if you could add scrolling text to it by default, it would save me the trouble of adding it in the event of upgrades. :) container name=news_scroller priority=20 box name=background area0,434,640,40/area /box textarea name=text_scroll area0,440,640,40/area fontsettings/font scrolleryes/scroller scrollmovement-3,0/scrollmovement /textarea /container ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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Also, if you could add scrolling text to it by default, it would save me the trouble of adding it in the event of upgrades. :) container name=news_scroller priority=20 box name=background area0,434,640,40/area /box textarea name=text_scroll area0,440,640,40/area fontsettings/font scrolleryes/scroller scrollmovement-3,0/scrollmovement /textarea /container Out of interest, does that mean that the default Gray-OSD won't work with MythTVOSD unless you add this in? Regards, Phill ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
On Dec 19, 2005, at 6:43 PM, Phill Edwards wrote: Also, if you could add scrolling text to it by default, it would save me the trouble of adding it in the event of upgrades. :) container name=news_scroller priority=20 box name=background area0,434,640,40/area /box textarea name=text_scroll area0,440,640,40/area fontsettings/font scrolleryes/scroller scrollmovement-3,0/scrollmovement /textarea /container Out of interest, does that mean that the default Gray-OSD won't work with MythTVOSD unless you add this in? You can use mythtvosd without this if you use alert or cid, but in order to use scroller, you need a scroller container like the one above. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
I noticed an issue this morning with the new date/time in the info display. Works with recordings, but displays the token for live tv. Not sure if there's a way around this, but wanted to mention it. I'll take a look at that. Also, if you could add scrolling text to it by default, it would save me the trouble of adding it in the event of upgrades. :) Doh! I forgot to add the scroller when I was adding in the cid and alert containers. I'll add something in for sure :) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
I downloaded the Deja Vera fonts but can't quite figure out how to get them to show up as usable within Myth. anyone care to clue me in? -- thanks! Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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I downloaded the Deja Vera fonts but can't quite figure out how to get them to They are included in the OSD in the directory with the OSD definition and other images. The OSD is configured to use them so you don't need to setup anything in Myth. Another version of Gray-OSD will be upi tonight show up as usable within Myth. Myth looks for the fonts in the share directory (/usr/local/share/mythtv/ on my boxes). ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
On Sunday 18 December 2005 12:01, Greg Estabrooks wrote: I downloaded the Deja Vera fonts but can't quite figure out how to get them to They are included in the OSD in the directory with the OSD definition and other images. The OSD is configured to use them so you don't need to setup anything in Myth. Another version of Gray-OSD will be upi tonight show up as usable within Myth. Myth looks for the fonts in the share directory (/usr/local/share/mythtv/ on my boxes). thanks for the info Greg. I'lll wait for tonights release (with much anticipation, I find it a good match for the Grayhem theme). One thing I noticed as well: When in playback of recordings, the OSD shows the Original Air Date of the show, which for news shows like FSW Report shows the original airing date. Would it be possible to have it, for news shows show the actual air date? -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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show, which for news shows like FSW Report shows the original airing date. Would it be possible to have it, for news shows show the actual air date? Already changed. :) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
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thanks for the info Greg. I'lll wait for tonights release (with much anticipation, I find it a good match for the Grayhem theme). Here it is, main changes are the new small program info which is only something that people running SVN would notice and I've adding in some editmode stuff. http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/osd/Gray-OSD-20051218-01.tgz ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Gray-OSD change font?
On Sunday 18 December 2005 18:54, Greg Estabrooks wrote: show, which for news shows like FSW Report shows the original airing date. Would it be possible to have it, for news shows show the actual air date? Already changed. :) awesome. downloaded the new version. couple comments and some ideas I have for how I'd like it to look (so obviously feel free to selectively ignore them...) The Position OSD The position overlay is really big, theres a lot of wasted space above and below the bar. In trying to create a theme for the overlay, I think it would be better to make the position overlay long and skinny. use the long info overlay as a base. Have the start time of the show on the left, the end time on the right, and the progress bar in the center, all on one line. Above this place the clock right justified and the current playback status left justified. Change Position to Play. Possibly a playback status logo would be nice to have before the word. ie. | Play or || Pause FF 2x Short Info In keeping with a common theme for the overlay, again base this on the long info overlay, except get rid of the show date/time info and channel logo allowing the total height to be cut in half. Cut short the description so it only takes up two lines. If you do decide to keep the different overlay shape: The short info is center justified, the long info is left justified. My vote is to see the short info left justified as well. Your are exiting this recording Overlay Possible for it to display the show information as well? Title, channel, etc? Lots of empty space in this overlay, would be nice if it was filled with some more information. Some random other things: 1. The font for the clock is different than the regular font. Or... Is the font for the clock different? It looks to be a different font... 2. Some of the fonts have the bottom 10% or so cut off. The channel number in the small info display and the bottom line of the description in the large display. 3. The clock in the position and short info is too close to the right edge (my DPI is running at 100dpi). 4. The start time for a show in live tv in the large info screen shows the time you started watching and not the actual program start time. I'm still partial to how the TiVo puts the position bar at the bottom of the screen, many years of TiVo use... I don't know how others feel, but my vote would be for it to go there, but I don't really care that much about where it goes... As usual, Great work, like I said before a great match for the Grayhem theme, thanks for all your hard work! -- Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
